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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
June 11 2012 19:11 GMT
#22601
On June 11 2012 22:18 FakePseudo wrote:
Thank you very much for your advice (i must recognize topachat.fr seems to get much cheaper prices), but i intentionally spent a bit more on the Mobo and Psu to get higher quality and i think it's worth it. And i think i'm definitely going for an Nvidia GPU.

So there's one question remaining: is the samsung SSD as reliable as the Crucial one?


[Edit: and why better? Did I choose something wrong?]


OCZ psu is quality, the one you selected isn't as good as it's labeled to be relativly

motherboard is fine.... MSI is a good brand

Samsung 830 series is reliable as Crucial M4
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 21:38:04
June 11 2012 21:35 GMT
#22602
Hello TL!

I'm thinking about Upgrading my computer (mainly Motherboard / CPU / RAM)

My current Setup:

Case NZXT Hades
Some cheap Asrock Mobo (socket 775)
Intel Quad Core Q6700 @2,6Ghz
4GB RAM
Radeon HD 6850
Main 500GB HD and an old 80GB HD for music and stuff

Monitor BenQ 24 inch LED @ 1920x1080 res

This PC is (and will be) used for gaming and I do not plan to overclock.

My plan was to upgrade to socket 2011 on a thight budget ; I plan to spend around 500€ on the upgrade.

On this budget the processor is clear (the other 2011 CPUs are much more expensive)

CPU:
**Intel Core i7-3820 3.60Ghz Box Socket 2011
Model number: i7-3820 Frequency (MHz): 3600 Turbo frequency (MHz) 3900 Socket Socket 2011 (LGA2011)

What Mobo and RAM would you suggest? do you think I should be looking to upgrade something else?(I'd prefer not to if its not really necessary ^^)

Thank you TL!

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 21:39:38
June 11 2012 21:38 GMT
#22603
On June 12 2012 06:35 Meatloaf wrote:
Hello TL!

I'm thinking about Upgrading my computer (mainly Motherboard / CPU / RAM)

My current Setup:

Case NZXT Hades
Some cheap Asrock Mobo (socket 775)
Intel Quad Core Q6700 @2,6Ghz
4GB RAM
Radeon HD 6850
Main 500GB HD and an old 80GB HD for music and stuff

Monitor BenQ 24 inch LED @ 1920x1080 res

This PC is (and will be) used for gaming

My plan was to upgrade to socket 2011 on a thight budget ; I plan to spend around 500€ on the upgrade.

On this budget the processor is clear (the other 2011 CPUs are much more expensive)

CPU:
**Intel Core i7-3820 3.60Ghz Box Socket 2011
Model number: i7-3820 Frequency (MHz): 3600 Turbo frequency (MHz) 3900 Socket Socket 2011 (LGA2011)

What Mobo and RAM would you suggest? do you think I should be looking to upgrade something else?(I'd prefer not to if its not really necessary ^^)

Thank you TL!






If it's purely for gaming, upgrading to LGA 2011 is ridiculous, as extra physical cores are the primary reason to run 2011, and you won't see a benefit from those OR HT in most games. An i7 3820 is even worse, since it doesn't even get the extra cores. It's going to have nearly no gain over an i7 2600k, which comes with WAY lower price premiums.

If you wanted to stream 1080p, I could see going for a hex-core 2011 build, but otherwise, you can get way more for the money.

Quad channel RAM and large amounts of RAM are also terrible in value for gaming purposes, which would be the other potential reason to go 2011.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 22:01:17
June 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#22604
On June 12 2012 06:35 Meatloaf wrote:
My plan was to upgrade to socket 2011 on a thight budget ; I plan to spend around 500€ on the upgrade.


ಠ_ಠ

That's like saying you want to upgrade your 1995 Ford Focus (edit: think Wolkswagen Jetta I guess for Europeans) to a Lamborghini because you're on a tight budget.

Just thought I'd put that out there for the sake of comparison. I'd say it's quite an accurate and not exaggerated analogy.

Clearly, agreed with JingleHell. For you, something like a core i5 (3450, 3550, or 3570K if overclocking) would probably make the most sense.

Pair it with a LGA1155 motherboard chipset B75 or H77 or, if overclocking the 3570K, Z75 or Z77.

Any 240pin DDR3 1333 or 1600 RAM rated to run at 1.5V will be fine. Avoid tall heatspreaders especially if thinking about overclocking as it may block aftermarket heatsinks. A 2x4GB pair is quite inexpensive.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
HansK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
249 Posts
June 11 2012 23:36 GMT
#22605
Hello,

I'm trying to build a streaming computer that can stream in at least 720P with out lagging[assuming good net connection..] at 1680x1050 as well as record videos in 720p+ with out lagging me.

The thing is I'm trying to do it as low-cost[but spending what I have to for good performance].

Things I am going to re-use:
Case
SSD
8 GB RAM
[guessing I'll need to replace my power supply - only 450 W]
Radeon HD5770 video card[as I understand it, this is good enough to run SC2 and stream on high or medium with out lag given good enough other specs? if not I'd like to know].

So I'm guessing what that leaves is:
Intel motherobard
some form of intel processor, should I be going for i3 or i7?
Power supply - I'm guessing some good brand 600W one should do?
a different HD for recording video to to reduce lag. [1TB I'd assume for simplicity].

So I guess that leaves me with the questions, do I go i5 or do I have to go i7 for streaming in those specs, and if so which ones. Then I'd like to know of my video card should do and if not what kind should I be looking it...
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 00:44:22
June 12 2012 00:12 GMT
#22606
On June 12 2012 04:11 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 22:18 FakePseudo wrote:
Thank you very much for your advice (i must recognize topachat.fr seems to get much cheaper prices), but i intentionally spent a bit more on the Mobo and Psu to get higher quality and i think it's worth it. And i think i'm definitely going for an Nvidia GPU.

So there's one question remaining: is the samsung SSD as reliable as the Crucial one?


[Edit: and why better? Did I choose something wrong?]


OCZ psu is quality, the one you selected isn't as good as it's labeled to be relativly

motherboard is fine.... MSI is a good brand

Samsung 830 series is reliable as Crucial M4


Hmmm.... OCZ PSUs quality, MSI good brand? What am i reading here...

MSI is the worst motherboard manufacturer of the big four and OCZ ZS by great wall won't exactly kill your computer, but I wouldn't call it quality. Modxstream is terrible though. Also why would he need a 650w PSU? Efficiency is going to be terrible...
That site doesn't have many options though. Antec HCG 520 is better but more expensive.
The GS500 is just a bit more expensive, if it's the new reharsh then it's a pretty good buy.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 12 2012 00:51 GMT
#22607
On June 12 2012 09:12 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 04:11 Rachnar wrote:
On June 11 2012 22:18 FakePseudo wrote:
Thank you very much for your advice (i must recognize topachat.fr seems to get much cheaper prices), but i intentionally spent a bit more on the Mobo and Psu to get higher quality and i think it's worth it. And i think i'm definitely going for an Nvidia GPU.

So there's one question remaining: is the samsung SSD as reliable as the Crucial one?


[Edit: and why better? Did I choose something wrong?]


OCZ psu is quality, the one you selected isn't as good as it's labeled to be relativly

motherboard is fine.... MSI is a good brand

Samsung 830 series is reliable as Crucial M4


Hmmm.... OCZ PSUs quality, MSI good brand? What am i reading here...

MSI is the worst motherboard manufacturer of the big four and OCZ ZS by great wall won't exactly kill your computer, but I wouldn't call it quality. Modxstream is terrible though. Also why would he need a 650w PSU? Efficiency is going to be terrible...
That site doesn't have many options though. Antec HCG 520 is better but more expensive.
The GS500 is just a bit more expensive, if it's the new reharsh then it's a pretty good buy.


Source on both of those claims, please?
dlf
Profile Joined June 2012
3 Posts
June 12 2012 01:26 GMT
#22608
On June 11 2012 15:38 dlf wrote:
- What is your budget?

Within about 1600 American (though cheaper is better)

- What is your resolution?

@ first 1680 x 1050. Eventually HD

- What are you using it for?

Gaming, surfing the net, watching download videos, Folding@home

- What is your upgrade cycle?

Would like a REAL long 'cycle'.

- When do you plan on building it?

I'd hope to build something this year but I don't know when

- Do you plan on overclocking?

NO. No part will ever be overclocked

- Do you need an Operating System?

No. WIll run Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium or Ultimate (have both already)

- Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

- Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg, Microcenter (CPU, probably) & possibly NCIX.


I want a good enough GPU to show 'here is somethings that console can not do" . . . .

And my own bit (previous threads, on dozens of different sites)

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5267/68992427.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9692/95936970.jpg

Stay a while and listen!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 12 2012 01:32 GMT
#22609
On June 12 2012 09:51 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 09:12 Shauni wrote:
On June 12 2012 04:11 Rachnar wrote:
On June 11 2012 22:18 FakePseudo wrote:
Thank you very much for your advice (i must recognize topachat.fr seems to get much cheaper prices), but i intentionally spent a bit more on the Mobo and Psu to get higher quality and i think it's worth it. And i think i'm definitely going for an Nvidia GPU.

So there's one question remaining: is the samsung SSD as reliable as the Crucial one?


[Edit: and why better? Did I choose something wrong?]


OCZ psu is quality, the one you selected isn't as good as it's labeled to be relativly

motherboard is fine.... MSI is a good brand

Samsung 830 series is reliable as Crucial M4


Hmmm.... OCZ PSUs quality, MSI good brand? What am i reading here...

MSI is the worst motherboard manufacturer of the big four and OCZ ZS by great wall won't exactly kill your computer, but I wouldn't call it quality. Modxstream is terrible though. Also why would he need a 650w PSU? Efficiency is going to be terrible...
That site doesn't have many options though. Antec HCG 520 is better but more expensive.
The GS500 is just a bit more expensive, if it's the new reharsh then it's a pretty good buy.


Source on both of those claims, please?

OCZ ZS is Sirtec / Highpower (not Great Wall), while ZT and ZX are Great Wall. I don't think you can consider Antec HCG 520W to be better than either ZS or ZT, definitely not enough to recommend as a replacement when it's more expensive. It's not like HCG 750/900, which are better.

GS500 is CWT DSAII, same as Corsair CX V2, so not good (not bad, just not worth the usual price). Other Corsair GS series are CWT PSHII, which are a step up but still generally overpriced. Corsair GS lineup is getting refreshed though, but I wouldn't count on those being what's available in stores.

As for MSI, I don't know what kind of evidence we're goign to get. Big four's all had issues.
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
June 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#22610
Hi all, I'm currently in the market to build a new PC, mainly for personal use, but I want it to be able to handle my work if I ever need to work at night from home/on the weekends. My main question is: is there a video card that can support three monitors on its own (that is, without the need for SLI/Crossfire)? I have nothing against SLI or Crossfire, I'd just like to keep it down to one card if at all possible (just a weird personal preference, I guess). I know some of the newer Nvidia cards can support a two DVI/one HDMI combo with monitors, but are they the only ones? And yes, I will be playing games on this too.
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
June 12 2012 04:27 GMT
#22611
- What is your budget?

About 1Million-1.5million KRW

- What is your resolution?

Anything, a monitor isn't needed and the monitor is 1920x1080

- What are you using it for?

Gaming, surfing the net, watching downloaded videos,

- What is your upgrade cycle?

About a year to 2 years

- When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 3 months

- Do you plan on overclocking?

nope

- Do you need an Operating System?

Yes

- Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

- Where are you buying your parts from?

Yongsan (Korea computer markets), Gmarket,

I know it's a difficult thing becuase of buying the parts at markets and what not, but a rough price up would be much appreciated ^^ I already have a laptop, so I don't need to worry about connecting to TVs and stuff....but yeah I would just like to know a good strong build. This is also my first build ^^
SkL
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia5 Posts
June 12 2012 05:38 GMT
#22612
What is your budget?
~900 AUD

What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming: D3, Tera, SC2, Dota 2 and probably new games when they come out

What is your upgrade cycle?
~4 years

When do you plan on building it?
2-3 weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, I managed to stay on GT9500 for 5 years so I think i can manage without it

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
MSY Australia: http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
Can get parts from www.umart.com.au or www.pccasegear.com.au but I figured Australia has a lack of variety anyway and those 2 places a slighly more expensive than MSY

Already have keyboard/mouse/monitor

What I currently gathered after reading through the thread:
intel i5-3450 $202
Asrock H77-PRO4-MVP $99
8g kit 1600 patriot gamer2 $49
sapphire 7850HD 2G $269
antec 300 $57
Antec Neo Eco 520C 520W PSU $66
Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm SATA3 1TB $92

total $834

I was thinking if I should get a case which can support USB 3.0 but got no idea which one to choose...
GTX560ti is available at another store (Umart) for $249 but its been out of stock for a while so i'm not sure if I should bother waiting for it or just go ahead and grab the 7850
Thank you
"Knowing is half the battle"
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 12 2012 05:55 GMT
#22613
On June 12 2012 14:38 SkL wrote:
What is your budget?
~900 AUD

What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming: D3, Tera, SC2, Dota 2 and probably new games when they come out

What is your upgrade cycle?
~4 years

When do you plan on building it?
2-3 weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, I managed to stay on GT9500 for 5 years so I think i can manage without it

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
MSY Australia: http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
Can get parts from www.umart.com.au or www.pccasegear.com.au but I figured Australia has a lack of variety anyway and those 2 places a slighly more expensive than MSY

Already have keyboard/mouse/monitor

What I currently gathered after reading through the thread:
intel i5-3450 $202
Asrock H77-PRO4-MVP $99
8g kit 1600 patriot gamer2 $49
sapphire 7850HD 2G $269
antec 300 $57
Antec Neo Eco 520C 520W PSU $66
Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm SATA3 1TB $92

total $834

I was thinking if I should get a case which can support USB 3.0 but got no idea which one to choose...
GTX560ti is available at another store (Umart) for $249 but its been out of stock for a while so i'm not sure if I should bother waiting for it or just go ahead and grab the 7850
Thank you

Corsair 300R has 2xUSB3.0 on the front plate however is more expensive ~80. The 7850 is a lot more powerful than 560Ti. I'm 85% sure the Ram you have listed is 1.65v, which is garbage basically, find a 1.5v kit.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
SkL
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia5 Posts
June 12 2012 06:25 GMT
#22614
On June 12 2012 14:55 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 14:38 SkL wrote:
What is your budget?
~900 AUD

What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming: D3, Tera, SC2, Dota 2 and probably new games when they come out

What is your upgrade cycle?
~4 years

When do you plan on building it?
2-3 weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, I managed to stay on GT9500 for 5 years so I think i can manage without it

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
MSY Australia: http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
Can get parts from www.umart.com.au or www.pccasegear.com.au but I figured Australia has a lack of variety anyway and those 2 places a slighly more expensive than MSY

Already have keyboard/mouse/monitor

What I currently gathered after reading through the thread:
intel i5-3450 $202
Asrock H77-PRO4-MVP $99
8g kit 1600 patriot gamer2 $49
sapphire 7850HD 2G $269
antec 300 $57
Antec Neo Eco 520C 520W PSU $66
Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm SATA3 1TB $92

total $834

I was thinking if I should get a case which can support USB 3.0 but got no idea which one to choose...
GTX560ti is available at another store (Umart) for $249 but its been out of stock for a while so i'm not sure if I should bother waiting for it or just go ahead and grab the 7850
Thank you

Corsair 300R has 2xUSB3.0 on the front plate however is more expensive ~80. The 7850 is a lot more powerful than 560Ti. I'm 85% sure the Ram you have listed is 1.65v, which is garbage basically, find a 1.5v kit.


Ah thanks I'll just get the kingston hyperX one then, support EG while im at it :D
"Knowing is half the battle"
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
June 12 2012 06:58 GMT
#22615
On June 12 2012 10:55 TheMusiC wrote:
Hi all, I'm currently in the market to build a new PC, mainly for personal use, but I want it to be able to handle my work if I ever need to work at night from home/on the weekends. My main question is: is there a video card that can support three monitors on its own (that is, without the need for SLI/Crossfire)? I have nothing against SLI or Crossfire, I'd just like to keep it down to one card if at all possible (just a weird personal preference, I guess). I know some of the newer Nvidia cards can support a two DVI/one HDMI combo with monitors, but are they the only ones? And yes, I will be playing games on this too.


i think most newer 68xx, 69xx, 78xx, 79xx radeon cards support 3 monitors by itself (could be more, im not gonna list all of them), only the newer GTX (670?),680,690 support 3 out of the box. You should list a budget so we can accurately list give you advice on a specific card.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
June 12 2012 07:38 GMT
#22616
On June 12 2012 06:38 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 06:35 Meatloaf wrote:
Hello TL!

I'm thinking about Upgrading my computer (mainly Motherboard / CPU / RAM)

My current Setup:

Case NZXT Hades
Some cheap Asrock Mobo (socket 775)
Intel Quad Core Q6700 @2,6Ghz
4GB RAM
Radeon HD 6850
Main 500GB HD and an old 80GB HD for music and stuff

Monitor BenQ 24 inch LED @ 1920x1080 res

This PC is (and will be) used for gaming

My plan was to upgrade to socket 2011 on a thight budget ; I plan to spend around 500€ on the upgrade.

On this budget the processor is clear (the other 2011 CPUs are much more expensive)

CPU:
**Intel Core i7-3820 3.60Ghz Box Socket 2011
Model number: i7-3820 Frequency (MHz): 3600 Turbo frequency (MHz) 3900 Socket Socket 2011 (LGA2011)

What Mobo and RAM would you suggest? do you think I should be looking to upgrade something else?(I'd prefer not to if its not really necessary ^^)

Thank you TL!






If it's purely for gaming, upgrading to LGA 2011 is ridiculous, as extra physical cores are the primary reason to run 2011, and you won't see a benefit from those OR HT in most games. An i7 3820 is even worse, since it doesn't even get the extra cores. It's going to have nearly no gain over an i7 2600k, which comes with WAY lower price premiums.

If you wanted to stream 1080p, I could see going for a hex-core 2011 build, but otherwise, you can get way more for the money.

Quad channel RAM and large amounts of RAM are also terrible in value for gaming purposes, which would be the other potential reason to go 2011.


thanks for the input , as you see , I dont know Shit about building computers , i thought the 2011 socket was the newest so why not put the latest so it lasts longer before another change.

Thanks to your help i am able to throw a SSD in the build and its still a little less than 500€

im going with this ATM

Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4Ghz Box Socket 1155
Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 8GB 2x4GB CL9
Crucial M4 128GB SSD SATA3

ill not overclock ATM but i saw that the price for the K CPU with Z mobo is almost the same as the normal ones so I'll go with it and maybe OC in the future if i want to.

if you have any other suggestions im eager to hear them!

Thank you very much!


iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 12 2012 07:51 GMT
#22617
On June 12 2012 16:38 Meatloaf wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2012 06:38 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 06:35 Meatloaf wrote:
Hello TL!

I'm thinking about Upgrading my computer (mainly Motherboard / CPU / RAM)

My current Setup:

Case NZXT Hades
Some cheap Asrock Mobo (socket 775)
Intel Quad Core Q6700 @2,6Ghz
4GB RAM
Radeon HD 6850
Main 500GB HD and an old 80GB HD for music and stuff

Monitor BenQ 24 inch LED @ 1920x1080 res

This PC is (and will be) used for gaming

My plan was to upgrade to socket 2011 on a thight budget ; I plan to spend around 500€ on the upgrade.

On this budget the processor is clear (the other 2011 CPUs are much more expensive)

CPU:
**Intel Core i7-3820 3.60Ghz Box Socket 2011
Model number: i7-3820 Frequency (MHz): 3600 Turbo frequency (MHz) 3900 Socket Socket 2011 (LGA2011)

What Mobo and RAM would you suggest? do you think I should be looking to upgrade something else?(I'd prefer not to if its not really necessary ^^)

Thank you TL!






If it's purely for gaming, upgrading to LGA 2011 is ridiculous, as extra physical cores are the primary reason to run 2011, and you won't see a benefit from those OR HT in most games. An i7 3820 is even worse, since it doesn't even get the extra cores. It's going to have nearly no gain over an i7 2600k, which comes with WAY lower price premiums.

If you wanted to stream 1080p, I could see going for a hex-core 2011 build, but otherwise, you can get way more for the money.

Quad channel RAM and large amounts of RAM are also terrible in value for gaming purposes, which would be the other potential reason to go 2011.


thanks for the input , as you see , I dont know Shit about building computers , i thought the 2011 socket was the newest so why not put the latest so it lasts longer before another change.

Thanks to your help i am able to throw a SSD in the build and its still a little less than 500€

im going with this ATM

Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4Ghz Box Socket 1155
Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 8GB 2x4GB CL9
Crucial M4 128GB SSD SATA3

ill not overclock ATM but i saw that the price for the K CPU with Z mobo is almost the same as the normal ones so I'll go with it and maybe OC in the future if i want to.

if you have any other suggestions im eager to hear them!

Thank you very much!



You will need an aftermarket heatsink if you intend to OC more than ~4.2ghz (a guess) down the road. Cooler Master Hyper 212+ is cheap and works very well.
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 08:22:40
June 12 2012 08:21 GMT
#22618
On June 12 2012 13:27 OptimusYale wrote:
- What is your budget?

About 1Million-1.5million KRW

- What is your resolution?

Anything, a monitor isn't needed and the monitor is 1920x1080

- What are you using it for?

Gaming, surfing the net, watching downloaded videos,

- What is your upgrade cycle?

About a year to 2 years

- When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 3 months

- Do you plan on overclocking?

nope

- Do you need an Operating System?

Yes

- Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

- Where are you buying your parts from?

Yongsan (Korea computer markets), Gmarket,

I know it's a difficult thing becuase of buying the parts at markets and what not, but a rough price up would be much appreciated ^^ I already have a laptop, so I don't need to worry about connecting to TVs and stuff....but yeah I would just like to know a good strong build. This is also my first build ^^


I'll leave the build suggestions to the experts, but for purchasing the parts I definitely recommend this site for price comparison:

http://shop.danawa.com/shopmain/?logger_kw=TOP_dnwpc_main

That's where I bought my new parts a few days ago. Ordered at around lunch time and got all parts by the next day before noon. Very satisfied. Cheaper than gmarket, auction, etc.

The specific shop I used was http://twinscom.co.kr/
@riotsnowbird
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 12 2012 08:46 GMT
#22619
On June 12 2012 17:21 snowbird wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2012 13:27 OptimusYale wrote:
- What is your budget?

About 1Million-1.5million KRW

- What is your resolution?

Anything, a monitor isn't needed and the monitor is 1920x1080

- What are you using it for?

Gaming, surfing the net, watching downloaded videos,

- What is your upgrade cycle?

About a year to 2 years

- When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 3 months

- Do you plan on overclocking?

nope

- Do you need an Operating System?

Yes

- Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

- Where are you buying your parts from?

Yongsan (Korea computer markets), Gmarket,

I know it's a difficult thing becuase of buying the parts at markets and what not, but a rough price up would be much appreciated ^^ I already have a laptop, so I don't need to worry about connecting to TVs and stuff....but yeah I would just like to know a good strong build. This is also my first build ^^


I'll leave the build suggestions to the experts, but for purchasing the parts I definitely recommend this site for price comparison:

http://shop.danawa.com/shopmain/?logger_kw=TOP_dnwpc_main

That's where I bought my new parts a few days ago. Ordered at around lunch time and got all parts by the next day before noon. Very satisfied. Cheaper than gmarket, auction, etc.

The specific shop I used was http://twinscom.co.kr/

His budget is pretty high for not overclocking. I would go with something like:

i5-3550
H77 Motherboard
HD7850
8GB of DDR3-1600 1.5v
1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue HDD
Cooler Master HAF 912 Case
DVD Burner
450w PSU (Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, XFX)
Windows7 Home Premium 64-Bit

I'm guessing the total would come around ~1.05Million KRW.
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 11:11:59
June 12 2012 11:11 GMT
#22620
On June 12 2012 10:32 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 09:51 JingleHell wrote:
On June 12 2012 09:12 Shauni wrote:
On June 12 2012 04:11 Rachnar wrote:
On June 11 2012 22:18 FakePseudo wrote:
Thank you very much for your advice (i must recognize topachat.fr seems to get much cheaper prices), but i intentionally spent a bit more on the Mobo and Psu to get higher quality and i think it's worth it. And i think i'm definitely going for an Nvidia GPU.

So there's one question remaining: is the samsung SSD as reliable as the Crucial one?


[Edit: and why better? Did I choose something wrong?]


OCZ psu is quality, the one you selected isn't as good as it's labeled to be relativly

motherboard is fine.... MSI is a good brand

Samsung 830 series is reliable as Crucial M4


Hmmm.... OCZ PSUs quality, MSI good brand? What am i reading here...

MSI is the worst motherboard manufacturer of the big four and OCZ ZS by great wall won't exactly kill your computer, but I wouldn't call it quality. Modxstream is terrible though. Also why would he need a 650w PSU? Efficiency is going to be terrible...
That site doesn't have many options though. Antec HCG 520 is better but more expensive.
The GS500 is just a bit more expensive, if it's the new reharsh then it's a pretty good buy.


Source on both of those claims, please?

OCZ ZS is Sirtec / Highpower (not Great Wall), while ZT and ZX are Great Wall. I don't think you can consider Antec HCG 520W to be better than either ZS or ZT, definitely not enough to recommend as a replacement when it's more expensive. It's not like HCG 750/900, which are better.

GS500 is CWT DSAII, same as Corsair CX V2, so not good (not bad, just not worth the usual price). Other Corsair GS series are CWT PSHII, which are a step up but still generally overpriced. Corsair GS lineup is getting refreshed though, but I wouldn't count on those being what's available in stores.

As for MSI, I don't know what kind of evidence we're goign to get. Big four's all had issues.


Ups, I confused ZS with ZT. However, judging by this review, I don't see how you could put the ZT lineup over Antec HCG. The ZS reviews seems a bit more favorable though.
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