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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 26 2012 13:01 GMT
#22981
On June 26 2012 21:02 Medrea wrote:
nVidia had an edge in tesselation technology at one point so in order to exploit this edge they had Crytek make the jersey barriers in Crysis 2 way over tesselated in order to intentionally drop everyones frames per second down, but AMD card's moreso. They also added roiling tesselated water to areas with no need for water in order to do the same thing.

THAT is a problem and a plague in the PC industry.

Auto overclocking? Not so much. Also 3D gaming is retarded. And you dont need a 680 to get benefits from 120hz monitor anyway.


Yeah, deliberately incompatible games suck. They hurt the majority of consumers more than anything. Hell, Dragon Age 2 was one of the reasons I no longer trust Bioware.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 13:28:16
June 26 2012 13:27 GMT
#22982
On June 26 2012 21:56 Womwomwom wrote:
So what do you propose to do about it? The end result is the same: one GPU does worse than the other.


Publicize it. Shit like that hurts everyone.


On June 26 2012 22:01 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 21:02 Medrea wrote:
nVidia had an edge in tesselation technology at one point so in order to exploit this edge they had Crytek make the jersey barriers in Crysis 2 way over tesselated in order to intentionally drop everyones frames per second down, but AMD card's moreso. They also added roiling tesselated water to areas with no need for water in order to do the same thing.

THAT is a problem and a plague in the PC industry.

Auto overclocking? Not so much. Also 3D gaming is retarded. And you dont need a 680 to get benefits from 120hz monitor anyway.


Yeah, deliberately incompatible games suck. They hurt the majority of consumers more than anything. Hell, Dragon Age 2 was one of the reasons I no longer trust Bioware.


I never played Dragon Age 2 but holy shit that was a trainwreck. Saw it coming a mile wide since the preview screens of DA2. Everyone was yelling at them to not release such an awful looking game but they did it anyway.
twitch.tv/medrea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 26 2012 15:18 GMT
#22983
Pffft, BioWare's been dead to me since Neverwinter Nights. On a side note, sometimes I get confused when people say "3D gaming" because it takes a while for me to imagine somebody wanting to do that, so I first think of 3D rendering vs. 2D sprite-based drawings.


GTX 680 was popular by reviewers because the end result was being faster in games, using less power, and making less noise than HD 7970. I don't see what's not to like, unless you need to do something that the 7970 is actually better at.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 26 2012 15:25 GMT
#22984
On June 27 2012 00:18 Myrmidon wrote:
Pffft, BioWare's been dead to me since Neverwinter Nights. On a side note, sometimes I get confused when people say "3D gaming" because it takes a while for me to imagine somebody wanting to do that, so I first think of 3D rendering vs. 2D sprite-based drawings.


GTX 680 was popular by reviewers because the end result was being faster in games, using less power, and making less noise than HD 7970. I don't see what's not to like, unless you need to do something that the 7970 is actually better at.


Oh, good, I'm not the only one who thinks of the difference between super mario and quake, rather than quake and headache mode, when that silly term is used.

I'd rather dump extra GPU power into better graphics or better resolution, not into making it physically painful to play the games.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 15:51:42
June 26 2012 15:50 GMT
#22985
Only gamers care about how well a graphics card plays video games. Im interested in what the card can do the other 16 hours Im not using it. Honestly I dont play games that require GPU performance very often, just whatever is trending and friends are playing.



Thats 244p for you folks. Yeah bet you are all super jealous I got a 7970 so I can play games in 244p. I bet it burns so good. Im drinking it in. So delicious.

TLB song:

+ Show Spoiler +


Favorite boss song ever.
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 26 2012 16:08 GMT
#22986
I'd sound like all kinds of idiot to snark about what somebody uses their horsepower for, when the main purpose of my enthusiast setup is dicking around with it. I play every game I can on max settings, but most of the games I actually play regularly don't have tech demo syndrome.

Besides, <3 Medrea, especially when the one guy said you didn't know anything about PSU requirements for running multiple GPUs.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 16:20:50
June 26 2012 16:20 GMT
#22987
He was right though when it came to when I built it originally. I lucked the fuck out listening to someone else's advice and picked up a high quality gold PSU when it was on sale super cheap.

Then I came here and said something half jokingly half serious about PSU's not delivering their advertised wattage (my mistake was placing Antec too close to that statement) and SkyR really came down hard on me. So I decided to learn more, a lot more.

Most of the games I play require absolutely brutal amounts of skill, or at least have a place where its able to be displayed. At times this indeed requires a pretty incredible setup
twitch.tv/medrea
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
June 26 2012 20:50 GMT
#22988
Been having a problem with removing my old drivers

basicly i removed my hd6870's drivers, using driversweeper, but it doesn't want to get rid of everything... still have a bunch of stuff installed, don't know how to get rid of it TT

Of course it's causing mayhem with my gpu now it's in place..
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
June 26 2012 20:55 GMT
#22989
On June 27 2012 05:50 Rachnar wrote:
Been having a problem with removing my old drivers

basicly i removed my hd6870's drivers, using driversweeper, but it doesn't want to get rid of everything... still have a bunch of stuff installed, don't know how to get rid of it TT

Of course it's causing mayhem with my gpu now it's in place..


Did you do it while in Safe Mode?

It worked for me.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 21:34:14
June 26 2012 20:57 GMT
#22990
Going to give a try now then

still not working....

damn second gpu on my gtx590 is always maxing out a 100% usage while the first is only at 40% in games like metro and sc2, but working flawlessly in crysis 2 though....
goign to test a few other games
edit : seems fixed for metro now though, going to test out for sc2.... this seems so weird
edit again : well everything seems ok even thoguh old AMD drivers are still installed but can't be uninstalled, beh, guess it's ok....
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
.DrK
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada326 Posts
June 26 2012 21:36 GMT
#22991
how are the ssd prices? i was going to buy one a few months ago but there was a price inflation due to floods so i renounced in buying one.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2012 21:42 GMT
#22992
SSD prices were never affected by the flooding and has always been going down... it's less than a $ per gb now.
Thent
Profile Joined December 2010
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 04:53:28
June 27 2012 02:25 GMT
#22993
What is your budget?

~$1000 (I might be able to go up to $1100)

What is your resolution?

1920x1200

What are you using it for?

Running and streaming SC2 smoothly at 720p

What is your upgrade cycle?

2+ years

When do you plan on building it?

Over the next 2 months

Do you plan on overclocking?

Possibly

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes

Where are you buying your parts from?

Seattle, WA, USA, so Newegg or Fry's


I'm a noob at this stuff, so any help is appreciated


EDIT: My friend's been gracious enough to give me his Radeon HD 5830; this would be a good enough card, right?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 27 2012 02:36 GMT
#22994
On June 27 2012 11:25 AgMaxHammer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?

~$1000

What is your resolution?

1920x1200

What are you using it for?

Running and streaming SC2 smoothly at 720p

What is your upgrade cycle?

2+ years

When do you plan on building it?

Over the next 2-6 months

Do you plan on overclocking?

Possibly

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes

Where are you buying your parts from?

Seattle, WA, USA, so Newegg or Fry's


I'm a noob at this stuff, so any help is appreciated

Come back when you plan to buy, as we can't predict future prices.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Thent
Profile Joined December 2010
United States35 Posts
June 27 2012 03:45 GMT
#22995
On June 27 2012 11:36 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 11:25 AgMaxHammer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?

~$1000

What is your resolution?

1920x1200

What are you using it for?

Running and streaming SC2 smoothly at 720p

What is your upgrade cycle?

2+ years

When do you plan on building it?

Over the next 2-6 months

Do you plan on overclocking?

Possibly

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes

Where are you buying your parts from?

Seattle, WA, USA, so Newegg or Fry's


I'm a noob at this stuff, so any help is appreciated

Come back when you plan to buy, as we can't predict future prices.

Let's say that I'm buying the parts today, then. I'm not getting it all at once, and I probably won't take too much longer than 2 months to buy everything.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 27 2012 04:55 GMT
#22996
2 Months is a wide berth when prices and products are changing by the week.
twitch.tv/medrea
findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
June 27 2012 05:34 GMT
#22997
On June 27 2012 12:45 AgMaxHammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 11:36 iTzSnypah wrote:
On June 27 2012 11:25 AgMaxHammer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?

~$1000

What is your resolution?

1920x1200

What are you using it for?

Running and streaming SC2 smoothly at 720p

What is your upgrade cycle?

2+ years

When do you plan on building it?

Over the next 2-6 months

Do you plan on overclocking?

Possibly

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes

Where are you buying your parts from?

Seattle, WA, USA, so Newegg or Fry's


I'm a noob at this stuff, so any help is appreciated

Come back when you plan to buy, as we can't predict future prices.

Let's say that I'm buying the parts today, then. I'm not getting it all at once, and I probably won't take too much longer than 2 months to buy everything.



try copying my build? seems like my budget is about the same as yours, and so is our usage for it. i'm new to this stuff too, but i may overclock in the future. I'm not going to be using SLI or crossfire though.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=20616646

i dont have a dvd burner or case there. if you're streaming a lot you might want to up the CPU to i7, and if you're not overclocking get a cheaper motherboard.
Cocoabean
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada90 Posts
June 27 2012 06:29 GMT
#22998
Hey guys, about to make a new rig, and just wanted opinions on the parts I chose. If anyone sees anything here that might not be the best option, let me know please:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k $230
Cooler: Corsair H60 $70
Ram: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 16GB $107
Mobo: Gigabyte Z77-D3H $128
SSD: SanDisk Extreme 120GB $120
Power: Seasonic M12II 620w Modular $92
GPU: Asus DirectCU 2 GTX 670 $420
Case: Shinobi mid-tower $70
OS: $95

Really want to get a computer that can adequately live stream SC2 at 480-720p quality (have 2.5mb ul internet). Anyone see issues with my build?

Thanks for any help you guys can provide =)
www.twitch.tv/cocoabeans
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
June 27 2012 06:44 GMT
#22999
On June 27 2012 15:29 Cocoabean wrote:
Hey guys, about to make a new rig, and just wanted opinions on the parts I chose. If anyone sees anything here that might not be the best option, let me know please:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k $230
Cooler: Corsair H60 $70
Ram: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 16GB $107
Mobo: Gigabyte Z77-D3H $128
SSD: SanDisk Extreme 120GB $120
Power: Seasonic M12II 620w Modular $92
GPU: Asus DirectCU 2 GTX 670 $420
Case: Shinobi mid-tower $70
OS: $95

Really want to get a computer that can adequately live stream SC2 at 480-720p quality (have 2.5mb ul internet). Anyone see issues with my build?

Thanks for any help you guys can provide =)

Closed loop water cooling is horrible. I urge you to reconsider. Aside from that, meh, you can save some money, whatevs. What do you need 16GB of ram for anyway?
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Cocoabean
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada90 Posts
June 27 2012 06:48 GMT
#23000
On June 27 2012 15:44 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 15:29 Cocoabean wrote:
Hey guys, about to make a new rig, and just wanted opinions on the parts I chose. If anyone sees anything here that might not be the best option, let me know please:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k $230
Cooler: Corsair H60 $70
Ram: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 16GB $107
Mobo: Gigabyte Z77-D3H $128
SSD: SanDisk Extreme 120GB $120
Power: Seasonic M12II 620w Modular $92
GPU: Asus DirectCU 2 GTX 670 $420
Case: Shinobi mid-tower $70
OS: $95

Really want to get a computer that can adequately live stream SC2 at 480-720p quality (have 2.5mb ul internet). Anyone see issues with my build?

Thanks for any help you guys can provide =)

Closed loop water cooling is horrible. I urge you to reconsider. Aside from that, meh, you can save some money, whatevs. What do you need 16GB of ram for anyway?


Can you explain why closed loop is horrible? As for the RAM, I'll probably scale it back to 8GB and either save the cash or re-allocate it elsewhere. My budget pre-tax is ~$1400-1500.
www.twitch.tv/cocoabeans
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