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On October 02 2012 12:30 Sein wrote:
What are your thoughts on microATX? Thinking about getting <MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS> because it is available for quite cheap right now.
I'm probably going to get i5-3570k and gtx660 with it.
mATX is fine if you don't need the extra expansion slots.
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On October 02 2012 09:16 InDaHouse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 07:18 Shauni wrote:On October 02 2012 06:48 InDaHouse wrote:Hi guys, its been a long time since I lurked this awesome thread. I am going to build a new rig now since my current PC is falling apart. I hope you can give me some good feedback! Mobo: I want a midend mobo to support Ivy bridge. I prefer ASUS.
CPU: I want a midend cpu like Intel i5 ivy bridge, but I can go for i7 if you suggest that is better for the longterm.
Case: NZXT Phantom Big Tower <-- Yes I want a white one.
RAM: 8GB, but not Kingston plz.
SSD: I want a small Intel ssd just for the OS to be on.
GPU: Geforce GTX 460 <--- Already have.
PSU: Corsair 1000W <---- Already have.
OS: Win 7 64 bit <---- Already have.
I have read this link on Toms Hardware, but didn't get easier. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.htmlMy budget is around 1000 dollars, but I will be happy if it can be cheaper  Mobo: ASRock Z77 EXTREME4 Intel Z77 4xDDR3 SLI CrossFireX Socket 1155 ATX 1149kr (Reason: Asus overpriced) CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Socket 1155 Box 1838kr (As requested) Case: NZXT Phantom FullTower No PSU White ATX 1189 kr (As requested) RAM: Corsair Core i7/i5/i2 8GB Kit PC3-10666, 1333MHz, 2x240 DIMM 315 kr (Cheap, not Kingston) SSD: Intel 520 Series 60GB SSD R:550/W:475 2.5" SATA-3 Reseller 615 kr (As requested) 5106 kr (4850 kr with sweclockers).AT CDONEdit: Shauni: That mobo is out of stock at cdon. I don't wanna be cheap on mobo, so come up with suggestions. And in what way is Asus overpriced? Nice thanks! So is it worth to put more money on RAM than those you suggested? Ps. Are you the same Shauni that used to stream BW and was A+ on Iccup? ds. Edit: Mobo out of stock at cdon.com. I don't want to be cheap on a mobo, so give me some suggestions on good mobos
No
Yes
Asus P8Z77-V Intel Z77 4xDDR Socket 1155 ATX (Your question is subjective, you don't need to throw money at motherboard unless you want some extra functions like better soundcard, wifi, extra ports etc). Many Z77 boards around 1000 sek are perfectly fine.
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I am thinking of building the following PC but was wondering on other people's thoughts for my choices.
I was thinking low to mid budget as it is a new PC for my wife who will use it for work, school, movies and some low end games (think SC2 or WoW).
Also will be getting cheap kb/mouse and 21.5" monitor.
Prices listed are in Australian $ which is close to USD:
Intel CPU: Intel CPU Core i5 3450 - LGA 1155 @ $184.80
- Intel Motherboards: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H Intel Mainboard - LGA 1155 @ $120
- Desktop Hard Drives: Western Digital Caviar GREEN 1TB @ $74.80
- Optical Drives: Pioneer DVD/CD Burner (DVR-220LBKS) @ $20
- Desktop Memory: Corsair 8GB kit (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (CMX8GX3M2B1600C9) @ $50
- Cases (PSU included): Thermaltake Black Versa II Mid Tower Chassis & 500w PSU (USB3) @ $70
- Graphics Cards: Asus RADEON 7770 1GB V2 @ $149
- Network Adapters: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 @ $50
- Sound Cards: Creative Sound Blaster 5.1VX @ $30
- Microsoft Windows: Microsoft Windows 7 Premium, Service Pack 1, 64-bit OEM @ $80
I think only thing I may want to change is the graphics from 7770 to 7850 perhaps which puts that up to ~$200.
Thanks for your input
edit:
I should add that we do not plan to OC at all and will use 1920x1080 resolution or perhaps one notch down.
Upgrade cycle will be 2-4years if ever.
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Hey first reply so hope I dont stuff it up. XD
Do you intend to overclock?
What do you intend to do with this computer?
Are you going to SLI or Cross-fire?
I'm assuming you don't want to overclock and want to play games(i.e. no video editing or streaming) and aren't going to use SLI or Cross-fire.
Don't need i7 an i5 will work in almost all modern games(by that I mean 60+ frames on SC2 with i5)
Don't need CPU cooler if you don't want to overclock
You're paying way too much for your motherboard, you have3 3PCI express slots do you need them?
You only need 4 gigs of ram if you intend to play games
I would probarbly use the money you saved from other components for a better case and Video card consider spending ~$100 on case and ~$400 on GPU, I wouldnt recomend getting top tier cards(7970 or GTX 680) too much premium
For a single GPU system just get 500w from a reputable brand
I would also recommend putting your build on other sites to get a broader opinion.
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@Arrtee (messed up my quotes)
- Intel Motherboards: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H Intel Mainboard - LGA 1155 @ $120
- Network Adapters: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 @ $50
- Sound Cards: Creative Sound Blaster 5.1VX @ $30
Hey,
Are you set on Gigabyte? you could get cheaper quality motherborads
Are you sure your internet connection is that fast why not the ~20 model?
Unless your a studio or audiophile you probably won't need a soundcard, check if your motherboard has 5.1 sound if you already have a system
I would also recommend putting your build on other sites to get a broader opinion.
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On September 30 2012 15:11 navy wrote:
Amount I'm looking to spend: ~1,500,000 won (~$1500). Flexible (could be a bit higher, if necessary)
Playing SC2 @ 1920 x 1080 (27")
Streaming SC2 (at a lower res)
Playing unkown, graphically demanding games in the future
Heavy 3D modelling, Heavy Photoshop work.
3D Rendering
nt of dedicated Vram.
Hi,
Video editing isn't my speciality but ill give it a go! XD
CPU: i7 3770
RAM: corsair 2x8
GPU: HD7950 I prefer the Gigabyte version (dont get 7970 or 680 way too much premium)
MOBO: Asrock extreme4 or pro3
HD: I would seriously recommend a SSD especial for photoshop and video eidting of the 256gb variety (makes loading and rendering soooo much quicker XD) alongside whatever seagate or WD HD you need of the 1TB or 2Tb variety[I found it easier to work out how much i was paying per GB of data, from that i chose the 2TB)
Case: whatever you want around ~100 probably for your build(Check reviews)
PSU: corsair 500w (do not skimp on PSU)
DvD/CD drive: cheapest one
If the screen is important why not get 2 60hz 24inch samsung?(I say 60 because you wont be able to run SC2 at 120+fps)[get AMD card for dual screen setup, Nividia if you intend to play any PhysX games]
with a good case you won't need any extra cooling (if sound is an issue buy long cords and put it in a different room)
Keep in mind there is a chance something won't work, if you can easily access the store you brought the parts from it will be easier to return.
Please also post this build on another site, preferably a video editing/photoshop forum
While randomly searching the web i found a thread that has a serious video editing build in your price range
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1988536
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On October 02 2012 15:54 Arrtee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I am thinking of building the following PC but was wondering on other people's thoughts for my choices. I was thinking low to mid budget as it is a new PC for my wife who will use it for work, school, movies and some low end games (think SC2 or WoW). Also will be getting cheap kb/mouse and 21.5" monitor. Prices listed are in Australian $ which is close to USD: Intel CPU: Intel CPU Core i5 3450 - LGA 1155 @ $184.80 - Intel Motherboards: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H Intel Mainboard - LGA 1155 @ $120 - Desktop Hard Drives: Western Digital Caviar GREEN 1TB @ $74.80 - Optical Drives: Pioneer DVD/CD Burner (DVR-220LBKS) @ $20 - Desktop Memory: Corsair 8GB kit (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (CMX8GX3M2B1600C9) @ $50 - Cases (PSU included): Thermaltake Black Versa II Mid Tower Chassis & 500w PSU (USB3) @ $70 - Graphics Cards: Asus RADEON 7770 1GB V2 @ $149 - Network Adapters: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 @ $50 - Sound Cards: Creative Sound Blaster 5.1VX @ $30 - Microsoft Windows: Microsoft Windows 7 Premium, Service Pack 1, 64-bit OEM @ $80 I think only thing I may want to change is the graphics from 7770 to 7850 perhaps which puts that up to ~$200. Thanks for your input edit: I should add that we do not plan to OC at all and will use 1920x1080 resolution or perhaps one notch down. Upgrade cycle will be 2-4years if ever.
If you are not overclocking than you can get a B75 or H77 board instead of the Z77.
Cases that comes with power supplies, the majority of times is a bad idea... your choice is no exception. Get an Antec Neo Eco 400C or Earthwatts along with a case that doesn't come with a PSU.
You need a 7200 RPM HDD (Caviar Blue) or SSD as your boot drive. Caviar Greens are too slow.
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Thanks for the replies, been a while since I built a PC at all.
We are certainly not overclocking so I will check these other 2 cheaper boards.
My net connection is probably not that fast, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a bad signal as its a desktop PC and it must run net wirelessly unfortunately. I think I can change that to a $20 USB wireless N dongle which I use on my own PC.
Perhaps it's my own PC, which is a number of years old, that had sound issues with on board sound so was trying to prevent that in the new machine. If on board nowadays is fine then ill scrap that.
I think I will certainly get an Antec psu separate to the case, I have that ATM and its fantastic - trust your opinion!
I haven't bought a HD at all since SSD were even released years ago so I will take your word for it. Add a little for a 7200 and ill spend 50-60 for a SSD too.
Any comments on my thoughts of possibly changing graphics card up a notch to a 7850 from the 7770 or would you expect it to be much the same for her purposes?
Again, thanks a lot - don't have many tech friends I could ask.
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Onboard audio is usually fine. If it's not, then you can get something else. And if you get something else, a 2-3 generations old Creative sound card is probably not the best pick.
7770 should be enough.
I recommend not getting really cheap monitor / keyboard / mouse (well, at least monitor... depends how the others are used). In Australia, in the very least, you can get a BenQ GW2250M, which is already pretty cheap. Anyway, don't get the cheapest 21.5" TN panel you can find, or even some options more expensive than that.
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Yeh I agree with what you have said above.
Only reason it's cheap kb mouse as I'm not sure her preferences and at worst she will buy another mouse which is fine.
I can get that monitor through my work for $135 with delivery. Seems good spec too and has speakers!
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On October 02 2012 15:54 Arrtee wrote:I am thinking of building the following PC but was wondering on other people's thoughts for my choices. I was thinking low to mid budget as it is a new PC for my wife who will use it for work, school, movies and some low end games (think SC2 or WoW). Also will be getting cheap kb/mouse and 21.5" monitor. Prices listed are in Australian $ which is close to USD: Intel CPU: Intel CPU Core i5 3450 - LGA 1155 @ $184.80 - Intel Motherboards: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H Intel Mainboard - LGA 1155 @ $120 - Desktop Hard Drives: Western Digital Caviar GREEN 1TB @ $74.80 - Optical Drives: Pioneer DVD/CD Burner (DVR-220LBKS) @ $20 - Desktop Memory: Corsair 8GB kit (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (CMX8GX3M2B1600C9) @ $50 - Cases (PSU included): Thermaltake Black Versa II Mid Tower Chassis & 500w PSU (USB3) @ $70 - Graphics Cards: Asus RADEON 7770 1GB V2 @ $149 - Network Adapters: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 @ $50 - Sound Cards: Creative Sound Blaster 5.1VX @ $30 - Microsoft Windows: Microsoft Windows 7 Premium, Service Pack 1, 64-bit OEM @ $80 I think only thing I may want to change is the graphics from 7770 to 7850 perhaps which puts that up to ~$200. Thanks for your input edit: I should add that we do not plan to OC at all and will use 1920x1080 resolution or perhaps one notch down. Upgrade cycle will be 2-4years if ever.
After reviewing all the feedback, this is how I've put it together.
Let me know further feedback or compatibility issues
Intel CPU Intel CPU Core i5 3450 - LGA 1155 $184.80
Intel Motherboards Asus P8B75-M Intel Mainboard - LGA 1155 $75.00
Desktop Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB $93.50
Solid State Drives Corsair Force Series 3 60GB SSD $69.00
Optical Drives Pioneer DVD/CD Burner (DVR-220LBKS) $31.00
Desktop Memory Corsair 8GB kit (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (CMX8GX3M2B1600C9) $52.00
Case Cooler Master Elite 430 $51.00
Power Supplies Antec High Current Gamer 520w $85.00
Graphics Cards Asus RADEON 7770 1GB V2 $149.00
Network Adapters Patriot Wireless N $19.00
Keyboards Logitech MK260 $25
Monitor GW2250M $135
Comes out at roughly the same price, slightly higher.
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Know nothing about computer spec, but is the info below enough to handle SC?
Intel Atom D525 1.80 GHz - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150 Graphics Card - HDMI Zotac ZBOX ZBOXSD-ID13 Nettop Computer - Intel Atom D525 1.80 GHz
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Its an Atom processor so no don't even bother trying.
On October 03 2012 08:46 Arrtee wrote:
Yeh I agree with what you have said above.
Only reason it's cheap kb mouse as I'm not sure her preferences and at worst she will buy another mouse which is fine.
I can get that monitor through my work for $135 with delivery. Seems good spec too and has speakers!
"Specs" with monitors don't mean anything. All monitor speakers suck.
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Hello guys!
I am planning to build a PC in the very near future, i.e. as soon as possible. I don't want to buy anything which I am not completely convinced of though, which is why I need your guys' advice, confirmation and/or suggestions for better builds. I thought I had a little knowledge in terms of hardware before, but as I started to search for components I realized that i knew only very little :D So I started to look around in the last couple of days, getting some information on what is new and what is outdated, which compartment contributes to which issue exactly etc. However, I still struggle to evaluate what is really necessary, what is luxury, where to really look closely on what to buy and and how to make the compartments work together in the best possible way.
Still, after spending some time, I came to a - let's call it preliminary - build which I feel will satisfy my needs. But before going in to detail, here is what it should work for:
+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
My budget is around 900€, which can be spent on hardware only . I already have an OS, as well as screen, mouse and keybord.
What is your resolution?
Currently, i am playing my games on 1280x1024. I dont know much about resolution standards and supports, but since i dont plan to buy a new PC in another year higher resolutions should also be supported without problems.
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming. Of course, i will also watch movies and do some other stuff on the PC too, but they should not really affect hardwaredecisions i guess. I plan to use Linux as a second OS, but i dont know whether this is important or not.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I want a PC which is able to support future upgrades. I found the best way to do this is to rather spend money on motherboard and CPU rather than in GPU (correct me if I am wrong). The longevity of those important parts is one of the bigger issues to me. I feel like if i put money into CPU and motherboard it should be rather simple to add RAM or to replace a GPU which may be outdated in two years instead of replacing all the pieces because the are not compatible.
When do you plan on building it?
As mentioned, most likely within the next two weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I dont plan on overclocking, which is mainly because I have close to no clue about it. I would rather be afraid to break something. If the compartments support overclocking though, I won't be too sad, maybe it will become a reliable option to me in the future. I dont want to spend a lot of money only for the sake of being able to overclock though.
Do you need an Operating System?
No.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No. I feel like replacing my GPU with a better one will be a better solution than adding a second GPU to it. But again, correct me if I'm wrong.
Where are you buying your parts from?
As I live in germany, i heard hardwareversand.de and mindfactory.de are good choices.
What is important to me in general:
-> I want the important parts (motherboard, CPU, ...) to be capable on future upgrades like exchanging GPU, adding RAM, whatever. This really states my main concern
-> I don't want to spend my money on useless things
-> I want the PC to be rather quiet
-> Chosing between two pieces, the longevity and stability should make the difference
Now my preliminary choice of hardware pieces and maybe some comments on it (the main concerns should be clear from the questions in the spoiler though):
+ Show Spoiler + CPU: i5-3570K ->maybe without the K, but it is not much of a difference in price Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V Pro RAM: Mushkin DIMM 8GB DDR3-1600 Kit -> one of the best timings for this price -> I know I wont need 8GB, but as memory is so cheap nowadays.....why not! GPU: GTX660 -> After choosing all the other pieces, I found myself being left with around 200-250€. I am not too much into GPU's, but after compairing a few of them i found this one to be a reasonable choice. Hard Drive: Intel 330 series 2,5" SSD 60GB (OS + drivers etc) Western Digital WD10EARX (Data) -> Not sure about that though, i dont really know what to look on in terms of hard drives, like how much speed do I need etc. Cooling: Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E -> The cooler should really not be loud but still keep everything cool over a few hours of gaming. I dont really know if this one is enough, but I think it should be. Main Adapter: Corsair CX430 V2 -> Checking my requirements, I calculated around 300-350W for this setup. This adapter supports 500W, just to be sure. Case: I dont know what to really look for, I only know I need ATX and a midi-tower should be enough. Is there anything to watch out for besides the look? I heard Coolermaster, Thermaltake and Enermax produce solid stuff. Any other advices?
What I ask you guys to do:
Tell me if this build is reasonable and satisfies my needs. I hope everything I put value on is clear after reading this post, if not feel free to ask me more questions of course. I would really appreciate your help, suggestions, criticism and discovery of weaknesses on my build.
Regards,
Vermilion
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On October 04 2012 00:30 Vermilion wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hello guys! I am planning to build a PC in the very near future, i.e. as soon as possible. I don't want to buy anything which I am not completely convinced of though, which is why I need your guys' advice, confirmation and/or suggestions for better builds. I thought I had a little knowledge in terms of hardware before, but as I started to search for components I realized that i knew only very little :D So I started to look around in the last couple of days, getting some information on what is new and what is outdated, which compartment contributes to which issue exactly etc. However, I still struggle to evaluate what is really necessary, what is luxury, where to really look closely on what to buy and and how to make the compartments work together in the best possible way. Still, after spending some time, I came to a - let's call it preliminary - build which I feel will satisfy my needs. But before going in to detail, here is what it should work for: + Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
My budget is around 900€, which can be spent on hardware only . I already have an OS, as well as screen, mouse and keybord.
What is your resolution?
Currently, i am playing my games on 1280x1024. I dont know much about resolution standards and supports, but since i dont plan to buy a new PC in another year higher resolutions should also be supported without problems.
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming. Of course, i will also watch movies and do some other stuff on the PC too, but they should not really affect hardwaredecisions i guess. I plan to use Linux as a second OS, but i dont know whether this is important or not.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I want a PC which is able to support future upgrades. I found the best way to do this is to rather spend money on motherboard and CPU rather than in GPU (correct me if I am wrong). The longevity of those important parts is one of the bigger issues to me. I feel like if i put money into CPU and motherboard it should be rather simple to add RAM or to replace a GPU which may be outdated in two years instead of replacing all the pieces because the are not compatible.
When do you plan on building it?
As mentioned, most likely within the next two weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I dont plan on overclocking, which is mainly because I have close to no clue about it. I would rather be afraid to break something. If the compartments support overclocking though, I won't be too sad, maybe it will become a reliable option to me in the future. I dont want to spend a lot of money only for the sake of being able to overclock though.
Do you need an Operating System?
No.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No. I feel like replacing my GPU with a better one will be a better solution than adding a second GPU to it. But again, correct me if I'm wrong.
Where are you buying your parts from?
As I live in germany, i heard hardwareversand.de and mindfactory.de are good choices.
What is important to me in general:
-> I want the important parts (motherboard, CPU, ...) to be capable on future upgrades like exchanging GPU, adding RAM, whatever. This really states my main concern
-> I don't want to spend my money on useless things
-> I want the PC to be rather quiet
-> Chosing between two pieces, the longevity and stability should make the difference
Now my preliminary choice of hardware pieces and maybe some comments on it (the main concerns should be clear from the questions in the spoiler though): + Show Spoiler + CPU: i5-3570K ->maybe without the K, but it is not much of a difference in price Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V Pro RAM: Mushkin DIMM 8GB DDR3-1600 Kit -> one of the best timings for this price -> I know I wont need 8GB, but as memory is so cheap nowadays.....why not! GPU: GTX660 -> After choosing all the other pieces, I found myself being left with around 200-250€. I am not too much into GPU's, but after compairing a few of them i found this one to be a reasonable choice. Hard Drive: Intel 330 series 2,5" SSD 60GB (OS + drivers etc) Western Digital WD10EARX (Data) -> Not sure about that though, i dont really know what to look on in terms of hard drives, like how much speed do I need etc. Cooling: Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E -> The cooler should really not be loud but still keep everything cool over a few hours of gaming. I dont really know if this one is enough, but I think it should be. Main Adapter: Corsair CX430 V2 -> Checking my requirements, I calculated around 300-350W for this setup. This adapter supports 500W, just to be sure. Case: I dont know what to really look for, I only know I need ATX and a midi-tower should be enough. Is there anything to watch out for besides the look? I heard Coolermaster, Thermaltake and Enermax produce solid stuff. Any other advices? What I ask you guys to do: Tell me if this build is reasonable and satisfies my needs. I hope everything I put value on is clear after reading this post, if not feel free to ask me more questions of course. I would really appreciate your help, suggestions, criticism and discovery of weaknesses on my build. Regards, Vermilion
CX430v2 is a 430w unit with the lower three year warranty.. it says so in the name and it's a low-end unit as well. The power supply is the heart of the system so if you want longevity, you should consider taking the wasted money out of the motherboard and investing it into a 400w 80plus gold unit.
Most of Coolermaster and Thermaltake cases are medicore flashy gaming shit and Enermax barely makes cases. If you want a silent PC, get a sound dampening case like a Corsair 550D, Fractal Design Define R4, or Antec P280.
Buying more expensive parts does not equate to being future proof. This logic is completely flawed so I'm not sure what research led you into believing this. LGA1155 is dead by next year since Haswell will be using LGA1150 and the two aren't compatible with each other. PCI-E 3.0 isn't going anywhere for like another three years at least.
Getting an ASUS P8Z77-V Pro is a complete waste of money if you aren't overclocking or going to utilize any of the features the board comes with. If you aren't overclocking, get a H77 or B75 board.
K suffix processors are also for overclocking, so again its a waste of money if you are too scared to overclock. Intel does not cover overclocking unless you pay extra for their Performance Tuning Protection Plan.
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Hello
I’m looking to build a PC and I have some questions about what I should buy. Any answers are highly appreciated!
Budget: 8500 Danish kroner / 900 British pounds / 1100 Euro / 1450 US dollars
Resolution: 1400 x 900
Usage: Gaming and streaming
Upgrade cycle: 4 years
When I want to build: I plan to build it within the next week
Overclocking: I plan to overclock. I have no experience with it but friends have recommended it several times so I will look into it when I get the PC.
Operating system: Yes, I need to buy a new operating system
I don’t plan on additional GPU for SLI or Crossfire
Where I buy from: I live in Denmark and will probably buy from whatever sites are the cheapest. My main site will probably be http://www.komplett.dk as their prices are low but I will not be able to get all parts from there so if you know any good sites in Europe please let me know!
You are very welcome to recommend a build but a friend of mine recommended this build to me:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/buyers-guide/2012/08/31/pc-hardware-buyer-s-guide-august-2012/3
Is this a good build for the price?
Another friend said I should avoid AMD cards altogether and only buy Nvidia cards. So I read some info about the AMD Radeon 7870 and apparently people have had major problems using programs like Xsplit and having trouble with running dual monitors with the 7xxx series. So would it be better to get a Nvidia card instead and which one would you recommend?
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On October 04 2012 01:50 skyR wrote:
CX430v2 is a 430w unit with the lower three year warranty.. it says so in the name and it's a low-end unit as well. The power supply is the heart of the system so if you want longevity, you should consider taking the wasted money out of the motherboard and investing it into a 400w 80plus gold unit.
Thanks, I will definately consider this.
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Buying more expensive parts does not equate to being future proof. This logic is completely flawed so I'm not sure what research led you into believing this. LGA1155 is dead by next year since Haswell will be using LGA1150 and the two aren't compatible with each other. PCI-E 3.0 isn't going anywhere for like another three years at least.
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So what do you recommend me to get there?
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Getting an ASUS P8Z77-V Pro is a complete waste of money if you aren't overclocking or going to utilize any of the features the board comes with. If you aren't overclocking, get a H77 or B75 board.
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OK my question now is whether i need to be able to overclock or not. It seems like nowadays most of the people are doing it, but i don't really know in which situations I really need it. If I don't need it, H77 should indeed be sufficient as I just read.
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On October 01 2012 09:09 ellsworth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 00:50 Rannasha wrote:On October 01 2012 00:01 ellsworth wrote:
i also have a question for the thread. am i just used to poor people cuz im american? how do ppl all afford these machines? i mean most responsible adults who make money dont play video games all the time. there was an economic recession...r most kuddies living with mom where she subsidizes the internet electricity and food? or r u all just landed and estsblished rich boys? Spending $1000 on a nice computer every 2 years isn't really a major expenditure for most people that have a steady job and a reasonable spending pattern. Laugh out loud. I bet you have an i7 and sli 570s. You recommend that the average gamer buy a 1000 dollar build because anything less is...well...less. User was temp banned for this post.
Its amazing what you can buy if you don't drink or smoke, eat at home instead of going out to eat overpriced food. And know how to min/max outside of video gaming.
Yes, Im seriously stating that video games do in fact teach viable life skills.
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What is your budget?
My budget for the computer is from $600-$700.
What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming (SC2/Diablo3/Dayz/HON/Dota2/borderlands2 ) and some programming if that changes anything? But I would also like it to handle the new generation games if possible?
What is your upgrade cycle?
Probably 2+ years.
When do you plan on building it?
I plan on building it either this week or next week.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg, Microcenter, NCIX.US and wherever it is cheap I suppose :D?
I already have some parts that I am for sure going to get because they are good deals (unless there are even better deals that you can find :D).
i3 - 3220 @ Microcenter: $99.99. LINK
the I3 - 3225 @ Microcenter is also at $129.99 but I'm not sure which one is better. . .
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM: $69.99. LINK
Again many thanks for the suggestions and help!
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