EPTThe actual power use should be around 300 W under full load of everything, so something that can reliably do 450 W is quite safe and won't be stressed and get hot and noisy.
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
The actual power use should be around 300 W under full load of everything, so something that can reliably do 450 W is quite safe and won't be stressed and get hot and noisy. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Are you really upgrading into a last-gen processor, or are you upgrading out of it? Also, that's either a i5-3570k or i7-3770k. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On July 17 2013 09:53 Froadac wrote: What would the cheapest practical intel build be? Does pentium really outperform A10 that hard? I actually don't think it would... you can get a dual core A6-6400K for 80$, where the comparable intel CPU is a pentium G2120 at 3.1ghz ivy bridge. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113335 3.9Ghz Richland APU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116777 Pentium G2120 @ 3.1Ghz Richland has a 65W TDP, G2120 has a 55W TDP. Considering ivy bridge comes with roughly a ~40-50%? IPC gain over Richland, we'd be looking at maybe a "4.5Ghz" Richland APU* vs the 6400k that naturally turbos to 4.2 (quick google search), is unlocked, and comes with a much better IGP than the HD2500 (HD2000?). I think sub 100$ the APU can actually win out because of the massive frequency offsetting the IPC, without making power obnoxiously high. This APU to me actually seems like a really nice gem given how highly it's clocked. You'd be having maybe 10% cpu advantage before overclocking, and a crippled GPU since you can't get HD4000 in any of these cpus. I think AMD actually wins here? * that's really dirty math, apologies haha. Edit: same story at 50$. 2.6Ghz Ivy Bridge vs 3.2Ghz Richland... a "3.9Ghz" Richland APU which is a bit worse for CPU (20-25% advantage) while using a vastly inferior GPU, even with the crippled IGP in an A4-4000 it should run circles around an HD2500. The A4-5300 Trinity CPU also turbos to 3.6Ghz/3.4Ghz stock so it should be even closer in CPU, better in GPU. Again, same TDPs. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
I think Intel is indisputably king when you hit unlocked i5 range, but damn, AMD's entire range is below that. Unlocked Haswell i5 costs £190, and the fx-8350 goes on sale for £140. The boards are cheaper too on AMD side, and ofc, intel really had nothing to compete with the APU's if you can use their graphics | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + BIOSTAR H61MLC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340 54.99$ Processor: Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 189.99$ Graphics Card: HIS H687FN1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389 164.99$ RAM: Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003 23.49$ Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 54.99$ Case: XIGMATEK Asgard II http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004 29.99$ Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030 54.99$ Optical Drive: SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233 16.99$ and im fairly sure my mother board is having recurring issues, or some combination of my motherboard/psu but I'm just going to replace the motherboard first But I was hoping the wizards of tech support could recommend a new one that will work with that set up (my big fear is not knowing about some weird compatibility issues). Price isn't a huge issue though I dont use my pc for too much (making music and photoshop mostly these days) but I don't want to get another MOBO that's gonna crap out on me or anything. Though to be honest I dont really know what a better mobo does that a lesser quality one doesnt or what motivation one actually has for buying a nicer one lol. And I'm also looking to replace the case as I REALLY dont like the asgard, I dont want to spend much on the case but I found the asgard to be a cheap pos, imo, so I want to avoid that again as well lol TLDR; looking for compatible replacement MOBO and new cheapish case thanks alot in advance for any help! I always appreciate it forever | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032 Biostar has a three year warranty so just request a RMA. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On July 17 2013 12:29 skyR wrote: Fractal Design Core 1000 for $34 (with promo code EMCXNWP226 ) is a good option right now for cheap cases: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032 Biostar has a three year warranty so just request a RMA. skyR you always seem to reply to my posts first, it's almost unsettling (though the promptness is awesome). I tried to order that case but it doesn't ship to Canada from newegg.com, or am I doing something wrong? And it appears to be quite a bit more at .ca  | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Well, you can't really get anything that good without spending more, but BitFenix Merc Beta should at least be better than that Xigmatek. That's on sale for $30 now (commonly $35-40): http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=81659&promoid=1337 | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
If you want to deal with mail in rebates than there's an Antec P280 at $100 before mail in rebates and $70 afterwards at: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?&item_id=053138 , pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129188 There's also the Fractal Design Define R4's for $90 which should be considered since it's a very nice case: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40047 , pricematch with http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75050&promoid=1337 | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
Thanks skyR | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On July 18 2013 04:07 Alryk wrote: Yeah if you want low budget just get an APU of some sort. If you want more GPU performance you can go to a 6800K without spending too much more. my only concern is what RAM would be required to make that work. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On an A10-5800K ![[image loading]](http://media.bestofmicro.com/G/3/369939/original/EffDiff.png) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-bandwidth-scaling-trinity,3419.html | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231474 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666 If you were looking for either. But like Skyr said, *any* ddr3 kit will be fine for any modern CPU. | ||
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Lifan
United States73 Posts
$700-800; although there is a small wiggle room. What is your resolution? I plan on using a monitor that is 1680 x 1050, the Viewsonic VA2226w, although if there is a significant improvement, I'm open to get a new one. http://www.hk.viewsonic.com/en/products/productspecs.php?id=327 What are you using it for? Starcraft II mostly, although I'd like ideally to be able to play Rome II when it comes out. The Fifa titles too What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years When do you plan on building it? About 2-4 weeks from now Do you plan on overclocking? Not really Do you need an Operating System? nope Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? nope Where are you buying your parts from? Online I'd suppose, although there is a microcenter near-by Thanks in advance.  Edit 2: Nevermind, looked up some of the stuff, and the bundle was no longer available and one of the parts was discontinued + Show Spoiler + mITX: i5-4430 & Slim DVD Burner $203.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1360008 ASRock B85M-ITX $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157390 Samsung 840 120GB $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147185 SilverStone Sugo SG05 w/450w PSU $114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163208 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 & MSI HD7770 $167.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1377356 Win7 $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Total: $776.92 Although it does include a windows 7 as part of it which I don't need, not sure how that affects the rest of the parts | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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