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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Kuznagi
Canada58 Posts
With the price drops of the ATI Series, I was able to get the OC 7970 PMed for $460 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38047 And the GTX680 is rarely in stock but proly still performs slightly better, it will probably cost 510-530. Which card would you recommend getting? Anyone have experience with Gigabyte warranty? Should I get extended warranty on this GPU? Thanks. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:31 JingleHell wrote: Why exactly are you worried about that much SATA 6Gb? Need a lot of SSDs for some strange reason? Lol, not this shit again. The reason isn't exactly important, I just think it's strange to stick by older standards. I don't think the manufacturing cost should be any different. Seriously, my 3 year old AM3 board has exclusively sata 6gb ports. You'd think that intel would at least stop it with their childish standards in order to cripple all the motherboard manufacturers, not just about this matter but other standards as well. I'm really not keen on buying an intel chipset motherboard but since there is no more competition, there is no choice. On April 17 2012 02:49 skyR wrote: Pretty sure ASUS doesn't have a single mATX Z77 board with eight SATA ports. All third party chipsets suck in comparison to Intel's but I think this is common knowledge isn't it? P8Z77-M PRO has 4x 3gb, 2x6gb and 2x6gb asmedia ports. That's 8 isn't it? I know that the Marvell ports are terrible but I was thinking that maybe the Asmedia ports are remotely equal to intels 6gb? *edit* oh it's esata, but my point still stands as asrock has normal sata ports. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On April 16 2012 06:50 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: ok seems like ill build in a month or so with a 700-800€ budget. plan is a i5-2500k setup. will decide between a 560ti 448,570 and the 7870 cards depending on price when i buy. will keep old hdd and ssd and get a random 50€ psu with good reviews. what i need help with is a) mobo . wont run any sli/crossx stuff, just want a good quality board thats fine for overclocking. had around 300€ in mind for cpu + mobo, with the 2500k currently around 180 that leaves 120. b) case. thats a hard choice for me since i never really cared. willing to spend around 100€ on it. looks arent that important (as long as its not some military crap design) . quality ,features and if possible some silent stuff is what im lookin for. will overclock both cpu and gpu so airflow should be decent aswell. reposting :> | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 17 2012 03:17 Shauni wrote: Lol, not this shit again. The reason isn't exactly important, I just think it's strange to stick by older standards. I don't think the manufacturing cost should be any different. Seriously, my 3 year old AM3 board has exclusively sata 6gb ports. You'd think that intel would at least stop it with their childish standards in order to cripple all the motherboard manufacturers, not just about this matter but other standards as well. I'm really not keen on buying an intel chipset motherboard but since there is no more competition, there is no choice. P8Z77-M PRO has 4x 3gb, 2x6gb and 2x6gb asmedia ports. That's 8 isn't it? I know that the Marvell ports are terrible but I was thinking that maybe the Asmedia ports are remotely equal to intels 6gb? The reason IS important, since some of the options don't support RAID across all of their SATA 6Gb ports, only the stock intel ones. So if you need to RAID whatever you're planning to slap them on, you may end up needing another solution for controlling it. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 17 2012 03:17 Shauni wrote: Lol, not this shit again. The reason isn't exactly important, I just think it's strange to stick by older standards. I don't think the manufacturing cost should be any different. Seriously, my 3 year old AM3 board has exclusively sata 6gb ports. You'd think that intel would at least stop it with their childish standards in order to cripple all the motherboard manufacturers, not just about this matter but other standards as well. I'm really not keen on buying an intel chipset motherboard but since there is no more competition, there is no choice. P8Z77-M PRO has 4x 3gb, 2x6gb and 2x6gb asmedia ports. That's 8 isn't it? I know that the Marvell ports are terrible but I was thinking that maybe the Asmedia ports are remotely equal to intels 6gb? Asmedia chipset provides eSATA ports. Marvell is used on ASUS's flagship boards so it would be safe to assume that Marvell > Asmedia. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On April 17 2012 03:27 skyR wrote: Asmedia chipset provides eSATA ports. Marvell is used on ASUS's flagship boards so it would be safe to assume that Marvell > Asmedia. Are you sure everything is for eSATA? The ASRock spec only says the following: - 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s connectors by Intel® Z77, support RAID (RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 10, Intel® Rapid Storage and Intel® Smart Response Technology), NCQ, AHCI and "Hot Plug" functions - 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s connectors by ASMedia ASM1061, support NCQ, AHCI and "Hot Plug" functions (SATA3_A2 connector is shared with eSATA3 port) On April 17 2012 03:25 JingleHell wrote: The reason IS important, since some of the options don't support RAID across all of their SATA 6Gb ports, only the stock intel ones. So if you need to RAID whatever you're planning to slap them on, you may end up needing another solution for controlling it. I'd rather not to RAID, but since I'll be using more than 2 SSDs in it, it feels dumb to go back to SATA 3gb/s ports just because...intel. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 17 2012 04:04 Shauni wrote: Are you sure everything is for eSATA? The ASRock spec only says the following: I'd rather not to RAID, but since I'll be using more than 2 SSDs in it, it feels dumb to go back to SATA 3gb/s ports just because...intel. Well, if you're not going to RAID, it's less to worry about is all. Also, unless you're planning to do a lot of transferring from one drive to another, you won't notice much of a difference between 3Gb and 6Gb. You planning to saturate multiple NICs? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
For whatever reason, even the world's largest producer of SSDs (I'm guessing; maybe not) doesn't even think chipsets need more than two SATA3 ports these days. Or maybe they're just throwing a bone to motherboard manufacturers, allowing for more product differentiation. PCI Express SSDs are where it's at anyway, if you want speed. As has been mentioned, SATA3 SSDs indeed work on SATA2 ports, and quite quickly as well. Yeah, you'll be bottlenecked in large sequential reads, but that's mostly it. | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
ask again in a month or so, technology moves too fast. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On April 17 2012 04:20 Myrmidon wrote: It's about principles I guess? Also loading media files a few miliseconds faster? For whatever reason, even the world's largest producer of SSDs (I'm guessing; maybe not) doesn't even think chipsets need more than two SATA3 ports these days. Or maybe they're just throwing a bone to motherboard manufacturers, allowing for more product differentiation. PCI Express SSDs are where it's at anyway, if you want speed. As has been mentioned, SATA3 SSDs indeed work on SATA2 ports, and quite quickly as well. Yeah, you'll be bottlenecked in large sequential reads, but that's mostly it. Yeah, I know it's not a huge difference (today), but since you're upgrading it's a bit disappointing to... downgrade your motherboard functions. And regarding product differentiation, I barely see any differentiation in the Z77 motherboards, even if I look at normal ATX boards. I thought this was due to intel having some strict guidelines of how the chipset should not be modified (and licensing fees on the functions you actually can add)? | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On April 17 2012 04:35 iKill[ShocK] wrote: ask again in a month or so, technology moves too fast. poorly worded i guess. will buy between now and 1 month.depending on how stuff works out i might even order before the weekend /edit also guess mobos and cases dont change that much in 1 month  | ||
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FaCeful
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since I don't want to open a new thread just for this I will post it here. Dunno if its the right thread to ask for someone to tell me a gaming build of just to give a gaming build and leave for open disussion, so please be kind and sry for bad english! So I want to buy an new gaming PC cause at the moment I play on a laptop which lags when I have one stream and SCII open! My budget: if its under 600 including a monitor its ok! resolution: 1600x900 is what I have atm dunno if thats needed or not i will use it for gaming and streaming (when I'm finally good enough  )when i want to build it: asap :D overclock: no dont need OS I live in EU so buying parts will be harder I bet. Hopefully you can tell me where to buy! I will give you a list of parts that I saw quite frequently in the TL forums dunno if they are still viable or not. Maybe they are a random mixture of more or less good parts because I dont know much about building PCs: CPU: i5 2500k Mobo: dunno RAM: 4gb kingston 1333ghz GPU: dunno PSU: dunno Case: any case is fine for. dont need blinky stuff ok at the end i know even less about PCs then i thought maybe i shouldnt post this cause i just get bashed for seeming to not read through the forums which i will def do short after posting this. But if someone wants to help me I would appreciate that.  | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 17 2012 04:55 Shauni wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On April 17 2012 04:20 Myrmidon wrote: It's about principles I guess? Also loading media files a few miliseconds faster? For whatever reason, even the world's largest producer of SSDs (I'm guessing; maybe not) doesn't even think chipsets need more than two SATA3 ports these days. Or maybe they're just throwing a bone to motherboard manufacturers, allowing for more product differentiation. PCI Express SSDs are where it's at anyway, if you want speed. As has been mentioned, SATA3 SSDs indeed work on SATA2 ports, and quite quickly as well. Yeah, you'll be bottlenecked in large sequential reads, but that's mostly it. Yeah, I know it's not a huge difference (today), but since you're upgrading it's a bit disappointing to... downgrade your motherboard functions. And regarding product differentiation, I barely see any differentiation in the Z77 motherboards, even if I look at normal ATX boards. I thought this was due to intel having some strict guidelines of how the chipset should not be modified (and licensing fees on the functions you actually can add)? The Intel chipset can't be modified, otherwise it wouldn't be called a Z77. Manufacturers pick and choose for other chipsets. There's quite a bit of differentiation between the Z77 so if you can't differentiate between them than you simply don't care about the differences. Asrock elects to use a shitty Broadcom NIC, Gigabyte uses some shitty Atheros NIC, while ASUS and MSI uses Intel and Realtek. Gigabyte also uses shitty VIA audio while everyone else uses Realtek. Gigabyte has dual UEFI BIOS, ASUS has wifi, and so on. ASUS, Asrock, and Gigabyte all opted to provide more USB3 ports through other chipsets while MSI doesn't. Also, ASUS engineers are apparently geniuses. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 17 2012 04:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On April 17 2012 04:35 iKill[ShocK] wrote: ask again in a month or so, technology moves too fast. poorly worded i guess. will buy between now and 1 month.depending on how stuff works out i might even order before the weekend /edit also guess mobos and cases dont change that much in 1 month Asrock P67 Pro3, ASUS P8Z68-M Pro / P8Z77-M Pro, MSI Z77MA G45 / Z77A G43 Corsair 550D | ||
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minitelemaster
United States95 Posts
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255 Also, is this ram a good deal? It's cas11, but I don't know if that will have a noticeable effect. Maybe it would oc well due to the low voltage. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148477 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Memory is okay, you can just run at 1.5v if you want cas9. | ||
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minitelemaster
United States95 Posts
On April 17 2012 05:29 skyR wrote: Bitfenix Outlaw is good. Memory is okay, you can just run at 1.5v if you want cas9. Sounds good, thank you. | ||
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