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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 04:27:30
May 26 2011 04:27 GMT
#5921
@Impulsa

For streaming, you'll want to remain with the core i5 2400.

Switch the GTX 560 Ti for a GTX 460, this will take $80 off the total: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130570 Keep in mind this -TR card only comes with a three year warranty as opposed to ten years offered by a -KR card.

Switch the HAF 912 for a less expensive case, a Coolermaster Elite 330 will take $20 off the total: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

Switch the U3S3 for a VS, you'll be losing SATA3 and USB3 but this will take $30 off the total: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 Keep in mind that you won't be able to fully utilize third generation SSDs such as a Vertex 3 on this motherboard.

The motherboard only has two DIMM slots so I suggest keeping a 2x4GB kit. These GSkill Ripjaws 1066MHz 2x4GBs are $65 after promo code EMCKEHF32: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231308 This would take $15 off the total.

Switch the XFX 450w for a CX430 V2, this would take $10 off the total: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Making the total come to $600 before mail in rebates (=
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 04:28:59
May 26 2011 04:27 GMT
#5922
On May 26 2011 13:21 Myrmidon wrote:
He's not going to be able to stream playing a CPU-intensive game with a dual core like the Core i3-2100, btw. For most games (not streaming) the i3-2100 is more than capable though. If that's still a priority, or if he wants to save more money, I'd consider this HD 5830 instead. At $110 it's the best value barring rebates:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878

A HD 5830 is still enough to play SC2 on ultra at 1680x1050. Get a $40 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM kit as suggested earlier.


Ah, right, streaming.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure he'll be able to hit a good quality stream on the $600 price point without sacrificing graphics quality.

And of course, skyR proves me wrong.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 26 2011 04:31 GMT
#5923
On May 26 2011 13:26 marvin. wrote:
I almost have all the pieces for my computer built. I think this motherboard is compatible with everything here.. but I just want to verify because I'm not very confident in my knowledge. I was looking to purchase the MSI P67A-G43 (B3) ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583 )
I have..

i5 2500k
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 )
HD 4850 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150482 )
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767 )
Case: Sonata II ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129155 )
Earthwatts 380D
Hyper 212+ heatsink/cooler

And would this be a good choice of motherboards? Thanks!


I'm assuming the pieces without links are the pieces you have? Or... what pieces do you have and don't have?

This Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz kit is $75 after promo code EMCKEHF23: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

If you don't already own the core i5 2500k and motherboard, it would be better to get a Z68 combo such as this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.651991
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 04:34:19
May 26 2011 04:31 GMT
#5924
edit: a bit late
On May 26 2011 13:22 Impulsa wrote:
what about these

http://www.frys.com/product/6540003

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RPPLNK/sr=1-1/qid=1306383422/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1306383422&sr=1-1&seller=

for mobo?


Yeah sure, any LGA 1155 motherboard is compatible. The one skyR linked just has more features like SATA3 and USB3 support. Currently only some of the fastest SSDs take advantage of SATA3, so that may not be so important for him. USB3 is currently only being used by some external hard drives and faster flash drives, but I'd imagine some other devices wanting a high data transfer rate like video cameras, etc. may possibly use it in the future as well. If those features aren't needed, there are definitely cheaper motherboards as you've found.

If going with a i3-2100, this combo would save more money:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.648138

If going with a i5-2400, this combo would save some money:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.638743
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 04:36:57
May 26 2011 04:34 GMT
#5925
cpu+mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.642630

ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211364

psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

dvd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

graphics
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878

$505.94

edit

about $100 to add case and whatever hard drive size you want
starleague forever
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
May 26 2011 05:19 GMT
#5926
Just wanted to say this : (Although, i guess this information is not 'new') Integrated graphic on the I5-2400 (and I guess on all the Sandy Bridge) is good enough to run a 4v4 SC2 game in a smooth way (with lowest graphics). This is for the folks who may be looking for a budget build for SC2. Its possible to play on low, and have a decent/good CPU for a future GPU!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 26 2011 05:32 GMT
#5927
On May 26 2011 14:19 XenOmega wrote:
Just wanted to say this : (Although, i guess this information is not 'new') Integrated graphic on the I5-2400 (and I guess on all the Sandy Bridge) is good enough to run a 4v4 SC2 game in a smooth way (with lowest graphics). This is for the folks who may be looking for a budget build for SC2. Its possible to play on low, and have a decent/good CPU for a future GPU!


What fps and resolution? A lot of reviews showed decent fps with Intel HD Graphics 3000 (the one on non-Celeron Sandy Bridge laptops, i5-2500k, i7-2600k, i3-2105, and i5-2405S). However, the others including the i5-2400 have Intel HD Graphics 2000, which has half the execution units. Based on some guesses and maybe some reviews I didn't look at, the HD Graphics 2000 seemed like it wouldn't be fast enough for enjoyable fps at higher resolutions, so some clarification would be nice.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 26 2011 05:46 GMT
#5928
On May 26 2011 13:31 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 13:26 marvin. wrote:
I almost have all the pieces for my computer built. I think this motherboard is compatible with everything here.. but I just want to verify because I'm not very confident in my knowledge. I was looking to purchase the MSI P67A-G43 (B3) ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583 )
I have..

i5 2500k
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 )
HD 4850 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150482 )
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767 )
Case: Sonata II ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129155 )
Earthwatts 380D
Hyper 212+ heatsink/cooler

And would this be a good choice of motherboards? Thanks!


I'm assuming the pieces without links are the pieces you have? Or... what pieces do you have and don't have?

This Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz kit is $75 after promo code EMCKEHF23: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

If you don't already own the core i5 2500k and motherboard, it would be better to get a Z68 combo such as this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.651991


I got the 8gb of ram for $55 and the HD+PCU for $200 combo - For all intents and purposes, I have everything besides the motherboard. I was just wondering if the motherboard would fit everything else or not.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 05:51:16
May 26 2011 05:51 GMT
#5929
Yes it would but there are better options such as the Gigabyte P67 UD3 or Asrock P67 Pro3, both at $130. Or Gigabyte and Asrock Z68 boards at $120-$130.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
May 26 2011 05:51 GMT
#5930
I'm no expert at this, so I won't be able to confirm anything.

That said, tested today with :

Lowest graphic everywhere
4gb Ram
Windowed full (resolution? : My monitor fully supports 1080, but I'm not sure of the resolution)
No OC, just the stock speed of I5-2400

I played a 4v4 game vs computer. Had 2-3 battles (I haven't tried 800vs800 armies...) and everything was fine enough. Game lasted about 15 minutes. Haven't checked FPS, but I'll try if its needed.

However, when the game was freshly installed, the settings were at medium. At medium, the game felt unplayable for me. I haven't actually tested a game with medium, but everything felt so slow (IE : typing my account info, each letter would take some time before showing on screen)

marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 26 2011 06:09 GMT
#5931
On May 26 2011 14:51 skyR wrote:
Yes it would but there are better options such as the Gigabyte P67 UD3 or Asrock P67 Pro3, both at $130. Or Gigabyte and Asrock Z68 boards at $120-$130.


Not to question your recommendations, I was just wondering why you recommend the Gigabyte and Asrock P67 Pro3 - the Gigabyte seems to have a ton of bad reviews (lots of 1 eggs) and the asrock p67 looks pretty similar from the specs. Thanks for the help.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 26 2011 06:19 GMT
#5932
Both boards have more power phases than the MSI. Gigabyte has dual BIOS. Asrock has on-board buttons and a debug LED.

It's not the smartest idea to base a purchasing decision off of Newegg reviews considering how the Gigabyte UD3 is a much more popular option than the G43.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 26 2011 06:33 GMT
#5933
Thanks for your help!
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 07:15:48
May 26 2011 07:14 GMT
#5934
hey! umm so I finally built the computer thanks to SkyR and many of your help!

It's been working fine for the last week, but all of a sudden now, it won't boot up anymore...

Here's what happened:

--> I booted it up today and "loading operating system..." popped up like usual. However it wouldn't go past this screen for 10-15 mins.

--> I decided to hit the reset button.

= Now it just enters a reboot loop and nothing loads at all =[

What are somethings I should be looking to examine?

If it helps:

CPU: i7 -2600K
Motherboard: P67A-UD3-B3
GPU: Gigabyte 6970 2gb
PSU: Thermaltake TR2 700W
Case: NZXT Phantom (white)
RAM: 2x4gb Corsair Vengeance
HDD: WD 2TB Caviar Green
Window 7 OS
FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
May 26 2011 08:23 GMT
#5935
damn thats shitty me_viet. I was having simialr problems with my setup..

Is windows 7 fully DL'd ?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 15:22:16
May 26 2011 15:14 GMT
#5936
On May 26 2011 15:19 skyR wrote:It's not the smartest idea to base a purchasing decision off of Newegg reviews.


why would you say that? me_viet is now experiencing the very same problems described by those users ._.

@me_viet, you'll have to return the board for another one / or refund
starleague forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 26 2011 17:33 GMT
#5937
The most popular options are obviously going to get the most negative revieiws. All P67 series of boards have the same problems and this is evident even by basing it off Newegg reviews. So you might as well not buy any P67 motherboard from Newegg ever.

First thing to do is clear the CMOS (unplug computer and remove battery for 30 seconds).

Unplug the DVD Drive and HDD.

Test a single memory module at a time in each DIMM slot.
Progamermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States79 Posts
May 26 2011 17:40 GMT
#5938
Dumb question.. but will my computer allow me to connect microphone/headset in the front? or do I need to buy something for that?
I'm the man.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 26 2011 18:00 GMT
#5939
On May 27 2011 02:33 skyR wrote:
The most popular options are obviously going to get the most negative revieiws. All P67 series of boards have the same problems and this is evident even by basing it off Newegg reviews. So you might as well not buy any P67 motherboard from Newegg ever.


thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever read here.
starleague forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 26 2011 19:53 GMT
#5940
On May 27 2011 02:40 Progamermatt wrote:
Dumb question.. but will my computer allow me to connect microphone/headset in the front? or do I need to buy something for that?


You just need to connect the case headers to the motherboard.

On May 27 2011 03:00 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 02:33 skyR wrote:
The most popular options are obviously going to get the most negative revieiws. All P67 series of boards have the same problems and this is evident even by basing it off Newegg reviews. So you might as well not buy any P67 motherboard from Newegg ever.


thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever read here.


I don't see how it's ridiculous. I don't see how you can argue that the Gigabyte and ASUS series of boards are not the most popular options among various forum communities.

Not everyone that buys off Newegg reviews the board and not every review is a verified owner so I don't see why you would base purchasing decisions off of Newegg reviews?

Gigabyte, MSI, Asrock and ASUS P67 series of boards all have had countless problems so what would you recommend?
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