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On June 06 2012 03:31 Elairec wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 14:37 Myrmidon wrote:On June 05 2012 02:01 Grampz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Important questions you should ask yourself
If you request a build, please answer these questions. We will spend as much effort on your build as you spend on your answers to these questions! I urge people to abstain from providing builds unless all the questions are answered.
What is your budget?
500-610~$?
What is your resolution?
1440x900
What are you using it for?
Streaming SC2
What is your upgrade cycle?
Not Until it dies
When do you plan on building it?
Around june 19th
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
Probably. ( i have an XP CD at my old house but I just moved and I would have to find it )
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Internets $600 can get you a computer with Windows 7 that streams SC2 at reasonable quality, despite what some think. You can do that in a little over $500. You can spend a little more than this, but this system linkhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161386and adding the HD 6570 can play in medium-high on 1440x900 and stream pretty well. That should be well under $600 after tax, shipping, etc. Even getting all the individual parts yourself, which would cost a little more if you need to purchase Windows, would be possible under $610. Interesting you actually chose a prebuilt for this price range(most people say to stray away from any prebuild solutions, and its also within my price range as well). Just one question: Is there any underlying reason you chose the 6570 to add on besides the fact it is relatively cheap for decent performance?
Everything is for cost and to get an i5 in that budget.
HD 6570 is the cheapest non-trash graphics card out there. Also, you don't want to push the power supply with something that draws much more power. If you find extra money, HD 7750 is over twice as fast and uses barely more power. It would be able to run ultra at your resolution.
If you were to put parts together yourself, to get equivalent stuff, you would need to spend more money (roughly $190 CPU, $60 motherboard, $20 RAM, $60 hard drive, $15 optical drive, $35 case, $30 power supply, $100 Windows). However, you'd end up with something maybe a little more expandable, with greater individual warranties on parts, and so on.
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Hey guys, I was wondering if some of you could help me select parts for a computer mainly for streaming starcraft 2? I honestly have no idea what parts I would need.
If anyone can help my budget is between 1200-1400 dollars,
just PM me or reply here if you can help me! Thanks!
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Everything will fit.
But if all you're looking to do is stream LoL properly, you can do with a cheaper video card. And just get two of them. Something like an HD 5450 and HD 5670 should be plenty for LoL at 1080p and multiple monitors.
You also wouldn't need such a beastly PSU.
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Hi everyone
I was looking to get some feedback on a computer I am preparing to build.
Answers to OP.
+ Show Spoiler +
I plan to spend under $2000 but that needs to include OS and peripherys as well (monitor mouse keyboard etc).
Resolution is undetermined as of yet as I am buying the monitor. I would look to get a 22-24inch and am thinking 1920 by 1200 should be the goal.
I am looking only to game on it and I dont expect to be able to run skyrim on max graphics for example.
I expect it to last me a good few years (3minimum).
I will be building this month.
I dont plan on overclocking at all or running dual graphics cards.
I do need an operating system.
I am buying in Australia so I'll source from pccasegear.com or order through some local stores.
Anyway heres my list so far.
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen3 Motherboard
Intel i7 2600
G.Skill F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
PCI-e GTX 560 Ti SO 1GB Gigabyte
Corsair TX-650 V2
Fractal Design Define R3 Black USB 3.0
SanDisk Extreme Solid State Drive 240GB
for $1400 roughly
I'm looking for feedback. Anything I missed or any compatibility issues etc.
I can get a 480GB SSD for another $240 if I need more space but it isn't really a concern for me.
Thanks in advance
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On June 06 2012 19:11 deejay wrote:Hi everyone I was looking to get some feedback on a computer I am preparing to build. Answers to OP. + Show Spoiler +
I plan to spend under $2000 but that needs to include OS and peripherys as well (monitor mouse keyboard etc).
Resolution is undetermined as of yet as I am buying the monitor. I would look to get a 22-24inch and am thinking 1920 by 1200 should be the goal.
I am looking only to game on it and I dont expect to be able to run skyrim on max graphics for example.
I expect it to last me a good few years (3minimum).
I will be building this month.
I dont plan on overclocking at all or running dual graphics cards.
I do need an operating system.
I am buying in Australia so I'll source from pccasegear.com or order through some local stores.
Anyway heres my list so far. ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen3 Motherboard Intel i7 2600 G.Skill F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PCI-e GTX 560 Ti SO 1GB Gigabyte Corsair TX-650 V2 Fractal Design Define R3 Black USB 3.0 SanDisk Extreme Solid State Drive 240GB for $1400 roughly I'm looking for feedback. Anything I missed or any compatibility issues etc. I can get a 480GB SSD for another $240 if I need more space but it isn't really a concern for me. Thanks in advance
If you aren't overclocking, there is not much point spending so much money on a motherboard like that. The absolute limit should be an Intel H77 motherboard. While you are at it, get an Intel i7 3770. You can also drop the PSU to a 500W model, such as this.
Also, are you sure you need a 240GB SSD? What do you plan to do with it? It might be a lot smarter to just get a 128GB SSD from a reputable brand such as Crucial, Samsung, or Intel and pair it with a cheap 2TB storage drive. Because the only things that the SSD will improve are boot and program load speeds. Media consumption will not really benefit from an SSD.
If you do all of this, you save a lot of money. With that money you can pocket it or use it to upgrade to a much better sound system, upgrade the GPU, or get some very nice monitors. You don't actually need to spend all $2,000 keep in mind.
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You didn't state the purpose of the PC other than "This is for my parents", which doesn't mean much of anything unless I start making some assumptions. Saying "The bottleneck is intentionally on the GPU. If the bottleneck for my setup isn't the GPU, please tell me which component's too low." is not useful at all, because I can tell you that if you get an i5, you can get a $500+ GTX 680 and it won't be held back by the CPU in most games... but do your parents do high end gaming...? It would be a senseless purchase anyway for a 1680x1050 monitor
You're making a lot of false assumptions:
- "Monitor is 1600x1050 LED (kind of irrelevant)"
This is extremely relevant if they're gaming. It's an LCD monitor by the way. The backlighting is done by white LED's, which doesn't matter.
- PSU: "Don't like the brand but others are too expensive or unecessarily high wattage"
It may seem "too expensive" to you but that usually just means it's a good quality unit. This is how people end up buying garbage low-end PSU's that die/explode/destroy other components. You were right about unecessarily high wattage, though, as either of those systems don't need more than a good ~400W PSU (which wouldn't even be loaded to 50% of its capacity by either of those).
Your case is not a good choice and in general you're just better off filling out the form found in the first set of spoiler tags of the first post in this thread, and we can help you better optimize a build.
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Hey guys, I just started an account a few minutes ago for some build advice as I have recently started watching some casts never actually having played StarCraft and I wish to. I was just hoping for some advice on what I should I do in terms of buying a laptop to play it. I currently have a standard laptop with no ability to play games bar some 6/7 year old games and I don't have a big budget. What should I be looking in a laptop to play SC2?
I am sorry if I come across as rather annoying in this post as I have no idea what to do when it comes to specs on a computer and if this has already been answered. It's just that I don't think I have the time to read 1125 pages of posts. Thank you in advance if you take the time to answer and help me in this situation.
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Slightly unrelated question, but does anyone know why when I play a ladder 1v1 game on anything other than low settings, it takes like 30+ seconds to load? I have a 2500K OC to 4.3GHz, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Asus P8Z68-V/GEN3, 64GB Crucial M4 and a GTX 560Ti (Not the new one with 448 cores). I am assuming that it is internet related?
I currently get around 7Mbps download.
@Vikarrun I HIGHLY recommend getting a desktop PC if you have the room; Most laptops just aren't cut out for SC2 or the ones that are end up costing the same or more as a good custom built desktop PC. I learned this when researching as I was originally looking for a laptop but ended up with a desktop.
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@Mackem Well then, I'll probably have to wait a few years. I just wanted to see if I could have an alright PC that could play it on low settings as I am moving away to university in September. That's slightly disheartening as it's a game I'd like to get into because I love strategy games.
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I'm not saying you can't get laptops that can play it, but a lot of them have certain issues i.e. my friend has a quite good spec laptop (AMD Dual Core CPU, 4GB RAM, Mobility Radeon HD6770) but for example if it's a 200/200 army full of zerglings, his framerate practically drops to the point where its unplayable (Most times it drops to below 5 FPS). It all depends on how much you'd like to spend?
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Hi guys,
Following your multiple pieces of advice, i think i'm pretty much finished with selecting the components of my build. Just posting this for a last check:
+ Show Spoiler +
(yeah i forgot to take a cd/dvd burner, but i was too lazy to reload the image)
So here are my four last questions
-Is everything fitting alright together?
-I'm somewhat worried with the mobo choice, given i see Z77 everywhere. I was though told that the B75Pro3 was one worthy choice if i werent going to OC or anything crazy
-I don't find any GTX460 on the EU online stores. Either tell me where i can find one (save for one 200€ GPU i saw on alternate.nl i think), either tell me if my choice of getting a GTX550 is the right one, either convince me to spend an extra bit for the GTX560, given that im not really graphics oriented (running on med ftm, principally worried about getting everything as smooth as possible)
-I'm planning on building this after my finals, so it will be on like july the first or something like that, will there be some new crazy stuff (i mean that will concern my build) out till then?
Thank you and sorry for bad english
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Vikarrun, any ivy bridge i5 laptop will play starcraft on low-medium settings fine. Mackem's advice is focused on people who have been playing for a while and want to make sure everything is smooth and perfect, but for a beginning player, any ivy bridge laptop with a decent processor will be fine, as long as you don't need the highest graphics settings.
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Hey all, building a computer for the first time - er technically second if you count helping my buddy out with his build. The computer I have now just can't handle what I'd like to do. I've got a pretty fair understanding of computers except for processors and motherboards are my weak spot.
I'd like some advice on a processors first.
What I will be using my computer for: Gaming and streaming. Some photoshop.
Processors I like (Prefer quad core):
Intel i7 2700k Quad 3.5GHz
Intel i7 3820k Quad 3.6 GHz
Intel i5 2500k Quad 3.3 GHz
AMD Phenom II x4 965 (Black Ed.) Quad 3.4 GHz
Money is not a problem. I'd like top of the line parts and a fast computer.
Motherboard
Intel Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131821
AMD Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131735
I appreciate any help. Thanks.
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Hey everyone.
I'm trying to build a new computer based around very high quality streaming.
I've built a high end computer a year ago, but I still don't know too much about different parts and their plus and minuses.
I don't have a ceiling for my budget, I would like to go all out and make the best computer I can. My resolution will be 1920x1080, and I will be using SLI for multiple monitors.
I'm really at a bit of a standstill with the motherboard and cpu mixing and matching. At the moment I am looking at the i7-3930K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492
and the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802&Tpk=ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011
I've read good things about matching these together, but overclocking may be limited due to heat output from the 3930K. I will be using liquid cooling throughout my system so I am wondering if this will be much of a problem.
The above concern is my main issue I'd like help with.
As for the rest of my system I have planned on getting so far, I have the Intel 520 SSD 240GB and Kingston HyperX (4x4GB) 240-pin DDR3 SDRAM 2133. Any problems with these anyone can see? I've read 2133 ram is good for video encoding, which is a major reason I am building this system.
Thanks in advance for any help, it is much appreciated.
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Hey guys, need a little advice on by build! :D (btw im really new to building comps)
So far I've got
CPU: Intel i7 2500k or i7 2600k (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072)
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070) any suggestions on which to pick
GPU: either 2 GTX570s or 1 GTX 590
Motherboard : not sure (please suggest good ones)
RAM: Corsair 8g (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345) or 16g (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233288)
PSU: Corsair 750w PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021)
HDD: havent picked yet. Was wondering whether to go for a SSD HDD combo or just for a HDD.
Case: Cooler Master HAF (dont remember name excacltly but its full tower and should fit everything in)
I will also buy CPU cooler but i havent decided on it yet. Basically by goal here is to build a powerful gaming comp that would be able to run the higher up games that are out there today on semi-highest setting without having too much problem running them. My budget is like 1500 eurs( ~1900dollars? )
Any input would help alot and please pm with suggestions on how to improve the build
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I think that given what you invested in your cpu and gpu, it would be a real pithy not to opt for an SSD.
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