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So I thought I had everything sorted out until I read this.. Excerpts from Newegg reviews on my video card XFX HD4850 (which is actually an HD4800 series mobility chip clocked at 4850 speeds...)
"Another poster mentioned the high power requirement. He is correct. Make sure you have at least a 550W PSU. My 500W Antec Basiq has trouble getting this thing started. The card fan blows at full speed, there is no image on screen, and system doesn't boot (must try booting several times before succeeding, though once the PC boots there are no issues)."
"Power. This card needs a good 15a just itself. I have a power supply with dual 28A 12V rails and it the power coils on the card buzz pretty loud on certain games. A friend of mine bought a PSU with a 50A single 12V rail and he gets no more buzzing. So please consider that before you buy."
" -Not- really a con, but I did have to buy a new power supply for this card, which cost me another $40 :O
Haven't run into any problems with the hardware itself yet. "
"None really, It does require that extra little bit of power from the 6-pin, but not really a con sense this card is more powerful then an HD 5670 or HD 5770 and those cards are in the same price range and more."
"It wouldn't install on my wife's computer - because she didn't have a strong enough power supply - So I put it in mine, and it works just fine! No problems so far, great deal!
Please note - when it calls for a certain power supply, that's what you need, or it just won't work! I have a thermaltake tr2 wo388ru 600w"
"Power supply requirements, you need at least 500 watts which is not so bad but if you want to upgrade to this card you'll probably need to change your power supply"
Needless to say, I've never seen this many comments about power requirements on a video card as this one. I was originally planning to get an Earthwatts 380D.... But with all these comments.. What would be a good power supply for me? ( cpu is i5 2500k)
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On May 27 2011 18:30 marvin. wrote:
So I thought I had everything sorted out until I read this.. Excerpts from Newegg reviews on my video card XFX HD4850 (which is actually an HD4800 series mobility chip clocked at 4850 speeds...)
"Another poster mentioned the high power requirement. He is correct. Make sure you have at least a 550W PSU. My 500W Antec Basiq has trouble getting this thing started. The card fan blows at full speed, there is no image on screen, and system doesn't boot (must try booting several times before succeeding, though once the PC boots there are no issues)."
That is a sign of PSU going bad, PSUs condensators are dry, it has not much to do with cards power consumption.
"Power. This card needs a good 15a just itself. I have a power supply with dual 28A 12V rails and it the power coils on the card buzz pretty loud on certain games. A friend of mine bought a PSU with a 50A single 12V rail and he gets no more buzzing. So please consider that before you buy."
HD4850 cards do often buzz, it has nothing to do with PSU, you just have a buzzing card.
"Power supply requirements, you need at least 500 watts which is not so bad but if you want to upgrade to this card you'll probably need to change your power supply"
PC with HD4850 consume about 200W under load.
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Thanks a ton for the wealth of knowledge, Myrmidon-- and I thought my build was solid!
On May 27 2011 10:47 Myrmidon wrote:
Games only on one 1920x1080 screen seems like you're not planning on SLI/Crossfire in the future. So there is plenty of money to be saved. Why not get the SSD now? On a side note, you can probably get cheaper RAM too.
No specific plans for SLI/Crossfire-- but I don't think it would hurt to leave that option available? I don't necessarily want to gimp my system but instead make it possible for upgrades in the future. The SSD problem ties in to the fact that I am leaving the country in September and won't be back until January so I don't necessarily see the need for an SSD at the moment when god knows how far the technology will have progressed by 2012.
So essentially I don't need all the fancy stuff that I marked down? I've read a lot of good reviews about the Noctua, especially in Fractal cases-- and I've also heard its particularly quiet and cool. Do you have a different experience?
On May 27 2011 10:47 Myrmidon wrote:Corsair TX650 is not a good deal now and it's not even quiet (though generally it would be at lower loads). It's being phased out for the TX650 V2, which is much improved. However, both are way overkill. If you want something quiet in the wattage you'll be pulling and actually slightly better or comparable in performance, this would be a little better. 520W is also way overkill, but it helps to be at lower loads where the fan doesn't spin up as much. Antec Neo Eco 520C - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
Yeah-- I wasn't sure about the PSU at all... I haven't heard much at all about that PSU either and just recognize the Corsair brand but maybe that's a bad thing.
Really good point about the video cards. I was originally going to go for a 560 Ti, but figured I could save a few bucks dropping down to the and 460 and upgrading sometime in 2012. I'll just stick with the EVGA 560 TI and see how it lasts me.
So to sum up... is it really necessary for me to change my mobo? I specifically choose that one too for its external eSATA ports that I will eventually be using for a Drobo. The SSD I might get and then let a friend/family member use it while I'm away-- the PSU I have no idea what to change and the graphics card I'll go ahead and get a 560 TI.
Thanks again for all the info--- really really do appreciate it!
edit: that antec PSU looks great actually-- read up about ti and I'll go ahead and trust your advice and go with that one!
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Oh, the Noctua are very quiet, just probably overkill for your purposes. I think skyR runs one of them with a i5-2500k, so maybe he has an opinion on that. However, in a Fractal R3 and with a lower-power CPU, I think the noise of a Xigmatek Gaia should be very tolerably low. If not, you could always get a replacement fan and still end up being under the cost of one of the Noctuas.
SLI/Crossfire is against the idea of keeping things quiet in general. You can always just replace an old GPU with the current generation's bang-for-buck model rather than worrying about drivers/profiles/heat/noise/etc.
It's not necessary to change the motherboard. It just seems in general much more expensive than what most people need. But if you want the eSATA ports, go ahead. I think there may be alternatives though, but I couldn't name offhand what would have eSATA.
The PSU is this:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=317192
Similar to and based off of an earlier revision of this, but with somewhat cheaper components (but same fan) as this:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/954
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=185
edit: the current generation of SSDs has recently been released and models are still being released. Recently most models switched over to using 25nm flash memory. Flash is less complicated to make than more complicated circuits like CPUs or GPUs so the process is usually a little ahead, but currently we still have CPUs on 32nm (or 45nm and 40nm for AMD, until next month), with GPUs on 40nm. So SSD technology won't really be any further along in half a year, and prices should be about the same because they'll still be using 25nm flash.
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double triple and quadruple check its teh X64 version of windows.
also what CPU?
and try moving the DIMM's around in diff. slots (just 2 sticks)
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On May 28 2011 00:37 Myrmidon wrote:
Oh, the Noctua are very quiet, just probably overkill for your purposes. I think skyR runs one of them with a i5-2500k, so maybe he has an opinion on that. However, in a Fractal R3 and with a lower-power CPU, I think the noise of a Xigmatek Gaia should be very tolerably low. If not, you could always get a replacement fan and still end up being under the cost of one of the Noctuas.
Yes, I have an Noctua NH-U12P SE2. It's quieter than the case fans on the Lian Li PC-9F. In a push (no pull) configuration, it keeps a core i5 2500k overclocked to 4.4ghz at 1.23v idle at around 30-40C and SC2 load is around 50C-55C while a full prime95 load is around 60c.
edit: I don't know what my ambient temperatures are so ya these numbers don't mean much >.>
edit2: I also have seven HDDs blocking airflow so ya ><
Various fixes are listed here: http://i4memory.com/f54/asus-x58-6-12gb-memory-overclocking-detecting-less-memory-than-installed-19200/
The rating only being 5.9 should be an indicator that something is wrong with BIOS settings or that it's partially DOA or Windows itself is just stupid.
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It turns out that some time ago when I had problems with the OS I altered some parameters in msconfig->BOOT->Advanced Settings, namely the number of cores and the maximum boot memory. Now I changed it back to default (unspecified) and it works well. I even refreshed the rating for RAM and it turns out it is 7.6 which is quite good.
Thank you skyR for all your prompt and useful replies! You're awesome! This is a system you helped me make and debug. And now it works very well and I'm happy 
Also thank you too, Myrmidon; you're also awesome! ^^
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Just keep in mind that the EVGA's -KR card comes with a ten year warranty upon registration while the Galaxy only comes with two years. Galaxy is very popular in Asia but their post-sale support in North America isn't anything spectacular in comparison to say EVGA, MSI, or ASUS.
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I have a quick question. I plan on building a computer between $900-$1000 sometime next month most likely. My monitor I have right now is a Viewsonic 2260wm and I would like to use this monitor with my computer. It's native resolution is 1920x1080 which is 16: 9. This shouldn't be a problem, should it? I think I remember reading that computing is generally done at 16: 10 while TV/game consoles are 16: 9. Also, what type of graphics card (pricewise) will I need to support gaming at this resolution (I'm fine lowering res sometimes). Thanks for the help. I'll be asking for suggestions on a build when that time comes around.
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Yes, it's fine to use your old monitor. If it has VGA input, you can just use a DVI-VGA adapter that is usually provided with most graphics cards. Computer displays are moving towards 16 : 9 because it's less expensive for manufacturers and it's easier to advertise and sell "Full HD" products =\
If you're looking at playing the latest games on high settings at 1920x1080, you're looking for a GTX 560 Ti preferably which is in the range of $230 - $260 before mail in rebates. A GTX 560 for around $200 would also be suitable.
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a friend of mine wants to get into image editing. shes an artist.
at the moment she really wants to get an imac. the smallest modell for 1100€. i told her its quite expensive cause of the "apple tax".
now can you help me/her find a similliar (or even better) system to the 21.5inch imac for a better price? as said it would be for an artist who is probably using photoshop etc. im especially clueless when it comes to good monitors. probably an IPS screen for such work, right?
imac data for comparison:
21.5-inch: 2.5GHz
2.5GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
1920 x 1080 resolution
4GB (two 2GB) memory
500GB hard drive1
AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 512MB
$1,199.00
thanks in advance!
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Yes, you'll want an IPS screen such as a Dell Ultrasharp. Where would you be buying from? http://www.ebuyer.com or some place else ?
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On May 28 2011 05:30 skyR wrote:Yes, you'll want an IPS screen such as a Dell Ultrasharp. Where would you be buying from? http://www.ebuyer.com or some place else ?
id buy somewhere online in germany. i dont really know what kind of hardware you need for photoshop instensive work. a list with suggestions would suffice...
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Using pricing from ebuyers:
Intel core i5 2400 - £149
H61 or H67 motherboard - £50 - £80, depending if she wants USB3 and other features or not
2x4GB DDR3 - £64
XFX Core Edition Pro 450w - £39 (overkill but didn't really look through the other options available, this type of configuration can easily get away with a 300w power supply)
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - £42
Any mid-tower ATX case to her liking - £30 - £60
DVD Drive - £12
Windows 7 is £83
For the sole purpose of photoshop, she can probably just use the integrated graphics provided by the processor. There's no need to buy a discrete graphics card.
So you're looking at around £500 for the components and Windows 7. Not sure of how expensive the Dell Ultrasharp is in Europe, they're about $300 or more here so that converts to around £200.
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On May 27 2011 19:07 FinBenton wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 18:30 marvin. wrote:
So I thought I had everything sorted out until I read this.. Excerpts from Newegg reviews on my video card XFX HD4850 (which is actually an HD4800 series mobility chip clocked at 4850 speeds...)
"Another poster mentioned the high power requirement. He is correct. Make sure you have at least a 550W PSU. My 500W Antec Basiq has trouble getting this thing started. The card fan blows at full speed, there is no image on screen, and system doesn't boot (must try booting several times before succeeding, though once the PC boots there are no issues)."
That is a sign of PSU going bad, PSUs condensators are dry, it has not much to do with cards power consumption. Show nested quote +
"Power. This card needs a good 15a just itself. I have a power supply with dual 28A 12V rails and it the power coils on the card buzz pretty loud on certain games. A friend of mine bought a PSU with a 50A single 12V rail and he gets no more buzzing. So please consider that before you buy."
HD4850 cards do often buzz, it has nothing to do with PSU, you just have a buzzing card. Show nested quote +
"Power supply requirements, you need at least 500 watts which is not so bad but if you want to upgrade to this card you'll probably need to change your power supply"
PC with HD4850 consume about 200W under load.
So... I should be fine with an EarthWatts 380D?
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On May 28 2011 06:06 skyR wrote:
Using pricing from ebuyers:
Intel core i5 2400 - £149
H61 or H67 motherboard - £50 - £80, depending if she wants USB3 and other features or not
2x4GB DDR3 - £64
XFX Core Edition Pro 450w - £39 (overkill but didn't really look through the other options available, this type of configuration can easily get away with a 300w power supply)
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - £42
Any mid-tower ATX case to her liking - £30 - £60
DVD Drive - £12
Windows 7 is £83
For the sole purpose of photoshop, she can probably just use the integrated graphics provided by the processor. There's no need to buy a discrete graphics card.
So you're looking at around £500 for the components and Windows 7. Not sure of how expensive the Dell Ultrasharp is in Europe, they're about $300 or more here so that converts to around £200.
cool , thank you so much!
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