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On July 12 2011 13:26 Myrmidon wrote:
@ twos:
What's your power supply brand and model? Failing that, report everything it says about total power and +12V / +5V / +3.3V amps.
NCIX sales reset every Wednesday, so I don't think there's a point to setting up a build now unless you're going to order it very soon. Well, on that budget and if you want to maintain higher frame rate, you're probably going to end up with like a Core i3-2100 and HD 5670 or other lower-power video card anyway, so most likely even a poor 300W unit could handle that kind of configuration.
The power supply brand is sparkle power and the model is FSP300-60ATV 300 watts.
I'm not really sure how to answer your total power question so I'll link you the the info http://www.sparklepower.com/pdf/FSP300-60ATV.pdf I hope that's ok.
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On July 13 2011 12:15 twos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 13:26 Myrmidon wrote:
@ twos:
What's your power supply brand and model? Failing that, report everything it says about total power and +12V / +5V / +3.3V amps.
NCIX sales reset every Wednesday, so I don't think there's a point to setting up a build now unless you're going to order it very soon. Well, on that budget and if you want to maintain higher frame rate, you're probably going to end up with like a Core i3-2100 and HD 5670 or other lower-power video card anyway, so most likely even a poor 300W unit could handle that kind of configuration. The power supply brand is sparkle power and the model is FSP300-60ATV 300 watts. I'm not really sure how to answer your total power question so I'll link you the the info http://www.sparklepower.com/pdf/FSP300-60ATV.pdf I hope that's ok.
That information is good. It's a very old design back from when Pentium 4s were new, which is not really a good sign. Ideally you would replace this. However, as long as it's not failing, it should work for a build like this. FSP is an okay manufacturer.
I guess wait a day for new sales and we'll figure out a build on NCIX.
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I bought a hard drive and an external hard drive enclosure that supports eSATA since my board does as well. Whenever I try to use eSATA, my computer freezes and I have to reboot. It detects the drive with the eSATA cable connected, I just can't get anything to happen.
I did a little research and see that this is a common issue. I've tried starting the computer with the external hard drive plugged in, but it always ends up the same way.
People online keep talking about AHCI? and enabling it for hotswap, but my drive is detected. It just freezes whenever I use eSATA.
I have all the latest drivers using those driver finder utilities. I just can't seem to get eSATA to work. USB works flawlessly.
Any ideas?
There was also a suggestion about reinstalling windows with AHCI enabled. That's not a route I'm willing to take at the moment.
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You should be listing what you need it to do, and probably looking at Sandy Bridge CPU's. You can save about $50 by buying the Zotac GTS 450 instead, and OCing it. It's $75 AMIR off newegg right now. It's almost as fast as a 550, but way cheaper.
Intel is winning the price/performance wars right now big time.
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On July 13 2011 14:43 JingleHell wrote:You should be listing what you need it to do, and probably looking at Sandy Bridge CPU's. You can save about $50 by buying the Zotac GTS 450 instead, and OCing it. It's $75 AMIR off newegg right now. It's almost as fast as a 550, but way cheaper. Intel is winning the price/performance wars right now big time.
I just want to play SC2 and might think of streaming in the future and i will probaly get BF3 in the future and im kinda new to computers so i dont know how to overclock.
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Also if you're building it soon you can go to Fry's and get the i5 2400 for $149 and save some money :p. Assuming you live near one (only on sale til Thurs).
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so im building a comp, heres what i have so far: (im a tech newbie)
i5 2500
Nivida GFX 560 Ti
Windows 7
Case/PSU/fan just something cheap that does the job
Monitor, a 23inch 1080,
Standard HDD, 1TB
Not sure on what RAM, any help would be appreciated.
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On July 13 2011 17:30 L3g3nd_ wrote:
so im building a comp, heres what i have so far: (im a tech newbie)
i5 2500
Nivida GFX 560 Ti
Windows 7
Case/PSU/fan just something cheap that does the job
Monitor, a 23inch 1080,
Standard HDD, 1TB
Not sure on what RAM, any help would be appreciated.
You're on the right track.
For memory, just get the least expensive 2x4GB (usually $60 - $70) or 2x2GB (usually $32) kit you can find. Heatspreaders don't matter while different timings and frequencies have a very negligible impact on performance.
You don't need extra fans.
For the power supply, you don't want to be cheap with it as its what provides your components all the power. One bad power supply can possibly ruin your entire computer. The XFX Core Edition 450w is the recommended: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I placed the order and my parts should arrive sometime next week. I'm just hoping I am to able to assemble the thing 
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On July 13 2011 13:33 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 12:15 twos wrote:On July 12 2011 13:26 Myrmidon wrote:
@ twos:
What's your power supply brand and model? Failing that, report everything it says about total power and +12V / +5V / +3.3V amps.
NCIX sales reset every Wednesday, so I don't think there's a point to setting up a build now unless you're going to order it very soon. Well, on that budget and if you want to maintain higher frame rate, you're probably going to end up with like a Core i3-2100 and HD 5670 or other lower-power video card anyway, so most likely even a poor 300W unit could handle that kind of configuration. The power supply brand is sparkle power and the model is FSP300-60ATV 300 watts. I'm not really sure how to answer your total power question so I'll link you the the info http://www.sparklepower.com/pdf/FSP300-60ATV.pdf I hope that's ok. That information is good. It's a very old design back from when Pentium 4s were new, which is not really a good sign. Ideally you would replace this. However, as long as it's not failing, it should work for a build like this. FSP is an okay manufacturer. I guess wait a day for new sales and we'll figure out a build on NCIX.
Okay! Thanks a lot Myrmidon! :D
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Hey there folks, a friend pointed me here so I could see if there's any issues with the build I'm planning, or otherwise any suggestions to go with it.
Overall, It's just for gaming and whatever else I feel like dabbling at the time, no serious video editing or the likes.
Budget-wise, I'm planning on staying below 1200 if its without a new case and power supply.
I play most of my games at 1920x1200 and scale it down if needed if my current rig can't handle it.
Also, my current rig was built three years ago and thats about the span that I go between builds unless something nasty happens like being an idiot and buying a cheap power supply only to have it take out half my rig last year.
Motherboard
Processor
RAM
Vid Card
HDD
I currently have an Antec TruePower Quattro 850 power supply, and I'm curious if I should scale back for this new build since I'm not running a 3-way SLI anymore.
Only other question would be for a new case. I've been pretty stubborn when it comes to cases and I've stuck with the trusted(to me) Antec 900 and have been happy with it, but for a smaller build, should I downsize my case to have less dead space and better airflow? And if so, does anyone have suggestions for that as well.
Thanks!
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On July 14 2011 00:42 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 17:30 L3g3nd_ wrote:
so im building a comp, heres what i have so far: (im a tech newbie)
i5 2500
Nivida GFX 560 Ti
Windows 7
Case/PSU/fan just something cheap that does the job
Monitor, a 23inch 1080,
Standard HDD, 1TB
Not sure on what RAM, any help would be appreciated. You're on the right track. For memory, just get the least expensive 2x4GB (usually $60 - $70) or 2x2GB (usually $32) kit you can find. Heatspreaders don't matter while different timings and frequencies have a very negligible impact on performance. You don't need extra fans. For the power supply, you don't want to be cheap with it as its what provides your components all the power. One bad power supply can possibly ruin your entire computer. The XFX Core Edition 450w is the recommended: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
Thanks!
Okay i got a final build from the forums of a NZ build forum, thoughts?
Intel Core i5 2500 Sandy Bridge 3.30GHz 6MB 95W LGA1155
Gigabtye GA-P67X-UD3-B3
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3-1600
LG GH-22LS50 22X LightScribe Black SATA DVD Writer
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 32MB 7200rpm SATAII
EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX560 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E
Antec Neo Eco 620W PSU (No Power Cable)
Antec Three Hundred Gamer Case
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit OEM
Samsung BX2331 23" 2ms 1000:1 2x HDMI LED Monitor
Standard Hardware installation and configuration + OS install
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The core i5 2500 has limited overclocking so there's really little point in purchasing a P67 motherboard with it when a H61 or H67 motherboard costs much less.
1600MHz provides little to no benefits over 1333MHz as I previously mentioned.
620w is unnecessary.
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On July 14 2011 08:25 Magnakor wrote:Hey there folks, a friend pointed me here so I could see if there's any issues with the build I'm planning, or otherwise any suggestions to go with it. Overall, It's just for gaming and whatever else I feel like dabbling at the time, no serious video editing or the likes. Budget-wise, I'm planning on staying below 1200 if its without a new case and power supply. MotherboardProcessorRAMVid CardHDDI currently have an Antec TruePower Quattro 850 power supply, and I'm curious if I should scale back for this new build since I'm not running a 3-way SLI anymore. Only other question would be for a new case. I've been pretty stubborn when it comes to cases and I've stuck with the trusted(to me) Antec 900 and have been happy with it, but for a smaller build, should I downsize my case to have less dead space and better airflow? And if so, does anyone have suggestions for that as well. Thanks!
Some advice on whether or not this build should incorporate an SSD would be appreciated as well.
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@Magnakor:
If you like the Antec 900, I don't think there's a compelling reason to switch. But certainly there are cases with better airflow, less noise, and better features, and/or a combination of those things.
TruePower Quattro 850W is a very good still, if a little less efficient and noisier than most high-end units today.
You'll never use close to 8GB of RAM with that kind of computer usage, much less 16GB. You can always add RAM later if somehow 8GB is not enough. Here's 8GB for $57:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148347
Personally I'd get a somewhat cheaper motherboard unless you need the extra features of the GD65 (e.g. the SLI support you said you weren't going to use). The decent $110 motherboards have no trouble overclocking a i5-2500k way beyond safe limits. Here's an AsRock P67 Pro3 for that much:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
Unless you like cranking up AA/AF on the latest games at resolutions higher than 1920x1200, I think even a single GTX 580 is overkill. We're not that far off from 28nm GPUs, and no games today really need that kind of power. It's more cost-efficient to just upgrade $200-250 GPUs on a more regular basis IMHO.
On that kind of budget, I'd highly recommend getting an SSD. Intel 320, Intel 510, Crucial M4, Crucial C300, and various SandForce drives and a few others are current good options. How large a capacity would you be thinking about?
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@Myrmidon:
You'd be surprised what minecraft does to your RAM.
My original upgrade build was to use SLI again, but I could get that single card for the same price that the 2 for SLI was going to cost me. Old card idea. Though I certainly see what you mean price-wise for essentially the same thing, but would it be safe to stay with what I have for IF i go to SLI down the road, or should I go with what will work now and just replace the card till the mobo is obsolete?
If I was to get an SSD, it would be enough for OS and then probably my steam library and a couple other games that I play frequently. The rest of my storage, I could put on the 1tb drive in place of one of the 300gb's I've currently got in the case.
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