EPTAnswer the build questions in the OP, even if you don't intend to build yourself for whatever reason.
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Answer the build questions in the OP, even if you don't intend to build yourself for whatever reason. | ||
MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
That will be a powerful, relatively high-end gaming computer. It will also cost about $500 or so more than it should. But that's the cost of buying pre-made, so I suppose you already know that. | ||
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HTOMario
United States439 Posts
On February 17 2013 04:16 Myrmidon wrote: US site doesn't. Still, that price is pretty bad, and tghe choices don't particularly make much sense. Answer the build questions in the OP, even if you don't intend to build yourself for whatever reason. I just kind of qouted what this place told me I was looking for lol. I just wanted to stream at 720p I have 0 idea on what to get and have read through the op multiple times but I can't seem to grasp it. This is what the other place told me to kind of look for. Case: NZXT Phantom Gaming Case Power Supply: Xigmatek Tauro 600W Power Supply Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K Quad Core (3.4GHz, 6MB Cache, overclockable 4.4GHz+) Socket 1155 CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Achilles CPU Cooler Optimisation and Tuning: Wired2Fire Overclocking (non-stock cooler required) Graphics Card 1: nVidia GeForce GTX 670 2048MB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card Graphics Card 2: None Memory: 4GB Corsair DDR3 1600MHz C9 Dual Channel Memory Kit (2 x 2GB) Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX Intel Z77 Motherboard ( 1x PCIe 3.0, 2 way Crossfire) Hard Disk Drive One: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 7K1000.C 32MB Cache SATA II Hard Disk Drive Hard Disk Drive Two: None Optical Drive One: DVD-RW 22x Optical Drive Two: None Removable Storage: None Sound Card: Onboard HD 7.1 Audio Speakers and Headsets: None Monitor: None Keyboard: None Mouse: None Miscellaneous Adapters/Accesories: None Software: None Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) Build Options: Standard Build (5-15 working days) Warranty: 2 Year Return to Base Warranty | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
This: On July 21 2010 11:35 FragKrag wrote: + Show Spoiler [Want a list of parts/Build?] + Important questions you should ask yourself If you request a build, please answer these questions. We will spend as much effort on your build as you spend on your answers to these questions! I urge people to abstain from providing builds unless all the questions are answered. What is your budget? This should be an obvious one, you should determine a price range that best describes how much you want to spend on your build. It makes it easier for people to make recommendations. What is your resolution? This is extremely important especially for a gaming machine. I see people all the time asking for a video card recommendation and 5 people reply "5850" and the person hasn't even given their gaming resolution; it turns out the person games at 1280x1024 and could have ended up wasting $200 on a card that is total and complete overkill for his resolution. What are you using it for? Mostly gaming? Some gaming with video encoding mixed in? Photoshop? Streaming? All this matters, you can end up spending a lot of money and not be able to do anything you wanted to or you can spend a lot of money on stuff you don't even want to do. What is your upgrade cycle? Knowing the answer to this question makes it easier for people to recommend CPU sockets and GPUs so you get the most for your money. A person with a longer upgrade (2+ years) cycle will probably end up spending more initially but end up saving more at the expense of some performance. On the other hand a person with a shorter upgrade cycle (1 - 2 years) wants to spend less initially so they can put more money toward their next build. When do you plan on building it? Computer parts shift in prices often. With the release of new products, exist prices may drop further. Even without the release of new prices, changes in supply can affect the price of a specific part. The HD 5850 was supposed to retail at the $260 mark, but in a mere 4-5 months after its release it climbed to top $300 for basic reference models. Do you plan on overclocking? If you plan on overclocking, the motherboard choice and heatsink choice will be affected. Enthusiast overclocking requires enthusiast heatsinks and at least a stable motherboard. A simple budget Foxconn motherboard will not be adequate for your overclocking needs! Do you need an Operating System? An OS is around $100. It affects how much of your budget we can spend on the actual hardware. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? CrossFire and SLI are powerful solutions that allow higher performance, but in order to utilize them, we have to choose motherboards and PSUs that can support the increased demands that Crossfire and SLI place on your components. Where are you buying your parts from? If you have a nearby Fry's or Microcenter you can utilize their deals. If you're in Europe you obviously cannot use Newegg/Fry's/Microcenter so we need to know where you are from to put together a list of parts from a website or area you can actually buy from. If you can't answer these questions, make sure you can answer them before you ask us to help you put together a list of parts for you. Every single question affects the build we will put together for you greatly so make sure you can answer them accurately! You know, just as an exercise, I went through a similar config here to see normal non-sale prebuilt prices: http://www.avadirect.com/desktop-pc-configurator.asp?PRID=24471 -> change to Intel i5-3570k MSI Z77A-G45 Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Gigabyte Windforce GTX 670 (which was not the cheapest by a fair margin) G.Skill 2 x 4GB 1600 MHz Samsung 840 120GB Toshiba 1TB 7200rpm PC Power and Cooling Silencer MKIII 600W Bitfenix Shinobi DVD burner default Win7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM That's $1400 and includes an SSD, so $1800 for the first thing you posted is pretty severe, about $500 over another prebuilt with a 3-year warranty. edit: I didn't look carefully over all the lists above to scrounge around for best pricing, so I'm not recommending that you choose the exact parts above even if you were to use that site. | ||
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HTOMario
United States439 Posts
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Absurdly
Canada59 Posts
Corsair CX Series CX750 750W ATX 12V 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply Active PFC Fan 140mm Fan I asked some friends about it and they said it isn't worth it but haven't come up with anything better either. I'm looking for something around 600W for $70 or less. Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
CX750 is significantly better than the other CX series power supplies, so if that kind of power is needed, then $75 is a decent price. However, Corsair TX650 V2 is built better and is also at $75: http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=78776&promoid=1139 XFX Pro Core 650W is the same as the TX650 V2 internally, but it uses a quieter fan and comes with 4 PCIe power connectors natively for a multi-GPU setup, unlike the TX650 V2, which only has 2. It's $80 before $10 rebate, so probably worth the extra: http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=59616&promoid=1139 Somehow, Corsair CX750, GS, some TX, and some HX now all use some variant of CWT's PUQ design. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On February 17 2013 13:10 EtherealDeath wrote: Suppose I am looking for a mobo that will allow me to OC a 3570k to wherever it will go. Suppose further than I am running a single GPU, probably 660ti level. Suppose further that I was thinking about getting it from Asus or Gigabyte. Which motherboard would you get? Suppose I say suppose enough that I realize I answered my own question, suppose that. Any Z77, If you have to ask which board to max OC, you aren't going to achieve it no matter the board. Pick the one that has the features you desire and at a reasonable cost. | ||
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Absurdly
Canada59 Posts
On February 17 2013 11:56 Myrmidon wrote: Around 600W? What do you plan to get, Crossfire (2x) HD 7950s? CX750 is significantly better than the other CX series power supplies, so if that kind of power is needed, then $75 is a decent price. However, Corsair TX650 V2 is built better and is also at $75: http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=78776&promoid=1139 XFX Pro Core 650W is the same as the TX650 V2 internally, but it uses a quieter fan and comes with 4 PCIe power connectors natively for a multi-GPU setup, unlike the TX650 V2, which only has 2. It's $80 before $10 rebate, so probably worth the extra: http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=59616&promoid=1139 Somehow, Corsair CX750, GS, some TX, and some HX now all use some variant of CWT's PUQ design. Wow, I had no idea 600W would be able to power all that. No though, I'm not planning to crossfire anything, but was thinking more along the lines of one hd 7950. What kind of PSU would I be looking at with 1 hd 7950 and a similar quality CPU? | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On February 17 2013 13:10 EtherealDeath wrote: Suppose I am looking for a mobo that will allow me to OC a 3570k to wherever it will go. Suppose further than I am running a single GPU, probably 660ti level. Suppose further that I was thinking about getting it from Asus or Gigabyte. Which motherboard would you get? If you're going to break out the liquid nitrogen, maybe a Maximus V Gene, or higher? You might be able to get something slightly better there. Pretty much any reasonable 24/7 overclock should be possible on all but the lowest-end Z77 boards. If not, you'll be out maybe 100 MHz or so because of board quality. Is that a big deal to you? On February 17 2013 13:28 Absurdly wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 17 2013 11:56 Myrmidon wrote: Around 600W? What do you plan to get, Crossfire (2x) HD 7950s? CX750 is significantly better than the other CX series power supplies, so if that kind of power is needed, then $75 is a decent price. However, Corsair TX650 V2 is built better and is also at $75: http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=78776&promoid=1139 XFX Pro Core 650W is the same as the TX650 V2 internally, but it uses a quieter fan and comes with 4 PCIe power connectors natively for a multi-GPU setup, unlike the TX650 V2, which only has 2. It's $80 before $10 rebate, so probably worth the extra: http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=59616&promoid=1139 Somehow, Corsair CX750, GS, some TX, and some HX now all use some variant of CWT's PUQ design. Wow, I had no idea 600W would be able to power all that. No though, I'm not planning to crossfire anything, but was thinking more along the lines of one hd 7950. What kind of PSU would I be looking at with 1 hd 7950 and a similar quality CPU? What's similar quality to HD 7950? i5-3570k? i7-3770k? For those, 450W is enough unless you're doing monstrous overclocks, but if you want to replace the Neo Eco, then sure. I mean, you could just replace the fan, unless it's something other than the fan responsible for the noise. Then again, a heavier gaming load on a Neo Eco 450W would really ramp the fan up, because they start to go up hard after about half load. Looking at something new and staying under $70, I would say Corsair TX550-M for $65: http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=62824&promoid=1382 It's not quite as modern as CX750, but it is built better. I looked through canadacomputers, NCIX, even newegg.ca and didn't really find anything better that was cheaper, even at lower wattages. Capstone 450W (which is better) was $70 but a little more after shipping on newegg.ca, so that's also an option. | ||
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Absurdly
Canada59 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On February 17 2013 13:56 Myrmidon wrote: If you're going to break out the liquid nitrogen, maybe a Maximus V Gene, or higher? You might be able to get something slightly better there. Pretty much any reasonable 24/7 overclock should be possible on all but the lowest-end Z77 boards. If not, you'll be out maybe 100 MHz or so because of board quality. Is that a big deal to you? What's similar quality to HD 7950? i5-3570k? i7-3770k? For those, 450W is enough unless you're doing monstrous overclocks, but if you want to replace the Neo Eco, then sure. I mean, you could just replace the fan, unless it's something other than the fan responsible for the noise. Then again, a heavier gaming load on a Neo Eco 450W would really ramp the fan up, because they start to go up hard after about half load. Looking at something new and staying under $70, I would say Corsair TX550-M for $65: http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=62824&promoid=1382 It's not quite as modern as CX750, but it is built better. I looked through canadacomputers, NCIX, even newegg.ca and didn't really find anything better that was cheaper, even at lower wattages. Capstone 450W (which is better) was $70 but a little more after shipping on newegg.ca, so that's also an option. Nah, just wanted to confirm my belief that what I thought would be sufficient was sufficient. Thx yo~ | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
And if it doesn't, any idea for mounting 2 SSDs and a hard drive? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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alQahira
United States511 Posts
EDIT: Oops, was looking at an old version of the page and didn't see SkyR's response. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Coopfreak
United States59 Posts
I have a diverse list of requirements for this build but I hope you guys can help me (if anyone can it's you guys). Budget: $1500–$2000 (willing—but if I don't need to, great!) Resolution: I currently have a 16:10 ratio monitor at 1680:1050, but I'll be switching to a 24inch 16  monitor and setting it to be as close to that as possible taking into account the ratio difference (1080?). Is this low? Another important note is that I need to run at least 2 monitors off this machine (and with an option to add a third in the future).Use: Build usage – SC2, video editing/encoding photoshop etc, streaming (I'm a media professional so this puppy needs to hum) Upgrade cycle: I'll probably slowly upgrade parts 1 or 2 at a time ongoing every year When: now! Overclocking: Not a priority, but you never know when the urge to dabble may hit. OS: I gotta buy 7 or 8. Advice? SLI or Crossfire: Not planning on it. This will be a Newegg / Fry's build | ||
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