EPTAlso for case mods Im sorry but the stores are sold out. You'll need to get this case:
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Ok seriously if you can find a HAF 912 then go for it.
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Medrea
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Also for case mods Im sorry but the stores are sold out. You'll need to get this case: + Show Spoiler + Or this case: + Show Spoiler + Ok seriously if you can find a HAF 912 then go for it. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 16 2012 07:16 andReslic wrote: theres a phenom x6core http://www.digitalife.com.mx/producto/9557/AMD/PROCESADOR-PHENOM-II-X6-1055T-X6-SKAM3-HDT55TFBGRBOX thats around $200 USD, I guess thats good? or a CORE I3 550 3.2GHZ SK1156 BX80616I3550 wich is like $140 ) or a CORE I5 2310 2.90GHZ SK1155 BX80623I52310 ? it costs the same as the phenom II X6 Also, any good video cards around $100? Thanks for your help btw (post from my thread) Well, AMD CPUs suck, no two ways about it. i3 550 is first gen and obsolete, along with anything socket 1156 or 1366. | ||
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andReslic
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On April 16 2012 07:21 JingleHell wrote: Well, AMD CPUs suck, no two ways about it. i3 550 is first gen and obsolete, along with anything socket 1156 or 1366. So, wich one do you recommend? I dont get the "i3 550 is first gen and obsolete" part sorry hehe, just in case I found this one: Intel Core i3 2120 a 3.3 GHz con Intel HD Graphics 2000, Socket 1155, L3 Cache 3MB, Dual-Core, 32nm just for $15-20 more (i also found the 2100 i3) is it better for sc2 and new games in general? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 16 2012 07:29 andReslic wrote: So, wich one do you recommend? I dont get the "i3 550 is first gen and obsolete" part sorry hehe, just in case I found this one: Intel Core i3 2120 a 3.3 GHz con Intel HD Graphics 2000, Socket 1155, L3 Cache 3MB, Dual-Core, 32nm just for $15-20 more (i also found the 2100 i3) is it better for sc2 and new games in general? CPU sockets LGA 1156 and 1366 have been replaced and outdated by sockets 1155 and 2011 respectively. 1366 and the successor 2011 are enthusiast hardware, huge cost premium for better (for some things, rarely gaming) hardware. The first generation core i3/5/7 CPUs are on the older sockets. Second gen is 1155 such as i3 2100, i5 2400 and 2500k, and i7 2600k. LGA 2011 is pointless for most people, especially if they aren't planning to dump $3k+ into a machine for mucking around with benchmarking, folding, or multi-display gaming. | ||
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andReslic
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On April 16 2012 07:34 JingleHell wrote: CPU sockets LGA 1156 and 1366 have been replaced and outdated by sockets 1155 and 2011 respectively. 1366 and the successor 2011 are enthusiast hardware, huge cost premium for better (for some things, rarely gaming) hardware. The first generation core i3/5/7 CPUs are on the older sockets. Second gen is 1155 such as i3 2100, i5 2400 and 2500k, and i7 2600k. LGA 2011 is pointless for most people, especially if they aren't planning to dump $3k+ into a machine for mucking around with benchmarking, folding, or multi-display gaming. 2120 is 1155, I think thats good then or if I get more money I could get i5 2310 | ||
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TT1
Canada10104 Posts
budget: 1k-1.5k, should be enought for wat im looking for but im willing to go higher if theres a huge difference in performance requirements: - i want a lagless gaming experience while streaming SC2 at 1080p(basically high fps while streaming) and i want my computer to be extremely quiet - i will OC my cpu - i dont need an OS - gonna buy the parts from ncix.ca | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 16 2012 07:40 andReslic wrote: 2120 is 1155, I think thats good then or if I get more money I could get i5 2310 Yes, those are both 1155. Those match socket LGA 1155 motherboards, just so you know. H61, H67, P67, and Z68. Your best bet, though, is instead of just trying to ask questions involving a CPU, say specifically what you need based off the OP of this thread. You'll get better answers that way. | ||
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andReslic
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On April 16 2012 07:43 JingleHell wrote: Yes, those are both 1155. Those match socket LGA 1155 motherboards, just so you know. H61, H67, P67, and Z68. Your best bet, though, is instead of just trying to ask questions involving a CPU, say specifically what you need based off the OP of this thread. You'll get better answers that way. Alright  Thanks for your help! | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
A lot of people seem to recommend getting a ~120GB SSD instead of a ~60GB one for your OS - why is that? What's the benefit if I just want to use it for the OS exclusively? No windows version needs or uses more than ~60GB surely? Or is it common for people to store other stuff on the SSD in the end anyways and that's why ~120GB SSDs are recommended so frequently? Would it make sense to put other applications that have a significant loading time (Photoshop, Starcraft II, anything like that) on the SSD as well? Do I need an after-market cooler or additional fans when I know I won't over-clock and I'm not particularly picky about noise levels? Say I'd buy a case (which comes with fans of course), use some second generation Intel CPU (i7 2600K for example, with the stock cooler) and something like an Nvidia GTX 560 TI as GPU? In my opinion, the core of any build is a balanced CPU/GPU combination, given the hardware I mentioned in the question above I would pay about 600€ for both components, pretty much 50/50 split between CPU and GPU. Is this a good idea or would you recommend spending 60% or more on the GPU or CPU? I'm looking to do just about anything with the computer, gaming, streaming, video editing and 3D modeling. Thanks ahead of time! | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 16 2012 08:31 NihiLStarcraft wrote: I have a couple short questions that don't really warrant their own thread so I'm posting them here! A lot of people seem to recommend getting a ~120GB SSD instead of a ~60GB one for your OS - why is that? What's the benefit if I just want to use it for the OS exclusively? No windows version needs or uses more than ~60GB surely? Or is it common for people to store other stuff on the SSD in the end anyways and that's why ~120GB SSDs are recommended so frequently? Would it make sense to put other applications that have a significant loading time (Photoshop, Starcraft II, anything like that) on the SSD as well? Do I need an after-market cooler or additional fans when I know I won't over-clock and I'm not particularly picky about noise levels? Say I'd buy a case (which comes with fans of course), use some second generation Intel CPU (i7 2600K for example, which comes with a stock cooler of course) and something like an Nvidia GTX 560 TI as GPU? In my opinion, the core of any build is a balanced CPU/GPU combination, given the hardware I mentioned in the question above I would pay about 600€ for both components, pretty much 50/50 split between CPU and GPU. Is this a good idea or would you recommend spending 60% or more on the GPU or CPU? I'm looking to do just about anything with the computer, gaming, streaming, video editing and 3D modeling. Thanks ahead of time! You can only optimize a build with more specific information. Answer the questions in the OP. I personally use a 60GB SSD for OS, drivers, and small stuff like adobe. Everything else goes on a caviar black. You get 120GB+ if you want to run some games off it as well. 120GB will be slightly faster than 60 in the same model due to the way the controller works, but it's miniscule. You don't need aftermarket cooling if you aren't OCing, but a -k CPU is ONLY for overclocking, so that's a terrible example. | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
So how is the speed increase in loading time for applications I put on an SSD alongside the OS when compared to having them on an HDD? Is it as amazing as it is for the OS boot time? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 16 2012 08:39 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Ah, thanks for the input! I should have mentioned that I'm not looking to optimize any build in particular at the moment, I'm still in the pre-planning phase pretty much, these were just general questions! So how is the speed increase in loading time for applications I put on an SSD alongside the OS when compared to having them on an HDD? Is it as amazing as it is for the OS boot time? Depends on the specific application. But yeah, it's pretty damn huge. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If you're not overclocking and don't care much about noise, you don't need any extra fans or coolers. You also don't need to pay extra for a K-suffix processor, which designates a model that lets you overclock. 50/50 on CPU/GPU can make sense, but that's very arbitrary. | ||
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On April 16 2012 10:24 skyR wrote: Lol you're doing something wrong if Windows 7 is 40gb. 60gb is more than enough for the OS itself. OS, pagefile, drivers, adobe, random other little shit, and then some. In fact, my win7 seems to only be ~15GB on it's own. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On April 16 2012 07:43 mTwTT1 wrote: ok im ready to build my computer! budget: 1k-1.5k, should be enought for wat im looking for but im willing to go higher if theres a huge difference in performance requirements: - i want a lagless gaming experience while streaming SC2 at 1080p(basically high fps while streaming) and i want my computer to be extremely quiet - i will OC my cpu - i dont need an OS - gonna buy the parts from ncix.ca Since nobody else is posting... CPU: i7-2600k 341.80 CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=57960&vpn=BX80623I72600K&manufacture=Intel Mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme Gen3 154.10 CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=63945&vpn=Z68 Extreme3 Gen3&manufacture=ASRock GPU: XFX 7970 499.90 CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=67627&vpn=FX797ATNBC&manufacture=Others RAM: Kingston HyperX 1600 2*4GB 48.98 CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=57869&vpn=KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1259 CPU Heatsink: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo 34.48 CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=64385&vpn=RR-212E-20PK-R2&manufacture=COOLERMASTER PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 520w 89.95 CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=56787&vpn=HCG-520&manufacture=Antec CASE: Antec Three Hundred Mid Tower 54.98 CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=67326&vpn=THREE HUNDRED TWO&manufacture=Antec HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm 109.98 CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate Optical Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST SATA DVD Writer OEM 19.99CAD http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1259 Total: 1354.25CAD +Shipping. I would prefer to get a GTX 680. But seeing as they are ALL out of stock it isn't going to happen. | ||
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