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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
That's ignoring the part where he tells you to spread it with something that could fuck up the processor or mobo. Even if you advocate manual spreading (which is only worth considering with the lower viscosity pastes that you REALLY don't want that much of), you don't do it with something that can damage components or scratch/dent the CPU IHS and fuck with your thermal conductivity even if it doesn't break shit. | ||
Craton
United States17233 Posts
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
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Spermwahale
United States85 Posts
I'm wondering if this is a good computer build? I may want to just go with radeon 7850 HD 1 GB version because my budget is 600-700 WITH windows 7.. Do you guys see any problem with my build? Should i change my cpu to intel? What are your guys thoughts? | ||
Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On February 15 2013 15:37 Spermwahale wrote: http://www.pcpartpicker.com/p/Dg1J I'm wondering if this is a good computer build? I may want to just go with radeon 7850 HD 1 GB version because my budget is 600-700 WITH windows 7.. Do you guys see any problem with my build? Should i change my cpu to intel? What are your guys thoughts? What are you using it for? A $60 pentium with a $60 motherboard will perform better or equal to the x4 for just about every game. An i3-3220 with a $60 mobo is pretty nice for multithreaded, and will demolish the x4 in single threaded, for a similar cost. A 7850 is a massive step above the 650, but again it depends on games as to how much of a benefit you'll get. | ||
azngamer828
United States137 Posts
On February 15 2013 07:02 upperbound wrote: 1. The Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H is comparable to an Asus P8Z77-V LX, MSI G41-LGA, or an ASRock Pro4 in price and support. They're decent mobos, but lately the next step up, e.g. the Asus P8Z77-V LK or the ASRock Extreme4, have had solid sales and been about the same price after rebate (or occasionally a little lower). For overclocking, they're all solid mobos for the price -- I think you have to have a really good reason to spend more. If you're not going to overclock, just go for a B75 Mobo at the $75-$100 price point instead and save $25-50. 2. The GTX 660 (by some brand other than EVGA, which is still $199 but has a pretty loud blower fan) was just on sale for $199 after shipping somewhere -- my initial post meant to say $175-199; it was an error. The Gigabyte GTX 660 is still $209 AR on Newegg, which is fairly close. 3. Building your rig isn't that difficult. There are a few pitfalls along the way that are easily avoided. This video is pretty good, and the builder doesn't do anything that I would consider risky or shortcutting through the duration of the build; he does everything that you'd probably want to do with your computer. Aftermarket heatsink, SSD and HDD, discrete GPU, in an ATX mid tower case. Reasonable minds can differ on the way that he applies the thermal paste, but everything else is pretty standard. I didn't include part 1 because this forum can help pick parts, although feel free to watch part 3 if you want help installing Windows, going through UEFI BIOS, and other setup type stuff. im sorry to constantly bombard you with questions and i appreciate your help so thank you for it ^^ can you explain a little more in detail about the difference between the Kingston HyperX 2x2GB 1.5v, 1.65v, and the 1.7v? obviously to some people, they would assume getting the 1.65 or the 1.7 and another thing, do the colors even matter? lol i assume their all the same thing but i noticed that the reds are cheaper than the blacks and blues O.o and also, if the fan comes with a heatsink, do i have to get another heatsink? i would think not but asking wouldnt hurt haha | ||
Rachnar
France1526 Posts
color doesn't matter and didn't understand your last sentence | ||
upperbound
United States2300 Posts
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ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
Budget in the ~1k range (+/- 200). Lightweight is a big plus, prefer < 5lb. Refurbished might be ok. 1920x1080 strongly preferred, but I'd consider a 1600x900. Form factor: 13-15in I already have access to Win 7/8. (Though afaik all laptops come with OS) Battery life can be mediocre Needs to ship/sell to USA I've strongly considered the zenbook prime UX31a from acer (Note: no discrete GPU ...). The 32VD is a tad expensive unless I get it refurbished. Both are lightweight with nice keyboard, screen, and general build quality. I wondered if you guys knew of any deals/sites where they might be cheap. I'm also looking for laptop alternatives that people have enjoyed. I also have never purchased a laptop before, so if I'm missing anything big, let me know. Edit: Nothing urgent, I don't actually need this until summer. Should I wait for haswell ultrabooks? | ||
iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On February 16 2013 03:21 ObliviousNA wrote: Hey guys - I'm looking for a laptop/ultrabook sometime in the next few months. This will be mostly for mobile coding/dev work (and sc2 streaming ofc). It doesn't need to do gaming (I have my desktop for that!) but dedicated graphics are preferable. I'll be doing some CUDA GPGPU programming for my MS thesis, and I'd rather not have to remote-desktop into my home machine to deal with that. (For compatibility/cost I've considered opencl with Intel's HD4000, but that's for a different thread.) Budget in the ~1k range (+/- 200). Lightweight is a big plus, prefer < 5lb. Refurbished might be ok. 1920x1080 strongly preferred, but I'd consider a 1600x900. Form factor: 13-15in I already have access to Win 7/8. (Though afaik all laptops come with OS) Battery life can be mediocre Needs to ship/sell to USA I've strongly considered the zenbook prime UX31a from acer (Note: no discrete GPU ...). The 32VD is a tad expensive unless I get it refurbished. Both are lightweight with nice keyboard, screen, and general build quality. I wondered if you guys knew of any deals/sites where they might be cheap. I'm also looking for laptop alternatives that people have enjoyed. I also have never purchased a laptop before, so if I'm missing anything big, let me know. Edit: Nothing urgent, I don't actually need this until summer. Should I wait for haswell ultrabooks? If you can live with being an early adopter of a new brand, the Vizio Thin+Light CT15 is pretty loaded for its price, albeit only HD4000. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6543/vizio-thin-light-ct15-something-new-and-edgy Review and has link to where you can buy. | ||
Absurdly
Canada59 Posts
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
Final Build Intel i5-3570k w/ Hyper 212 EVO Asus P8Z77-v LK 2x4 GB Corsair Vengeance Samsung 840 250GB MSI Twin Frozr III Radeon HD 7950 (w/ 7950 PCB) Rosewill Capstone 450-M Cooler Master HAF-912 Final cost after MIR, tax, (free) shipping was $824, which seemed pretty reasonable after a couple of clutch newegg promo codes late in the game. Additional Cougar Vortex fans for top exhaust; front intake. Internal pics: ![]() ![]() Overclocked the CPU to 4.3ghz @1.235v, fully stable after a pair of 10 run IntelBurnTests @ Maximum and about 6 hours of Prime95. Not the greatest overclocker ever but not bad. I may mess around more with 4.4ghz to see if the chip dislikes odd multipliers, and LLC to see if I can get it more optimized while still stable. Temps under 10 Maximum IBT runs maxed out at 75C, temps after 6 hours of Prime95 maxed at 68C, so running reasonably cool, which is nice. Airflow in the case seems quite nice with the 2 extra fans. Windows 8 has also been a pleasurable experience so far. Will be trying to get some benches streaming SC2/LoL and playing Crysis 3 beta later tonight. Edit: doh, forgot to rotate images, lol. May fix later. | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
Ivy runs hot, but if you are only reaching 75c/68c under such loads i wouldnt really hesitate to push for a few hundred mhz more. Even reaching something like 90c under worst case, because a gaming+streaming load wont be anywhere close Its generally reccomended AFAIK (overclock.net asus board ivy bridge thread etc?) to use ultra high or high i think it was (75% or 50%) LLC setting, it might help you get better overclocking results. The CPU ive been playing with recently does 4.4ghz on 1.13v 75% llc - 50 runs max RAM IBT, 24 hour prime95 blend (though i forgot to custom blend to use >90% RAM and didnt max priority it.. i hear you are supposed to do both for absolute stability testing) so its quite a bit better than what you posted, but i think its quite far above average, and if you are stuck with the vcore+frequency you wrote, then yours is maybe slightly below, but still decent-ish In terms of streaming settings, encode-wise for a 3570k at ~4.3-4.5ghz you should be able to pull off about: 1920x1080@45fps@veryfast, 1600x900@60fps@veryfast, 1280x720@60fps@faster/fast but you might want to target a lower resolution and/or framerate if you dont have good upload speeds | ||
upperbound
United States2300 Posts
I have 3.84Mb/s up average on 3 speedtest runs so I don't think I'll be capped by my connection; I doubt I'll stream at 1080 but will be quite pleased with 720p@60@faster with high stability. EDIT: I pushed the LLC up to Ultra High from High and tested 4.4ghz. Stabilized at 1.265v with IBT/Prime95 temps of 82/76, respectively. 4.5ghz stabilized at 1.295v with temps of 88/83. I think I'm going to hang around at 4.4ghz for now and then downclock to my 4.3 settings in the summer. | ||
llIH
Norway2142 Posts
Printer that I want: - Wireless - Scanner - Laser - Color | ||
upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On February 16 2013 21:12 llIH wrote: Is it possible to ask for a printer recommendation? Please remove my comment if it is in the wrong section. Printer that I want: - Wireless - Scanner - Laser - Color You might get more hits if you make your own thread for this question, but if you do I'd suggest adding a little more information, like what you'll use it for (if you print pictures, that's a much different ballgame than printing high volume of documents), your budget, whether you need/care about print speed, etc. | ||
llIH
Norway2142 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:10 upperbound wrote: You might get more hits if you make your own thread for this question, but if you do I'd suggest adding a little more information, like what you'll use it for (if you print pictures, that's a much different ballgame than printing high volume of documents), your budget, whether you need/care about print speed, etc. Ok - Thanks. ![]() - Wireless - Scanner - Laser - Color - Speed is important - Not for printing pictures. Only for school work. Budget is not a big problem as long it isn't anything designy in it. | ||
HTOMario
United States439 Posts
System Core Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Pro CPU Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz Quad Core 6MB 77W Ram Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 (2x4GB) Video Card NVIDIA Geforce GTX 670 2GB Sound Card Onboard Sound Storage Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s Comments: Primary drive. CD / DVD Asus 24x DVD-RW SATA (black) Case / Cooling Case Lancool PC-K7B (Black) w/ USB 3.0 Power Supply Seasonic X-560 560W Power Supply CPU Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 CPU Cooler Software OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM SP1 Accessories Services Warranty: Lifetime Labor and Tech Support, 1 Year Parts Software / Preferences Software: Courtesy Install Microsoft Security Essentials (Antivirus) Subtotal: $1802.05 | ||
Ata
Canada356 Posts
On February 17 2013 03:58 HTOMario wrote: I was just wondering if this is a good price for the items below, I've tried to build my own pc however well.. I broke it and I don't even know how so I want to go just buy a pre made one. Is this decent? System Core Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Pro CPU Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz Quad Core 6MB 77W Ram Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 (2x4GB) Video Card NVIDIA Geforce GTX 670 2GB Sound Card Onboard Sound Storage Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s Comments: Primary drive. CD / DVD Asus 24x DVD-RW SATA (black) Case / Cooling Case Lancool PC-K7B (Black) w/ USB 3.0 Power Supply Seasonic X-560 560W Power Supply CPU Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 CPU Cooler Software OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM SP1 Accessories Services Warranty: Lifetime Labor and Tech Support, 1 Year Parts Software / Preferences Software: Courtesy Install Microsoft Security Essentials (Antivirus) Subtotal: $1802.05 Its really not good @ that price. I think NCIX canada does building for 50$, not sure about the US one. | ||
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