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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On June 07 2013 22:27 holistic wrote: Where does one sell their decrepit, custom PC? Craigslist*. A sucker is born every minute. They might even thank you if they're used to crappy prebuilts loaded with bloatware and you give them a nice, slim, clean software environment. *or other online classifieds. In Salt Lake City, for instance, the website for the local tv station, KSL, has become the dominant center for local used commerce. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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evoli
United States333 Posts
On June 07 2013 15:28 Superiorwolf wrote: Hey okay so you guys told me to wait for the next line of Intel processors, and from what I can tell it looks like they are out! Please give me thoughts on my plan here: Current PC i5-2400 nVidia GTX 560ti H67MA-E35 Motherboard 8 GB RAM 90 GB SSD 500 GB HDD 760 W PSU Extra Parts Radeon HD 4850 512 MB And my plan is to turn it all into this: New PC i7-4770K ($350) Link NEW nVidia GTX 560ti MSI ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Z87-G43 Motherboard ($120) Link NEW 8 GB RAM 90 GB SSD 500 GB HDD Cooler Master 460 W Power Supply ($35) Link NEW Aftermarket Cooler (?) PC for my parents i5-2400 H67MA-E35 Radeon HD 4850 4 GB RAM ($31) Link NEW 500 GB HDD Western Digital ($57) Link NEW Cooler Master 460 W Power Supply ($35) Link NEW Total Cost: $628 Questions: Some people have said that the upgrade from i5-2400 to i5-4670k would not be that big of an improvement, I decided to go with i7-4770k after hearing it's better for streaming (I'd like to be able to stream on better settings). Currently I think the i5-2400 is my bottleneck, and late game in SC2 I get sub 30 fps, and probably even lower in battles. I would like to be able to play like on the MLG computers that were at a constant 200 fps throughout. How much gain will there be without overclocking, and with some moderate overclocking? Will the power supply unit be enough power, and will it be quiet if it's at a high load? I am very much concerned with fan noise because right now I think my PSU is what is causing my computer to be so loud and I really really want a quiet computer! Also a PSU comes with all the cords you need to connect things right? Any suggestions for better options (mobo, psu, etc.) that you think would be nicer or if there are any good deals going on right now? Should I get an aftermarket cooler with moderate overclocking? Get a bigger HDD. Those techno podcasts add up fast! | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On June 07 2013 08:59 skyR wrote: The Corsair HX650 is based on the Seasonic G so chances are that some Seasonic G units will also exhibit chirping. I just noticed that the HX650 only has two PCIe connectors which is unfortunate. I wouldn't suggest that anymoore since you probably don't want to be dealing with molex adapters when you're spending this much. Unfortunately there aren't many choices. Most platforms aren't as good as Seasonics or Superflowers. And besides Capstones, Superflower based units are few and far between in North America, also expensive. The Corsair HX750 which is a CWT unit is also on sale right now on Newegg but iirc, coil whine is a common complaint. The third revision of Seasonic X has the switch to toggle between hybrid and normal fan operations so that will get rid of the chirping sound I guess but reports of coil whine on the X series is also quite common. I think I've finally found the PSU for me: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182083 . It uses ATNG as an OEM which was mentioned as poor quality, but the reviews I've read of it have been excellent. Its price after rebate is $89.99, which is right around what I was looking for out of a 650W. While initially I was hoping for a modular PSU, and this isn't, I think the fact that it's platinum-rated instead of gold like others at this price point should make up for that. Any alternate opinions before I pull the trigger? | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
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TooL
Canada275 Posts
Currently have: i5 760 processor GTX 470 video card Intel DP55KG motherboard 12gb DDR3 1600hz ram 128 gb Samsung 840 Pro asus vg248qe and alienware AW2310 monitors Budget: $1500-2000 Looking to build a water-cooled, somewhat energy efficient machine. Not too familiar with how to assemble a custom water--cooling kit but will be looking at Swifttech H220 preassembled kit unless i can be persuaded otherwise. . My resolution is 1920x1080, and my goal would be to get as close to 120 frames per second in the games that I play and I also expect to stream without much performance loss. I will be overclocking, but not extremely aggressively, and would like to have the potential for SLI in the future. Thanks for the help guys. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
damn that took a long time, i blame the silver arrow and those tiny tiny tiny little screws Not too familiar with how to assemble a custom water--cooling kit but will be looking at Swifttech H220 preassembled kit unless i can be persuaded otherwise. . My resolution is 1920x1080, and my goal would be to get as close to 120 frames per second in the games that I play and I also expect to stream without much performance loss. I will be overclocking, but not extremely aggressively, and would like to have the potential for SLI in the future. You should talk about what you are looking to get from water cooling | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:05 Antoine wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On June 07 2013 08:59 skyR wrote: The Corsair HX650 is based on the Seasonic G so chances are that some Seasonic G units will also exhibit chirping. I just noticed that the HX650 only has two PCIe connectors which is unfortunate. I wouldn't suggest that anymoore since you probably don't want to be dealing with molex adapters when you're spending this much. Unfortunately there aren't many choices. Most platforms aren't as good as Seasonics or Superflowers. And besides Capstones, Superflower based units are few and far between in North America, also expensive. The Corsair HX750 which is a CWT unit is also on sale right now on Newegg but iirc, coil whine is a common complaint. The third revision of Seasonic X has the switch to toggle between hybrid and normal fan operations so that will get rid of the chirping sound I guess but reports of coil whine on the X series is also quite common. I think I've finally found the PSU for me: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182083 . It uses ATNG as an OEM which was mentioned as poor quality, but the reviews I've read of it have been excellent. Its price after rebate is $89.99, which is right around what I was looking for out of a 650W. While initially I was hoping for a modular PSU, and this isn't, I think the fact that it's platinum-rated instead of gold like others at this price point should make up for that. Any alternate opinions before I pull the trigger? I didn't mention that ATNG was bad as a whole, just that the units Rosewill used in the past were bad. The Fortress is a good line of power supplies and that is a good sale for a non-modular 650w platinum unit. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:25 Infernal_dream wrote: Thinking of upgrading from CF 6850's to something. Been looking a lot at 7970's. Nothing really wrong with my cards but tired of the microstuttering and driver issues between games. Any advice for GPU's at the moment? Wont upgrading from crossfire 6870's to crossfire 7970's still have microstuttering? And one 7970 probably won't have much if any advantage over two 6870's. If you wanted better single GPU you'd probably have to have either 780 or Titan. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On June 08 2013 05:28 Alryk wrote: Wont upgrading from crossfire 6870's to crossfire 7970's still have microstuttering? And one 7970 probably won't have much if any advantage over two 6870's. If you wanted better single GPU you'd probably have to have either 780 or Titan. I'd be going from two cards to one, not getting CF of whatever upgrade I'm looking at. Also, it's 6850's not 70's. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
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TooL
Canada275 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:54 Cyro wrote: IT IS DONE damn that took a long time, i blame the silver arrow and those tiny tiny tiny little screws You should talk about what you are looking to get from water cooling Mainly to reduce the noise and heat in my office. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On June 08 2013 06:12 Cyro wrote: + Show Spoiler + Clocked to 4.6, 1.2v manual everything else default, bluescreened on boot, set 4.5, booted, passed a few mins of IBT, dropped voltage to 1.18, passed a few mins of ibt, opened sc2, reset temp monitor, ran through a highish supply 1v1 replay a few times to check fps, x8, x1 speed etc (550fps at start yay) and checked max temp after from sc2. 47c on hottest core. *cheer* + Show Spoiler + Very cool. Keep us updated. I'd like to know where you end up with a stable overclock and sane voltages. How's the Silver Arrow SB-E? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
On June 08 2013 06:24 TooL wrote: Mainly to reduce the noise and heat in my office. You can get quiet air cooling; and cooling is just your method of transfering heat from the CPU to the room. Liquid cooling will use a liquid block on the CPU, to transfer heat from the CPU to the fluids it uses; which is pumped through pipes into a radiator (convector) where fans blow air through fins in order to conduct the heat from the liquid into the room air* *tl;dr water cooling wont make your room heat up less | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
On June 08 2013 06:30 Wabbit wrote: + Show Spoiler + Very cool. Keep us updated. I'd like to know where you end up with a stable overclock and sane voltages. How's the Silver Arrow SB-E? + Show Spoiler + It's a bitch :D I have the SE, special edition (by accident but hey, im not too mad, the fans are capped at 1200rpm instead of >2k but the temp difference seems to be only a few degrees, and it's a more sexy color) Installing it onto the board was a pain, and particularly, the board design was weird and i had trouble plugging fans in, and getting one of the screws in. I don't think the z87x-ud3h was designed with this cooler in mind, the silver arrow just had 1150 support tagged on, because the mounting brackets were the same. If i didn't have a slightly magnetized screwdriver, i literally wouldn't have been able to install the cooler, if i didn't have somebody with small hands around i wouldn't have been able to use the cpu fan pins either (would have had to default to system 2 one) I'm playing with OC a bit but i need to read a guide. I've read bits and pieces everywhere, but i dont want to just dive in and start adjusting random settings; I need to learn haswell a bit better first. CPU seems above average but not insane, which i'm happy about. No delid yet becuase i wanted to use it for a while first, and because i am freaked out by the CPU being like 3.5 centimeters across. I imagined them as being 4x bigger after looking at so many pictures | ||
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TooL
Canada275 Posts
On June 08 2013 06:32 Cyro wrote: You can get quiet air cooling; and cooling is just your method of transfering heat from the CPU to the room. Liquid cooling will use a liquid block on the CPU, to transfer heat from the CPU to the fluids it uses; which is pumped through pipes into a radiator (convector) where fans blow air through fins in order to conduct the heat from the liquid into the room air* *tl;dr water cooling wont make your room heat up less I realize the ambient temperature of the room would be same after a certain amount of time, however, water will not raise the temperature of the air as quickly as a normal heat-sink would. A radiator also opens up the option of placing it outside of the case and managing the heat in different ways. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
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