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On June 07 2012 14:54 iKill[ShocK] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 13:48 isueyou2 wrote:
What do you think about my build?
First time ever building a PC
$1,165.41 without tax and delivery from Newegg.ca
Processor: AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s
Graphic Card: GIGABYTE GV-R795WF3-3GD Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
Hard drive: HGST Deskstar 7K1000.C 0F10383 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
Monitor: ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
Ram: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3
Power supply: Rosewill Green Series RG530-S12 530W
Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (5 fans)
I went with AMD processor over intel friend told me cheaper and enough to play sc2 diablo3 and dota2 on highest setting.
I was wondering if i need a fan in order to be able to play and stream. (I have good internet up and down)
Any input would be great :D
Yeah amd is cheaper but shittier, your choice. 10-20 bucks more you'll get intel with a lot more performance http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072and a P67 board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
Thanks!
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Hey,
I have a Screenshot of a pc might want to build. 2 things to note: 1. It comes for around 800€ + shipping but thats a little too costly so if you know some parts I might change to make it cheaper pls tell me. 2. Maybe I wont buy that in the next 6 months or so but I just wanted to get a grasp on what I should spend.
I want to stream and play sc2 on low settings(prefer low settings).
So is this a good build?
http://i.imgur.com/nju6S.png
EDIT: its a bit small i hope you can read it :/
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On June 08 2012 08:03 FaCeful wrote:Hey, I have a Screenshot of a pc might want to build. 2 things to note: 1. It comes for around 800€ + shipping but thats a little too costly so if you know some parts I might change to make it cheaper pls tell me. 2. Maybe I wont buy that in the next 6 months or so but I just wanted to get a grasp on what I should spend. I want to stream and play sc2 on low settings(prefer low settings). So is this a good build? http://i.imgur.com/nju6S.pngEDIT: its a bit small i hope you can read it :/
You have an amd motherboard for an intel build, which won't work. Are you overclocking? If yes you need a p67 motherboard (probably ~90 euros) and an aftermarket heatsink (probably ~20-30 euros).
You can save money on the graphics card by getting a 6770 or 460, both are around the threshold to play on ultra anyway. Not sure about the case, but it will work. You could save money on that too.
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On June 08 2012 08:03 FaCeful wrote:Hey, I have a Screenshot of a pc might want to build. 2 things to note: 1. It comes for around 800€ + shipping but thats a little too costly so if you know some parts I might change to make it cheaper pls tell me. 2. Maybe I wont buy that in the next 6 months or so but I just wanted to get a grasp on what I should spend. I want to stream and play sc2 on low settings(prefer low settings). So is this a good build? http://i.imgur.com/nju6S.pngEDIT: its a bit small i hope you can read it :/
First off you can't pair an AMD Motherboard with an Intel Processor. The 620w PSU you selected is overkill and not very efficient.
Are you ordering from alternate.nl?
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I have an i5 3570k and this motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128550
Everything is installed and connected properly in my new build but it won't turn on at all, no beep, no nothing. Could it be that I need a BIOS flash to be able to turn the system on (with a Sandy Bridge processor, because one website said I need version F4 for an i5 3570k to work), or does the lack of a beep guarantee that something is broken or fried?
I checked and re-checked:
-All power supply cables hooked up, CPU, HD, Optical, GFX, Motherboard Main, Fans
-Headers hooked up correctly, front panel
-GPU and CPU installed correctly
-Tried with 2, 1, and 0 ram sticks
-Motherboard tightly screwed down (although one screw hole has no matching screw hole in the case)
My computer (the one I'm posting from) has an i5 2500k, and I'd be willing to swap it out to flash the BIOS on the other computer, but only want to do that if it could actually work, and not if something is just fried.
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a quick question- what CPU should I buy for plainly playing sc2/diablo3/dota2? I do not plan on overclocking.
i5 2500 or 3570? the price isn't really an issue, I just don't want to overkill. does it relate to the motherboard i'm using at all?
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Hey guys. I've been roaming around the internet for a while thinking about building a new computer, reading reviews, etc. and I've finally come up with a build I think is suitable. So I plan to be using this computer for playing games, but also for watching movies and editing video and streaming gameplay as well, but not as the primary purpose. I'm trying to keep it under $1750 for everything, but going over a little is ok. So here we go.
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GTS ($125)
here
PSU: Corsair TX750 ($110 $90 after MIR)
here
MOBO: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE ($270)
here
GPU: EVGA GTX 670 FTW ($420)
here
CPU: Intel i5-3570k 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge Processor ($240)
here
CPU COOLER/HEATSINK: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ($34)
here
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (4GB * 2) ($55)
here
SSD: OCZ Agility 3 120GB ($105 or $90 after MIR)
here
HDD: Seagate Barracuda ($100)
here
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner ($26)
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Audio Card: ASUS Xonar DX ($88)
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Monitor: ASUS VWS246H Monitor ($200)
here
Costing a grand total of: $1738. I also think I need to buy additional fans for the case because I believe it only comes with a 200mm fan for the front and a 120mm fan for the back, so I also need to purchase two more 120mm fans for the top and another 200mm or 140mm fan for the side. Having said that, what fans would you guys suggest for those fans. I would prefer to buy those fans for cheap, as I have seen 120mm fans on newegg for only around $5 a piece, but don't know how well those work.
Another question I have about the build is with the motherboard. I have read that the motherboard includes dualband WiFi; I believe it means I do not have to buy a wireless adapter for the computer, but I would liked to be double checked on that. I would greatly appreciate any further input you guys on my build. Thanks!
Edit: Forgot to say I also need one more 120mm fan on the bottom by the PSU too...
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 08 2012 12:09 AJCpar wrote:Hey guys. I've been roaming around the internet for a while thinking about building a new computer, reading reviews, etc. and I've finally come up with a build I think is suitable. So I plan to be using this computer for playing games, but also for watching movies and editing video and streaming gameplay as well, but not as the primary purpose. I'm trying to keep it under $1750 for everything, but going over a little is ok. So here we go. Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GTS ($125) herePSU: Corsair TX750 ($110 $90 after MIR) hereMOBO: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE ($270) hereGPU: EVGA GTX 670 FTW ($420) hereCPU: Intel i5-3570k 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge Processor ($240) hereCPU COOLER/HEATSINK: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ($34) hereRAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (4GB * 2) ($55) hereSSD: OCZ Agility 3 120GB ($105 or $90 after MIR) hereHDD: Seagate Barracuda ($100) hereOptical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner ($26) hereAudio Card: ASUS Xonar DX ($88) hereMonitor: ASUS VWS246H Monitor ($200) hereCosting a grand total of: $1738. I also think I need to buy additional fans for the case because I believe it only comes with a 200mm fan for the front and a 120mm fan for the back, so I also need to purchase two more 120mm fans for the top and another 200mm or 140mm fan for the side. Having said that, what fans would you guys suggest for those fans. I would prefer to buy those fans for cheap, as I have seen 120mm fans on newegg for only around $5 a piece, but don't know how well those work. Another question I have about the build is with the motherboard. I have read that the motherboard includes dualband WiFi; I believe it means I do not have to buy a wireless adapter for the computer, but I would liked to be double checked on that. I would greatly appreciate any further input you guys on my build. Thanks! Edit: Forgot to say I also need one more 120mm fan on the bottom by the PSU too...
So after researching a little more, I found !this set of 4 120mm fans, and this 140mm fan for around $20 for the both of them. Also, I was thinking about changing the SSD to a OCZ Vertex 4 128 GB drive, found here because I heard that there were some problems with the drivers on the OCZ Agility 3 drive I had chosen previously.
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On June 08 2012 10:01 iTzSnypah wrote:
First off you can't pair an AMD Motherboard with an Intel Processor. The 620w PSU you selected is overkill and not very efficient.
Are you ordering from alternate.nl?
should i get intel mobo or amd processor then?
and what powersupply should i take?
i dont plan on overclocking
thanks!
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On June 08 2012 12:09 AJCpar wrote:
Hey guys. I've been roaming around the internet for a while thinking about building a new computer, reading reviews, etc. and I've finally come up with a build I think is suitable. So I plan to be using this computer for playing games, but also for watching movies and editing video and streaming gameplay as well, but not as the primary purpose. I'm trying to keep it under $1750 for everything, but going over a little is ok. So here we go.
Costing a grand total of: $1738. I also think I need to buy additional fans for the case because I believe it only comes with a 200mm fan for the front and a 120mm fan for the back, so I also need to purchase two more 120mm fans for the top and another 200mm or 140mm fan for the side. Having said that, what fans would you guys suggest for those fans. I would prefer to buy those fans for cheap, as I have seen 120mm fans on newegg for only around $5 a piece, but don't know how well those work.
Another question I have about the build is with the motherboard. I have read that the motherboard includes dualband WiFi; I believe it means I do not have to buy a wireless adapter for the computer, but I would liked to be double checked on that. I would greatly appreciate any further input you guys on my build. Thanks!
Edit: Forgot to say I also need one more 120mm fan on the bottom by the PSU too...
Save cash by:
- Going down to 450W-500W PSU. You don't need 700W of power for a single GPU. What you're looking at is something like a Rosewill 450W Capstone.
- Getting a cheaper motherboard. That motherboard is obscenely expensive and you're barely going to use its potential. Maximum you are looking at is $140. If you need WiFi, get a USB dongle. Remember mATX boards are fine and are generally preferable if you don't need the numerous PCI slots.
- Ditching the stupid memory and get the cheapest pair without those stupid heatspreaders.
- Getting a cheaper and smaller chassis. A smaller chassis is easier to cool. It is also basically impossible for a desktop system to overheat unless your room is boiling or your chassis is filled with dust.
- Ditching the sound card. My personal opinion is that if you don't have good sound source and sound hardware, don't bother with the sound card. Onboard audio is fine for most people.
- Don't get additional fans. See how your system does then see if you need additional fans. You probably won't need any.
Do that and you can dump cash into:
- A better screen. $200 for that Asus is...well...not that great.
- An i7 processor. You want to stream and video edit so you will benefit from it.
If you want SSD reliability, just get a Crucial, Intel, or Samsung drive. Crucial drives should be the cheapest.
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On June 08 2012 07:13 charlieso wrote:I was planning on going with newegg for everything because I close to their will call place. Thanks for the input on the PSU. I forgot to add the case. This is what I was going with: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
I'm glad I asked. Don't get an Antec 300, it's terrible.
For that price, get a NZXT Source 210, or CoolerMaster HAF 912, or InWin Mana 134.
If you're going to get a PSU from newegg, I'd spend the extra bucks for something of higher quality (Antec Earthwatts 500D):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035
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Anyone know why Starcraft 2 ladder matches take quite a while to load if I have the game on anything but low settings (Takes around 45 seconds to a minute)? I'm thinking it's my Internet speed but I'm not sure. Here are my PC specs and a speedtest:
Intel Core i5 2500K OC @4.3GHz
8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM
PNY GTX560Ti XLR8 OC2 1GB
64GB Crucial M4 SSD
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1997576763.png)
I know waiting a minute or so for it to load doesn't seem that bad but it's quite frustrating waiting longer than I should considering I know that my PC can more than handle it. StarCraft is installed on the SSD if it matters.
Also, another slightly unrelated question. I'm looking to buy my mother a new laptop for around £300ish (Give or take). I was looking at buying it from eBuyer.com. I want to get her something with a moderate sized screen and something with Windows 7 on it that can handle HD Youtube videos (Her current laptop has like 512MB RAM, Intel Celeron CPU and a screen resolution of like 1024x768).
Thanks.
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On June 09 2012 00:40 Mackem wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Anyone know why Starcraft 2 ladder matches take quite a while to load if I have the game on anything but low settings (Takes around 45 seconds to a minute)? I'm thinking it's my Internet speed but I'm not sure. Here are my PC specs and a speedtest: Intel Core i5 2500K OC @4.3GHz 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM PNY GTX560Ti XLR8 OC2 1GB 64GB Crucial M4 SSD I know waiting a minute or so for it to load doesn't seem that bad but it's quite frustrating waiting longer than I should considering I know that my PC can more than handle it. StarCraft is installed on the SSD if it matters. Also, another slightly unrelated question. I'm looking to buy my mother a new laptop for around £300ish (Give or take). I was looking at buying it from eBuyer.com. I want to get her something with a moderate sized screen and something with Windows 7 on it that can handle HD Youtube videos (Her current laptop has like 512MB RAM, Intel Celeron CPU and a screen resolution of like 1024x768). Thanks.
Simple thing, does it take YOU 45-60seconds to load or your opponent? From you specs you should be first to completely load always.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2012 00:07 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 12:09 AJCpar wrote:
Hey guys. I've been roaming around the internet for a while thinking about building a new computer, reading reviews, etc. and I've finally come up with a build I think is suitable. So I plan to be using this computer for playing games, but also for watching movies and editing video and streaming gameplay as well, but not as the primary purpose. I'm trying to keep it under $1750 for everything, but going over a little is ok. So here we go.
Costing a grand total of: $1738. I also think I need to buy additional fans for the case because I believe it only comes with a 200mm fan for the front and a 120mm fan for the back, so I also need to purchase two more 120mm fans for the top and another 200mm or 140mm fan for the side. Having said that, what fans would you guys suggest for those fans. I would prefer to buy those fans for cheap, as I have seen 120mm fans on newegg for only around $5 a piece, but don't know how well those work.
Another question I have about the build is with the motherboard. I have read that the motherboard includes dualband WiFi; I believe it means I do not have to buy a wireless adapter for the computer, but I would liked to be double checked on that. I would greatly appreciate any further input you guys on my build. Thanks!
Edit: Forgot to say I also need one more 120mm fan on the bottom by the PSU too... Save cash by: - Going down to 450W-500W PSU. You don't need 700W of power for a single GPU. What you're looking at is something like a Rosewill 450W Capstone. - Getting a cheaper motherboard. That motherboard is obscenely expensive and you're barely going to use its potential. Maximum you are looking at is $140. If you need WiFi, get a USB dongle. Remember mATX boards are fine and are generally preferable if you don't need the numerous PCI slots. - Ditching the stupid memory and get the cheapest pair without those stupid heatspreaders. - Getting a cheaper and smaller chassis. A smaller chassis is easier to cool. It is also basically impossible for a desktop system to overheat unless your room is boiling or your chassis is filled with dust. - Ditching the sound card. My personal opinion is that if you don't have good sound source and sound hardware, don't bother with the sound card. Onboard audio is fine for most people. - Don't get additional fans. See how your system does then see if you need additional fans. You probably won't need any. Do that and you can dump cash into: - A better screen. $200 for that Asus is...well...not that great. - An i7 processor. You want to stream and video edit so you will benefit from it. If you want SSD reliability, just get a Crucial, Intel, or Samsung drive. Crucial drives should be the cheapest.
So here's what I came up with. I decided to go for the ASRock Extreme4 motherboard in combination with a Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB HDD combo from newegg found here, replacing the Seagate Barracuda HDD, took away the sound card, changed the case to the Cooler Master HAF 912 found for $65 here, upgraded my SSD to have 240 GB for a good price with, from what I hear, a fairly stable manufacturer here, got a 650W PSU and RAM combo from newegg here, and finally decided to go with the ASUS VG236H monitor, which actually you suggested in you monitor thread!
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On June 09 2012 01:56 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2012 00:40 Mackem wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Anyone know why Starcraft 2 ladder matches take quite a while to load if I have the game on anything but low settings (Takes around 45 seconds to a minute)? I'm thinking it's my Internet speed but I'm not sure. Here are my PC specs and a speedtest: Intel Core i5 2500K OC @4.3GHz 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM PNY GTX560Ti XLR8 OC2 1GB 64GB Crucial M4 SSD I know waiting a minute or so for it to load doesn't seem that bad but it's quite frustrating waiting longer than I should considering I know that my PC can more than handle it. StarCraft is installed on the SSD if it matters. Also, another slightly unrelated question. I'm looking to buy my mother a new laptop for around £300ish (Give or take). I was looking at buying it from eBuyer.com. I want to get her something with a moderate sized screen and something with Windows 7 on it that can handle HD Youtube videos (Her current laptop has like 512MB RAM, Intel Celeron CPU and a screen resolution of like 1024x768). Thanks. Simple thing, does it take YOU 45-60seconds to load or your opponent? From you specs you should be first to completely load always.
It's taking ME 45-60 seconds to load; my opponents loading bar is all the way up and says 'Complete'. It does this whether the graphics are on medium, high or ultra.
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The Mushkin is just like the OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS. If you need great performance (nobody really does or can tell the difference between a fast SSD and another SSD on desktop works), it has that, but it still may perhaps have some of the reliability / firmware issues as other similar drives like the Agility 3 you already listed. There's no reason to trust Mushkin over anybody else selling SandForce-based SSDs—and certainly not Intel, which uses their own custom firmware.
The power supply is still like $20-30 overpriced compared to something of comparable quality at a sufficient wattage for the build and the RAM is about $15 overpriced (plus has stupid heatspreaders), so suddenly that $15 combo savings doesn't look so good? It's not a huge deal if you don't mind spending extra for higher power supply noise, lower efficiency, and stupid RAM heatspreaders though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313255
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I agree with Myrmidon. Do not get RAM with headspreaders: they actually don't do anything and can interfere with large CPU coolers. RAM doesn't really get that hot. Also very few Newegg combo deals are worth anything. Most are just there to spur demand for specific slow moving products and to clear stock. Those that are worthwhile generally save very little and are kind of useless in the grand scheme of things.
Personally, I'd get a MSI Z77 board for $120 and a 2TB Hitachi Deskstar for $110 with the coupon. Combine with this chassis and you've got a very quiet system that cools very well too.
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