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samiamquinn
Australia137 Posts
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djcube
United States985 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
If you try to install OEM on another computer you have to contact microsoft, and they will allow you to install on another computer, but only once. (you also have to lie and say your mobo died or some shit). | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Still shouldn't be too big of a deal though, there's generally a new OS by the time you need more than 2 installs. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
Hey all, I'm trying to put a build together for a friend - he says he has a budget of about $500 USD. Will be used mainly for gaming (SC2 and D3). Unfortunately I don't think I can get there - I am assuming he needs the OS and everything listed, it's possible he won't need everything but I want to give him the bare bones to work from. Any help trimming any remaining fat I missed? LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - $18.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094 ASRock H61M-VS LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $44.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS - $31.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396 ZOTAC ZT-40503-10L GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - $104.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500187 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM - $99.99 Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - $44.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32100 - $124.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 Total: $570 Thanks for the help! | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115090&cm_re=i3-_-19-115-090-_-Product i3 2105, Dual core, but with HT for $140, shave off $45. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500187&cm_re=gts_450-_-14-500-187-_-Product Zotac GTS 450, $75 AMIR, save $65 That will help quite a bit. He can run caseless for a few weeks maybe, unless he has pets or small children and nowhere to set it out of reach. A .edu email can get an upgrade version of Win7 for ~$30, I believe, which can be used for a clean install. Combine all those, and he's under $500, keep the case and he's at ~ $530 or so? | ||
Womwomwom
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On July 12 2011 14:09 JingleHell wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115090&cm_re=i3-_-19-115-090-_-Product i3 2105, Dual core, but with HT for $140, shave off $45. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500187&cm_re=gts_450-_-14-500-187-_-Product Zotac GTS 450, $75 AMIR, save $65 That will help quite a bit. He can run caseless for a few weeks maybe, unless he has pets or small children and nowhere to set it out of reach. A .edu email can get an upgrade version of Win7 for ~$30, I believe, which can be used for a clean install. Combine all those, and he's under $500, keep the case and he's at ~ $530 or so? Thanks Jingle, always helpful man. Let me ask you though, for really really budget builds (as this seems to be), would it be a good idea to just go for an Phenom II x4 3.2ghz for $119 and just make this an AMD build? I realize Intel is currently the best CPU brand but the Phenom II x4 is still a good processor and it's $20 cheaper than the i3. Definitely will add in the GPU and I know he has a .edu email address so that's huge. Edit - I have a Phenom II x4 and can run SC2 on high while streaming in good quality without issue so I can't imagine it holding him back at all for SC2 and D3, at least on med-high settings. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 12 2011 14:15 Womwomwom wrote: There isn't any point getting an i3 2105 if you aren't going to use the HD3000. You can save $10 for an identical processor, the i3 2100, in everywhere that actually matters. Oh, right, for some reason I wasn't giving the 2100 credit for having HT. Probably too used to thinking i5 vs i7. Only reason to go to an AMD CPU even at these super low price points is if you actually need more physical cores, like for streaming. Otherwise, the dead socket and worse performance in applications that can't take advantage of the cores makes it a terrible decision. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
No, a second generation Phenom is not a good choice at all. It is only $5 less expensive than the Core i3 2100 and majorly under performs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 A Corsair CX430 V2 would also be much more suitable for your friend's budget at $45 ($35 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396 | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 12 2011 14:23 skyR wrote: Also heatspreaders don't matter unless again your friend is really anal about cool looking heatspreaders that cost an extra $4. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396 Well, the heatsink on OCZ reapers serves at least one useful function. Gives you an excellent place to grab onto when you're pulling RAM sticks. Not quite a reason to spend extra money if you're on a tight budget though. And they're EOL anyways. And a couple of batches were shit due to bad IC's. But yeah, memory heatspreaders=gimmick. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Switch power supply to Corsair CX430 V2 - $45, $35 AMIR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 Optical drive / hard drive combo (500GB Seagate 7200.12) - $53 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.679768 $4 cheaper 2 x 2GB 1333 MHz DDR3 - $32 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231394 edit: ninja'd about RAM and power supply -_- And use a cheaper case or no case. That's about as low as it's going to get though. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Well, actually maybe it can. Not the same manufacturer, but still a GTS 450. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1033/pg10/palit-geforce-gts-450-sonic-platinum-sli-review-starcraft-2.html | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
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pog0
United States30 Posts
I was thinking of goin with a ASUS P5Q or a Gigabyte EP45-UD3P but that might be overkill for a budget gaming rig. Gonna reuse most of the stuff from the Dell. Trying to spend less than $150 for the rest of what I need - board, cooler, case. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
I'm not sure about Dell at that stage but the power supply might actually be proprietary. There was a period where Dell's power supplies, while having 2x12 pins commonly found on ATX power supplies, were wired differently and thus would not work with non-Dell motherboards. So you might just be getting more than a new case and motherboard. | ||
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loazis
Netherlands381 Posts
 I'm planning to buy a new PC/upgrade my current one, mostly for playing SC2 (and D3 in the future), although I have also picked up both Mass Effects and the GTAIV series in the recent Steam sales. So basically, it's gonna serve primarily as a gaming pc. A friend of mine is somewhat into PC-building (at least more than I am), so we tried to find some nice parts for a nice price together. We ended up at Alternate (I'm Dutch) and started out with an upgrade kit and went on from there. This what I ended up with: Motherboard: ASRock 870 Extreme3 CPU: Phenom II X4 955 AMD RAM: 4096MB DDR3 (brand isn't mentioned unfortunately) GPU: SAPPHIRE HD6850 PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W HDD: Samsung Spinpoint 1TB (this is my current HDD and it should still work fine) OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit I plan on using my current case. The motherboard+CPU+RAM are bundled together in an upgrade kit (https://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=mainboard&artno=GDERQ1&cn=1) and I can get a W7 upgrade through my university (which, according to several google sessions, should work on my 32-bit XP version if I wipe my HDD and do a clean install). The whole thing would cost me around €460 which doesn't seem like a lot of money for such a major upgrade and practically a completely new desktop (no need to post my current specs but I'm rocking a 5 year-old PC). I don't feel the need to have the absolute cream of the crop parts and my monitor is an old CRT (so somewhat of a 'bottleneck' I assume ^^). So basically I'd like to know if this is a good deal or if there are some things I could/should change  | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
1. Amd processors aren't very good compared to intel at this moment. So I'd go with an intel. 2. That PSU is way too heavy. for that setup I'd get a 430~450W psu. [edit] You can allso get that package cheaper if you buy components loose: http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelmandje/?legen=1&product[277361]=1&product[251552]=1&product[213070]=1 [edit #2] Try this http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelmandje/?legen=1&product[364199]=1&product[396816]=1&product[410215]=1&product[232977]=1&product[80156]=1&product[338876]=1 That processor is better than the amd. If you want USB3 you could get the ASRock H61M/U3S3 instead, which is 17 euro more. You could allso upgrade to 8 gb ram for another 20 euro. Another option is to get an i5 2400/2500. You could even get the 2500k if you want to overclock (will need a different motherboard) All depends on your budget. | ||
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