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Thanks for the very quick reply! I forgot to post a budget, but the goal is to stay below 500e. It's apparently possible to get a very decent system for that price (especially when I have a HDD and possibly a PSU already) so that's the target.
I have a few questions though regarding your suggestions.
- About the PSU, I figured I needed more power if I were to upgrade all these parts so that's why I picked the 700W one. At the moment I have a 420W PSU which is working fine. I do not know the brand but I bought it around 2 years ago I believe. If you are positive that 420W will suffice I suppose I could save ~40e on a new one by using my current one and spend that money on the extra RAM (8 instead of 4 should have an effect with these specs I assume).
- Is there a specific reason for picking the Club 3D GPU instead of any other brand (like Sapphire)?
- I think it's worth it to get the i5 2400 instead of the i3, it's an increase in performance I am willing to pay for. Does this change anything to the power or Motherboard I need?
If these are too many questions or if I shouldn't actually be posting these in this thread I am sorry 
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Is there a specific reason for picking the Club 3D GPU instead of any other brand (like Sapphire)?
Only real differences would be the equipped heatsink, post-sale support, and warranty.
I think it's worth it to get the i5 2400 instead of the i3, it's an increase in performance I am willing to pay for. Does this change anything to the power or Motherboard I need?
No there isn't. Both the core i5 2400 and core i3 2100 use around 50w under maximum load. The H61, H67, and P67 motherboards are all LGA1155 and accept all LGA1155 processors which both the core i3 2100 and core i5 2400 is.
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On July 12 2011 17:25 Womwomwom wrote:
It might just be more economical to just get a whole new computer. LGA775 is extremely outdated and the motherboards are getting rare/expensive.
I'm not sure about Dell at that stage but the power supply might actually be proprietary. There was a period where Dell's power supplies, while having 2x12 pins commonly found on ATX power supplies, were wired differently and thus would not work with non-Dell motherboards.
So you might just be getting more than a new case and motherboard.
Yeah, LGA775 is outdated but I am not trying to spend a lot of money. Working in IT has its benefits... I have snagged a 500w PSU from another computer that was being pitched. The CPU isn't that great at a E6600, but I currently play on a 2.66G MacBook Pro. It should be comparable. I have plenty of RAM and not concerned for space as my laptop is my primary machine. I will only use this for SC2, maybe some emulators for good memories.
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On July 13 2011 01:44 pog0 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 17:25 Womwomwom wrote:
It might just be more economical to just get a whole new computer. LGA775 is extremely outdated and the motherboards are getting rare/expensive.
I'm not sure about Dell at that stage but the power supply might actually be proprietary. There was a period where Dell's power supplies, while having 2x12 pins commonly found on ATX power supplies, were wired differently and thus would not work with non-Dell motherboards.
So you might just be getting more than a new case and motherboard. Yeah, LGA775 is outdated but I am not trying to spend a lot of money. Working in IT has its benefits... I have snagged a 500w PSU from another computer that was being pitched. The CPU isn't that great at a E6600, but I currently play on a 2.66G MacBook Pro. It should be comparable. I have plenty of RAM and not concerned for space as my laptop is my primary machine. I will only use this for SC2, maybe some emulators for good memories.
You know for a new mobo/cpu/RAMyou can play SC2 at pretty high settings for under $250?
Pentium G840+H61 combo off newegg, 4GB DDR3. Sorry, got you mixed up. Not needing a GPU makes it more like $175ish.
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@loazis:
It's best if you find out the power supply brand and model and post that, but if you stick to something like a Core i5-2400 and HD 6850, even a relatively poor "420W" power supply should run that, since at full load we're looking at a power draw around half that max. If it's at least some relatively modern design with advertised +12V capacity of at least 25A it should be okay.
The other specs are mostly irrelevant when looking at if the extra RAM will help. If you won't use more than 4GB, then having extra isn't doing anything for you. However, 8GB of RAM is not that expensive so it's not a bad idea if you know what you're getting. Lower-end motherboards tend to have only two slots for RAM making upgrading a 2 x 2GB kit inconvenient, so getting 8GB now can make sense.
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@skyR: Thanks
@Myrmidon: I just opened the case and checked the supply. It's an X-Gear 450W PSU, +12V , 22A. I guess that doesn't cut it so should I look for a new one? Madoga suggested this 430W http://azerty.nl/0-1073-410215/corsair-builder-series-cx430-v2-.html or should I just go for a 500W to erase all doubts?
About the RAM, the ASRock H61M-VS I was looking at only has two slots, so that would mean I would need two 4GBs to reach 8 (instead of the 2 x 2GBs).
I hope this is the last I'll ask of you guys :D
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Yes, you would need 2x4GB to reach 8GB. You can get that now for $60 or just get a single 4GB stick to start off with and add one later.
The CX430 V2 will be enough for such a configuration, it provides 28a on the 12v rails. Only problem with it is its lack of connectors so if you ever want to upgrade to a graphics card that requires two PCIe connectors than you might run out of connectors.
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Well, using 8GB of RAM takes some doing, but using more than 4 isn't too difficult. Can't hurt to just be prepared since you're getting a 2 slot mobo. RAM is pretty cheap anyways.
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That PSU(the corsair) is currently the best bang for your buck and it'll run a 6850, you dont need 500W.
As ram just use the cheapest 2x4 gb 1333mhz. cheapest one atm is this. There are several more though, at roughtly the same price.
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Hehe, thx jingle.
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Hi, I am currently installing my i5-2400 onto my Asrock H61M-VS motherboard. I got the notches to line up with the posts, and the arrow in the correct corner. However, when I try and close the retention bracket, there is a quiet "grinding" sound (best way to describe it). I feel a bit of resistance, but I chicken out halfway through putting the retention bracket down. I'm a first time builder, so I'm not sure if this grinding noise is normal?
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On July 13 2011 05:05 WayHeroic wrote:
Hi, I am currently installing my i5-2400 onto my Asrock H61M-VS motherboard. I got the notches to line up with the posts, and the arrow in the correct corner. However, when I try and close the retention bracket, there is a quiet "grinding" sound (best way to describe it). I feel a bit of resistance, but I chicken out halfway through putting the retention bracket down. I'm a first time builder, so I'm not sure if this grinding noise is normal?
This is normal. The crunchy squishing sensation is fine. It scares the pants off everyone the first time. As long as it's lined up properly, you're good.
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On July 13 2011 05:05 WayHeroic wrote:
Hi, I am currently installing my i5-2400 onto my Asrock H61M-VS motherboard. I got the notches to line up with the posts, and the arrow in the correct corner. However, when I try and close the retention bracket, there is a quiet "grinding" sound (best way to describe it). I feel a bit of resistance, but I chicken out halfway through putting the retention bracket down. I'm a first time builder, so I'm not sure if this grinding noise is normal?
This is normal.
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Thanks for the quick response. But when I open the retention bracket up again, I see 2 marks on both edges of the Cpu, which I assume are from the retention bracket "grinding" on the processor. Is this also normal?
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If it's any consolation, even though I know it's normal it still gives my brain goosebumps when I feel that sensation and hear that sound associated with my CPU. And I've built a decent number of PCs.
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Before I start, is it ever safe to buy an open-box product online (NCIX). Of course there are risks, but if there is a problem, will the supplier be helpful or should I just steer clear of the headache?
Found out I'm getting extra $$$ from overtime this month so I'll be starting my new computer sooner than I thought. General budget is around $1000 for the tower itself and I'd like it to last 2+ years. Mainly for playing SC2 and potentially streaming. Most likely 1920x1080.
As per almost everyone's recommendation I started with an Intel i5 2500. I dont plan to overclock so the 2500k is unnecessary right?
i5 2500 $220
Gigabyte Mobo (P67A-D3-B3)
Gigabyte Mobo (P67X-UD3-B3 $137
What is the difference between the P67A and P67X? The best I can figure out is the P67X offers GSATA support, and I dont know what that is.
XFX Radeon 6850 $165
- What benefit does the black edition offer and is it worth it considering the $20 rebate? Otherwise I'll stick to a basic 6850.
Kingston V100 64GB SSD $90
- I don't know anything about SSD brands or their quality so I just picked one. Anyone know if this one is reliable?
G.Skill Ripper 8GB DDR3-1333 $60
Gigabyte's website says this ram is compatible and I'm not even sure I need 8GB. Streaming SC2 would benefit from it, no?
Seagate 1TB HDD $55
Asus Dvd Writer $28
Around $750 so far AMIR's but I still need a case and PSU. Another $100-150 I'm guessing. Can I get some recommendations? I hope I didn't forget anything. Thanks!
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the PSU will be more about 50-60, also if you have that much of a budget i recommand a better GPU, it will be worth it's money if you want to play new games on high graphics
also you can get an ssd which is always good to have
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On July 13 2011 06:31 Rachnar wrote:
the PSU will be more about 50-60, also if you have that much of a budget i recommand a better GPU, it will be worth it's money if you want to play new games on high graphics
also you can get an ssd which is always good to have
He already listed an SSD, although I'd suggest a Crucial M4 or an Intel 320, personally.
GPU is dependent on resolution and intended games, that info would be good to know. i5 2400 is almost as fast as the i5 2500 non-k, might be worth stepping down if you want to save some money.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=288
And you don't need ANY P67 board if you aren't OCing. H61 or H67, depending on features needed.
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for a 6850 I mostly recommand a CX430 V2 as PSU. if you want to spend more you can get an Earth Watts 430. If you get a better GPU you should probably get a different one.
Cant really help you with the case, since I dont know what you like.
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rest basicly what jingle allready wrote.
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Hey guys, I'm trying to build a budget gaming computer and I'm looking for some advice. Basically I want to spend as little money as possible to get acceptable performance. I will be using the PC quite often and I will be gaming on it, mainly SC2 and older games (and I suppose D3 when it comes out).
I would put my budget at $1000 MAX (and that would have to include monitor and maybe a mech keyboard), but I would prefer to spend less.
I found a build on bit-tech.net that seems to be at my price level. Here's the link.
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Prices are approximate (taken from site)
Sorry about the bad formatting.
CPU: Intel i3-2100 3.1GHz $125
Motherboard: Asus P8H67-M LE $105
Memory: 4GB 1,333MHz DDR3 $35
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 1GB $155
PSU: Corsair SU-430CX 430W $45
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro $30
Case: Antec One Hundred $55
Optical drive: SATA DVD-RW $20
Storage: 1TB SATA 3Gbps
I was wondering what you guys think of that build and what kind of monitor (size/resolution) would you recommend for that PC?
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