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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 17:46:53
June 08 2012 17:43 GMT
#22541
I'm not seeing how the MSI board lags behind in that review. Can you point it out specifically?

Edit: Eh if you're specifically talking about SATA performance, I wouldn't worry too much about that.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 19:52:48
June 08 2012 18:20 GMT
#22542
On June 09 2012 02:43 Womwomwom wrote:
I'm not seeing how the MSI board lags behind in that review. Can you point it out specifically?

Edit: Eh if you're specifically talking about SATA performance, I wouldn't worry too much about that.


Sata, POST, USB, Lan, ect.

Edit: In almost all of the comparison graphs the extreme4 outscores the GD65.
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findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
June 08 2012 21:14 GMT
#22543
a quick question- what CPU should I buy for plainly playing sc2/diablo3/dota2? I do not plan on overclocking.

i5 2500 or 3570? the price isn't really an issue, I just don't want to overkill. does it relate to the motherboard i'm using at all?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 08 2012 21:28 GMT
#22544
On June 09 2012 06:14 findingthelimit wrote:
a quick question- what CPU should I buy for plainly playing sc2/diablo3/dota2? I do not plan on overclocking.

i5 2500 or 3570? the price isn't really an issue, I just don't want to overkill. does it relate to the motherboard i'm using at all?

It just depends on how much extra work you want to do. i5-2500 if you have a h61/h67/p67/z68 motherboard and i5-3570 if you have a h77/b75/z75/z77 motherboard.
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FaCeful
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
June 08 2012 23:11 GMT
#22545
Hey,
will I be able to stream on low settings with this build?
It comes to 580€ including taxes so that would be great.


ASRock H67DE3 Intel H67 So.1155 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail
€ 76,89*

500GB Seagate Momentus M8 ST500LM012/ST500LM012 8MB 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 3Gb/s
€ 67,13*

450W KissQuiet Kiss Quiet KS-450US 14cm
€ 26,55*

4GB Kingston ValueRAM Single Rank DDR3-1333 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit
€ 24,00*

Casecom Business Series 7288 Midi Tower 500 Watt Klavierlack schwarz
€ 33,97*

512MB Sapphire Radeon HD 6770 Aktiv PCIe 2.0 x16 (Retail)
€ 94,80*

Intel Core i5 2500 4x 3.30GHz So.1155 BOX
€ 181,85*

thanks!
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 08 2012 23:17 GMT
#22546
On June 09 2012 08:11 FaCeful wrote:
Hey,
will I be able to stream on low settings with this build?
It comes to 580€ including taxes so that would be great.


ASRock H67DE3 Intel H67 So.1155 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail
€ 76,89*

500GB Seagate Momentus M8 ST500LM012/ST500LM012 8MB 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 3Gb/s
€ 67,13*

450W KissQuiet Kiss Quiet KS-450US 14cm
€ 26,55*

4GB Kingston ValueRAM Single Rank DDR3-1333 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit
€ 24,00*

Casecom Business Series 7288 Midi Tower 500 Watt Klavierlack schwarz
€ 33,97*

512MB Sapphire Radeon HD 6770 Aktiv PCIe 2.0 x16 (Retail)
€ 94,80*

Intel Core i5 2500 4x 3.30GHz So.1155 BOX
€ 181,85*

thanks!


Yes however the first time you stress test your computer your PSU will explode. Any case that comes with a PSU, the PSU is beyond horrible. Also where are you ordering from?
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FaCeful
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 23:52:10
June 08 2012 23:19 GMT
#22547
Thanks for the reply.
I buy from mindfactory since i live in germany.
What PSU should i buy then?

thanks!


EDIT: just realised i have a 500W PSU in the case. will that be enough?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 08 2012 23:58 GMT
#22548
On June 09 2012 08:19 FaCeful wrote:
Thanks for the reply.
I buy from mindfactory since i live in germany.
What PSU should i buy then?

thanks!

My bad I failed to see that you had a 450w PSU picked out, and that the Case just also came with one. Your also missing a Optical Drive (I gave up trying to find it after a few minutes of searching).



I would suggest going with 3rd gen Intel i5's, The ~10% more performance will help with streaming. I would go with these instead:

Asrock H77M mATX € 68,15
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p793732_ASRock-H77M-Intel-H77-So-1155-Dual-Channel-DDR3-mATX-Retail.html

Intel i5-3550 € 183,80
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p783861_Intel-Core-i5-3550-4x-3-30GHz-So-1155-BOX.html

Sapphire HD7750 € 94,93
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p788732_1024MB-Sapphire-Radeon-HD-7750-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Lite-Retail-.html

Corsair CX430 v2 € 39,16
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p743100_430W-Corsair-CX-Serie-V2.html

Fractal Core 100 mATX € 33,84
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p739898_Fractal-Core-1000-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz.html

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB € 61,19
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p684828_500GB-Western-Digital-Caviar-Blue-WD5000AAKX-16MB-3-5Zoll--8-9cm--SATA-6Gb-s.html

Corsair 4GB DDR3-1333 € 21,87
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p715606_4GB-Corsair-ValueSelect-DDR3-1333-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit.html

Total: 502.94+tax
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FaCeful
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 00:03:37
June 09 2012 00:00 GMT
#22549
Hey,
thank you very much! Just blew my mind that you did actually a complete new build for me, i rly appreciate it! ♥
Is it worth it to get 8gb of ram?

thanks!
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 09 2012 00:06 GMT
#22550
On June 09 2012 09:00 FaCeful wrote:
Hey,
thank you very much! Just blew my mind that you did actually a complete new build for me, i rly appreciate it! ♥
Is it worth it to get 8gb of ram?

thanks!


I'm not sure. The max amount of ram I've ever used at one time was ~2.5GB. If you want you can get 8GB of ram but I don't see it helping you stream.
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FaCeful
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
June 09 2012 00:14 GMT
#22551
It's not that I'm like "DURRR I NEED MOAR RAM!" but my current laptop (2 years old) has 4gb and it's a bit slow sometimes when I have multiple programms open (sc2+browser+music programm+ whatever comes up)
mahi29
Profile Joined May 2011
United States235 Posts
June 09 2012 00:28 GMT
#22552
When looking at memory to buy for my build - some of them have a 1.65 V and others have 1.5V and one of the reviewers on Newegg said that his processor didn't work w/ a 1.65 V and he had to dial it down to 1.5V. How can I tell what voltage my processor is compatible with?
These are the memory sticks I was looking at:1.65V 1.5V
Tentative Processor
The mind is its own place, and in it self Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 09 2012 00:37 GMT
#22553
On June 09 2012 09:28 mahi29 wrote:
When looking at memory to buy for my build - some of them have a 1.65 V and others have 1.5V and one of the reviewers on Newegg said that his processor didn't work w/ a 1.65 V and he had to dial it down to 1.5V. How can I tell what voltage my processor is compatible with?
These are the memory sticks I was looking at:1.65V 1.5V
Tentative Processor


Pretty simple 1.65v RAM is horrible. Just buy the 1.5v RAM.
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spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 06:13:11
June 09 2012 06:11 GMT
#22554
My PC isn't sending any signals to my monitor :/
I boot up the pc and the lights are flashing, and I hear the windows 7 boot up noises from my speakers- but no image, the monitor says No DVI signal or w/e.
No idea what to do.. :/
Maybe something to do with a failed shutdown? the night before this happened (yesterday) i kinda just pressed the power on/off button in the front panel and once i saw the on/off light go off i just let it be. Related??

specs:
PSU: CX500
Graphics card: HD6850
mobo: P61-USB3-B3 Gigabyte
Monitor- Asus 22''
CPU: i3 2100
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 06:36:28
June 09 2012 06:29 GMT
#22555
On June 09 2012 15:11 spaZzNx-` wrote:
My PC isn't sending any signals to my monitor :/
I boot up the pc and the lights are flashing, and I hear the windows 7 boot up noises from my speakers- but no image, the monitor says No DVI signal or w/e.
No idea what to do.. :/
Maybe something to do with a failed shutdown? the night before this happened (yesterday) i kinda just pressed the power on/off button in the front panel and once i saw the on/off light go off i just let it be. Related??

specs:
PSU: CX500
Graphics card: HD6850
mobo: P61-USB3-B3 Gigabyte
Monitor- Asus 22''
CPU: i3 2100


Is your monitor plugged in? Your DVI connections could be loose.

To test if your GPU is bad, plug your monitor into the dvi slot on the motherboard. Then turn it on, you should get a picture.

Edit: NVM about testing, you have the ONLY Motherboard made that doesn't have integraded graphics... I didn't even know that they made P61 boards before now.
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BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
June 09 2012 06:46 GMT
#22556
Hey guys I posted a question to your guys forums a while ago but I really having second though on the case I was getting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming for 50 bucks are there any other case for cheaper prices out there? I would like to get a case for atleast 50 dollar or cheaper I will be buying this case in this week or next week so asap. I would like to order Newegg
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
June 09 2012 06:57 GMT
#22557
On June 09 2012 15:29 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 15:11 spaZzNx-` wrote:
My PC isn't sending any signals to my monitor :/
I boot up the pc and the lights are flashing, and I hear the windows 7 boot up noises from my speakers- but no image, the monitor says No DVI signal or w/e.
No idea what to do.. :/
Maybe something to do with a failed shutdown? the night before this happened (yesterday) i kinda just pressed the power on/off button in the front panel and once i saw the on/off light go off i just let it be. Related??

specs:
PSU: CX500
Graphics card: HD6850
mobo: P61-USB3-B3 Gigabyte
Monitor- Asus 22''
CPU: i3 2100


Is your monitor plugged in? Your DVI connections could be loose.

To test if your GPU is bad, plug your monitor into the dvi slot on the motherboard. Then turn it on, you should get a picture.

Edit: NVM about testing, you have the ONLY Motherboard made that doesn't have integraded graphics... I didn't even know that they made P61 boards before now.


Nope, DVI connections are all secure. should;ve included that in the OP.
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 09 2012 07:10 GMT
#22558
On June 09 2012 15:57 spaZzNx-` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 15:29 iTzSnypah wrote:
On June 09 2012 15:11 spaZzNx-` wrote:
My PC isn't sending any signals to my monitor :/
I boot up the pc and the lights are flashing, and I hear the windows 7 boot up noises from my speakers- but no image, the monitor says No DVI signal or w/e.
No idea what to do.. :/
Maybe something to do with a failed shutdown? the night before this happened (yesterday) i kinda just pressed the power on/off button in the front panel and once i saw the on/off light go off i just let it be. Related??

specs:
PSU: CX500
Graphics card: HD6850
mobo: P61-USB3-B3 Gigabyte
Monitor- Asus 22''
CPU: i3 2100


Is your monitor plugged in? Your DVI connections could be loose.

To test if your GPU is bad, plug your monitor into the dvi slot on the motherboard. Then turn it on, you should get a picture.

Edit: NVM about testing, you have the ONLY Motherboard made that doesn't have integraded graphics... I didn't even know that they made P61 boards before now.


Nope, DVI connections are all secure. should;ve included that in the OP.

We'll you could clear your CMOS. Its my only idea. I had to do that multiple times to get a signal when installing w7 because my brother kept screwing up the boot sequence.
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spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
June 09 2012 07:14 GMT
#22559
How do I do that...? What does clearing the CMOS entail? rebooting my OS? :/
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 09 2012 07:25 GMT
#22560
On June 09 2012 16:14 spaZzNx-` wrote:
How do I do that...? What does clearing the CMOS entail? rebooting my OS? :/

All clearing the CMOS will do is reset your boot sequence, reset time/date. It should do nothing...

Open up your case. Next to a battery below your GPU will be a button. Press it after hitting the off switch on your PSU.
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