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yrba1
United States325 Posts
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On June 15 2012 06:48 yrba1 wrote: When a motherboard says it has an Integrated Graphics Processor such as the ASUS P8H61-M, does that mean it doesn't support dedicated graphics card such as the Sapphire Radeon 6870 or it does but bottlenecks it? I'm trying to get a MoBo under $100 but I want it to be able to maximize it's potential to use it's GPU and CPU Neither. It means it can use the graphics integrated into the CPU's silicon. Integrated graphics does not affect a dedicated card. If you install a dedicated card, you plug your monitor into it instead of into the motherboard video outputs, install drivers, and use it. Integrated graphics gets disabled. | ||
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yrba1
United States325 Posts
On June 15 2012 07:01 Wabbit wrote: Neither. It means it can use the graphics integrated into the CPU's silicon. Integrated graphics does not affect a dedicated card. If you install a dedicated card, you plug your monitor into it instead of into the motherboard video outputs, install drivers, and use it. Integrated graphics gets disabled. Alright I see why the Radeon 6870 has its own DVI and HDMI port. Thanks man! :D I was originally going to get a GIGABYTE MoBo but from what the hardware failures I've heard I steered away from buying their products. | ||
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Kalista
Canada2 Posts
I am trying to build my first computer. I have been reading up and hopefully have an okay selection but would like imput one what I can do to make it better. I am trying to build under about $1K. My OS is windows7 and my resolution is 1920x1080. I am looking to play all games fairly well not just SC2 and would like to be able to stream as well. I do not overclock now so my guess is I would not with this new computer. Here is what I was thinking of getting its all links to newegg where I would buy although I can buy from other sites if its better but I liked most of prices there. Motherboard: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135307 CPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116505 GPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127663&Tpk=pci- 3.0 RAM: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233202 HDD: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 SSD: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226236 PSU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096 Case: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023 Some notes are that I do not care about the looks of the case or care if its cheap really long as it does its job. Secondly if possible I would prefer nvidia and I like to use 2 monitors. Lastly I have no idea what I am doing with the MB and in general. I have just been trying to read up and figure out on my own what to get so any help is great. Thanks! Kalista | ||
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findingthelimit
Hong Kong219 Posts
On June 15 2012 00:02 DONTPANIC wrote: Build is not optimal. Cheaper RAM, Cheaper HDD, Z77 Mobo (to go with your ivybridge cpu) and an HD 7850. I was able to get a z77 mobo and 3570k for $250 total at microcenter. so keep searching. Edit: That's a way over priced SSD too. So I did some research and saw that there are two SSDs with different prices, both samsung... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147134 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163 can someone tell me what the difference between a normal SSD and a "desktop upgrade kit" is, please? Also, getting a z77 motherboard + 3570k for 250 USD seems crazy! Do you mean I have to physically go to a store for that to happen? I don't see any deals close to being that awesome in either newegg or the microcenter website. | ||
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EdenPLusDucky
571 Posts
On June 15 2012 09:10 findingthelimit wrote: So I did some research and saw that there are two SSDs with different prices, both samsung... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147134 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163 can someone tell me what the difference between a normal SSD and a "desktop upgrade kit" is, please? Also, getting a z77 motherboard + 3570k for 250 USD seems crazy! Do you mean I have to physically go to a store for that to happen? I don't see any deals close to being that awesome in either newegg or the microcenter website. You didn't read the entire product page, it says: Package Contents: Samsung 830 Series Solid-State Drive, Samsung SSD Magician software and manual CD, Norton Ghost 15.0 software CD, quick user manual, 2.5-inch to 3.5-inch bracket, screws, SATA data cable, and SATA power cable. compared to Package Contents: SSD Drive, SSD Magician 3.1, and documentation for the 830 series | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On June 15 2012 04:33 wussleeQ wrote: Does anyone know why my computer isn't booting or turning on at all when I plug in my video card? Worked fine for a day and now it refuses to boot with it plugged in. I have this video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363 and this PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 My guess would be not enough power? But it's weird because it worked fine for a day and a half... Hmm... I realize now its my videocard that is the problem. Guess I'll RMA | ||
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DONTPANIC
United States340 Posts
On June 15 2012 09:10 findingthelimit wrote: So I did some research and saw that there are two SSDs with different prices, both samsung... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147134 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163 can someone tell me what the difference between a normal SSD and a "desktop upgrade kit" is, please? Also, getting a z77 motherboard + 3570k for 250 USD seems crazy! Do you mean I have to physically go to a store for that to happen? I don't see any deals close to being that awesome in either newegg or the microcenter website. Seeing as how you're not building for 3 months I think you should keep checking prices till you are ready. If a crazy deal like microcenter had comes up that's a good time to buy. As far as SSDs are concerned... http://www.anandtech.com/bench/SSD/65 That has benchmarks you can compare different SSDs for price:performance. There are super fast SSDs. You might wat to go with a cheaper one if you're trying to save money. Or just get a 500GB 32MB cache 7200rpm HDD and see if that's fast enough for you. (my guess is that it will be). | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
6GB-8GB of RAM $200-300 Video Card Solid Computer Case Basically, if you guys can show me a desktop build that can allow me to run and stream SC2 at Maximum specifications at 1600X900 resolution, I would be most grateful. I'm trying to budget less than 1000 USD. If you guys can help me, then go ahead and fill me in on the rest of the hardware components I will need (IE Mobo, Case, PSU, etc.). But if I am extremely lucky I may not need to shell out cash on the parts I just mentioned. P.S. Please message me the build if you guys can help me. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On June 15 2012 16:42 Enders116 wrote: Hi guys, can anyone help me build a computer that would be good for streaming SC2 at Max Specifications. I am willing to buy the following: i7 8 core processor 6GB-8GB of RAM $200-300 Video Card Solid Computer Case Basically, if you guys can show me a desktop build that can allow me to run and stream SC2 at Maximum specifications at 1600X900 resolution, I would be most grateful. I'm trying to budget less than 1000 USD. If you guys can help me, then go ahead and fill me in on the rest of the hardware components I will need (IE Mobo, Case, PSU, etc.). But if I am extremely lucky I may not need to shell out cash on the parts I just mentioned. P.S. Please message me the build if you guys can help me. There is no such thing as an 8 core i7 processor. There is: i7-2600 i7-2600K i7-2700K i7-3770 i7-3770K i7-3820 Which have 4 cores i7-3930K i7-3960X Which have 6 cores | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
On June 15 2012 16:47 iTzSnypah wrote: There is no such thing as an 8 core i7 processor. There is: i7-2600 i7-2600K i7-2700K i7-3770 i7-3770K i7-3820 Which have 4 cores i7-3930K i7-3960X Which have 6 cores Let me go back and edit that post, I actually already selected a processor, I believe it was the 2700k | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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DONTPANIC
United States340 Posts
On June 15 2012 16:42 Enders116 wrote: Hi guys, can anyone help me build a computer that would be good for streaming SC2 at Max Specifications. I am willing to buy the following: 6GB-8GB of RAM $200-300 Video Card Solid Computer Case Basically, if you guys can show me a desktop build that can allow me to run and stream SC2 at Maximum specifications at 1600X900 resolution, I would be most grateful. I'm trying to budget less than 1000 USD. If you guys can help me, then go ahead and fill me in on the rest of the hardware components I will need (IE Mobo, Case, PSU, etc.). But if I am extremely lucky I may not need to shell out cash on the parts I just mentioned. P.S. Please message me the build if you guys can help me. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130647 Mobo. PCI slot is 16x rather than the cheaper boards that have the slower speed 4x $120.00 Processor You're unlikely to max out the i5 3750k streaming sc2 but if you want to spend the money an i7 will surely do everything you want it to. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 i5 3570k $230 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501 i7 3770k $360 If you can get to a microcenter the prices are much cheaper. (In store pickup only.). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 Cooler for CPU GPU HD7850 or HD7870 $240 - $310 Either card will provide way more than you'll need. There are tons to choose from. They're all very good. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066 This is the case everyone likes. It's quality and price are bothe very good. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 PowerSupply. Easy choice. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231308 Any ram will do. Just need 8 GB ddr3 1.5v for around $40 This has pointless heatspreaders but they sponsor the GSL. | ||
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
On June 15 2012 17:53 Shauni wrote: Intel must be happy now that people see hyperthreading as extra cores... I would think AMD would be more happy about this. If you think hyperthreading counts as an actual core, you're also probably the same type of person who would buy an AMD processor for linked reasons. | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On June 16 2012 03:50 jacosajh wrote: I would think AMD would be more happy about this. If you think hyperthreading counts as an actual core, you're also probably the same type of person who would buy an AMD processor for linked reasons. People who think a hyperthreaded core counts as two cores probably don't know what hyperthreading is. On the other hand, half of a Bulldozer module (also Piledriver, etc.) actually is a functional x86-64 execution unit, so it really may be fair to call that a core. I'm not sure about what makes AMD happy, but it probably is true that uneducated buyers who don't know what hypertheading is, may also be unduly swayed by AMD's large core counts and high clock speeds. On June 16 2012 04:03 iKill[ShocK] wrote: Plans for the future? Moar cores More stream processors, if they had their way and could make heterogeneous CPU / GPU computing something widely usable. | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
I am very new to this, can someone recommend me a ~100$ GPU ? | ||
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kaifragrance
Canada50 Posts
On June 16 2012 05:18 Quasimoto3000 wrote: Was wondering... I am very new to this, can someone recommend me a ~100$ GPU ? HD7750 is pretty good at that price point. HD5770 is okay also, but I'd go with the 7750. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On June 16 2012 04:03 iKill[ShocK] wrote: Plans for the future? Moar cores ![[image loading]](http://analyticd.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/COREZ.jpg) I thought it was silly even back when Duo and X2 versions came of processors, and it's even worse now. Not much has progressed since AMD 64 days in terms of single threaded performance, Intel is just shrinking and developing minor gains in IPC and watt consumption for each generation, and AMD has been at a complete standstill since then. Adding more cores is just a (stupid) workaround, a desktop PC does not equal a server. Sure you could argue that you might need two cores or perhaps even four for modern gaming and applications but that's just because software developers are only recently forcing themselves to program for more than one core because of this standstill. No major breakthrough has been made in like 10 years, it'll be interesting to see if Haswell changes this with the newer instruction methods, but I'm not so sure. Or maybe the line AMD is pushing for with the GPU and CPU working closer together, with the GPU handling floating point operations... physics and stuff like that. But from what I've read is that if Haswell is displaying what's promised, this effort will be stupid. | ||
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