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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#24941
660ti doesnt make sense and sometimes gets beat out by the 660 which is quite a bit cheaper. nVidia cannot compete with AMD at that price range, not with the 660ti anyway.
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apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 01:05:50
October 05 2012 01:02 GMT
#24942
posted here last time to get suggestion on build and was suggested:

mb : http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/msi-motherboard-z77ag45
cpu fan : http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu9bse2

However, here's where I'm a bit concerned. It says that the motherboard is LGA1155 and fan is compatible with LGA1156, but where the cpu goes (motherboard), it says LGA115X ? Can X be 6?

EDIT: Not sure if this will help, but the backplate of the fan fits fine on the back on the mb
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 01:06:43
October 05 2012 01:06 GMT
#24943
On October 05 2012 10:02 apm66 wrote:
posted here last time to get suggestion on build and was suggested:

mb : http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/msi-motherboard-z77ag45
cpu fan : http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu9bse2

However, here's where I'm a bit concerned. It says that the motherboard is LGA1155 and fan is compatible with LGA1156, but where the cpu goes (motherboard), it says LGA115X ? Can X be 6?


From the CPU cooler page...

Supported Sockets AM2, AM2+, AM3, AM3+, LGA775, LGA1155, LGA1156, LGA1366


It's fine.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
October 05 2012 03:18 GMT
#24944
Just wanted to chime in to say thanks to Ata and Myrmidon for the build you guys gave me awhile ago. The new computer runs quite well and I'm quite pleased with what I ended up with.
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Keltanokka
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Finland279 Posts
October 05 2012 07:31 GMT
#24945
I'm planning on upgrading my PC in the next few weeks, but I only really need a new mobo and a new CPU since all the other stuff is still relatively new compared to the rest of it. I was thinking of getting an i7, but noticed that there are 2 variants. What's the difference between the 3770 and the 3770k? and how would it affect which mobo I would have to buy?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
October 05 2012 08:15 GMT
#24946
On October 05 2012 16:31 Keltanokka wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading my PC in the next few weeks, but I only really need a new mobo and a new CPU since all the other stuff is still relatively new compared to the rest of it. I was thinking of getting an i7, but noticed that there are 2 variants. What's the difference between the 3770 and the 3770k? and how would it affect which mobo I would have to buy?

K is unlocked and therefore you can overclock it. If you got the K version you would need a Z77 motherboard, but only a H77 if you got the regular version.

Getting an i7 for the sake of getting an i7 is a good way to spend 50% more than you need to. An i5 is literally the same as the i7 for all but a few tasks (streaming, video encoding, other demanding heavily threaded applications).

Also if your RAM is DDR2 you will have to upgrade to DDR3.
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
October 05 2012 08:16 GMT
#24947
On October 05 2012 16:31 Keltanokka wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading my PC in the next few weeks, but I only really need a new mobo and a new CPU since all the other stuff is still relatively new compared to the rest of it. I was thinking of getting an i7, but noticed that there are 2 variants. What's the difference between the 3770 and the 3770k? and how would it affect which mobo I would have to buy?


The K-processors have an unlocked multiplier, which means that they can be overclocked. If you buy such a processor and plan on overclocking, make sure to grab a motherboard with a Z77 chipset, to have the full range of overclocking settings in the BIOS. In addition, buy a third party cooler, since the stock Intel one doesn't work too well when overclocking. If you're not overclocking, buy the non-K processor, grab a cheaper motherboard and consider sticking with the stock cooler (it might be a bit more noisy than third party coolers).
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Keltanokka
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Finland279 Posts
October 05 2012 10:16 GMT
#24948
On October 05 2012 17:15 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 16:31 Keltanokka wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading my PC in the next few weeks, but I only really need a new mobo and a new CPU since all the other stuff is still relatively new compared to the rest of it. I was thinking of getting an i7, but noticed that there are 2 variants. What's the difference between the 3770 and the 3770k? and how would it affect which mobo I would have to buy?

K is unlocked and therefore you can overclock it. If you got the K version you would need a Z77 motherboard, but only a H77 if you got the regular version.

Getting an i7 for the sake of getting an i7 is a good way to spend 50% more than you need to. An i5 is literally the same as the i7 for all but a few tasks (streaming, video encoding, other demanding heavily threaded applications).

Also if your RAM is DDR2 you will have to upgrade to DDR3.


I mainly want to get an i7 to future proof myself, but I also want to be able to stream/record games that are demanding on the CPU, which I can't right now. So I think I might invest in the 3770k and a cooler, just to be good for the next 3-5 years. Thanks for the advice.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
October 05 2012 12:02 GMT
#24949
On October 05 2012 19:16 Keltanokka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 17:15 iTzSnypah wrote:
On October 05 2012 16:31 Keltanokka wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading my PC in the next few weeks, but I only really need a new mobo and a new CPU since all the other stuff is still relatively new compared to the rest of it. I was thinking of getting an i7, but noticed that there are 2 variants. What's the difference between the 3770 and the 3770k? and how would it affect which mobo I would have to buy?

K is unlocked and therefore you can overclock it. If you got the K version you would need a Z77 motherboard, but only a H77 if you got the regular version.

Getting an i7 for the sake of getting an i7 is a good way to spend 50% more than you need to. An i5 is literally the same as the i7 for all but a few tasks (streaming, video encoding, other demanding heavily threaded applications).

Also if your RAM is DDR2 you will have to upgrade to DDR3.


I mainly want to get an i7 to future proof myself, but I also want to be able to stream/record games that are demanding on the CPU, which I can't right now. So I think I might invest in the 3770k and a cooler, just to be good for the next 3-5 years. Thanks for the advice.

i7 != future proof, but it does cost more if that's what you're into. It would probably be a boon in streaming though, which a nice overclock will help even more with. Both the i7-3770k and the i5-3570k will be rather obsolete in ~3 years.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 05 2012 14:09 GMT
#24950
On October 05 2012 21:02 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 19:16 Keltanokka wrote:
On October 05 2012 17:15 iTzSnypah wrote:
On October 05 2012 16:31 Keltanokka wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading my PC in the next few weeks, but I only really need a new mobo and a new CPU since all the other stuff is still relatively new compared to the rest of it. I was thinking of getting an i7, but noticed that there are 2 variants. What's the difference between the 3770 and the 3770k? and how would it affect which mobo I would have to buy?

K is unlocked and therefore you can overclock it. If you got the K version you would need a Z77 motherboard, but only a H77 if you got the regular version.

Getting an i7 for the sake of getting an i7 is a good way to spend 50% more than you need to. An i5 is literally the same as the i7 for all but a few tasks (streaming, video encoding, other demanding heavily threaded applications).

Also if your RAM is DDR2 you will have to upgrade to DDR3.


I mainly want to get an i7 to future proof myself, but I also want to be able to stream/record games that are demanding on the CPU, which I can't right now. So I think I might invest in the 3770k and a cooler, just to be good for the next 3-5 years. Thanks for the advice.

i7 != future proof, but it does cost more if that's what you're into. It would probably be a boon in streaming though, which a nice overclock will help even more with. Both the i7-3770k and the i5-3570k will be rather obsolete in ~3 years.

What the ... No they won't be obsolete at all in 3 years. They are barely fully utilized by most things even now. They're going to last far longer than 3 years, or even 5 years.
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Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 17:13:20
October 05 2012 17:12 GMT
#24951
When people say that i7 != future proof, they mean in terms of comparing to the i5-3570k. When it comes to gaming, these two are going to be pretty identical and will become shitty at the same time(unless games start to use more cores). Streaming is another thing which will enjoy some improvement from the i7-3770k, if its worth the extra 100$, then that depends on how hardcore you are.

edit:100$ being 50% more than the i5 is huge.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 17:17:47
October 05 2012 17:17 GMT
#24952
For comparison i7 920 is about 4 years old and its not worth upgrading, everything still works out maxed, these new i7 and i5 cpus are going to be fine way longer than 5 years.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
October 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#24953
On October 05 2012 12:18 Zona wrote:
Just wanted to chime in to say thanks to Ata and Myrmidon for the build you guys gave me awhile ago. The new computer runs quite well and I'm quite pleased with what I ended up with.


Good to hear
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
October 06 2012 05:11 GMT
#24954
If you want to stream and don't mind the price jump it makes sense to go for the 3770k over the 3570k. It seems to overclock a tad better too.
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QzYSc2
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 17:08:28
October 06 2012 13:31 GMT
#24955
hello, total newbie here.
im planning to run games like sc2, gw2, WoW etc on the highest settings around 70-80 fps at least -while streaming-. my budget is around 1800 euro.

no overclocking, only plan it to use it for gaming and streaming /watching video's.



since i suck at building computers, i've been looking at this,
http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Ultra_SCYLLA_SE/
what motherboard should i take if im planning to go with a
cpu: AMD fx 8150
graphics card: radeon HD 7970
RAM: 8x2 gb kingston hyperx
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 06 2012 20:17 GMT
#24956
i'm trying to price up a cheapish rig for a friend who's in need of an upgrade, he's only doing light gaming and the like and on somewhat of a budget, so was thinking of going for an i3-3220 as a starting point to go from, but i have no real clue as to what motherboard to use, seems to be a fair amount of choice in terms of chipsets/features, but am looking for a something which isn't micro-atx which'd ideally have the option of onboard graphics if he can't stretch to a dedicated card. based in the uk so would probably be looking at ebuyer/aria/scan/overclockers. tia
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 06 2012 20:28 GMT
#24957
Integrated graphics are all located on the CPU nowadays. Just get any B75 or H77 board that suits your needs.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 06 2012 20:42 GMT
#24958
Unless "light gaming" means flash games or games that are a few years old at least (but I don't think that would be called "light"), or the build actually needs CPU power for whatever reason, you're better off with something cheaper from Intel (lower than i3) with a dedicated graphics card or an AMD A-series APU.


On October 06 2012 22:31 QzYSc2 wrote:
hello, total newbie here.
im planning to run games like sc2, gw2, WoW etc on the highest settings around 70-80 fps at least -while streaming-. my budget is around 1800 euro.

no overclocking, only plan it to use it for gaming and streaming /watching video's.
+ Show Spoiler +



since i suck at building computers, i've been looking at this,
http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Ultra_SCYLLA_SE/
what motherboard should i take if im planning to go with a
cpu: AMD fx 8150
graphics card: radeon HD 7970
RAM: 8x2 gb kingston hyperx

These goals are conflicting with each other: running SC2 smoothly (much less consistently 70-80 fps—70-80 fps in early parts of the game is trivial but impossible in others) and no overclocking.

The individual CPU cores in the FX-8150 are much too slow for what you want for SC2. You want the highest-clocked modern Core i5 or i7 possible.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 00:31:46
October 07 2012 00:27 GMT
#24959
Guys, a question. I'm currently totally done with laptops for the rest of my life. I'm trying to build some fairly reasonable desktop but unfortunately don't have a lot of cash to spend on it right now. Just tell me please if this would be reasonable and how can I improve it (if at all) in terms of price/performance within this price range. Some stuff here isn't what I really wanted but that's what the store has where I can get some discounts.

CPU: AMD  Phenom II X4 Quad-Core 965 Black Edition, Socket AM3, 3,4GHz, 8MB, 125W, BOX
Motherboard: AM3 MSI 870A­G54 (FX), AMD 870, DualDDR3­ 1333, SATA3, GBLAN, ATX
RAM: Patriot 2X2GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-­ECC CL9 DIMM kit
GPU: Gainward GeForce GTS 450, Green Edition 1GB GDDR5 (128 Bit),HDMI, DVI­, VGA
PSU: Corsair 500W Builder Series™ CX500 V2, ATX, 80 PLUS
Case: Cooler Master Centurion 534 Light silver
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green, 3.5'', 500GB, SATA/600, 64MB cache
Cooling: Arctic­-Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2

~$610

Is that any good for at least some of the modern games? I think it should handle most of them at max settings, but you can never be too sure...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 07 2012 00:44 GMT
#24960
That will not handle modern games at max settings (well, actually depends on resolution, but on standard 1080p it will not)

if you answer the quesitons in the OP we will be able to help you, if you don't well, we can't know exactly what you need
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