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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 10 2012 11:01 Alryk wrote: Hmm. I was trying to keep 12GB or so free on the 60gb available, does that really matter? Or how much free space should I leave? Its a crucial m4 fwiw. Probably not worth worrying about, especially on client desktop workloads. Ideally you have some spare area, but it's not worth the (small amount of) brainpower to think about these things, inconvenience of not using the space you want. I wouldn't recommend filling up close to all the way, but it's not going to explode if you do that. There's some ~6% spare area over the user-addressable space—not a lot, but there in addition to whatever you're not using. | ||
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Morpheus.EU
Netherlands26 Posts
 ) So should be lightweight but sturdy. We'll take care of it (wrap it in, transfer in box or things like that) but it should be able to take a hit. Budget: 600 euro max (cheaper = better) Goal: Playing LoL, internet (fast), able to play pretty much every current game on 60fps (don't mind going to lowest, but'd like 60 fps minimum. Will be buying in a week or less, once I'm completely satisfied with the build. I've selected this so far:http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelmandje/?legen=1&product%5B527460%5D=1&product%5B501009%5D=1&product%5B557195%5D=1&product%5B425856%5D=1&product%5B441431%5D=1&product%5B476182%5D=1&product%5B537999%5D=1&product%5B427829%5D=1&product%5B394013%5D=1 I'm not sure about the case, it's either the prodigy or the Lian Li PC-Q07. Which is better for my purposes, and are there any other mistakes in the build? ty | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Given the price limitation, I would consider using the Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced instead. You can get slightly cheaper RAM (can't even run it past 1333 MHz on that system anyway), but that doesn't save much. You probably need more than a HD 6670 DDR3 to run certain games at 60 fps, even on low settings. Take the savings elsewhere and get this HD 7770. | ||
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Adalaina
Canada5 Posts
ASUS P8H77-V Motherboard & Driver Disc - 136.99 ASUS HD 7750 Graphics Card & Driver Disc - 109.99 Seasonic M12II Power Supply & Cables - 79.99 Intel i3-2100 3.1GHZ Sandy Bridge CPU - 119.99 G.SKILL Ripsaw Series 4GB DDR3 Memory - 23.99 LG DVD SuperMulti Writer - 19.99 Crucial M4 64GB SSD - 69.99 *Edit* Max budget is $800(CA), not sure if those specs are good or not, I just want something to run WoW and SC2 on. If this build is no good, any suggestions to a build that is within my budget would be appreciated. Those prices are from newegg, I would prefer to order from there or ncix.ca Thank you <3 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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iGoTThiZ
103 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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iGoTThiZ
103 Posts
On November 11 2012 13:49 skyR wrote: For gaming, a core i5 without question... You dont think the 8 core would be useful for future games? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 11 2012 13:58 iGoTThiZ wrote: You dont think the 8 core would be useful for future games? How far in the future? Even if it is better many years later, it's going to be significantly worse for now. And by that point, you'd want something new anyway. | ||
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Chaomantic
20 Posts
Due to recent difficulties I’ve encountered with my computer I may have to replace the motherboard (MSI H67MA-E45). To cut the long story short, I need your advice on what to buy for an i5-2500 CPU with DDR3-1333 MHz RAM. Back when I bought the one I have now, there were only H67s and P67s with Z67 just looming over the horizon. Now there’re so many more of them and I really don’t feel like going over all that abundance. I was fairly happy with how my current mobo worked for me until very recently so one of the obvious solutions would be to buy the same stuff and move on but it seems that H67s went out of fashion or something and my local shops no longer offer them somehow. Then there is the issue of some new hardware acting up. More on that in a jiffy. Now, it is obvious I’m not planning on overclocking. I do play games and have a GTX460 to go with my rig. All the four RAM sockets of my current mobo are populated so it would be nice, albeit not mandatory, to have as many of them on whatever I buy next. Another thing of note as well as the root of all the evil that has befallen me oh so very recently is an SSD. It’s a 120Gb Corsair Neutron. I believe this part deserves a bit of elaboration so bear with me. I knew from the start that Corsair SSDs had a reputation for causing their owners a good deal of suffering but much of that came from the Force Series, or whatever the hell they are called, so I opted for the Neutron hoping that with a different controller and past experience the company would have finally resolved most of the issues. Alas the dang thing does freeze pretty much like its SandForce counterparts if not indeed worse so. The usual suggestion you hear on related forums goes along the lines of checking if you have the latest BIOS and drivers which I did only to find out that my BIOS was in fact very much outdated. Happy to find an apparent solution and hopeful of the relief it would bring I scanned my system with the MSI Live Update 5 utility and downloaded what it suggested as the newest, bestest BIOS for my mobo. Double clicking the executable I got from the trusty manufacturer I thought to myself: “Well, this is pretty straightforward. Wonder what all the fuss is about.” As you may gather I found out what it’s all about rather promptly. Two minutes later the system went for a reboot but instead of the happy chirping so lovely to the ear of a hardcore computer addict the mobo moaned out something disturbing and Windows failed to start spelling doom to what was otherwise looking very much like a darn good Sunday. Upon getting into BIOS I found out that my CPU was soaring 20 degrees above its normal temperature and climbing and one of the fans has apparently failed. Distressed, I turned the system off and went for a beer and a friend who, unlike me, is not legally retarded when it comes to computers. A few hours later we downloaded the BIOS I had before onto a memory stick and went for reflashing. After a bit of fiddling around the thing worked like a charm. I mean everything was just fine. Even Windows for a change. It probably didn’t resolve the freezing issue but I didn’t have time to find that out as, bolstered by our success, we decided to flash the BIOS with another newest, bestest version of it that suspiciously said it was designed for Ivy Bridge rather than the Sandy one though my friend assured me it would work okay. Only it didn’t. This time the computer managed only to power on and just hung there for and excruciatingly long period of time without a single peep or blip until it was fairly obvious that something went terribly awry. With no other apparent option we reached for reset. The system powered on for about ten seconds and then turned off of its own accord only to start again to the same effect. Again, no sound or image output was present. Pissed and confused we proceeded to strip the system down to its bear minimum which helped none at all. We also removed and replaced the battery and did the thing with the CMOS clearing jumper to no avail. Finally we took out the CPU itself and put it back in a minute or two later. This time the system started and stayed on without switching back and forth as before but otherwise it remained completely dead. Baffled my friend went home to look for solutions and I arranged for my PC to be taken to a repair shop conveniently located across the street. I hope they can fix it but my friend says there is a chance that they won’t so I’m considering my options here. Since I very much enjoyed the performance boost my new SSD brought to my system I intend to stick with it, Corsair or not. So it is imperative that the mobos you’d suggest should have SATA 3. It would also be nice if you could propose a board or two that are known to have fewer issues working with SSDs, particularly those manufactured by Corsair, if this is possible. As far as other features are concerned I’m fairly open. I haven’t found any particular use for my USB 3.0 ports though having them makes me feel better about myself somehow. Guess it’s an e-penis thing. Plus, they’ll probably be there anyway what with SATA 3 and stuff. Regarding budget I’d prefer the cheaper option over the pricier one any day of the week, which is why I fell for that Corsair trap in the first place as you might have guessed. I will not go as far as to suggest a price range as it would be reasonably futile considering that I live out in the boonies on the outskirts of Eastern Europe so just keep it down to a minimum meeting the above mentioned requirements. No need for fancy stuff like SLI. 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Tosster
Poland299 Posts
What is your budget? 350$ What is your resolution? 1366x768 What are you using it for? SC2 on lowest, watching streams, hmm probably minecraft, office things, surfing, watching videos. When do you plan on building it? As soon as we will know which build is decent. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Local internet stores (Poland), but its really about which parts are good, i will find them here on my own. I do not need DVD/Burner. You guys helped me out last time, i will be grateful if someone can help me now too! | ||
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kxr1der
United States213 Posts
This Christmas im thinking about getting a new desktop. The problem is I haven't gotten a new computer in about 3 years so I have no idea what good specs are on hardware. Im looking for a mid level desktop that has the potential to be upgraded in the future. Basically im looking to spend from 600- 850ish now but be able to put more into it as games get more advanced. Right now i play mainly SC2 league of legends and dota 2 so anything that can pay those out of the box is great. Any suggestions for systems you guys might have would be great thanks, I dont have the time or the ability to build my own btw so im looking for premades only. | ||
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Mbf
United States10 Posts
On November 13 2012 09:59 kxr1der wrote: Hey guys, This Christmas im thinking about getting a new desktop. The problem is I haven't gotten a new computer in about 3 years so I have no idea what good specs are on hardware. Im looking for a mid level desktop that has the potential to be upgraded in the future. Basically im looking to spend from 600- 850ish now but be able to put more into it as games get more advanced. Right now i play mainly SC2 league of legends and dota 2 so anything that can pay those out of the box is great. Any suggestions for systems you guys might have would be great thanks, I dont have the time or the ability to build my own btw so im looking for premades only. To be completely honest, a computer is actually very simple to build. I advise you not to rule out building a computer because it greatly affects your overall cost in the end (price for performance building a computer is almost always better). Since your budget is around 600-850ish the difference between a premade computer (One that runs the games that you specified) will very likely cost more than a computer that was built from scratch. Here is a build that will run your games at max with smooth fps at around $720~ (This is just a basic build you can skimp and spend more on some parts depending on what you want) Case + Show Spoiler + BitFenix Merc Alpha $34.99 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1230 Power Supply + Show Spoiler + Corsair CX400w $40.98 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=33357&vpn=CMPSU-400CX&manufacture=Corsair Processor + Show Spoiler + Intel i5 3450 $194.15 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70543&vpn=BX80637I53450&manufacture=Intel Motherboard + Show Spoiler + RAM + Show Spoiler + Crucial Ballistix 8gb RAM $36.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543 Graphics Card + Show Spoiler + HIS Radeon 7850 $174.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161426 Hard Drive (Storage) + Show Spoiler + Western Digital Caviar 500gb $55.99 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&vpn=WD5000AAKX&manufacture=Western Digital WD&promoid=1387 CD Drive + Show Spoiler + LiteOn DVD Drive $16.98 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&vpn=IHAS124-04&manufacture=Liteon Plus the OS - + Show Spoiler + Windows 7 Home Premium $79.99 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1368 Many who are more familiar and experienced with price/for performance feel free to edit provide more suggestions! One more thing, you mentioned you don't have time to build a computer, but you have time to play on it ! Building can take from 2-12 hours or even a whole day to build (depending on how much breaks you take), I'm sure you can incorporate a day off or something to build it. To get yourself somewhat acquainted with how a computer is built I suggest you watch this video + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On November 13 2012 09:59 kxr1der wrote: Hey guys, This Christmas im thinking about getting a new desktop. The problem is I haven't gotten a new computer in about 3 years so I have no idea what good specs are on hardware. Im looking for a mid level desktop that has the potential to be upgraded in the future. Basically im looking to spend from 600- 850ish now but be able to put more into it as games get more advanced. Right now i play mainly SC2 league of legends and dota 2 so anything that can pay those out of the box is great. Any suggestions for systems you guys might have would be great thanks, I dont have the time or the ability to build my own btw so im looking for premades only. Fwiw, I hadn't looked at the inside of a computer for a loooooong time and just built mine in about 2 hours (where most of the time was spent searching for where to put my HDD/SSD and looking for a power cord haha). It's pretty simple. | ||
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kxr1der
United States213 Posts
On November 13 2012 14:30 Alryk wrote: Fwiw, I hadn't looked at the inside of a computer for a loooooong time and just built mine in about 2 hours (where most of the time was spent searching for where to put my HDD/SSD and looking for a power cord haha). It's pretty simple. I'm going to take a look through the video posted above and consider building my own but if I could also have some prebuilt systems to compare to that would be great. Thanks for all the help you guys have already given. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 13 2012 03:46 Tosster wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hi guys, my brother needs a second computer, and he is kinda low on funds, so please, help me get the max out of this (if its even possible to get "something" out of this budget): What is your budget? 350$ What is your resolution? 1366x768 What are you using it for? SC2 on lowest, watching streams, hmm probably minecraft, office things, surfing, watching videos. When do you plan on building it? As soon as we will know which build is decent. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Local internet stores (Poland), but its really about which parts are good, i will find them here on my own. I do not need DVD/Burner. You guys helped me out last time, i will be grateful if someone can help me now too! 350 USD -> 1150 zloty? Are you expecting how much that could be bought in USD in US market, how much can be bought in Poland with the equivalent, or what? I'm confused on the pricing. If possible, you would want something like a socket 1155 motherboard, socket 1155 dual core (Core i3 too expensive, so a Pentium or Celeron), and hopefully a graphics card like a HD 6570 fits in budget. If you get Pentium G2120, you can probably skip the graphics card. You also need DDR3 RAM, a hard drive (ideally 7200 rpm, hopefully a relatively recent model), and a power supply (also a case). For the power supply, check back here. Hopefully you could find Antec VP350P for really cheap. On November 14 2012 01:08 kxr1der wrote: I'm going to take a look through the video posted above and consider building my own but if I could also have some prebuilt systems to compare to that would be great. Thanks for all the help you guys have already given. http://www.avadirect.com/desktop-pc-configurator.asp?PRID=24473 AVA configurator: Case -> Zalman Z9 (cheapest okay thing) Power supply -> XFX Proseries 550W (cheapest okay thing) Motherboard -> MSI H77MA-G43 CPU -> Intel Core i3-3220 RAM -> Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600 MHz GPU -> EVGA GTX 650 Ti HDD -> Western Digital 500GB Caviar Blue Total: $628.04 (add $80-100 more or so for OS) Compared to above, i3-3220 is worse but most games won't care. You can shave about $70 off the build listed by Mbf by just getting an i3 instead like here. There are a couple other places for small savings too. GTX 650 Ti is worse than HD 7850 1GB. If you want to go higher than GTX 650 Ti, the prices are ridiculous through AVADirect configurator. So getting the box is maybe $100 or so worse, and you don't get individual warranties on parts. If you wanted a better graphics card, the price differential would grow by a lot. Note that prices may shift a lot; if you're buying closer to Christmas I would recommend checking back here. | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
My current build: SSD: Intel SSDSC2CT120A3K5 HDD: 1 WD Caviar Black 2TB--------5 WD Caviar Green 2TB RAM: 2 8GB G.Skill DDR3-1333 (can be changed depending on MB and CPU) GPU: 2 GTX 670 2GB PSU: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V CD Drive: Pioneer BDR-206DBKS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II ATX Full Tower Case Could someone give me some help on a MB (or whatever is better), and CPU that would go with it, that will support the amount of SATA ports I need? Money is not really an issue, but I would like to not have to spend more than $3k. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On November 14 2012 14:56 Ercster wrote: I'm going to be building my first PC in a few months, but I'm having trouble finding a motherboard (or whatever will work) to support the amount of SATA 6gb ports I need. I'm going to be doing gaming, 3D mechanical modeling, and mass media storage (I have a lot of movies :D). My current build: SSD: Intel SSDSC2CT120A3K5 HHD: 1 WD Caviar Black 2TB--------4 WB Caviar Green 2TB RAM: 2 8GB G.Skill DDR3-1333 (can be changed depending on MB and CPU) GPU: 2 GTX 670 2GB PSU: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V CD Drive: Pioneer BDR-206DBKS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II ATX Full Tower Case Could someone give me some help on a MB (or whatever is better), and CPU that would go with it, that will support the amount of SATA 6gb ports I need? You only need SATA 6gbps for an SSD iirc, hard drives don't even max SATA 3gbps. If you're building in a few months, come back in a few months. Prices and components change. But to answer your question, we'd need your budget. Seems like you don't really have one, so you'd probably be looking at a LGA 1155 Z77 motherboard and an i5-3570K. I don't know that an i7 would benefit modeling and stuff, somebody else would have to answer that definitively, but I assume it doesn't. If it did though, then you'd get an i7-3770k. Essentially, as far as CPU goes, Intel is almost always on top. So you'll generally just be shopping for Intel. | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
On November 14 2012 15:00 Alryk wrote: You only need SATA 6gbps for an SSD iirc, hard drives don't even max SATA 3gbps. If you're building in a few months, come back in a few months. Prices and components change. But to answer your question, we'd need your budget. Seems like you don't really have one, so you'd probably be looking at a LGA 1155 Z77 motherboard and an i5-3570K. I don't know that an i7 would benefit modeling and stuff, somebody else would have to answer that definitively, but I assume it doesn't. If it did though, then you'd get an i7-3770k. Essentially, as far as CPU goes, Intel is almost always on top. So you'll generally just be shopping for Intel. Yea, I was just looking up stuff about the 6gb/s and have edited my OP to reflect that. Thanks. | ||
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