EPTOn May 28 2011 06:20 marvin. wrote:
So... I should be fine with an EarthWatts 380D?
So... I should be fine with an EarthWatts 380D?
Yes. The 4850 only consumes around 10a under maximum load, not the 15a claimed by one of the buyers on Newegg.
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Yes. The 4850 only consumes around 10a under maximum load, not the 15a claimed by one of the buyers on Newegg. | ||
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dox_
United States24 Posts
On May 28 2011 00:37 Myrmidon wrote: Oh, the Noctua are very quiet, just probably overkill for your purposes. I think skyR runs one of them with a i5-2500k, so maybe he has an opinion on that. However, in a Fractal R3 and with a lower-power CPU, I think the noise of a Xigmatek Gaia should be very tolerably low. If not, you could always get a replacement fan and still end up being under the cost of one of the Noctuas. All true. I just watched an unboxing of the Noctua and the damn thing is pretty massive... but I still think I might go with it, even though it does cost a penny. On May 28 2011 00:37 Myrmidon wrote: SLI/Crossfire is against the idea of keeping things quiet in general. You can always just replace an old GPU with the current generation's bang-for-buck model rather than worrying about drivers/profiles/heat/noise/etc. It's not necessary to change the motherboard. It just seems in general much more expensive than what most people need. But if you want the eSATA ports, go ahead. I think there may be alternatives though, but I couldn't name offhand what would have eSATA. True, no need for any future SLI plans. eSATA is something I definitely will want and haven't seen too many other options. On May 28 2011 00:37 Myrmidon wrote: The PSU is this: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=317192 Similar to and based off of an earlier revision of this, but with somewhat cheaper components (but same fan) as this: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/954 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=185 Thanks for the links-- the PSU seems to be perfect for me! On May 28 2011 00:37 Myrmidon wrote: edit: the current generation of SSDs has recently been released and models are still being released. Recently most models switched over to using 25nm flash memory. Flash is less complicated to make than more complicated circuits like CPUs or GPUs so the process is usually a little ahead, but currently we still have CPUs on 32nm (or 45nm and 40nm for AMD, until next month), with GPUs on 40nm. So SSD technology won't really be any further along in half a year, and prices should be about the same because they'll still be using 25nm flash. Hrmm... might go ahead and grab one and loan it out while I'm not using my system. Now to look into which SSD I should get! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 28 2011 06:35 dox_ wrote: True, no need for any future SLI plans. eSATA is something I definitely will want and haven't seen too many other options. Just fyi, there are quite a few other options with one or two eSATA ports. For example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.652042 Also, you can get an add-on card with eSATA ports too, like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132014 | ||
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
On May 28 2011 04:37 skyR wrote: Yes, it's fine to use your old monitor. If it has VGA input, you can just use a DVI-VGA adapter that is usually provided with most graphics cards. Computer displays are moving towards 16 : 9 because it's less expensive for manufacturers and it's easier to advertise and sell "Full HD" products =\ If you're looking at playing the latest games on high settings at 1920x1080, you're looking for a GTX 560 Ti preferably which is in the range of $230 - $260 before mail in rebates. A GTX 560 for around $200 would also be suitable. Thank you! It does have a DVI input already so no adapter needed. I will want a good graphics card, for sure and $200 probably is within my price range for my build. Who knows what I'll be able to get in a month for that price :p I can't wait to do this! | ||
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dox_
United States24 Posts
On May 28 2011 07:03 Myrmidon wrote: Just fyi, there are quite a few other options with one or two eSATA ports. For example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.652042 Also, you can get an add-on card with eSATA ports too, like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132014 True. Newegg sells about 8 with the two eSATA 6GB/s ports... the one I had only had one! This board here seems pretty nice for what I've been looking for... and $30 cheaper! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128478 GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard8478 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Also, I'm looking for some stuff (fans, gpu fan, memory fan etc) with blue led. What are my options with the Azza Solano 1000 case?  ty! Robert | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Dell monitors are generally IPS and ASUS is generally TN so it depends on what you're looking for? If it's colour accuracy, viewing angle, or anything to do with the quality of the picture, Dell would be the obvious choice. Their Ultrasharps do start at $200+ (and this is when they're on sale) though compared to the TN which can be found for well under $200. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
That said, how about this : 1 dell in the center (for the best colours), and 1 Asus on each side. So I can complete the eyefinity, have the best quality for the center (the one that will usually matter most). ^^ I checked my Azza case, it would appear that there aren't any place where I can place a fan... except perhaps in the bottom of the case, but all my cables are stacked there... | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116421 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002578 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236122 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236121 However, some Dell Ultrasharps like the U2311H have been measured to have acceptable (read: worse than most TN panels but okay) response time and input lag for gaming. They can also be rotated 90 degrees. Many of the other non-TN panels are a little slow and probably unsuitable for gaming. I would imagine that the most practical setup for Eyefinity is 3 (identical) monitors tilted vertically. So you get something like 3 x 1080 x 1920. Aspect ratio would be 1.6875, if you want to think about it like that. Maybe a whole bunch of horizontal viewing space is more important for some people though. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
Everything in my computer is new except my GPU that I kept from my previous desktop, which is a ATi Radeon 5770 HD, particularly this model: http://xfxforce.com/en-gb/products/graphiccards/hd 5000series/5770.aspx. In that link it says GPU Clock MHz: 850 MHz Memory Clock (MHz): 4800 MHz but in my OC settings it looks like: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U2oJO.png) The GPU OC from 850 MHz to 950MHz looks fine, but I'm confused about my memory clock at 1435 MHz. How do I have it OCd to 1435 MHz when its factory clock is more than 3x that? At first I thought that might be in addition to the 4800 MHz, but that wouldn't be a very broad OC range and it wouldn't match up for the GPU clock. I used the auto-tune feature for OCing. The current values are a little confusing too. Does my GPU down clock itself like my i7 when not needed to save power or something? Those will go up to my OCd values when gaming? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:37 Myrmidon wrote: Well, there are a lot of Dell monitors that are not IPS. And there are different kinds of IPS anyway, and other technologies like MVA. Viewsonic, NEC, Asus, and others in the US have reasonably-priced non-TN panels as well. For example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116421 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002578 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236122 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236121 However, some Dell Ultrasharps like the U2311H have been measured to have acceptable (read: worse than most TN panels but okay) response time and input lag for gaming. They can also be rotated 90 degrees. Many of the other non-TN panels are a little slow and probably unsuitable for gaming. I would imagine that the most practical setup for Eyefinity is 3 (identical) monitors tilted vertically. So you get something like 3 x 1080 x 1920. Aspect ratio would be 1.6875, if you want to think about it like that. Maybe a whole bunch of horizontal viewing space is more important for some people though. Canada here, so will be using NCIX ^^ Unfortunately, cannot tilt the Asus I own  . The Dell u2311 keeps getting recommanded by the folks on NCIX, so that's why I'm wondering if having 1 dell u2311 at the center, and 2 asus would be a good idea (Dell for said better image, and 2 asus to complete the crossfire)...Maybe there is some monitor stand that I could use to turn the asus vertically! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 28 2011 14:07 XenOmega wrote: Canada here, so will be using NCIX ^^ Unfortunately, cannot tilt the Asus I own . The Dell u2311 keeps getting recommanded by the folks on NCIX, so that's why I'm wondering if having 1 dell u2311 at the center, and 2 asus would be a good idea (Dell for said better image, and 2 asus to complete the crossfire)...Maybe there is some monitor stand that I could use to turn the asus vertically! You wouldn't want to, probably. Most TN panels are symmetrical enough left and right, but the top generally looks different from the bottom. In rightside up orientation, it's probably not something you notice much, but when you tilt it 90 degrees and the top is on the left (or was it right?) and the different-looking bottom is on the right, then that may be distracting. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On May 28 2011 14:01 skyR wrote: DDR5 is quad pumped so the values are correct (1435 x 4 = 5740). Graphics card do indeed downclock just like the processors. Oh cool, that explains it. Thanks | ||
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Impulsa
United States122 Posts
What's the difference between the MSI P67A-G43 and the rest of them? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Fisiks
Australia11 Posts
Budget: $1000AUD (Australian Dollars) approximately, preferably lower. What is your resolution? 1920 x 1080 What are you using it for? SC2 (i want to be able to play on high / ultra graphics settings with little to no lag), Skype, music and web browsing. What is your upgrade cycle? 1.5+ years When do you plan on building it? within 1 month Do you plan on overclocking? No, i am clueless when it comes to building computers Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I don't know what that is, so no Where are you buying your parts from? I am not sure yet, once i get a definitive parts list i will start looking online and locally for the best price. I also received a nVidia Geforce 8800GTX graphics card as a gift, from what i understand it is an older card but still quite good. If that could be used in the build, great! However i understand it would limit what motherboards and cpus i could use, so if not that is fine. Thanks in advance to whoever can help me with this build | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
 It should be enough to play SC2 on high settings on 1920x1080, so you may want to keep it a bit longer. You have enough room in the budget to upgrade to something better, but at this point it may not be worth the money. Here's an idea of what to look for. Core i5-2400 (or i5-2500 or i5-2300) - $187 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16402 AsRock H61M-VS (any LGA 1155 motherboard is compatible) - $59 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16898 Kingston (other brands are okay) 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM - $45 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13720 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB - $62 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15933 Lite-On (any) CD / DVD-RW - $29 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11487 Antec Neo Eco 520C - $69 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16290 Cooler Master Elite 371 (or most any case you like) - $45 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17196 With the budget you could also get an SSD or upgrade anything you see above. If you somehow use a lot of RAM you might consider 8GB, but it won't help you run games any better unless 4GB really isn't enough for what you do (unlikely). If you think you might want USB3 support or other features, you might get a higher-end motherboard. You can't really get a significantly superior CPU though, as the Core i7 series is almost always marginally or the same as the Core i5 at gaming. A decent value GPU if you want to upgrade significantly beyond the 8800 GTX would be this HD 6950 1GB for $229: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16894 Keep in mind that the lower-end HD 6850 model or GTX 460 is enough to play SC2 on ultra comfortably at 1920x1080. They're not too much cheaper though. | ||
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
Their "Keep it quiet" strategy is quite discouraging tbh | ||
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