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I guess I will ask for RAM advice here instead of my BSOD thread.
I would like recommendations for RAM to replace what is currently listed as in my computer.+ Show Spoiler +Mobo: Asus P8P67 PRO
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K @ 4.5GHz (My friend overclocked it from 3.4 to 4.5GHz a year ago)
RAM: Patriot Gamer 2 series 8GB (2x4GB) (DDR3 in dual channel at 9-9-9-24 and 1600MHz)
GPU: Sapphire HD 6970 2GB GDDR5
PSU: Corsair TX850
HDD: OCZ Vertex 2 120GB (Windows and some applications and things)
HDD: WD 1.5TB
I don't want to spend a lot of money on the replacement RAM. I am not planning on replacing any other parts in the computer for a while so I don't want expensive RAM that is going to get bottlenecked by the other parts. At most, I would spend $150 if you feel that there would be a noticeable difference.
ncix.ca and memoryexpress.ca are my preferred retailers. The local memoryexpress can pricematch and I wouldn't need to pay for shipping, whereas with ncix I would.
Thanks helpful and knowledgeable Tech Support guys.
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@Durak:
I looked it up, and Patriot has lifetime warranty for RAM. You should look into that. I'm pretty sure they will require you to send in both sticks of the kit, so you won't be able to keep using this PC. If you can live without this PC for a while (days? weeks? idk), you won't have to buy anything new. If you want to buy something new, you should still talk to Patriot as you will get new RAM from them and can look into selling it.
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On August 14 2013 07:41 TjTeHaNsKy wrote:
What is your budget?
up to 3000
What is your resolution?
2 1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming/streaming. want an all around good comp
What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years
When do you plan on building it?
within 3 weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
yes.
Do you need an Operating System?
yes.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
yes.
Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg/amazon
On August 15 2013 06:32 TjTeHaNsKy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 21:06 Cyro wrote:On August 14 2013 07:41 TjTeHaNsKy wrote:
What is your budget?
up to 3000
What is your resolution?
2 1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming/streaming. want an all around good comp
What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years
When do you plan on building it?
within 3 weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
yes.
Do you need an Operating System?
yes.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
yes.
Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg/amazon I can give this a shot if you want, how are you weighted for cash vs performance? I mean, on 1 to 10 scale with 1 being "only as much as absolutely neccesary" or 10 being "throw everything lolol" how much do you want to spend spend it all is fine. hook a brother up! *edit - also going to grab the third monitor as recommended so 2500 budget for rest.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($95.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2306.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-16 14:00 EDT-0400)
Quick template for budget. Overkill on GPU's, maybe too much so. If your main screen is not either 120/144hz or etc 2560x1440 - or you don't plan on running the game across 3 1920x1080 screens, the second GPU would flat out be a waste. Needs case, maybe HDD depending on wants, maybe not 16gb RAM, it's just cheap and good kit. Could be poking through budget though with everything together, especially if a sweet tower case with lots of airflow is included, which I'd recommend for a high budget multi-gpu system.
Some potential options:
1. SLI 770 instead, but unless you're an enthusiast gpu overclocker (better than me with the gpu stuff) then 780's are basically titans: Read: http://www.overclock.net/t/1400319/titan-vs-780-stock-bios-reference-card-oc-battle/0_20#post_20180994 You could wait for the lightning 780's i think it is, whatever, one of the models - there's a thread on overclock.net - but there might be a model releasing with voltage control, that would let you bump clocks up further (maybe get 15% out of it) if you can control thermals. Maybe worth waiting for that model for single card, probably not for SLI. I think the thread title is 1410mhz on air or something like that - though i wouldn't expect normal people with normal voltages to pass 1300 or so (770's run @1300 with 1536 cores.. 780's have 2344 cores, same architecture, so that's an idea of relative performance)
770's would cut a lot from the budget, and from performance too in GPU bound cases. I have some concerns with streaming and capture methods regardless, i'm not sure how well they work with multi-GPU these days, it's hard to get lots of good info.
2. A different build, around x79 (socket 2011) with either Sandy Bridge-E or Ivy Bridge-E CPU - 6 cores, less powerful. IB-E isn't released yet, it's releasing in the next month or two i don't know the date exactly, but everything points to the cpu's being soldered and we have information showing low power usage, so they will probably (probably..) overclock quite well for CPU's in the ivy bridge/haswell era. I would expect a haswell quad core (4770k) to beat an ivy-bridge E CPU by 10 to 25% depending on the work done, if only 1-4 cores of CPU are used, or a single thread is relied on. A 6 core CPU would have a large advantage when you are using software that can heavily utilize more than 4 cores. It's hard to reccomend this though, because they're weaker per-core in order to have 6 cores and also an architecture behind right now, while also being a lot more expensive. It'd be go-to for more than 2 graphics cards due to supporting more PCI-E lanes or being more versatile in a super high budget system, but i don't think it's appropriate here. They have a performance advantage in a few games, but a performance disadvantage in a lot too, and the extra cores don't help you a ton for running a typical stream, because you're mostly held back by running the actual game itself well, and the interactions and performance losses with capturing the screen - you don't lag with conventional settings because your CPU is at full load, because it just doesn't happen on an overclocked Haswell quad core with normal streaming settings (like 1920x1080, 48fps - and i can't reccomend anything above that anyway due to bandwidth limitations and performance hits on many games)
In the end, i think either sli 770's (a good model of them) or a single 780 is more realistic. Depends what you want.
And maybe a part or two that could be switched out for a better deal, the RAM's down @$63 or something for 8gb which is sweet and i know the kit is decent, mobo/cpu on combo deal for $25 off and i didn't see a reason to go past the d3h - maybe i'm missing something but i don't think so unless there are specific needs here, i'm not sure of case markets on any continent yet (looking into them soon for myself too etc) so i didn't throw one in, the capstone seemed like a good price, and i hit half a dozen CPU coolers, didn't see anything stand out in pricing so threw u14s on. It's hard to beat.
Also to quote an x264 developer:
Performance gain in x264, per clock (roughly):
Ivy Bridge -> Haswell: 17% (~5 of which is from AVX2)
Sandy Bridge -> Haswell: 28%
Nehalem -> Haswell: 39%
^This is why it would hurt to get a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge 6-core CPU - many tasks rely on individual core performance, which is why modern intel CPU's tear apart the competition - but Intel 6-core CPU's sacrifice that a bit, partially by having more, slightly lower clocked cores, and partially by being, right now, an architecture behind the quad cores - x264 is the encoder used by Xsplit/OBS and the best encoder really available, and one of the primary things, most likely, that you would benefit from in having more than 4 cores - but it benefits a LOT from the newer architectures, more than most things - so by going 6 core instead of 4 for a gaming/streaming system, you are most likely, i believe, to be paying to shoot yourself in the foot right now. Haswell-E, in late 2014 if it doesn't get delayed, will come before the next Intel quad core architecture and also have an 8-core option, so that won't really be the case then, it will be a beastly CPU and platform if hopes hold up, but that's a year maybe a year and a half out, so not really too relevant right now.
Any comments/suggestions on this appriciated
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There will also be an i7-4820k for X79 with probably similar price as i7-4770k. If that one's soldered, that could make socket 2011 pretty interesting compared to 4770k + Z87.
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Aaah good point, but then again, it's still ivy bridge. You might be able to use 0.15 or even 0.2v more with the same x264 temperatures due to the solder and lack of IVR etc, but it's still an ivy bridge quad. I mean if Haswell @4.3, which i can do on stock voltage, beats ivy bridge at 5.0 in x264, it's not much of a competition, and 2011 is both the more expensive and the worse platform if you're talking quad vs quad with only one or two gpu's, no?
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RAM bandwidth is doubled for the 4820k so that might do something to get them closer and make it compare differently than what it was like for 3770k vs. 4770k.
EDIT: I tried looking at benchmarks of 3820 and 3770 and 4770 to maybe answer that but can't really find anything definitive. It looks like the doubled bandwidth does pretty much nothing most of the time. 
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On August 17 2013 03:10 Ropid wrote:
@Durak:
I looked it up, and Patriot has lifetime warranty for RAM. You should look into that. I'm pretty sure they will require you to send in both sticks of the kit, so you won't be able to keep using this PC. If you can live without this PC for a while (days? weeks? idk), you won't have to buy anything new. If you want to buy something new, you should still talk to Patriot as you will get new RAM from them and can look into selling it.
Thanks for the heads-up! I talked to memoryexpress and they don't want to be the intermediary greater than one year after purchase. I will talk to and send it into Patriot directly.
Regardless, I'd still like to get new RAM. I can use any RAM that Patriot sends me in my other computer so recommendations would still be appreciated.
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On August 17 2013 03:55 Durak wrote:
Regardless, I'd still like to get new RAM. I can use any RAM that Patriot sends me in my other computer so recommendations would still be appreciated.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34251
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On August 17 2013 03:52 Ropid wrote:
RAM bandwidth is doubled for the 4820k so that might do something to get them closer and make it compare differently than what it was like for 3770k vs. 4770k.
Looked into it a little because x264 isn't too reliant on RAM (only a few % from low end to high end) and anandtech bench puts 3930k as ~44% faster on x264 pass 2 than 2600k at stock + turbo's, even though that should put both cpu's to 3.5ghz? 2600k - 34x +1x - 3930k - 32x +3x (both 3.5ghz)
It's probably a bad bench but i don't think going from dual channel to quad is significant there
EDIT: I tried looking at benchmarks of 3820 and 3770 and 4770 to maybe answer that but can't really find anything definitive. It looks like the doubled bandwidth does pretty much nothing most of the time.
Yea that's pretty much what i got too
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On August 17 2013 03:11 Cyro wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 14 2013 07:41 TjTeHaNsKy wrote:
What is your budget?
up to 3000
What is your resolution?
2 1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming/streaming. want an all around good comp
What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years
When do you plan on building it?
within 3 weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
yes.
Do you need an Operating System?
yes.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
yes.
Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg/amazon On August 15 2013 06:32 TjTeHaNsKy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 21:06 Cyro wrote:On August 14 2013 07:41 TjTeHaNsKy wrote:
What is your budget?
up to 3000
What is your resolution?
2 1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming/streaming. want an all around good comp
What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years
When do you plan on building it?
within 3 weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
yes.
Do you need an Operating System?
yes.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
yes.
Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg/amazon I can give this a shot if you want, how are you weighted for cash vs performance? I mean, on 1 to 10 scale with 1 being "only as much as absolutely neccesary" or 10 being "throw everything lolol" how much do you want to spend spend it all is fine. hook a brother up! *edit - also going to grab the third monitor as recommended so 2500 budget for rest. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / BenchmarksCPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.00 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.00 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($95.99 @ Amazon) Total: $2306.93 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-16 14:00 EDT-0400)Quick template for budget. Overkill on GPU's, maybe too much so. If your main screen is not either 120/144hz or etc 2560x1440 - or you don't plan on running the game across 3 1920x1080 screens, the second GPU would flat out be a waste. Needs case, maybe HDD depending on wants, maybe not 16gb RAM, it's just cheap and good kit. Could be poking through budget though with everything together, especially if a sweet tower case with lots of airflow is included, which I'd recommend for a high budget multi-gpu system. Some potential options: 1. SLI 770 instead, but unless you're an enthusiast gpu overclocker (better than me with the gpu stuff) then 780's are basically titans: Read: http://www.overclock.net/t/1400319/titan-vs-780-stock-bios-reference-card-oc-battle/0_20#post_20180994 You could wait for the lightning 780's i think it is, whatever, one of the models - there's a thread on overclock.net - but there might be a model releasing with voltage control, that would let you bump clocks up further (maybe get 15% out of it) if you can control thermals. Maybe worth waiting for that model for single card, probably not for SLI. I think the thread title is 1410mhz on air or something like that - though i wouldn't expect normal people with normal voltages to pass 1300 or so (770's run @1300 with 1536 cores.. 780's have 2344 cores, same architecture, so that's an idea of relative performance) 770's would cut a lot from the budget, and from performance too in GPU bound cases. I have some concerns with streaming and capture methods regardless, i'm not sure how well they work with multi-GPU these days, it's hard to get lots of good info. 2. A different build, around x79 (socket 2011) with either Sandy Bridge-E or Ivy Bridge-E CPU - 6 cores, less powerful. IB-E isn't released yet, it's releasing in the next month or two i don't know the date exactly, but everything points to the cpu's being soldered and we have information showing low power usage, so they will probably (probably..) overclock quite well for CPU's in the ivy bridge/haswell era. I would expect a haswell quad core (4770k) to beat an ivy-bridge E CPU by 10 to 25% depending on the work done, if only 1-4 cores of CPU are used, or a single thread is relied on. A 6 core CPU would have a large advantage when you are using software that can heavily utilize more than 4 cores. It's hard to reccomend this though, because they're weaker per-core in order to have 6 cores and also an architecture behind right now, while also being a lot more expensive. It'd be go-to for more than 2 graphics cards due to supporting more PCI-E lanes or being more versatile in a super high budget system, but i don't think it's appropriate here. They have a performance advantage in a few games, but a performance disadvantage in a lot too, and the extra cores don't help you a ton for running a typical stream, because you're mostly held back by running the actual game itself well, and the interactions and performance losses with capturing the screen - you don't lag with conventional settings because your CPU is at full load, because it just doesn't happen on an overclocked Haswell quad core with normal streaming settings (like 1920x1080, 48fps - and i can't reccomend anything above that anyway due to bandwidth limitations and performance hits on many games) In the end, i think either sli 770's (a good model of them) or a single 780 is more realistic. Depends what you want. And maybe a part or two that could be switched out for a better deal, the RAM's down @$63 or something for 8gb which is sweet and i know the kit is decent, mobo/cpu on combo deal for $25 off and i didn't see a reason to go past the d3h - maybe i'm missing something but i don't think so unless there are specific needs here, i'm not sure of case markets on any continent yet (looking into them soon for myself too etc) so i didn't throw one in, the capstone seemed like a good price, and i hit half a dozen CPU coolers, didn't see anything stand out in pricing so threw u14s on. It's hard to beat. Also to quote an x264 developer: Performance gain in x264, per clock (roughly):
Ivy Bridge -> Haswell: 17% (~5 of which is from AVX2)
Sandy Bridge -> Haswell: 28%
Nehalem -> Haswell: 39% ^This is why it would hurt to get a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge 6-core CPU - many tasks rely on individual core performance, which is why modern intel CPU's tear apart the competition - but Intel 6-core CPU's sacrifice that a bit, partially by having more, slightly lower clocked cores, and partially by being, right now, an architecture behind the quad cores - x264 is the encoder used by Xsplit/OBS and the best encoder really available, and one of the primary things, most likely, that you would benefit from in having more than 4 cores - but it benefits a LOT from the newer architectures, more than most things - so by going 6 core instead of 4 for a gaming/streaming system, you are most likely, i believe, to be paying to shoot yourself in the foot right now. Haswell-E, in late 2014 if it doesn't get delayed, will come before the next Intel quad core architecture and also have an 8-core option, so that won't really be the case then, it will be a beastly CPU and platform if hopes hold up, but that's a year maybe a year and a half out, so not really too relevant right now. Any comments/suggestions on this appriciated
Only a 250g sdd? Bugger that, the evo comes in 1tb. Definitely grab a 500g at least, its bigger and faster.
I mean 1tb, its amazing. Barely even need a storage hdd. Its is pretty expensive though.
Otherwise looks great, dat gpu power.
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there's only $200 left in the budget and case etc has to come in that, another 750gb of ssd storage would be costly :D
Maybe 500gb with sli770's on z87+4770k would fit well with no hard drive. Actually yea, that's probably best idea. Could even drop to a capstone 650 or similar PSU then, or just keep the 750m because capstone 750 modular for under $100 is pretty sweet and being higher on the efficiency curve is nice
Edit: It was just a 750. Not 750m, oops
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($369.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($95.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($0.00)
Total: $2026.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-16 15:24 EDT-0400)
Can cut $50 from each gpu ($100 total) going for 2gb VRAM version instead of 4, but 4 is more futureproofy and good for wrecking stuff with lots of AA and 2560x1440/5760x1080. The 780 only has 3gb, which is ok, but 770 is 2gb/4gb and it's very difficult to make yourself limited with 3gb, but plausible with 2gb
The estimated wattage is based on the TDP and thus wrong, because TDP does not mean actual power consumption, and due to 770's using "tdp" for gpu boost and other factors, they have a tdp of 230w while only consuming 160-170 or so while at max load in anything but a synthetic test. Running Unigine heaven 4.0 (a gpu benchmark) and linpack without AVX, i'd put that config including system fans etc maybe a hair below 500w with OC - you can't OC the GPU's much though as they're locked at 1.212v. That's already pretty high though. With SLI, i'd expect the cards to reach the 80's with sustained full load at that volt with a basic stock voltage OC on them and fans held down by a manual fan speed curve to keep them below where they start to get noisy. 80c isn't a bad temp at all for multi-gpu though - it's just at the point where you probably don't wanna OC much with volts anyway even if you could
Need more feedback especially from the guy that wants the build :0
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First one is already in the price total, SWEET grab on the ram though, 16gb 2400mhz 11-13-13-31 1.65v for $112
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I'm a total newbie
Will this build work/ What would you guys recommend?
Case: COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel ($44.99 @ NewEgg)
Motherboard: MSI B85-G41 PC Mate LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX High Performance CF Intel Motherboard ($79.99 @ NewEgg)
Video Card: MSI N650TI-1GD5/V1 GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 ($114.99 @ NewEgg)
Power Supply : Rosewill CAPSTONE-450 450W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD, ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92, SLI/CrossFire Ready ($59.99 @ NewEgg)
CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 Haswell 3.0GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor (@189.99 @ NewEgg)
RAM: Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ($37.99 @ NewEgg)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NewEgg)
[b] Optical Drive[\b]:SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224DB/BEBE (Model:SH-224DB/BEBE) ($19.99 @ NewEgg)
[b]OS[\b]:Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (OEM) System Builder DVD 1 Pack + Ubuntu ($90.91 @ Amazon)
[b]SSD[\b]:60GB INTEL 330 SERIE SSD ($49.00 @ Fry's)
I want to put both OSs on the SSD to boot from them, and everything else on the 1TB disc, will that work? Thanks
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Xigmatek Elysium Black ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($94.53 @ Amazon)
Total: $2412.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-16 18:01 EDT-0400)
Cut a bit of fat from build talking with Gumbi, 2gb 770's not suitable for everyone and 4gb's not great price: performance. 780's are better than stuff on AMD side for raw performance in a 2x GPU setup on z87 and for efficiency, where you're pulling 600w into case and heat is a bigger factor than a single card, added the Xigmatek Elysium as a random example of a high airflow case (can put 2*120mm front, 2*200mm top, 1*200mm bottom, 1*140mm rear, 1*200mm side)
Lot of airflow, with 2x120mm+2x200mm intake and 1x140mm+2x200mm exhaust or something along those lines.
Need feedback for direction from guy who wants build, etcetc. This is pretty clean and powerful though. Any suggestions for PSU? This would pull a touch over 600 in normal max gpu loads with cpu also at high load, not sure if it's best to run capstone 750 with it but it seems cheaper than other good psu options
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On August 17 2013 06:56 KnoToasT wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I'm a total newbie
Will this build work/ What would you guys recommend?
Case: COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel ($44.99 @ NewEgg)
Motherboard: MSI B85-G41 PC Mate LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX High Performance CF Intel Motherboard ($79.99 @ NewEgg)
Video Card: MSI N650TI-1GD5/V1 GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 ($114.99 @ NewEgg)
Power Supply : Rosewill CAPSTONE-450 450W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD, ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92, SLI/CrossFire Ready ($59.99 @ NewEgg)
CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 Haswell 3.0GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor (@189.99 @ NewEgg)
RAM: Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ($37.99 @ NewEgg)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NewEgg)
[b] Optical Drive[\b]:SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224DB/BEBE (Model:SH-224DB/BEBE) ($19.99 @ NewEgg)
[b]OS[\b]:Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (OEM) System Builder DVD 1 Pack + Ubuntu ($90.91 @ Amazon)
[b]SSD[\b]:60GB INTEL 330 SERIE SSD ($49.00 @ Fry's)
I want to put both OSs on the SSD to boot from them, and everything else on the 1TB disc, will that work? Thanks
You can save a bit of money by going with an mATX B85 with a Fractal Design Core 1000: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032
You can save a few dollars by getting HDD and optical drive in bundle: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1417285
Core i5 4430 can also be had from Amazon for $10 less: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4430-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8T9VC
There are probably some other improvements you can make but I'm a bit busy right now.
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What is your budget?
$900-$1000
What is your resolution?
1366x768. Though I plan to dual monitor with the same resolution.
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming. I plan to play games like BF4 and Arma 3 in semi-ultra settings.
What is your upgrade cycle?
1 year.
When do you plan on building it?
Within 2 weeks. My current comp is already dying.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes. Windows 7.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg or Amazon.
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Alright so my 9800 GTX died and I'm looking to replace it.
I'm thinking:
Sapphire 7850 1GB $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004
I play on 1080p and currently the most demanding game I play right now is probably Skyrim. I would be getting free games though... Or should I get a cheaper card?
Also it will work on PCIe 1.1 x16? I'm pretty sure it will but I have to ask anyways lol.
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