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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Well, acutally 300 if you use my RAM. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On July 15 2013 13:34 iTzSnypah wrote: More performance going Pentium (G2020, $65) + 6670/7730. Hell even a Celeron (G1610) would be better than an A10. I was looking at benchmarks, that doesn't seem to follow. Celeron performance is pretty abysmal, and at least on paper A10 does quite well. I know AMD has been lacking, and if I wanted to get a GPU as well a pentium would make sense. I just thought that at this relatively low price point an A10 would prove adequate in both areas and keep costs low. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
In terms of keeping up with graphics demands, Belial had FPS in like the 40's on 1366x768 med settings with integrated ivy bridge graphics, you'd probably be able to run the game ok on APU graphics but you need to be wary of FPS dropping with more demands on the CPU *Can get close to it in most games, but many games push below. Occasionally for example, there's something like a 1v1 replay i grabbed with a few people from drop.sc - where there is a maxed battle over 50 missile turrets, and no CPU can take that very well at all | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
I think playable on medium (fps not dropping below 30, in most reasonable cases) would be reasonable. He just wants to be able to play it at some level. He'll get a laptop for college in a couple years but he has a 1.5ghz dual core 7 year old laptop so something as a stopgap would be good. I could also go with separate GPU/CPU but I'm not sure a good way to do that. | ||
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caedmon-
Australia64 Posts
On July 14 2013 22:29 Ropid wrote: + Show Spoiler + @caedmon-: If it's up to 40 C in the room, you might want to look at some cheap aftermarket cooler even without overclocking. There were reports that some of the new CPUs get very hot even without overclocking with Intel's cooler. I don't know at what room temperature that was tested, but it surely wasn't 40 C. Just look for something using heat-pipes and it'll be a lot better than Intel's default cooler. That $25 CM Hyper TX3 in that pccasegear.com shop might be the best choice. Its specs say the fan can go down to 800 rpm, which should be quiet. The larger the fan is, the more quiet it'll be in practice, so I don't know if that cooler with its small fan really is a good choice, but the $40 coolers are definitely overkill. Noise isn't a major concern. I'd be using open ear headphones, but I don't leave my computer on at night. How difficult is it to install an aftermarket cooler? And if it is fairly difficult, will I really lose out much if I get an i5 3570 instead? edit: Google isn't very encouraging when it comes to Haswells and heat, but I think that's mostly in relation to overclocking? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Not sure why you are considering the 3570 again? | ||
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caedmon-
Australia64 Posts
On July 15 2013 20:03 skyR wrote: Depends on the cooler. Some are a nightmare (eg. Coolermaster Hyper 212) while the high-end ones (eg. Noctua, Phantek, Thermalright) are a breeze. You can always add one later if you find that heat becomes an issue. And since the Corsair 300R has a backplate opening, it's not going to be that difficult. Not sure why you are considering the 3570 again? The 3570 was only a consideration if aftermarket cooling was going to be a nightmare and the 4670 was going to run too hot without it. Adding one later sounds like a fair idea. It's the middle of winter over here so heat won't be an issue for quite some time in any event. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 15 2013 19:54 caedmon- wrote: Noise isn't a major concern. I'd be using open ear headphones, but I don't leave my computer on at night. How difficult is it to install an aftermarket cooler? And if it is fairly difficult, will I really lose out much if I get an i5 3570 instead? edit: Google isn't very encouraging when it comes to Haswells and heat, but I think that's mostly in relation to overclocking? Tx3 has exactly the same mounting as stock cooler, and picking one up in summer if it becomes an issue sounds like a good plan. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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caedmon-
Australia64 Posts
Will let you guys know how the assembly goes if you're interested. :D Thanks again for the help! Much appreciated! | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
For hardcorer gaming, particularly CPU intensive games such as SC2 you want Intel + GPU. $400 should afford Core i3 + HD7750 sans case and peripherals, or Celeron + HD7750 otherwise. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
I have an A6-3670K and play EVE Online fine, Dota 2 on minimums and Planetside 2 barely Man i saw dips into the 30's-40's due to singlethreaded performance on my 4770k@4.7ghz.. dunno how you went anywhere near biodomes :D On pretty much the fastest setup available (unless you can beat an above average overclocking haswell chip on high end air) built to run 144hz, crysis 3 maxed with light aa has like 3-5x the framerate of ps2 in a biodome ![]() Performance is very largely subjective i think anyway. There's a ton of people saying sc2 runs fine on a phenom II 965 BE for example, even at stock, though overclocked haswell has no real trouble being 2.5-3x or even faster in terms of minimum fps APU is good value for very low budget, but the argument for going i3 for example is exactly for games that rely on a single thread, like planetside 2 or starcraft 2, and neither of those run at all well on the highest end systems available, nevermind a budget build | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 15 2013 12:41 XenOmega wrote: Money reply : The goal of my friend is to play Rome Total War 2 perfectly (whatever that means) on 1080 resolution. It has to run smoothly. Eventually, he will add sport games + shooter to his computer. The latter worries me because depending on titles, some shooters can be quite demanding (say Battlefield) What is ME? it is memory express. You can scroll back a few pages to see the parts I got, based on skyr's recommendation. | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On July 16 2013 02:09 Cyro wrote: Man i saw dips into the 30's-40's due to singlethreaded performance on my 4770k@4.7ghz.. dunno how you went anywhere near biodomes :D On pretty much the fastest setup available (unless you can beat an above average overclocking haswell chip on high end air) built to run 144hz, crysis 3 maxed with light aa has like 3-5x the framerate of ps2 in a biodome ![]() Performance is very largely subjective i think anyway. There's a ton of people saying sc2 runs fine on a phenom II 965 BE for example, even at stock, though overclocked haswell has no real trouble being 2.5-3x or even faster in terms of minimum fps What settings are you using for PS2? I've been experimenting around recently with my 4770k @ 4.4 (when it's avoiding those weird issues I still haven't figured out), I can't set physX to high or I get random CTD w/ no error message but I have everything else on high and textures on Ultra currently, pretty happy with performance (no motion blur, it's annoying). | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
On wireless and from Brazil to US East I'm usually around even k/d, which I'm satisfied with. I wish I had a 4770k to fudge with but I would have no use for the thing, even streaming is a no go with 1MB upload without possibility to upgrade ![]() | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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