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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
-iNko
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania160 Posts
June 12 2012 11:44 GMT
#22621
Hey TL, i wanna build a new pc for myself. My goal is to be able to stream 'Guild Wars 2' game with best quality with no delay / lag.

Best system requirements for gw2 i found on google:
+ Show Spoiler +

INTEL CPU Core 2 Quad Q6400 2.13GHz
AMD CPU Phenom 9650 Quad-Core

Nvidia GPU GeForce GTS 450 2GB DDR3
AMD GPU Radeon HD 5670 1024MB

RAM 4 GB
OS Win 7 64
Direct X DX 10
HDD Space 25 GB


I need help with picking motherboard + cpu + graphics card..

Heres what i come up with by myself atm:

Motherboard:
+ Show Spoiler +

Asus Sabertooth P67 Socket 1155 Motherboard
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-Sabertooth-P67-Socket-1155-Motherboard-/200769803992?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA&hash=item2ebed016d8#ht_2438wt_1396


One of these processors:
+ Show Spoiler +

Intel Core i5 2550K
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i5-2550K-3-4GHz-6MB-Cache-LGA1155-BX80623I52550K-Retail-Boxed-/261025748363?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item3cc658d58b#ht_2210wt_1396


Intel Core i7 2700K
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2700K-3-5GHz-8MB-Cache-LGA1155-BX80623I72700K-Retail-Boxed-/280882412612?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item4165e57c44#ht_2193wt_1396


Intel Core i7 2600k
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTEL-Core-I7-Processor-I7-2600k-3-40-Ghz-Lga1155-/310402519964?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item48456e939c#ht_500wt_922


As for the graphics card..
+ Show Spoiler +

I currently have this one:
VTX ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/ATI+Radeon+5000+Series+PCI-E/VTX+ATI+Radeon+HD+5770+1024MB+GDDR5+PCI-Express+Graphics+Card+?productId=38291

But i cant find another one like this for crossfire connection, and i dont think it could handle gw2 with best graphics by itself..


So yeah, maybe u guys could help me choose witch CPU should i pick, and maybe suggest what graphics card should i buy? (price range 150-250$)
Or maybe even better totally different motherboard/cpu/ :D
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
June 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#22622
On June 12 2012 20:44 -iNko wrote:
Hey TL, i wanna build a new pc for myself. My goal is to be able to stream 'Guild Wars 2' game with best quality with no delay / lag.

Best system requirements for gw2 i found on google:
+ Show Spoiler +

INTEL CPU Core 2 Quad Q6400 2.13GHz
AMD CPU Phenom 9650 Quad-Core

Nvidia GPU GeForce GTS 450 2GB DDR3
AMD GPU Radeon HD 5670 1024MB

RAM 4 GB
OS Win 7 64
Direct X DX 10
HDD Space 25 GB


I need help with picking motherboard + cpu + graphics card..

Heres what i come up with by myself atm:

Motherboard:
+ Show Spoiler +

Asus Sabertooth P67 Socket 1155 Motherboard
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-Sabertooth-P67-Socket-1155-Motherboard-/200769803992?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA&hash=item2ebed016d8#ht_2438wt_1396


One of these processors:
+ Show Spoiler +

Intel Core i5 2550K
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i5-2550K-3-4GHz-6MB-Cache-LGA1155-BX80623I52550K-Retail-Boxed-/261025748363?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item3cc658d58b#ht_2210wt_1396


Intel Core i7 2700K
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2700K-3-5GHz-8MB-Cache-LGA1155-BX80623I72700K-Retail-Boxed-/280882412612?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item4165e57c44#ht_2193wt_1396


Intel Core i7 2600k
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTEL-Core-I7-Processor-I7-2600k-3-40-Ghz-Lga1155-/310402519964?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item48456e939c#ht_500wt_922


As for the graphics card..
+ Show Spoiler +

I currently have this one:
VTX ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/ATI+Radeon+5000+Series+PCI-E/VTX+ATI+Radeon+HD+5770+1024MB+GDDR5+PCI-Express+Graphics+Card+?productId=38291

But i cant find another one like this for crossfire connection, and i dont think it could handle gw2 with best graphics by itself..


So yeah, maybe u guys could help me choose witch CPU should i pick, and maybe suggest what graphics card should i buy? (price range 150-250$)
Or maybe even better totally different motherboard/cpu/ :D


What is your resolution?
-iNko
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania160 Posts
June 12 2012 12:41 GMT
#22623
On June 12 2012 21:21 Ata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 20:44 -iNko wrote:
Hey TL, i wanna build a new pc for myself. My goal is to be able to stream 'Guild Wars 2' game with best quality with no delay / lag.

Best system requirements for gw2 i found on google:
+ Show Spoiler +

INTEL CPU Core 2 Quad Q6400 2.13GHz
AMD CPU Phenom 9650 Quad-Core

Nvidia GPU GeForce GTS 450 2GB DDR3
AMD GPU Radeon HD 5670 1024MB

RAM 4 GB
OS Win 7 64
Direct X DX 10
HDD Space 25 GB


I need help with picking motherboard + cpu + graphics card..

Heres what i come up with by myself atm:

Motherboard:
+ Show Spoiler +

Asus Sabertooth P67 Socket 1155 Motherboard
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-Sabertooth-P67-Socket-1155-Motherboard-/200769803992?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA&hash=item2ebed016d8#ht_2438wt_1396


One of these processors:
+ Show Spoiler +

Intel Core i5 2550K
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i5-2550K-3-4GHz-6MB-Cache-LGA1155-BX80623I52550K-Retail-Boxed-/261025748363?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item3cc658d58b#ht_2210wt_1396


Intel Core i7 2700K
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2700K-3-5GHz-8MB-Cache-LGA1155-BX80623I72700K-Retail-Boxed-/280882412612?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item4165e57c44#ht_2193wt_1396


Intel Core i7 2600k
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTEL-Core-I7-Processor-I7-2600k-3-40-Ghz-Lga1155-/310402519964?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item48456e939c#ht_500wt_922


As for the graphics card..
+ Show Spoiler +

I currently have this one:
VTX ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/ATI+Radeon+5000+Series+PCI-E/VTX+ATI+Radeon+HD+5770+1024MB+GDDR5+PCI-Express+Graphics+Card+?productId=38291

But i cant find another one like this for crossfire connection, and i dont think it could handle gw2 with best graphics by itself..


So yeah, maybe u guys could help me choose witch CPU should i pick, and maybe suggest what graphics card should i buy? (price range 150-250$)
Or maybe even better totally different motherboard/cpu/ :D


What is your resolution?



1920x1080
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 15:11:42
June 12 2012 14:48 GMT
#22624
GPU: well i guess at your price range you would have to go with 560Ti-448 / 570 or HD7850 / 7870 depending on what is on special.

It might be important to note that if you only care about GW2, they are sponsored by Nvidia (I think) and there seems to be less issues with their gpus than AMDs in the beta.

CPU: If you want to stream at the best quality, it might be worth investing in an i7, but not the 2700k as u can just overclock the 2600k. and u dont want the 2550k at all, you can just get 2500k for cheaper.

MOBO: I dont know

edit: I was looking at the website that you are looking at and noticed the 2700k is cheaper than the 2600k, which is wierd, but i just meant that u should go with the cheaper one.
-iNko
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 17:36:40
June 12 2012 16:21 GMT
#22625
On June 12 2012 23:48 Ata wrote:
GPU: well i guess at your price range you would have to go with 560Ti-448 / 570 or HD7850 / 7870 depending on what is on special.

It might be important to note that if you only care about GW2, they are sponsored by Nvidia (I think) and there seems to be less issues with their gpus than AMDs in the beta.

CPU: If you want to stream at the best quality, it might be worth investing in an i7, but not the 2700k as u can just overclock the 2600k. and u dont want the 2550k at all, you can just get 2500k for cheaper.

MOBO: I dont know

edit: I was looking at the website that you are looking at and noticed the 2700k is cheaper than the 2600k, which is wierd, but i just meant that u should go with the cheaper one.


a friend of mine says i should go for 2500k and overclock it and it will be just as good as 2600k

as for the gpu, same friend says i should wait for gtx 660

also thx for replying to me

EDIT:
what if i would get a good motherboard+cpu, and leave my old gpu (vtx radepm jd 5770), could i stream gw2 in best quality?
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 17:48:34
June 12 2012 17:48 GMT
#22626
On June 12 2012 20:11 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 10:32 Myrmidon wrote:
On June 12 2012 09:51 JingleHell wrote:
On June 12 2012 09:12 Shauni wrote:
On June 12 2012 04:11 Rachnar wrote:
On June 11 2012 22:18 FakePseudo wrote:
Thank you very much for your advice (i must recognize topachat.fr seems to get much cheaper prices), but i intentionally spent a bit more on the Mobo and Psu to get higher quality and i think it's worth it. And i think i'm definitely going for an Nvidia GPU.

So there's one question remaining: is the samsung SSD as reliable as the Crucial one?


[Edit: and why better? Did I choose something wrong?]


OCZ psu is quality, the one you selected isn't as good as it's labeled to be relativly

motherboard is fine.... MSI is a good brand

Samsung 830 series is reliable as Crucial M4


Hmmm.... OCZ PSUs quality, MSI good brand? What am i reading here...

MSI is the worst motherboard manufacturer of the big four and OCZ ZS by great wall won't exactly kill your computer, but I wouldn't call it quality. Modxstream is terrible though. Also why would he need a 650w PSU? Efficiency is going to be terrible...
That site doesn't have many options though. Antec HCG 520 is better but more expensive.
The GS500 is just a bit more expensive, if it's the new reharsh then it's a pretty good buy.


Source on both of those claims, please?

OCZ ZS is Sirtec / Highpower (not Great Wall), while ZT and ZX are Great Wall. I don't think you can consider Antec HCG 520W to be better than either ZS or ZT, definitely not enough to recommend as a replacement when it's more expensive. It's not like HCG 750/900, which are better.

GS500 is CWT DSAII, same as Corsair CX V2, so not good (not bad, just not worth the usual price). Other Corsair GS series are CWT PSHII, which are a step up but still generally overpriced. Corsair GS lineup is getting refreshed though, but I wouldn't count on those being what's available in stores.

As for MSI, I don't know what kind of evidence we're goign to get. Big four's all had issues.


Ups, I confused ZS with ZT. However, judging by this review, I don't see how you could put the ZT lineup over Antec HCG. The ZS reviews seems a bit more favorable though.



Tank you for all of your inputs... I think i'll stick with what i chose so far, since ti doesn't seem to change so much, in term of quality and price. Will maybe be looking for cheaper price than the ones mentioned in the first post
I am the 0.0007% /forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17208334|| Big Black Women Vocals Is Like Porn to my Ears ||San Antonio Spurs|Boston Celtics||#1EZToss Hater;
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
June 12 2012 18:14 GMT
#22627
On June 13 2012 01:21 -iNko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 23:48 Ata wrote:
GPU: well i guess at your price range you would have to go with 560Ti-448 / 570 or HD7850 / 7870 depending on what is on special.

It might be important to note that if you only care about GW2, they are sponsored by Nvidia (I think) and there seems to be less issues with their gpus than AMDs in the beta.

CPU: If you want to stream at the best quality, it might be worth investing in an i7, but not the 2700k as u can just overclock the 2600k. and u dont want the 2550k at all, you can just get 2500k for cheaper.

MOBO: I dont know

edit: I was looking at the website that you are looking at and noticed the 2700k is cheaper than the 2600k, which is wierd, but i just meant that u should go with the cheaper one.


a friend of mine says i should go for 2500k and overclock it and it will be just as good as 2600k

as for the gpu, same friend says i should wait for gtx 660

also thx for replying to me

EDIT:
what if i would get a good motherboard+cpu, and leave my old gpu (vtx radepm jd 5770), could i stream gw2 in best quality?



Keep in mind that im no expert.

2500k wont be just as good as 2600k (hyperthreding) but it might be sufficient for what you want to do and also it might be worth saving ~100$.

I didnt know the 660 was even out but i douth it is less than your 250$ upper price range.

You didnt ask about this, but dont forget to buy a cpu cooler no matter which cpu you go with.
Kirbtacular
Profile Joined July 2011
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 18:33:21
June 12 2012 18:30 GMT
#22628
Sup TL, if you've got a moment to spare i'd love some feedback on my build before I buy.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9Rey

I'm gonna be overclocking the cpu and gpu, gaming/streaming on a 1680x1050 monitor. The sound card is for my ath m50s, and the extra fan is to improve the thermals on the case.

-Any recommendations on controllers?

-Where should I mount the fan to get the best air flow?

Thanks
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 19:21:08
June 12 2012 19:20 GMT
#22629
On June 13 2012 03:30 Kirbtacular wrote:
Sup TL, if you've got a moment to spare i'd love some feedback on my build before I buy.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9Rey

I'm gonna be overclocking the cpu and gpu, gaming/streaming on a 1680x1050 monitor. The sound card is for my ath m50s, and the extra fan is to improve the thermals on the case.

-Any recommendations on controllers?

-Where should I mount the fan to get the best air flow?

Thanks


I think an you would benefit much more from an i7 if you were streaming. If there is space in the front, it can be mounted there, or can be mounted on top to pull air out of the case.
SirHyoon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia46 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 19:20:22
June 12 2012 19:20 GMT
#22630
Hey guys. i'm building a computer for a friend of mine and was just wondering what would the cheapest motherboard to go with these two items of choice.
i5 ivy bridge and Sapphire Radeon HD7870 2GB.

Cheers in advance
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 19:34:28
June 12 2012 19:34 GMT
#22631
On June 13 2012 04:20 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 03:30 Kirbtacular wrote:
Sup TL, if you've got a moment to spare i'd love some feedback on my build before I buy.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9Rey

I'm gonna be overclocking the cpu and gpu, gaming/streaming on a 1680x1050 monitor. The sound card is for my ath m50s, and the extra fan is to improve the thermals on the case.

-Any recommendations on controllers?

-Where should I mount the fan to get the best air flow?

Thanks


I think an you would benefit much more from an i7 if you were streaming. If there is space in the front, it can be mounted there, or can be mounted on top to pull air out of the case.


Agreed with EdenPLusDucky and @kirbtacular

Your build is good but don't get that OCZ ModXStreamPro. Besides being mediocre in quality, it has annoyingly short cables.

This is a much better choice for that build, and yes it's plenty of power: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pc-power--cooling-power-supply-ppcmk3s400
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Kirbtacular
Profile Joined July 2011
United States64 Posts
June 12 2012 19:50 GMT
#22632
On June 13 2012 04:34 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 04:20 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
On June 13 2012 03:30 Kirbtacular wrote:
Sup TL, if you've got a moment to spare i'd love some feedback on my build before I buy.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9Rey

I'm gonna be overclocking the cpu and gpu, gaming/streaming on a 1680x1050 monitor. The sound card is for my ath m50s, and the extra fan is to improve the thermals on the case.

-Any recommendations on controllers?

-Where should I mount the fan to get the best air flow?

Thanks


I think an you would benefit much more from an i7 if you were streaming. If there is space in the front, it can be mounted there, or can be mounted on top to pull air out of the case.


Agreed with EdenPLusDucky and @kirbtacular

Your build is good but don't get that OCZ ModXStreamPro. Besides being mediocre in quality, it has annoyingly short cables.

This is a much better choice for that build, and yes it's plenty of power: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pc-power--cooling-power-supply-ppcmk3s400


An i7 would be nice but unfortunately that's pushing the price out of my budget :s

If i wanted to upgrade gpu later, would I need a new PSU as well?
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
June 12 2012 20:00 GMT
#22633
Unless you're saving money to upgrade to a GPU with three 6 pin connectors, a 400w PSU should do fine.
HotCookies
Profile Joined January 2011
Greece149 Posts
June 12 2012 20:25 GMT
#22634
Which ssd would you reccomend buying? I think i am gonna need an 120gb one or 240gb max. sata 3

i5 2500k
Gts 250 (gonna get gtx 560 ti soon)
Z68
4gb ddr3 1333mhz
Western digital caviar green 500gb
Kirbtacular
Profile Joined July 2011
United States64 Posts
June 12 2012 20:28 GMT
#22635
On June 13 2012 05:00 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
Unless you're saving money to upgrade to a GPU with three 6 pin connectors, a 400w PSU should do fine.


Kay, gonna add that PSU into my build then!

Thanks for all the help mang
Sathiroth
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia93 Posts
June 13 2012 00:09 GMT
#22636
Hi Guys,

I'm looking at purchasing a new laptop for studies and a little bit of gaming and cant decide between the following notebooks.

http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=v510664au&c=au&l=en&s=dhs&cs=audhs1&model_id=inspiron-15r-se-7520

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1013&products_id=20239

Any advise would be appreciated.
■ Win7 Pro 64bit ■ Intel i5-2400 @ 3.9Ghz ■ Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 ■ ASUS EAH6850 ■ G.Skill Ripjaw-X 8GB DDR3 1333MHz 1.5V ■ 1*WD Blue 320GB + 500GB, 1*500GB Seagate, 1*WD Green 1TB ■ Corsair HX 750W ■ Razer Deathadder & Blackwidow
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 13 2012 02:02 GMT
#22637
Hey, guys. My friend asked me to help him build a computer and since I have not been doing much reasearch on it latley, I was wondering if anyone would "build" me one in a price range around 700$. It has to include the box of course and a Monitor.

if you can believe you can concieve
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
June 13 2012 02:37 GMT
#22638
On June 12 2012 15:58 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 10:55 TheMusiC wrote:
Hi all, I'm currently in the market to build a new PC, mainly for personal use, but I want it to be able to handle my work if I ever need to work at night from home/on the weekends. My main question is: is there a video card that can support three monitors on its own (that is, without the need for SLI/Crossfire)? I have nothing against SLI or Crossfire, I'd just like to keep it down to one card if at all possible (just a weird personal preference, I guess). I know some of the newer Nvidia cards can support a two DVI/one HDMI combo with monitors, but are they the only ones? And yes, I will be playing games on this too.


i think most newer 68xx, 69xx, 78xx, 79xx radeon cards support 3 monitors by itself (could be more, im not gonna list all of them), only the newer GTX (670?),680,690 support 3 out of the box. You should list a budget so we can accurately list give you advice on a specific card.


Thanks -- I don't really have a budget (of course I'd like to keep costs down, I don't want to spend anything too extravagant... over $350~400ish is probably too much) and of course I'd like the best performance for the value while still keeping the features I want (the ability to run 3 monitors).

I'll take a look at your suggestions though, thanks again. If anyone else has anything else to recommend then please let me know!
findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
June 13 2012 11:26 GMT
#22639
hey everyone,

so i've been reading much about computer hardware lately, and I am relatively knowledgeable about types of GPU, RAM, CPUs and coolers, such that when i build a computer in the near future I can pick my own components.

However, I have absolutely no idea what different types of motherboards mean, and I cannot name a difference between a zXX/pXX motherboard. I know some have different ports, but aside from that, what should i look at when i pick a motherboard? I heard that some are better at overclocking than others, can anyone elaborate on that?

Or, point me in the right direction regarding where I should look for the right answer? Wiki is not as helpful as I hope it would be in this aspect.

Thanks in advance!
JingleHell
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June 13 2012 13:24 GMT
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On June 13 2012 20:26 findingthelimit wrote:
hey everyone,

so i've been reading much about computer hardware lately, and I am relatively knowledgeable about types of GPU, RAM, CPUs and coolers, such that when i build a computer in the near future I can pick my own components.

However, I have absolutely no idea what different types of motherboards mean, and I cannot name a difference between a zXX/pXX motherboard. I know some have different ports, but aside from that, what should i look at when i pick a motherboard? I heard that some are better at overclocking than others, can anyone elaborate on that?

Or, point me in the right direction regarding where I should look for the right answer? Wiki is not as helpful as I hope it would be in this aspect.

Thanks in advance!


"Better" for overclocking is usually pretty relative, and frequently doesn't mean much unless one of them truly sucks or you want to go for fairly high OCs, at least with current Intel offerings. Most mobo improvements for OC are quality of life improvements, like a good BIOS, onboard CMOS reset, OC recovery, onboard power/reset switches, and attached speaker/POST LEDs. They're things that make it easier to OC at all.

In most cases, the differences between motherboards for a normal OC are going to be close enough that you should go by warranty and features needed.

Pick for the socket, then just get the chipset that comes with the features you actually plan to use, from a reliable brand. Unless you're planning to go high or extreme OC, at which point a few other things can come into play.
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