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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 11 2011 14:56 GMT
#8181
he means that the hd6870 is a very decent card, but on a scale is no where near as powerful as your other parts
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Genzo
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark207 Posts
July 11 2011 15:01 GMT
#8182
ahh so i will have like a bottle neck, because of one powerfull part

how would you build a pc, using that configurator, they assemble it, thats why i use it

http://www.proshop.dk/CustomPCBuilder/ConfigurationManager.aspx?templateName=Gaming#
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 11 2011 15:14 GMT
#8183
wait for skyr, jinglehell or someone else, as there is not the details on the products i can really say
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 15:21:22
July 11 2011 15:16 GMT
#8184
Are you kidding? I'm shit at optimizing builds. Takes me forever. I have to keep slapping the little voice in my head that's screaming for better performance at any cost.

Now if someone wanted a well-balanced completely over the top insane build, I'm totally their man.

I can recognize weak links in a build, and put together good builds, but I don't do so well at maximum cost effectiveness.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 11 2011 15:29 GMT
#8185
It looks like the "Advanced" category has a few better options. Unless you're gaming above 1920x1200, I think the HD 6870 is fine. It's just the other parts that seem overkill. I just cut it down below, but kept 8GB of RAM in case you're a serial alt-tabber and keep lots of stuff open while gaming, since that motherboard only has two RAM slots.

[image loading]
kr. 6.569,00 ($1239...wow that's a lot, even considering European prices and VAT)

SSDs are very nice but won't improve in-game performance, just loading. And if you're playing a multiplayer game, you still need to wait for other people to load.

If you really want to go all out on hardware you probably won't be taking advantage of, the "Advanced" category has an HD 6970 option.
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
July 11 2011 15:49 GMT
#8186
On July 12 2011 00:16 JingleHell wrote:
Are you kidding? I'm shit at optimizing builds. Takes me forever. I have to keep slapping the little voice in my head that's screaming for better performance at any cost.

Now if someone wanted a well-balanced completely over the top insane build, I'm totally their man.

I can recognize weak links in a build, and put together good builds, but I don't do so well at maximum cost effectiveness.


Well, feel free to try your hand at my computer build. I'd say it fits the bill for a crazy over the top build, with few cost restraints.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 11 2011 16:19 GMT
#8187
On July 12 2011 00:49 HopLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 00:16 JingleHell wrote:
Are you kidding? I'm shit at optimizing builds. Takes me forever. I have to keep slapping the little voice in my head that's screaming for better performance at any cost.

Now if someone wanted a well-balanced completely over the top insane build, I'm totally their man.

I can recognize weak links in a build, and put together good builds, but I don't do so well at maximum cost effectiveness.


Well, feel free to try your hand at my computer build. I'd say it fits the bill for a crazy over the top build, with few cost restraints.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
i7 2600k

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157252
Mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226184
Low Voltage RAM, 1 or 2 kits for 8 or 16GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167051
SSD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106358
Slim SlotLoad DVD burner. (Might fit? Never messed with one)


That comes out to ~$790 or ~$860 depending on RAM so far. Storage, just grab what you need pretty much. For the CPU cooler, loathe as I am to suggest it, a Corsair water cooler might be a good idea, since you're not going to have much clearance for RAM with an air cooler.

I grabbed the low voltage memory since you said you wanted to OC RAM, and the motherboard choice was pretty much based on memory slots. PSU I'm not going to pretend to know more than Myrm.

I may have missed some detail, I had to hop up a couple times to chase my kid down.
Genzo
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark207 Posts
July 11 2011 16:29 GMT
#8188
@myrmidon

we got a think called moms (25% extra) probably why its so much more expensive

MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 23:07:25
July 11 2011 23:06 GMT
#8189
On July 12 2011 01:29 Genzo wrote:
@myrmidon

we got a think called moms (25% extra) probably why its so much more expensive


I don't think there are many countries who doesn't add VAT (value added tax, or "moms" in this case) to everything that is sold. But the percentage will of course vary from country to country.
In capitalist America, bank robs YOU!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
July 11 2011 23:30 GMT
#8190
Hardware is especially expensive in Norway/Sweden/Finland for some stupid reason. Pretty much everything costs 150% of what it should.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:13:39
July 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#8191
All scandinavia countries have high taxes, thus making stuff more expensive. You might want to consider importing from germany. There are several german sites that expert all over europe for a reasonable price.
People here like to use hardwareversand(shipping costs €17,50 to denmark), which is allso has an option for english.
The prices will probably be a lot better compared to denmark.
However, you'll have less payment options and their service is rather poor, specially towards people that dont speak/write german.

[edit]
Was bored, so to compare prices:

i5 2400 - €152,24
ASRock H61M-VS - €43,85 There allso is a usb 3 version of this motherboard for 17 euro more.
8GB-Kit DDR3 Exceleram - €46,91
XFX RADEON HD 6870 - €141,72
Samsung EcoGreen F3 1TB - €41,88
Samsung SH-222AB - €17,25
Cooler Master Elite RC-334 - €34,38
be quiet! Pure Power 530W - €56,81
Which makes a total of 535,64 + 17,50 for shipping.
Which is 4124.50 DDK in total.

You can probably get some better components, since the site lacks a proper filter(And psu is under Case accessories, really?), the assortment is rather limited and im lazy. Allso added a random cheap case, you might want to change that.
BaRR
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia18 Posts
July 12 2011 01:43 GMT
#8192
Hello TL,
I'm new to this Forum, so I need some help, I love the game starcraft but my computer doesn't. It laggs, crys, is about 30 Frames behind everyone eles. So its not really a gamming computer but I need advice on what I should do. I would like a Computer that would run SC2 on Medium (High- Ultra would be nice) but the current graphic setting are mostly on Low... and "My system cant support anything higher so I need help on what todo.

I could either buy a New computer (Very Expensive)

Or try to upgrade The old one (It can just do basic commands (Word, Internet)

SO here are the setting on current computer;

Microsoft Windows XP

Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU
E1400 @ 2.00GHz
2.02GHz. 1.99GB of Ram


(Info from System Properties)

(I Am a 'Noobie' when it comes to computer building or parts of computer.)

So what should I do. If you could just suggest some things that maybe I should be focusing on it would be very nice.

I know its not a gamming computer I bought it before I even new SC2 came out so please help me


Alex




Mules lolol
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 12 2011 01:45 GMT
#8193
You need to specify your budget and the resolution you play at before recommendations can be made.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 02:12:53
July 12 2011 01:58 GMT
#8194
NCIX keeps trolling me by deleting my pricematches. Sometimes it does it whenever I update the cart, and sometimes it automatically adds the free game promotion. Does that mean the pricematch would be voided in reality? I'm looking to go to the store to buy, so I'm going to see if the in-store price matching thing on-line works for tomorrow, but this is weird.

Eik entered wrong link. Could someone check using the ASPM thing on NCIX with these two? Thanks.

Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56384&vpn=11180-00-20R&manufacture=SAPPHIRE
Pricematch to $164.69 with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14080BD0240&vpn=11180-00-20R&manufacture=SAPPHIRE
There is no one like you in the universe.
twos
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8 Posts
July 12 2011 04:11 GMT
#8195
What is your budget?
$300-$400

What is your resolution?
1650x1280

What are you using it for?
Mainly Starcraft II, I want to be able to run it either high or medium graphics settings and have a constant frame rate.

What is your upgrade cycle?
About 4 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Probably in a week from now.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Ncix Canada

I have a 300 watt power supply already and a medium sized tower, I would prefer if the build can be built around my already owned items. Thanks in advance.
Dont fail
samiamquinn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia137 Posts
July 12 2011 04:23 GMT
#8196
Hey everybody, what's the difference between Windows 7 OEM and retail? I'm quite confused because OEM seems to be a lot cheaper.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 12 2011 04:24 GMT
#8197
On July 12 2011 13:23 samiamquinn wrote:
Hey everybody, what's the difference between Windows 7 OEM and retail? I'm quite confused because OEM seems to be a lot cheaper.


OEM doesn't come with Microsoft support, which nobody uses anyways. It's the version for computer manufacturers to bundle, and with that comes the expectation that they support it.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 12 2011 04:26 GMT
#8198
@ twos:

What's your power supply brand and model? Failing that, report everything it says about total power and +12V / +5V / +3.3V amps.

NCIX sales reset every Wednesday, so I don't think there's a point to setting up a build now unless you're going to order it very soon. Well, on that budget and if you want to maintain higher frame rate, you're probably going to end up with like a Core i3-2100 and HD 5670 or other lower-power video card anyway, so most likely even a poor 300W unit could handle that kind of configuration.
samiamquinn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia137 Posts
July 12 2011 04:27 GMT
#8199
So there's no real benefit to buying the retail version?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 04:30:04
July 12 2011 04:28 GMT
#8200
On July 12 2011 13:27 samiamquinn wrote:
So there's no real benefit to buying the retail version?


Microsoft benefits quite a bit. Or did you mean for you? Nope. No need unless operating systems break when you look at them.

And even then... who uses MS support? I don't think I've actually ever called them...
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