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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 03 2012 20:36 GMT
#24921
On October 04 2012 05:17 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 09:09 ellsworth wrote:
On October 01 2012 00:50 Rannasha wrote:
On October 01 2012 00:01 ellsworth wrote:
i also have a question for the thread. am i just used to poor people cuz im american? how do ppl all afford these machines? i mean most responsible adults who make money dont play video games all the time. there was an economic recession...r most kuddies living with mom where she subsidizes the internet electricity and food? or r u all just landed and estsblished rich boys?


Spending $1000 on a nice computer every 2 years isn't really a major expenditure for most people that have a steady job and a reasonable spending pattern.


Laugh out loud. I bet you have an i7 and sli 570s. You recommend that the average gamer buy a 1000 dollar build because anything less is...well...less.

User was temp banned for this post.


Its amazing what you can buy if you don't drink or smoke, eat at home instead of going out to eat overpriced food. And know how to min/max outside of video gaming.

Yes, Im seriously stating that video games do in fact teach viable life skills.


I thought most people knew this? The few that don't know this are the ones that generally suck at games?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 03 2012 21:33 GMT
#24922
Older people. I realize my audience on teamliquid is mostly under 40, though.

Also not sure where the electricity comment came from.

Assuming I pay 9 cents per kilowatt hour (Connecticut). Discounting my bitcoin mining. My PC uses around 350 watts (7970 around 200 watts, CPU 50 watts while streaming, 30 watts for extraneous stuff, 30 watts for monitor, rest is based off of having a gold rated PSU (not 100 percent efficiency of course). Usage around 6 hours a day, or about 2.1 kwh per day.

Means I spend around $5.50 per month running my computer. That about right? 9 cents is a bit on the high estimate as well. Also I dont even game all 6 hours so I mean, figure between $3 to $5 a month.

When i wasnt mining I was paying around $72 a month in electricity in the fall and spring months with two people using computers most of the day. And Im all but certain most of that was the refrigerator.
twitch.tv/medrea
m1rk3
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada412 Posts
October 03 2012 22:00 GMT
#24923
Hey skyR, do you have a listing of your build?
For the Dominion!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 03 2012 22:05 GMT
#24924
It's a 2500k with a 460.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
October 04 2012 02:47 GMT
#24925
So, I decided not to wait for another 1-2 months. Of course, these will drop in price over time, but I figured it's not worth waiting.

Here's my plan as of now. I have already bought CPU, motherboard, optical drive, and power supply. The parts that I am most unsure about and would like your feedback are storage and the case.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Microcenter CPU+MB bundle deal)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Green 1TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.28 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower XT 675W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB - OEM ($14.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $929.46

Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 04 2012 03:15 GMT
#24926
You're missing a heatsink.

Antec Nine Hundred is severely outdated in terms of case features.. there are much better cases for around $100.

Thermaltake Toughpower XT wasn't a good purchase.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
October 04 2012 03:30 GMT
#24927
On October 04 2012 12:15 skyR wrote:
You're missing a heatsink.

Antec Nine Hundred is severely outdated in terms of case features.. there are much better cases for around $100.

Thermaltake Toughpower XT wasn't a good purchase.


Could you recommend a case that is around 50-100 range? I saw that Antec P280 had good reviews, but I didn't think I culd afford to spend over $100 on a case.

I didn't include a heatsink for the time being because I wasn't 100% sure if I was going to overclock or not. I would be very grateful though if you could recommend one that is good value. I would really like to stay under 1000 total.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 04 2012 03:47 GMT
#24928
Toughpower XT 675W is pretty good, way overkill even for SLI, but very high quality. It's the base CWT DSG that Corsair souped up slightly for the old HX750 and HX850. At $60 I think it's fine.

Adding an aftermarket heatsink later is a pain, so you may as well do it now. Just get a generic tower with a 120mm fan like a Xigmatek Gaia for $20:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

For a case, there are a lot of options. You can find the P280 for $100:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65170&promoid=1375

If you don't care about noise levels, Corsair 300R should be nice for $60:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66063&promoid=1381
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
October 04 2012 04:29 GMT
#24929
On October 04 2012 12:47 Myrmidon wrote:
Toughpower XT 675W is pretty good, way overkill even for SLI, but very high quality. It's the base CWT DSG that Corsair souped up slightly for the old HX750 and HX850. At $60 I think it's fine.

Adding an aftermarket heatsink later is a pain, so you may as well do it now. Just get a generic tower with a 120mm fan like a Xigmatek Gaia for $20:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

For a case, there are a lot of options. You can find the P280 for $100:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65170&promoid=1375

If you don't care about noise levels, Corsair 300R should be nice for $60:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66063&promoid=1381


Oh, wow. That is a good price for P280. Thank you! Specifically what advantages does this case have over other ones like Antec 900?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 04 2012 04:31 GMT
#24930
Antec 900 is like ten years old. It lacks tool-less features, cutouts, routing holes, and so on. P280 is also part of their Performance One series which are sound dampening cases.
FruityTutty
Profile Joined October 2012
2 Posts
October 04 2012 05:04 GMT
#24931
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 04 2012 05:22 FruityTutty wrote:
What is your budget?
My budget for the computer is from $600-$700.

What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080


What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming (SC2/Diablo3/Dayz/HON/Dota2/borderlands2 ) and some programming if that changes anything? But I would also like it to handle the new generation games if possible?


What is your upgrade cycle?
Probably 2+ years.


When do you plan on building it?
I plan on building it either this week or next week.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No


Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No


Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg, Microcenter, NCIX.US and wherever it is cheap I suppose :D?


I already have some parts that I am for sure going to get because they are good deals (unless there are even better deals that you can find :D).

i3 - 3220 @ Microcenter: $99.99. LINK

the I3 - 3225 @ Microcenter is also at $129.99 but I'm not sure which one is better. . .

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM: $69.99. LINK


Again many thanks for the suggestions and help!





Could anyone help me on my build ?
Another question, microcenter is having a combo deal with mobo's and processors.
Assuming that the i3-3225 is in my build, is the asrock z77 better than the asrock h77m?
From what I understand they're both the same except the h77m you can't overclock.
Both are at the same price ;o

Thanks for helping!
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 05:16:12
October 04 2012 05:15 GMT
#24932
On October 04 2012 13:31 skyR wrote:
Antec 900 is like ten years old. It lacks tool-less features, cutouts, routing holes, and so on. P280 is also part of their Performance One series which are sound dampening cases.


I see. Thank you for letting me know. The reason I was leaning toward the 900 is that it was still getting extremely stellar feedback on newegg despite being an old case, and a friend of mine told me that it is the only case he ever uses to build computers for himself and his family.

Tempted to buy that P280 sometime within the next few days. I just gotta make sure that I can live with its size.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 06:27:56
October 04 2012 06:27 GMT
#24933
Antec 900 and 300 have an amazing pedigree as being extremely solid cases made almost completely out of metal.

When I bought my Antec 300, Im pretty sure we hadn't reelected Bush for a second term, I think it was 2002. It's still going strong. Not even a blemish.

That being said, it is outdated. In ten years, engineering has caught up. And when everything is said and done, cases don't need to be made super stalwart unless someone is planning on building dirtbike jumps out of PC cases or something. But if you WERE building dirtbike jumps out of PC cases Antec 300 or 900 is totally the way to go.
twitch.tv/medrea
wajd
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
240 Posts
October 04 2012 15:26 GMT
#24934
On October 03 2012 22:48 wajd wrote:
Know nothing about computer spec, but is the info below enough to handle SC?

Intel Atom D525 1.80 GHz - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150 Graphics Card - HDMI Zotac ZBOX ZBOXSD-ID13 Nettop Computer - Intel Atom D525 1.80 GHz


I guess a better question would be, what would be the minimum requirements to run SC smoothly?
I don't mean whats listed on the game box though, since a patch can easily negate that... :/
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 17:42:43
October 04 2012 17:37 GMT
#24935
Which memory moduls would you recommend with Asus Sabertooth Z77 mobo and Intel i5 3570k cpu?
Stork protoss legend
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 17:54:03
October 04 2012 17:50 GMT
#24936
On October 05 2012 00:26 wajd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 22:48 wajd wrote:
Know nothing about computer spec, but is the info below enough to handle SC?

Intel Atom D525 1.80 GHz - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150 Graphics Card - HDMI Zotac ZBOX ZBOXSD-ID13 Nettop Computer - Intel Atom D525 1.80 GHz

I guess a better question would be, what would be the minimum requirements to run SC smoothly?
I don't mean whats listed on the game box though, since a patch can easily negate that... :/

It will run SC smoothly, but I think you're talking about SC2. I don't think you want to play with single-digit fps on lowest settings.

Desired fps varies from person to person, but generally you should find a modern non-Atom Intel processor. For graphics, integrated HD 2500 (all the integrated Graphics Media Accelerators are older and worse) or better is okay for lowest settings at most resolutions, or any modern graphics card from AMD or Nvidia. Some are just plain bad values and pretty pathetic like GT 610, but they will work.

On October 05 2012 02:37 InDaHouse wrote:
Which memory moduls would you recommend with Asus Sabertooth Z77 mobo and Intel i5 3570k cpu?

Doesn't really matter much, as long as it works.

Anything that's DDR3 and has enough total memory, with operating voltage rated no more than 1.5V. If you're paranoid and want something tested to work rather than just almost certain to work, check the memory support list on Asus's website for the motherboard. If you're chasing after the last couple percent of performance or overclock memory for fun, try the low-profile Samsung memory.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
October 04 2012 19:58 GMT
#24937
What do you think about 660ti vs 7950 as they are selling at same price right now? A lot of people I've talked to have recommended nvidia, but it looks like 7950 gets higher benchmark results.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 04 2012 20:13 GMT
#24938
When you are asking for recommendations, you have to consider that most people are bias towards certain manufacturers. And it isn't a huge secret that most people are bias towards Nvidia.

7950 is the better card.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
October 04 2012 21:17 GMT
#24939
On October 05 2012 05:13 skyR wrote:
When you are asking for recommendations, you have to consider that most people are bias towards certain manufacturers. And it isn't a huge secret that most people are bias towards Nvidia.

7950 is the better card.

I got the Sapphire version of this card, factory overclocked to 950mhz, an absolute beast. Very good cooling with a lot of further potential for overclocking. Loving it so far
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#24940
7950 matches against gtx670, 660 ti is supposed to be against 7870. So yeah, the choice is obvious. Nvidia is just a bit poor at adjusting prices.
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