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On May 26 2011 13:21 Myrmidon wrote:He's not going to be able to stream playing a CPU-intensive game with a dual core like the Core i3-2100, btw. For most games (not streaming) the i3-2100 is more than capable though. If that's still a priority, or if he wants to save more money, I'd consider this HD 5830 instead. At $110 it's the best value barring rebates: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878A HD 5830 is still enough to play SC2 on ultra at 1680x1050. Get a $40 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM kit as suggested earlier.
Ah, right, streaming.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure he'll be able to hit a good quality stream on the $600 price point without sacrificing graphics quality.
And of course, skyR proves me wrong.
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edit: a bit late
Yeah sure, any LGA 1155 motherboard is compatible. The one skyR linked just has more features like SATA3 and USB3 support. Currently only some of the fastest SSDs take advantage of SATA3, so that may not be so important for him. USB3 is currently only being used by some external hard drives and faster flash drives, but I'd imagine some other devices wanting a high data transfer rate like video cameras, etc. may possibly use it in the future as well. If those features aren't needed, there are definitely cheaper motherboards as you've found.
If going with a i3-2100, this combo would save more money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.648138
If going with a i5-2400, this combo would save some money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.638743
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Just wanted to say this : (Although, i guess this information is not 'new') Integrated graphic on the I5-2400 (and I guess on all the Sandy Bridge) is good enough to run a 4v4 SC2 game in a smooth way (with lowest graphics). This is for the folks who may be looking for a budget build for SC2. Its possible to play on low, and have a decent/good CPU for a future GPU!
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On May 26 2011 14:19 XenOmega wrote: Just wanted to say this : (Although, i guess this information is not 'new') Integrated graphic on the I5-2400 (and I guess on all the Sandy Bridge) is good enough to run a 4v4 SC2 game in a smooth way (with lowest graphics). This is for the folks who may be looking for a budget build for SC2. Its possible to play on low, and have a decent/good CPU for a future GPU!
What fps and resolution? A lot of reviews showed decent fps with Intel HD Graphics 3000 (the one on non-Celeron Sandy Bridge laptops, i5-2500k, i7-2600k, i3-2105, and i5-2405S). However, the others including the i5-2400 have Intel HD Graphics 2000, which has half the execution units. Based on some guesses and maybe some reviews I didn't look at, the HD Graphics 2000 seemed like it wouldn't be fast enough for enjoyable fps at higher resolutions, so some clarification would be nice.
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I got the 8gb of ram for $55 and the HD+PCU for $200 combo - For all intents and purposes, I have everything besides the motherboard. I was just wondering if the motherboard would fit everything else or not.
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Yes it would but there are better options such as the Gigabyte P67 UD3 or Asrock P67 Pro3, both at $130. Or Gigabyte and Asrock Z68 boards at $120-$130.
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I'm no expert at this, so I won't be able to confirm anything.
That said, tested today with :
Lowest graphic everywhere 4gb Ram Windowed full (resolution? : My monitor fully supports 1080, but I'm not sure of the resolution) No OC, just the stock speed of I5-2400
I played a 4v4 game vs computer. Had 2-3 battles (I haven't tried 800vs800 armies...) and everything was fine enough. Game lasted about 15 minutes. Haven't checked FPS, but I'll try if its needed.
However, when the game was freshly installed, the settings were at medium. At medium, the game felt unplayable for me. I haven't actually tested a game with medium, but everything felt so slow (IE : typing my account info, each letter would take some time before showing on screen)
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On May 26 2011 14:51 skyR wrote: Yes it would but there are better options such as the Gigabyte P67 UD3 or Asrock P67 Pro3, both at $130. Or Gigabyte and Asrock Z68 boards at $120-$130.
Not to question your recommendations, I was just wondering why you recommend the Gigabyte and Asrock P67 Pro3 - the Gigabyte seems to have a ton of bad reviews (lots of 1 eggs) and the asrock p67 looks pretty similar from the specs. Thanks for the help.
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Both boards have more power phases than the MSI. Gigabyte has dual BIOS. Asrock has on-board buttons and a debug LED.
It's not the smartest idea to base a purchasing decision off of Newegg reviews considering how the Gigabyte UD3 is a much more popular option than the G43.
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hey! umm so I finally built the computer thanks to SkyR and many of your help!
It's been working fine for the last week, but all of a sudden now, it won't boot up anymore...
Here's what happened:
--> I booted it up today and "loading operating system..." popped up like usual. However it wouldn't go past this screen for 10-15 mins.
--> I decided to hit the reset button.
= Now it just enters a reboot loop and nothing loads at all =[
What are somethings I should be looking to examine?
If it helps:
CPU: i7 -2600K Motherboard: P67A-UD3-B3 GPU: Gigabyte 6970 2gb PSU: Thermaltake TR2 700W Case: NZXT Phantom (white) RAM: 2x4gb Corsair Vengeance HDD: WD 2TB Caviar Green Window 7 OS
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damn thats shitty me_viet. I was having simialr problems with my setup..
Is windows 7 fully DL'd ?
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On May 26 2011 15:19 skyR wrote:It's not the smartest idea to base a purchasing decision off of Newegg reviews.
why would you say that? me_viet is now experiencing the very same problems described by those users ._.
@me_viet, you'll have to return the board for another one / or refund
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The most popular options are obviously going to get the most negative revieiws. All P67 series of boards have the same problems and this is evident even by basing it off Newegg reviews. So you might as well not buy any P67 motherboard from Newegg ever.
First thing to do is clear the CMOS (unplug computer and remove battery for 30 seconds).
Unplug the DVD Drive and HDD.
Test a single memory module at a time in each DIMM slot.
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Dumb question.. but will my computer allow me to connect microphone/headset in the front? or do I need to buy something for that?
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On May 27 2011 02:33 skyR wrote: The most popular options are obviously going to get the most negative revieiws. All P67 series of boards have the same problems and this is evident even by basing it off Newegg reviews. So you might as well not buy any P67 motherboard from Newegg ever.
thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever read here.
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On May 27 2011 02:40 Progamermatt wrote: Dumb question.. but will my computer allow me to connect microphone/headset in the front? or do I need to buy something for that?
You just need to connect the case headers to the motherboard.
On May 27 2011 03:00 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 02:33 skyR wrote: The most popular options are obviously going to get the most negative revieiws. All P67 series of boards have the same problems and this is evident even by basing it off Newegg reviews. So you might as well not buy any P67 motherboard from Newegg ever. thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever read here.
I don't see how it's ridiculous. I don't see how you can argue that the Gigabyte and ASUS series of boards are not the most popular options among various forum communities.
Not everyone that buys off Newegg reviews the board and not every review is a verified owner so I don't see why you would base purchasing decisions off of Newegg reviews?
Gigabyte, MSI, Asrock and ASUS P67 series of boards all have had countless problems so what would you recommend?
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