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On October 09 2012 05:22 Sein wrote:
Since you guys pretty much convinced me to get the 7950, which card is the best 7950 if my budget is between 270-320?
There's not a lot that differentiates one graphics card of the same type from another. Mostly it comes down to the cooler the manufacturer slaps on it & whether or not it is factory overclocked. And if you're going to overclock the GPU yourself, the second part doesn't matter.
The first caution is don't get XFX. Their coolers are terrible this time around and their support is bad too.
'Good' coolers (relatively quiet fans) include Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, several others not coming to mind. Basically anything with 2 or 3 relatively large fans on top of it that's not XFX. After that I just say get the cheapest.
If you're not going to overclock yourself, then a factory overclock may (or still, maybe not) be worth the extra $10 or so.
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I personally think Sapphire OC is the best 7950 (best noise level and most sturdy heatsink design), but also one of the more expensive. Dunno if Asus fixed their coolers by now, but their 79xx didn't touch the heatsink properly.
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On October 09 2012 06:07 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 05:22 Sein wrote:
Since you guys pretty much convinced me to get the 7950, which card is the best 7950 if my budget is between 270-320? There's not a lot that differentiates one graphics card of the same type from another. Mostly it comes down to the cooler the manufacturer slaps on it & whether or not it is factory overclocked. And if you're going to overclock the GPU yourself, the second part doesn't matter. The first caution is don't get XFX. Their coolers are terrible this time around and their support is bad too. 'Good' coolers (relatively quiet fans) include Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, several others not coming to mind. Basically anything with 2 or 3 relatively large fans on top of it that's not XFX. After that I just say get the cheapest. If you're not going to overclock yourself, then a factory overclock may (or still, maybe not) be worth the extra $10 or so.
What do you think about HIS IceQ 2GB (Non-turbo)? It looks like it can keep the temperature down very well, but I don't know where it stands in terms of actual performance.
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On October 09 2012 06:15 Shauni wrote:
I personally think Sapphire OC is the best 7950 (best noise level and most sturdy heatsink design), but also one of the more expensive. Dunno if Asus fixed their coolers by now, but their 79xx didn't touch the heatsink properly.
I can vouch for this. Got it a few weeks back, works like a charm. It's quite a hefty factory OC, and runs coolly. The dual fans are nice.
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Please PM with any additional recommendations to this system (besides 2x more of those 680s  ). What do i need to run RAID 0 besides the SSD and cable? Also, should I have spend 200$ on a 24kt gold Monster HDMI Cable? I really want this to be a showstopper.
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Quick question 'bout my gtx 590
Load temps are normal from what i see, 85/80°C (seen benchmarks and this is as it should be)
problem now, my idle temps are anormally high compared to these same benchmarks.... 75/55°C, normal or... not?
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just a build list. anything i can get cheaper/better?
Case: Coolermaster Elite 430
MOBO:ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GPU:EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
PSU: Rosewill capstone 550w
CPU: i5 3.2gh sandy bridge quad core
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8 GB
HDD: Hitachi deskstar 1 TB
Monitor: Asus 21.5 in LED
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On October 09 2012 09:17 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:
just a build list. anything i can get cheaper/better?
Case: Coolermaster Elite 430
MOBO:ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GPU:EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
PSU: Rosewill capstone 550w
CPU: i5 3.2gh sandy bridge quad core
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8 GB
HDD: Hitachi deskstar 1 TB
Monitor: Asus 21.5 in LED
Get the 450w variant instead.
Core i5 3.2ghz isn't very descriptive... but it isn't a K suffix i5 so you don't need a Z75 board unless it's cheaper than the H77 or B75.
560 isn't that good for its price usually..
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On October 09 2012 09:19 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 09:17 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:
just a build list. anything i can get cheaper/better?
Case: Coolermaster Elite 430
MOBO:ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GPU:EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
PSU: Rosewill capstone 550w
CPU: i5 3.2gh sandy bridge quad core
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8 GB
HDD: Hitachi deskstar 1 TB
Monitor: Asus 21.5 in LED Get the 450w variant instead. Core i5 3.2ghz isn't very descriptive... but it isn't a K suffix i5 so you don't need a Z75 board unless it's cheaper than the H77 or B75. 560 isn't that good for its price usually..
Aren't GeForce GTX 480 and Radeon HD 7870 within similar price range but better?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
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gtx 480 = gtx 570 = hd 6950 < hd 7870 (more or less)
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On October 09 2012 09:19 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 09:17 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:
just a build list. anything i can get cheaper/better?
Case: Coolermaster Elite 430
MOBO:ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GPU:EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
PSU: Rosewill capstone 550w
CPU: i5 3.2gh sandy bridge quad core
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8 GB
HDD: Hitachi deskstar 1 TB
Monitor: Asus 21.5 in LED Get the 450w variant instead. Core i5 3.2ghz isn't very descriptive... but it isn't a K suffix i5 so you don't need a Z75 board unless it's cheaper than the H77 or B75. 560 isn't that good for its price usually..
To add, the cpu is a
Intel Core i5-2310 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz (3.2GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core.
Another thing, what would be a good substitute for the 560?
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Check two posts above yours 
I have recently checked some tests which included 560ti and that's why I've decided to look for something within the price range but not sucking so much (560ti did pretty poorly in all of those tests, even compared to cheaper cards). Just look at GTX 480, it's $20 cheaper and blows GTX 560 Ti out of the water (in everything but power consumption).
With nVidia this are the breakpoints where card performance is significantly better than others inbetween (according to nVidia):
GTX 295(DX 10 though) = GTX 480 < GTX 570 < GTX 660 < GTX 580 < GTX 660 Ti < GTX 670 < GTX 680 < GTX 590 -> GTX 690
This are practically the only nVidia cards you should be looking at right now.
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On October 09 2012 11:06 Manit0u wrote:Check two posts above yours I have recently checked some tests which included 560ti and that's why I've decided to look for something within the price range but not sucking so much (560ti did pretty poorly in all of those tests, even compared to cheaper cards). Just look at GTX 480, it's $20 cheaper and blows GTX 560 Ti out of the water (in everything but power consumption).
You said that it does better in everything but power consumption, would i have to get the 550w instead of the 450w if i get this card?
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I have no idea how much your setup is going to use. GTX 480 uses around 250 Watt according to specs.
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On October 09 2012 10:58 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 09:19 skyR wrote:On October 09 2012 09:17 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:
just a build list. anything i can get cheaper/better?
Case: Coolermaster Elite 430
MOBO:ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GPU:EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
PSU: Rosewill capstone 550w
CPU: i5 3.2gh sandy bridge quad core
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8 GB
HDD: Hitachi deskstar 1 TB
Monitor: Asus 21.5 in LED Get the 450w variant instead. Core i5 3.2ghz isn't very descriptive... but it isn't a K suffix i5 so you don't need a Z75 board unless it's cheaper than the H77 or B75. 560 isn't that good for its price usually.. To add, the cpu is a Intel Core i5-2310 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz (3.2GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core. Another thing, what would be a good substitute for the 560?
Prices? Any particular reason to get Sandy Bridge over Ivy Bridge? I mean, Ivy Bridge is priced similarly, is slightly faster, and has lower power consumption.
I'm not sure if I would want GTX 480 at similar prices, because it's not only a lot more power hungry, but most models will be noisier and hotter, will heat up the rest of the computer more, etc. Older cards will stop getting support from Nvidia nearer in the future. edit: regardless, 450W is okay, because of low draw from CPU. GTX 480 can do in excess of 250W briefly in some synthetic loads if you get around the power limitation, but that's not a realistic scenario, and it falls within the capability of a decent 450W PSU anyway.
But anyway, GTX 560 (not Ti) is usually cheaper than everything everybody is mentioning anyway. It's more like HD 7850 1GB price, which is what I'd recommend instead, anyway.
Which Asus 21.5" are you looking at?
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On October 09 2012 11:18 Manit0u wrote:
I have no idea how much your setup is going to use. GTX 480 uses around 250 Watt according to specs.
how about the 550? it is about 75 dollars cheaper
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On October 09 2012 11:20 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 10:58 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:On October 09 2012 09:19 skyR wrote:On October 09 2012 09:17 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:
just a build list. anything i can get cheaper/better?
Case: Coolermaster Elite 430
MOBO:ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GPU:EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
PSU: Rosewill capstone 550w
CPU: i5 3.2gh sandy bridge quad core
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 8 GB
HDD: Hitachi deskstar 1 TB
Monitor: Asus 21.5 in LED Get the 450w variant instead. Core i5 3.2ghz isn't very descriptive... but it isn't a K suffix i5 so you don't need a Z75 board unless it's cheaper than the H77 or B75. 560 isn't that good for its price usually.. To add, the cpu is a Intel Core i5-2310 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz (3.2GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core. Another thing, what would be a good substitute for the 560? Prices? Any particular reason to get Sandy Bridge over Ivy Bridge? I mean, Ivy Bridge is priced similarly, is slightly faster, and has lower power consumption. I'm not sure if I would want GTX 480 at similar prices, because it's not only a lot more power hungry, but most models will be noisier and hotter, will heat up the rest of the computer more, etc. Older cards will stop getting support from Nvidia nearer in the future. edit: regardless, 450W is okay, because of low draw from CPU. GTX 480 can do in excess of 250W briefly in some synthetic loads if you get around the power limitation, but that's not a realistic scenario, and it falls within the capability of a decent 450W PSU anyway. But anyway, GTX 560 (not Ti) is usually cheaper than everything everybody is mentioning anyway. It's more like HD 7850 1GB price, which is what I'd recommend instead, anyway. Which Asus 21.5" are you looking at?
The ASUS VS229H-P Black 21.5" 5ms (GTG) HDMI IPS-Panel LED-Backlit Widescreen LCD Monitor
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On October 09 2012 11:23 Manit0u wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.geforce.com/Active/en_US/shared/images/products/shared/lineup.png)
the 480 is way more power hungry for a little bit better performance. im probably gona stick with the 560
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