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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
phoque
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden39 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 14:12:59
November 05 2012 13:57 GMT
#25401
Hey guys, I will be buying new parts for my computer and I am hoping to get a few tips. I plan on using my old Antec case (Sonata III) since it has a strong power supply with 500W and will fit an ATX card which I plan on getting.

What is your budget?

I will be buying a monitor, CPU, GPU, RAM, SATA and a motherboard I and want it to be below 900$.

What is your resolution?

I will be getting a 1920x1080 monitor.

What are you using it for?

Gaming, games such as SC2, DotA 2, NS2 and SF4. I am not too obsessed with high graphics but I really want to run on a high frame rate.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I do not upgrade very often, I've had this computer since 2008 and feel it is time for an upgrade. I wish this build will work for atleast 4 years.

When do you plan on building it?

I will order parts this week and will build as soon as my parts arrive.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No not right now but maybe a few years in the future.

Do you need an Operating System?

I will be using Windows 7 Ultimate, but I do not need to purchase a new one.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

A swedish company called Inet which I think is great, good prices and good parts. (I've compared with other swedish companies)

+ Show Spoiler +


Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G43 ATX - 133$

CPU: Intel Core i5 3450 3,1Ghz (Ivy Bridge) - 236$

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 1024MB - 150$

RAM: Corsair 8GB (2x4096MB) CL9 1600Mhz VENGEANCE (runs on 1.5V) - 57$

SATA: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm SATA 6Gbit/s - 98$

Monitor: BenQ 22'' GW2250HM VA LED (4ms response, 60hz) - 193$

Total: 867$



What do you guys think, any feedback?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 05 2012 15:15 GMT
#25402
You can't overclock (the CPU) more than about 400MHz on that setup, due to imposed limitations. It would be recommended to do that right away, which would help for SC2 a bit.

An alternative, which would help for future games and if you decide to move up to slightly higher graphics settings, would be to downgrade to a cheaper motherboard like AsRock B75M-DGS and upgrade to a GTX 650 Ti:
http://www.inet.se/produkt/1902251/asrock-b75m-dgs-matx
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5409701/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-650ti-1024mb

Looks reasonable to me though, but I did not check the other prices.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
November 05 2012 16:22 GMT
#25403
Hey guys: I need to buy a new mobo/CPU. I'm looking at this setup right now:
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k) | $169.99 @ Microcenter
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz77xud3h) | $147.86 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmx8gx3m2b1600c9) | $37.99 @ Newegg
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $355.84


Any thoughts? I need it to stay under 400 dollars. I have an msi gtx 560 ti twin frozr II, plenty of HD space, a 750 watt silencer pc power and cooling and an antec 900 case.

I can pick this stuff up today for 375 or so.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 06 2012 01:04 GMT
#25404
Why not buy the motherboard at Microcenter too since they have the -$50 motherboard promotion if you purchase a CPU as well.

The memory isn't that great of a choice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

are both better for $2 more.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 06 2012 03:53 GMT
#25405
i don't know if this is a good place to post for this but i've always found this thread the most reliable.

my friend is looking to order a prebuilt gaming laptop for 6-700$ that runs any of the newer games well enough to not lag. can anyone help me out?
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
November 06 2012 05:27 GMT
#25406
On November 06 2012 12:53 Grampz wrote:
i don't know if this is a good place to post for this but i've always found this thread the most reliable.

my friend is looking to order a prebuilt gaming laptop for 6-700$ that runs any of the newer games well enough to not lag. can anyone help me out?


Uhhh, you might be able to get one that can run games on low settings for that much. I hope he's not expecting great graphics on a laptop for only 700.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
November 06 2012 06:05 GMT
#25407
This is really the best thing I can think of with gaming power @ 700$, but that's without an OS... you might be able to get an HP or an on sale last gen Lenovo of some kind.

Lenovo Y570 last gen lenovo gaming pc for 650$, that's probably your best bet.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
zokker13
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany77 Posts
November 06 2012 19:08 GMT
#25408
Hi there,

I currently think about upgrading my Computer.
Started my apprentince ship and earned my first wages.

However, I'm quiet unsure about the specific hardware. The market seems to be overloaded with great stuff.
I'll tell you what I want:

- Playing SC2 in Extreme mode with 8 players++
- Playing SC2 1v1 and stream with at least 720p
- Be able to play Marine Arena


Hardware I currently run with:

- CPU: AMD Athlon II x4, 3GHz
- RAM: 4x Kingston 2GB, 1,3 GHz
- Graphics Card: XFX HD 6870
- MoBo: GA870A-USB3


I thought about changing my MoBo and CPU.
My Graphics card is fine, I can play BF3 and that's enough.
RAM seems top go to it's edge but I don't wanna get new ones yet.

CPU I'm looking at is an Intel i5 3570K (Ivy). (~200€)
I'm unsure about streaming and playing. But I also don't want to invest 300+ bucks.

I actually don't know how Motherboards change performance.
The Z77 chipset seems to be solid, so I looked at it.
I decided for an Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H (~100€).


That's what I'd like to upgrade to.


Would be kind if someone could tell me is this is good or not.
I'm not sure about the motherboard, 4xUSB3 is great but only 2xSATA3.
Is the difference between SATA3 and SATA2 significant (running a 7200 rpm HDD)?

Thanks in advance.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 06 2012 19:36 GMT
#25409
That's fine, makes sense. Get a reasonable heatsink (some tower cooler with 120mm fan so long as the height is not too much for your chassis, should be no more than 30 euros) so you can overclock.

There's no difference in SATA3 and SATA2 for running mechanical hard drives. Their transfer speeds are all slower than SATA2 by a good margin, so SATA3 does not really contribute much.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
November 07 2012 00:38 GMT
#25410
bought the pc today! decided not to even wait for black friday sales. heres what i went with:

i5-3570k
ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 Motherboard
Samsung 830 series 128 GB SSD
Thermaltake Tough Power 575W-M [to allow room for eventual crossfire]
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB [3 free games (FarCry 3, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs & %20 discount off of medal of honor $169.99 value]
Cooler Master v8 Heatsink
Cooler Master HAF 912
Team Elite 8GB RAM
LG DVD Burner

initially I placed half of the order on amazon, and half of the order on newegg. In the amazon order i had a refurbished Dell U2312HM. I was uneasy about making this purchase because of the refurb so i eventually canceled the order. Then a few hours later I realized Newegg doesn't have a sales tax for where i'm at so I canceled the entire amazon order and just went with Newegg and saved about $30.

Has anyone or would anyone purchase a refurbished monitor? it was $100 off the original price, $60 cheaper than Newegg. I think the monitor is the only piece of my build that I will hold off until black friday/cyber monday

I also made a trip to microcenter this morning to pick up the cpu, motherboard & heatsink. I finally got a chance to see the haf 912 which i was originally skeptical about when you guys first advised me to buy it. But the case looks amazing lol, i'm so excited and i can't wait to finally get it. looking at pictures of the case really doesn't do justice. I was expecting a low end case like my last $30 xigmatek. The case is extremely solid & it's huge. thanks for the advice here. :D

was going to go with a simple Hyper 212 but i just decided to go with the v8 purely on looks. it looks like a mini car engine running in your pc lol. its sick .

total cost of the pc alone came to $971 not including the RAM i already own.

just want to tell those who help people like me, skyr, myrmidion and many others, i seriously appreciate all the help! :D

also happy birthday to myrmidion, have a good one brother

iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 00:54:31
November 07 2012 00:51 GMT
#25411
On November 07 2012 09:38 aBstractx wrote:
bought the pc today! decided not to even wait for black friday sales. heres what i went with:

i5-3570k
ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 Motherboard
Samsung 830 series 128 GB SSD
Thermaltake Tough Power 575W-M [to allow room for eventual crossfire]
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB [3 free games (FarCry 3, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs & %20 discount off of medal of honor $169.99 value]
Cooler Master v8 Heatsink
Cooler Master HAF 912
Team Elite 8GB RAM
LG DVD Burner

initially I placed half of the order on amazon, and half of the order on newegg. In the amazon order i had a refurbished Dell U2312HM. I was uneasy about making this purchase because of the refurb so i eventually canceled the order. Then a few hours later I realized Newegg doesn't have a sales tax for where i'm at so I canceled the entire amazon order and just went with Newegg and saved about $30.

Has anyone or would anyone purchase a refurbished monitor? it was $100 off the original price, $60 cheaper than Newegg. I think the monitor is the only piece of my build that I will hold off until black friday/cyber monday

I also made a trip to microcenter this morning to pick up the cpu, motherboard & heatsink. I finally got a chance to see the haf 912 which i was originally skeptical about when you guys first advised me to buy it. But the case looks amazing lol, i'm so excited and i can't wait to finally get it. looking at pictures of the case really doesn't do justice. I was expecting a low end case like my last $30 xigmatek. The case is extremely solid & it's huge. thanks for the advice here. :D

was going to go with a simple Hyper 212 but i just decided to go with the v8 purely on looks. it looks like a mini car engine running in your pc lol. its sick .

total cost of the pc alone came to $971 not including the RAM i already own.

just want to tell those who help people like me, skyr, myrmidion and many others, i seriously appreciate all the help! :D

also happy birthday to myrmidion, have a good one brother


575w isn't enough for CF 7950's and an overclocked CPU, well it might be but you'll be cutting it very close.

Some detective work on anand's GPU bench gives me that a 7970 draws about 40w more than a 7950 under load(whole computer) AT REFERENCE Frequency. CF 7970's draw ~640w underload, so 640-80=560. 560w under load for cf 7950's at reference freqency. Yeah you aren't going CF with that 575w unit, unless you like stock clocks.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=508
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=588
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
November 07 2012 01:00 GMT
#25412
On November 07 2012 09:51 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 09:38 aBstractx wrote:
bought the pc today! decided not to even wait for black friday sales. heres what i went with:

i5-3570k
ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 Motherboard
Samsung 830 series 128 GB SSD
Thermaltake Tough Power 575W-M [to allow room for eventual crossfire]
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB [3 free games (FarCry 3, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs & %20 discount off of medal of honor $169.99 value]
Cooler Master v8 Heatsink
Cooler Master HAF 912
Team Elite 8GB RAM
LG DVD Burner

initially I placed half of the order on amazon, and half of the order on newegg. In the amazon order i had a refurbished Dell U2312HM. I was uneasy about making this purchase because of the refurb so i eventually canceled the order. Then a few hours later I realized Newegg doesn't have a sales tax for where i'm at so I canceled the entire amazon order and just went with Newegg and saved about $30.

Has anyone or would anyone purchase a refurbished monitor? it was $100 off the original price, $60 cheaper than Newegg. I think the monitor is the only piece of my build that I will hold off until black friday/cyber monday

I also made a trip to microcenter this morning to pick up the cpu, motherboard & heatsink. I finally got a chance to see the haf 912 which i was originally skeptical about when you guys first advised me to buy it. But the case looks amazing lol, i'm so excited and i can't wait to finally get it. looking at pictures of the case really doesn't do justice. I was expecting a low end case like my last $30 xigmatek. The case is extremely solid & it's huge. thanks for the advice here. :D

was going to go with a simple Hyper 212 but i just decided to go with the v8 purely on looks. it looks like a mini car engine running in your pc lol. its sick .

total cost of the pc alone came to $971 not including the RAM i already own.

just want to tell those who help people like me, skyr, myrmidion and many others, i seriously appreciate all the help! :D

also happy birthday to myrmidion, have a good one brother


575w isn't enough for CF 7950's and an overclocked CPU, well it might be but you'll be cutting it very close.

Some detective work on anand's GPU bench gives me that a 7970 draws about 40w more than a 7950 under load(whole computer) AT REFERENCE Frequency. CF 7970's draw ~640w underload, so 640-80=560. 560w under load for cf 7950's at reference freqency. Yeah you aren't going CF with that 575w unit, unless you like stock clocks.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=508
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=588



yeah clocks will remain stock most likely. i was aware of it being close, someone set me up with it a few pages back. i might not even overclock the cpu that much either. depends on how much is necessary for my streaming needs. appreciate the concern :D i also may not even get a second gpu, just something im contemplating
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 01:02:34
November 07 2012 01:01 GMT
#25413
Why do detective work? (Guessing AnandTech CPU power draw, power supply losses, other config...just isn't worth the trouble.)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7950_CrossFire/22.html

btw, do people overclock Crossfire graphics cards a lot on air cooling? I certainly wouldn't imagine trying to increase the voltage by any significant amount. Overclocked i5-3570k power draw would still be well under 100W at sane settings.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 07 2012 01:11 GMT
#25414
One case Delta fan is enough to cool a quad GPU sandwich with everyone of them overclocked and the GPU fans might as well be off.
twitch.tv/medrea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 07 2012 01:17 GMT
#25415
I should have added a "without the aid of howling banshees 4000+ rpm 120mm fans or equivalents" clause at the end, huh.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 07 2012 01:26 GMT
#25416
Hahahaha.

Anyway. I'd imagine most Crossfire setups are with reference models so yeah you can go pretty far with just air.
twitch.tv/medrea
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
November 07 2012 02:44 GMT
#25417
Hey guys! I am planning to build a computer for my brother but we can't really wait till black friday deals since that's the week we are going to meet and build the pc. Thanks in advance!

What is your budget?

About $700

What is your resolution?

1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?

4-5 years

When do you plan on building it?

The week of thanksgiving

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
November 07 2012 08:08 GMT
#25418
Will the Raystorm RX240 fit inside the Antec p280? :D
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 08:38:53
November 07 2012 08:37 GMT
#25419
On November 07 2012 11:44 spybreak wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Hey guys! I am planning to build a computer for my brother but we can't really wait till black friday deals since that's the week we are going to meet and build the pc. Thanks in advance!

What is your budget?

About $700

What is your resolution?

1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?

4-5 years

When do you plan on building it?

The week of thanksgiving

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No

Assuming Newegg.


i3-3220 & ASRock Z77M $206.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1098643

Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 $33.99 with promo code EMCJJND35, ends 11/12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186

Sapphire HD 7850 1GB $174.99 ($15 Mail in rebate) Free Farcry 3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

Hitachi 1TB 7200rpm HDD $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145533

Silverstone PS08B mATX $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163223
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=352&area=en (newegg doesn't have a picture of it yet)

Rosewill Capstone 450 80+ Gold $59.99
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

DVD Burner $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Total: $702.91 ($15 Mail in rebate)
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 08:58:00
November 07 2012 08:53 GMT
#25420
What is your budget?
~700-800

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Primarily streaming 480p, SC2 on Medium to High settings with high framerate.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes, Windows 7.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Fry's mainly.
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