Computer Build Resource Thread - Page 1250

On October 08 2012 03:12 JingleHell wrote:
MisterFred: That's his CURRENT build you're critiquing... not the future one. Check the newegg wishlist for the X79 rig.

On October 08 2012 03:11 MisterFred wrote:


SkyR is pointing out that you're throwing money away, as in pulling out $100 bills and lighting them on fire, not as in being willing to spend a lot on something really good. We have no problem with expensive computers here, but there's no reason for most of your choices.

Regarding your wishlist:
No reason to go with x79. Get an ordinary 1155 board (say a Gigabyte z77-ud3h, I haven't looked at prices recently), and an i7-3770k (or no k if not overclocking). Why? Because the i7-3770k outperforms the i7-3930k for most tasks, including gaming. So why pay more for something that does a worse job?

Case is really meh for the price. I'd recommend a Corsair 550d.

Same with the PSU. Very meh for the price. If you want really nice stuff, get a PSU from the Seasonic X-series (more modern - this is pointless, and quieter - this is not pointless).

Same with aftermarket cooler. Get a Tranquillo or HR-02 Macho (quieter fan, not found on newegg) or don't bother since you're not overclocking. If considering an overclock

RAM is pointlessly fast. Also, a mite tall. Get low-profile 1600mhz RAM. There's no performance reason to pay more for faster speed on RAM. If you really want 2x8gb, fine, but you almost certainly will never notice a difference compared with 2x4gb.

Video card is very expensive for the performance. Benchmarks show it only 5% (or less) faster than the much cheaper 670. Generally, I'd say just get a 670, unless you have some technical skills, in which case if you really want the highest performance get two Radeon 7950s (or 670s). If you don't get two video cards, get a motherboard cheaper than the one I recommended above.

Spend any remaining money in your budget on more/better monitors.

On October 08 2012 05:11 Myrmidon wrote:
What you want to do is replace the XL2410T...

Running RAM higher than 1600 MHz should probably be considered overclocking btw. You want to overclock RAM and not the CPU or GPU? Or you want to run 2400 MHz-rated RAM at a lower speed? (and really, you know all kinds of difference the higher speed makes, right?)

Of course the new build is waste of money, but who says that you can't waste money if you want to? I just think that there are better things to waste money on, even if you're looking at computer-related stuff. $255 RAM, $330 motherboard for a build that's not going to be overclocked, not to mention most of the other things? Then a leafblower-design reference graphics card?

btw that's a SAS (not SATA) hard drive, and that motherboard doesn't support SAS.

If you want to get a build to show off, get something that looks better than a HAF 932. Can't you afford a Silverstone FT02 or something? Or if you don't care about price, get some kind of specialty acrylic / aluminum / whatever build. You can also try something more functional in a different way, like building around extremely low system noise or small size or something different.

On October 08 2012 05:15 NuKE[vZ] wrote:



Why would I replace the XL2410T? 120hz/2ms, it's a great monitor. If anything I will probably have to upgrade to a new one, as I would give it to my brother. Would get their latest monitor of their 120hz/2ms series, I think it's XL2412T or something.

Have you any suggestions then? Give me your build that makes sense, will stay at stock with capabilities of being OC'd in the future. Just PC parts, I'll leave the monitor to my choosing. Thanks in advance.

EDIT: The fact of the matter is, I will be getting a new pc. My old pc is irrelevant atm, so any help would be much appreciated.

On October 08 2012 05:32 Myrmidon wrote:


What's the point of the XL2410T? 120 Hz for better motion performance? The problem is that the motion responsiveness is worse than on most 60 Hz sets because of the poor overdrive to achieve the "2 ms", even worse than IPS variants that should be slower:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/benq_xl2410t.htm#display_comparisons

If it doesn't bother you, then good.


As for a specific build, what's it going to be used for, other than presumably games and maybe Blu-Ray content?

On October 08 2012 06:51 Medrea wrote:


Hey Nuke! The problem we are having is that we dont have enough information to work with. And chances are I could swap the machine your planning to buy with a system thats about a third of the cost, and chances are VERY good you would not know the difference.

So Im gonna go down your wish list and ask you if there is any reason you are getting X part instead of Y part.

Why the Haf 932 instead of the Haf 912 which is a third of the price and will in no way impact performance of your build.

Why the 3930 hexacore when a non-enthusiast quad core will give you identical performance in games while costing half as much. You would have to be super big into 2D programs like photoshop or streaming, and even then I wouldnt recommend a 2011 socket since that socket is old now.

Same goes for the $340 motherboard. In non enthusiast land you can get a motherboard that can overclock for $90.

Why $250 dollar RAM when $50 RAM has identical performance for nearly everything and 1155 only calls for 1333mhz.

Why an Enterprise hard drive? At all?

Why pair $2500 worth of computer hardware with a shitty air cooler? I expect at LEAST a custom water loop with phase change since you will probably be seeking world record benchmarks.

$2500 in and only ONE 680?

The build in general is very schizophrenic. And as I said its very easy to build a setup that performs the same as this setup. You can't even think you are future proofing because this $2500 and an $800 will be obsolete at the same time. And since Im spending $1700 dollars less, I could have had quadruple 680's in my rig if I wanted to, which would blow away your paltry single 680.

So what is it you wanna do? Play games? Because Quadruple 680 sandwich is better than one 680. Lots of encoding? Because two computers is actually better for that as well.

If you are dead set on spending that kind of money. Spend a good amount of the budget on NOT the computer.

Get a good desk if you dont have one.
Get an EXCELLENT chair. Aeron's are excellent and are cheap now, only $500.
Get perfect mouse and keyboard.
Get a professional headphone and microphone. Custom molded if you want.

These will increase quality of life way way more than hexcore sandy bridge.

On October 08 2012 07:58 Medrea wrote:
As I was saying, with that kind of budget you are actually better off buying two computers for streaming, with a capture card.

A hexacore wont be able to stream and play SC2 or many games flawlessly, but 2 quadcore i7's will, and are cheaper to boot.

So you can just build yourself a second computer with like an i5 or i7, and just have it chilling out while you arent streaming, or turn it on for tournament quality streaming ability. AND you would be saving money.