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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
CASE: NZXT Phantom Full Tower ![[image loading]](http://www.avadirect.com/images/items/CDN-NZX-PHAN001WT.jpg) 118$ Shipped AR PSU: ![[image loading]](http://limages.vr-zone.net/inarticle/5997.png) OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular High Performance Power Supply 39.99$ AR ehh.. RAM: ![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/413biYwkTlL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory 79.99$ Monitor: ![[image loading]](http://images10.newegg.com/ProductImageCompressAll200/24-176-198-04.jpg) HP 2311x Black 23" 5ms Full HD LED BackLight LCD Monitor 159.99$ shipped i fucking hate hp, but the reviews are pretty good..sigh GPU: ![[image loading]](http://images.logicbuy.com/datastore/userdeals/634298113696303914msi-r6950-2pm2d2gd5-video-card.jpg) MSI R6950-2PM2D2GD5 Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card 250$ AR. this is reference card so it is unlockable to 6970 CPU 2500k ![[image loading]](http://www.microcenter.com/images/shared/products/0354589_200121.jpg) + Gigabyte P67A mobo ![[image loading]](http://www.microcenter.com/images/shared/products/views/358098/288449_01_front_thumbnail.jpg) got the cpu + mobo bundle for 240$ at microcenter and i already have a samsung spinpoint F1 1TB 7200rpm hdd i bought for 49.99$ a while ago... so around 700$ for the whole rig (without monitor), should be pretty slick ^^ | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
I helped my dad build a new computer and we'd like to hook it up to his new 55" 1080 TV. He doesn't play games or anything, so I just got him a mobo with an integrated graphics, namely ATi Radeon HD 4250. Will this be enough to playback downloaded movies and youtube fine or will we need a dedicated GPU? If so, how powerful would it need to be for smooth playback? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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fiskrens
Sweden196 Posts
Intel Core™ i5 Quad Processor i5-2500K and EVGA GeForce GTX 570 HD 1280MB PhysX I'm interested in the Ripjaw X 8GB (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL), but what mobo to go with it? | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
My main thing is I want to run all games currently out at max settings, SC2, WoW, SW:TOR(out later), and minecraft(!) I have never had a 'good' computer and my laptop barely runs SC2 and hardly runs WoW. I know I want to get a 'top of the line' rig so I can enjoy everything I like to do. I'll also use photoshop a lot. I want it to be good for years to come. Or have something that's easily upgradeable as my needs change and things get better/faster. Antec 750 power supply G.Skill Ripjaw 8GB Ram (2x4gb) 1600 Blu Ray Drive ThermalTake V9 Case WD HDD Caviar Black 500GB storage drive OCZ Vertex 2 SSD 60 GB Boot Drive ASUS p67 PRO Motherboard i5 2500k Processor GTX 570 HD GPU This all totals out to $1,262 I'd still need to buy Windows 7. So how well will the parts run together and is this all overkill to run everything on max settings? I don't think I'll ever stream or anything, but may do video editing of some things. Am I missing anything? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
There's a lot of boards so it comes down to the pricing of the retailer where you're buying from. Some good boards include but not limited to the Gigabyte P67 UD3, Z68 D2H, Z68 D3H, Z68 UD2H, and Asrock Z68 Pro3, P67 Pro3. @SleepTech You can get a combo deal for the processor and motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.642515 There are also other alternatives such as an Asrock P67 Extreme4 or a less expensive Z68 board capable of SLI. I'm assuming you want SLI since you selected a SLI capable motherboard? If so, you want to change the power supply. I would not be comfortable with a 750w power supply that provides only 56a on the 12v rail. A GTX 570 alone can use up to 20a under full load and a core i5 2500k uses around 5a under full load. An overclocked 2500k and SLI GTX 570 configuration will put you very close to 56a under maximum load. A 850w unit such as the XFX Core Edition 850w for $120 ($110 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207011 would be much more reasonable for such a configuration. Is the Caviar Black for storage really necessary? A Caviar Blue, Green, or Samsung Spinpoint F3, F4 would all work and all have greater GB per dollar. A Caviar Blue 500GB is going for $35 (regular price $45) right now after promo code MEMORIALWKND (ends 5/31): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 or you could get a Caviar Green 1TB for $58: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490 There's very little performance gains from tigher memory timings and higher frequency as seen here http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/3 and here http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html Save yourself the money and buy 1333MHz cas9 for $75: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424 The configuration is pretty much overkill for SC2, WoW, and Minecraft. Not sure about Starwars though. | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
I don't really care for SLI, was just wanting a great motherboard. I don't really want the micro boards because I'd like to leave upgrading more later as an option. So a big board that would run great is all I need. If a cheaper board can run the 1 card well without bottlenecking then that's fine Storage: I just picked the black becuase it was 6gb/s and I figured 500gb is all I'll ever need as I have a 400gb external as well. Is there much difference between 3 and 6gb/s? I can knock down the RAM to 1333MHz. What do you propose for a build that would run SC2, WoW, minecraft (I know it's not AS intensive), and future games on ultra? I'll try to update my build later or mess around with items. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
There are many full ATX motherboards suitable for a single graphics card or a SLI configuration that is less expensive than the P8P67 Pro. Just to name a few: Asrock Z68 Pro3 for $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251 Asrock P67 Pro3 for $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 Gigabyte Z68 UD3 for $145: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128500 ASUS P8P67 for $160: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131705 Asrock P67 Extreme4 for $160: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229 If you're not doing SLI, you don't need that high of a wattage power supply. If you're remaining with a GTX 570, a Antec Neo Eco 620C for $70 would be adequate to power a single card configuration and have headroom to upgrade: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031 If you're willing to step down to a GTX 560 Ti or GTX 560 than something such as an XFX Core Edition 450w for $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) would be adequate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 SC2, WoW, and basically all of Blizzard games aren't graphic intensive. All their games can be ran on ultra in 1080p with graphics card in the sub $200 range. I would be looking at the GTX 560 Ti as the card offers good performance yet still offer a fair bit of overclocking potential and can be had for as low as $222 ($192 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130634 | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
Thermaltake v9 case $89 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133183 GTX 560 ti $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130634 Antec NEO ECO 620C $69.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031 Sandy Bridge i5 2500k $224 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 Still unsure about motherboard OCZ SSD 60GB $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550 Cavier Green Storage Drive $58 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490 Blu Ray $67 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222 G.Skill 8GB (2x4gb) 1333 (Don't look near as cool  )http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424 This comes out to $927 minus the $179 from motherboard that I haven't decided yet. That'd be $1106 if I keep that motherboard. So I improved $150. Is the ASUS p67 PRO REV3.0 completely unneeded in my build? Would I even feel a difference if I went with this: Asrock P67 Pro3 for $130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The motherboard has negligible impact on performance. You should select a motherboard based on your needs and wants. If you don't want SLI or a specific feature, you shouldn't be looking at $150+ motherboards. I have an ASUS P8P67 personally but only reason I have this board was because of launch availability and the eight SATA ports. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 30 2011 10:28 SleepTech wrote: Is the ASUS p67 PRO REV3.0 completely unneeded in my build? Would I even feel a difference if I went with this: Asrock P67 Pro3 for $130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 Yeah it's unneeded. Keep in mind that the PCIe x16 lanes interfacing the graphics card are routed directly to your CPU. Motherboard won't effect the performance. In terms of performance, the only potentially substantial differences that can be measured are those of the USB3 or extra SATA6 ports (after the 2 supplied by the same Intel P67 or Z68 chipset that everybody has to use) maybe, since that depends on the 3rd party controller chip the motherboard manufacturer uses and how that is interfaced back to the chipset. And even then you might have to run a benchmark to be able to actually tell the difference. CPU/memory/GPU (single GPU) performance is pretty much exactly the same no matter what you get, unless you're overclocking the CPU far and one motherboard can give you a slightly higher stable overclock. AsRock Pro3 is not a bad choice, but I'd just get this i5-2500k and Gigabyte Z68A-D3H ($330), unless you want to run really high CPU overclocks: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.654386 Keep in mind that for SSDs, those based off SandForce controllers quote max transfer speeds that can only be achieved when writing heavily compressible data. Those controllers do real-time compression, which is a nice feature to boost performance, but it won't help on data that doesn't compress well. A Crucial C300 64GB should be slightly better overall than a Vertex 2 60GB and it's slightly cheaper right now at $115: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357 Some anecdotal evidence maybe suggests that the failure rate of the Vertex 2 is higher, but there's little real data on that. For the power supply I'd get the Antec High Current Gamer 520W for $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047 The other choices skyR mentioned were good too. This is pretty much the same as the Neo Eco 620C, except with slightly lower-rated components (so 520W instead of 620W) yet somewhat higher-quality ones, higher efficiency, and a larger fan. | ||
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Herculis
United States5 Posts
Budget: $700, hopefully a bit less. Resolution: No dual monitor necessary for any reason. I have a Dell from 2006 (non-widescreen) I'll be using until I can upgrade to a widescreen. What are you using it for? SC2, and pretty much only that besides some web browsing and word processing. No streaming. What is your upgrade cycle? Around 1.5 years is how often I've upgraded in the past. When do you plan on building it? Within a month. Do you plan on overclocking it? No, I'd probably just break something. Do you need an operating system? Yeah Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No, no need. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg I've got a basic list put together, mostly from reading this thread, but am not sure if the parts will work together well or if I've gone to cheap. Processor: $190 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 MoBo: $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 DVD: $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 HD: $45 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769 OS: $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 GPU: $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878 RAM: $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253 Case: $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115 PSU: $46 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115 | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
Thermaltake v9 case $89 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133183 GTX 560 ti $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130634 Antec High Current Gamer 520W for $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047 Sandy Bridge i5 2500k $224 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 Gigabyte z68 Motherboard $129 (minus $25 for combo) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128502 Crucial C300 64GB Boot Drive $115 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357 Cavier Green Storage Drive $58 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490 Blu Ray $67 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222 G.Skill 8GB (2x4gb) 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424 Comes out to $1,042 How does this build look and is there anywhere that I could cut without cutting performance? Does this build still run blizzard games on ultra plus leave a good structure for future upgrades? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
It's a good build but you mislinked the power supply. May I suggest a CX430 v2 for $45 ($35 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 @SleepTech Yes, it's good. You can switch to a less expensive case such as the Coolermaster HAF 912 for $60 ($50 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 You probably want an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
@Herculis: For your purposes you can get away with the dual-core i3-2100 though and save some more money there, unless you want a little bit higher fps for those huge UMS / multiplayer battles. If you don't need USB3 or SATA3 for your motherboard, you can go a little cheaper too. Look into one of these combos for the i3-2100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.638749 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.648138 + Show Spoiler + That power supply is the same link as the case. As long as you never want to upgrade the GPU to something much better, an Antec Earthwatts Green 380D for $40 would do you well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 edit: CX430 V2 is a bit better though and another good pick @SleepTech: If you're overclocking you'll want an aftermarket heatsink. I forgot to mention it earlier. A good value and easily capable of pretty high overclocks for a i5-2500k would be the Xigmatek Gaia for $30: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Overclocking on the core i5 2500k is simply just entering the BIOS and changing the multiplier from 37 to X number (ex. 44 if you want 4.4GHz or 47 if you want 4.7GHz) and manually entering in a vcore of say 1.3v (or you can just let the motherboard handle this automatically). | ||
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