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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
April 10 2012 18:02 GMT
#20461
maybe I should replace the case because this one has like no room for cable management
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 10 2012 20:16 GMT
#20462
On April 11 2012 02:19 xeo1 wrote:
could you guys help me diagnose what part could be causing my PC to not boot up? I have to hit the tower, then something beeps, and then the keyboard/mouse/monitor turn on and it boots up.

also, how come only 3 of the 4 gigs are showing under system?

the parts are:

intel core quad Q8400 2.66 ghz
asus 780i P5N72-T mobo
2x2 GB PC6400 DDR2 800 RAM
320GB SATA II 3GB 16MB 7200 RPM HD
EVGA nvidia GTX 260 CORE 216 896MB PCI-E
corsair CX430 V2
x-cruiser mid tower
lite-on 24x DVDRW/12-in-one itnernal card reader

I rather replace a defected part as opposed to buying a new PC, as this one is still decent.


Sorry, but this might just be one of the funniest problems I've heard of in a while, lol.

Do you hit the power button then smack it, or does just nothing happen when you hit the power button? Honestly, there's nothing about hitting a tower that should cause it to boot. Unless the power cable was loose and hitting it was causing it to connect?

On April 11 2012 02:28 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
BTW don't hit it, every time i see someone hit a computer i die a little inside.


Clearly you've never worked in IT.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 22:41:24
April 10 2012 22:40 GMT
#20463
is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188097 with the MIR a good deal? My brother was looking at it for a computer he is going to build
(he's getting a 2500k and ocing it)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 10 2012 22:43 GMT
#20464
On April 11 2012 07:40 Ettick wrote:
is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188097 with the MIR a good deal? My brother was looking at it for a computer he is going to build
(he's getting a 2500k and ocing it)


Not likely. If you're asking that question, the answer is almost always no, don't get a high end enthusiast motherboard. If you're asking by proxy, the answer involves breaking your knuckles by facepalming while still in the middle of performing an epic faceplant on the keyboard.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
April 10 2012 23:39 GMT
#20465
On April 11 2012 07:43 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:40 Ettick wrote:
is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188097 with the MIR a good deal? My brother was looking at it for a computer he is going to build
(he's getting a 2500k and ocing it)


Not likely. If you're asking that question, the answer is almost always no, don't get a high end enthusiast motherboard. If you're asking by proxy, the answer involves breaking your knuckles by facepalming while still in the middle of performing an epic faceplant on the keyboard.


recommending the cheapest available p67 motherboard is fine and all, but most of the more expensive motherboards have better phases for the power with better caps, stuff like that. It can actually make a difference when overclocking.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 23:47:47
April 10 2012 23:43 GMT
#20466
On April 11 2012 08:39 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 07:43 JingleHell wrote:
On April 11 2012 07:40 Ettick wrote:
is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188097 with the MIR a good deal? My brother was looking at it for a computer he is going to build
(he's getting a 2500k and ocing it)


Not likely. If you're asking that question, the answer is almost always no, don't get a high end enthusiast motherboard. If you're asking by proxy, the answer involves breaking your knuckles by facepalming while still in the middle of performing an epic faceplant on the keyboard.


recommending the cheapest available p67 motherboard is fine and all, but most of the more expensive motherboards have better phases for the power with better caps, stuff like that. It can actually make a difference when overclocking.


Yes, but we're getting a "my brother is planning to build" question for an EVGA SLI board. Unless he needs the warranty service, he can easily buy a cheaper board with enough phases to handle a reasonable OC. This clearly isn't being asked on behalf of someone who's got a use for custom loops and extreme voltages, who probably couldn't tell you why they'd want AA for SLI to matter, and just wants to buy expensive shit because they think dollars equal frames, and you can totally see the difference between 60 FPS and 120 FPS on a 60hz display.

Enthusiast components are a waste of money for most people, and this is pretty blatantly one of those cases.

Believe me, if an EVGA component makes even vague sense for someone, I'm the first to suggest it. I love their warranty, and I love their quality. But if it doesn't make sense, I tell them not to waste money.

To give you an idea, here's a link to my thread on their boards about the custom rainmeter skin pack I did a while back. I just REALLY don't think it makes sense in some cases.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
April 11 2012 01:05 GMT
#20467
On April 11 2012 05:16 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 02:19 xeo1 wrote:
could you guys help me diagnose what part could be causing my PC to not boot up? I have to hit the tower, then something beeps, and then the keyboard/mouse/monitor turn on and it boots up.

also, how come only 3 of the 4 gigs are showing under system?

the parts are:

intel core quad Q8400 2.66 ghz
asus 780i P5N72-T mobo
2x2 GB PC6400 DDR2 800 RAM
320GB SATA II 3GB 16MB 7200 RPM HD
EVGA nvidia GTX 260 CORE 216 896MB PCI-E
corsair CX430 V2
x-cruiser mid tower
lite-on 24x DVDRW/12-in-one itnernal card reader

I rather replace a defected part as opposed to buying a new PC, as this one is still decent.


Sorry, but this might just be one of the funniest problems I've heard of in a while, lol.

Do you hit the power button then smack it, or does just nothing happen when you hit the power button? Honestly, there's nothing about hitting a tower that should cause it to boot. Unless the power cable was loose and hitting it was causing it to connect?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 02:28 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
BTW don't hit it, every time i see someone hit a computer i die a little inside.


Clearly you've never worked in IT.


lol. the PC turns on, but the keyboard/mouse/monitor don't turn on. so when I hit the top of the tower, something beeps, and everything turns on.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 01:41:54
April 11 2012 01:41 GMT
#20468
Just remove and resocket everything. Clearly something is barely not connected or disconnected. You are probably causing a massive amount of pitting by doing what you are doing.
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 11 2012 01:43 GMT
#20469
On April 11 2012 10:05 xeo1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 05:16 TheToast wrote:
On April 11 2012 02:19 xeo1 wrote:
could you guys help me diagnose what part could be causing my PC to not boot up? I have to hit the tower, then something beeps, and then the keyboard/mouse/monitor turn on and it boots up.

also, how come only 3 of the 4 gigs are showing under system?

the parts are:

intel core quad Q8400 2.66 ghz
asus 780i P5N72-T mobo
2x2 GB PC6400 DDR2 800 RAM
320GB SATA II 3GB 16MB 7200 RPM HD
EVGA nvidia GTX 260 CORE 216 896MB PCI-E
corsair CX430 V2
x-cruiser mid tower
lite-on 24x DVDRW/12-in-one itnernal card reader

I rather replace a defected part as opposed to buying a new PC, as this one is still decent.


Sorry, but this might just be one of the funniest problems I've heard of in a while, lol.

Do you hit the power button then smack it, or does just nothing happen when you hit the power button? Honestly, there's nothing about hitting a tower that should cause it to boot. Unless the power cable was loose and hitting it was causing it to connect?

On April 11 2012 02:28 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
BTW don't hit it, every time i see someone hit a computer i die a little inside.


Clearly you've never worked in IT.


lol. the PC turns on, but the keyboard/mouse/monitor don't turn on. so when I hit the top of the tower, something beeps, and everything turns on.


That something would be your BIOS POST beep, most likely. Or possibly your computer censoring it's reaction to being hit, which can cause damage to certain components.

But without trying things and telling us whether they worked or not, you've gotten all the sensible answers you're going to get. The other option would be to replace your CPU, Mobo, RAM, GPU, PSU, case, HDD, and optical all at once. That SHOULD fix your current problems*.

*+ Show Spoiler +
Not really, since there's no known way to fix being thick enough to hit a PC that you're financially responsible for the well-being of.
Akusa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States62 Posts
April 11 2012 01:59 GMT
#20470
If you keep hitting it the problem might fix itself.
+ Show Spoiler +
Probably not though.
Merik
Profile Joined March 2011
55 Posts
April 11 2012 02:04 GMT
#20471
What do you guys think about this, is it complete? can it last for about 3 years for gaming on 1920x1080 on highest?

Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
Graphics: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Monitor: Iiyama ProLite E2407HDS-B1 24"
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W PSU
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
DVD drive: ASUS DRW-24B3ST
SSD: Corsair CSSD-F60GB3A-BK
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3)
HDD: Seagate ST500DM002
Memory: Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

total is 1150 euro (about 920 euro without monitor and OS), do i need to change anything or is it ok?

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 11 2012 02:10 GMT
#20472
On April 11 2012 11:04 Merik wrote:
What do you guys think about this, is it complete? can it last for about 3 years for gaming on 1920x1080 on highest?

Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
Graphics: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Monitor: Iiyama ProLite E2407HDS-B1 24"
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W PSU
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
DVD drive: ASUS DRW-24B3ST
SSD: Corsair CSSD-F60GB3A-BK
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3)
HDD: Seagate ST500DM002
Memory: Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

total is 1150 euro (about 920 euro without monitor and OS), do i need to change anything or is it ok?



Do you have a preference between Biblical prophecy and seance for determining what the system requirements of games that haven't even been announced yet will be? It might make a difference.

Probably not everything on highest, but close if you don't care about maxing AA. (You really shouldn't, but you probably do, and ironically for the same reason: not understanding how much difference it really makes to you.) Aside from that, Corsair Force uses a Sandforce controller, known reliability issues. You don't need a 2GB 560Ti for almost anything, especially at that resolution. But yes, you seem to have all the basic components.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 11 2012 02:12 GMT
#20473
On April 11 2012 11:04 Merik wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What do you guys think about this, is it complete? can it last for about 3 years for gaming on 1920x1080 on highest?

Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
Graphics: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Monitor: Iiyama ProLite E2407HDS-B1 24"
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W PSU
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
DVD drive: ASUS DRW-24B3ST
SSD: Corsair CSSD-F60GB3A-BK
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3)
HDD: Seagate ST500DM002
Memory: Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

total is 1150 euro (about 920 euro without monitor and OS), do i need to change anything or is it ok?


A 600w unit is unnecessary since you won't be doing SLI, just get a 500w unit. OCZ ModXStream Pro isn't that great but it's okay if that's all you have available to you...

A 2GB GTX 560 Ti is seriously a stupid waste of money. Just get a Radeon HD7850 which most likely costs less and is overall better.

Corsair memory is usually overpriced.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
April 11 2012 02:15 GMT
#20474
On April 11 2012 10:43 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 10:05 xeo1 wrote:
On April 11 2012 05:16 TheToast wrote:
On April 11 2012 02:19 xeo1 wrote:
could you guys help me diagnose what part could be causing my PC to not boot up? I have to hit the tower, then something beeps, and then the keyboard/mouse/monitor turn on and it boots up.

also, how come only 3 of the 4 gigs are showing under system?

the parts are:

intel core quad Q8400 2.66 ghz
asus 780i P5N72-T mobo
2x2 GB PC6400 DDR2 800 RAM
320GB SATA II 3GB 16MB 7200 RPM HD
EVGA nvidia GTX 260 CORE 216 896MB PCI-E
corsair CX430 V2
x-cruiser mid tower
lite-on 24x DVDRW/12-in-one itnernal card reader

I rather replace a defected part as opposed to buying a new PC, as this one is still decent.


Sorry, but this might just be one of the funniest problems I've heard of in a while, lol.

Do you hit the power button then smack it, or does just nothing happen when you hit the power button? Honestly, there's nothing about hitting a tower that should cause it to boot. Unless the power cable was loose and hitting it was causing it to connect?

On April 11 2012 02:28 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
BTW don't hit it, every time i see someone hit a computer i die a little inside.


Clearly you've never worked in IT.


lol. the PC turns on, but the keyboard/mouse/monitor don't turn on. so when I hit the top of the tower, something beeps, and everything turns on.


That something would be your BIOS POST beep, most likely. Or possibly your computer censoring it's reaction to being hit, which can cause damage to certain components.

But without trying things and telling us whether they worked or not, you've gotten all the sensible answers you're going to get. The other option would be to replace your CPU, Mobo, RAM, GPU, PSU, case, HDD, and optical all at once. That SHOULD fix your current problems*.

*+ Show Spoiler +
Not really, since there's no known way to fix being thick enough to hit a PC that you're financially responsible for the well-being of.


it's probably the BIOS POST beep, because it comes on right after. but sometimes if I wait long enough it boots up, and does the beep also so it can't be the hit.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 11 2012 02:19 GMT
#20475
If you get a response when using violence its like %100 percent something is just loose. Even if it starts up after awhile. If it works after 10 minutes it probably means that components are so close to eachother that thermal expansion fills in the gap.
twitch.tv/medrea
Merik
Profile Joined March 2011
55 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-11 02:37:50
April 11 2012 02:30 GMT
#20476
On April 11 2012 11:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 11:04 Merik wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What do you guys think about this, is it complete? can it last for about 3 years for gaming on 1920x1080 on highest?

Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
Graphics: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Monitor: Iiyama ProLite E2407HDS-B1 24"
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W PSU
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
DVD drive: ASUS DRW-24B3ST
SSD: Corsair CSSD-F60GB3A-BK
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3)
HDD: Seagate ST500DM002
Memory: Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

total is 1150 euro (about 920 euro without monitor and OS), do i need to change anything or is it ok?


A 600w unit is unnecessary since you won't be doing SLI, just get a 500w unit. OCZ ModXStream Pro isn't that great but it's okay if that's all you have available to you...

A 2GB GTX 560 Ti is seriously a stupid waste of money. Just get a Radeon HD7850 which most likely costs less and is overall better.

Corsair memory is usually overpriced.


so 500w psu will be enough even with overclocking?
and the 2gb GTX 560 ti is about the same price as a 7850, should i still go for the 7850 then?

EDIT: so this one is OK? (its a bit cheaper indeed)
Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 2GB(Retail, DVI, HDMI, 2x Mini-DP, CrossFireX)
DONTPANIC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States340 Posts
April 11 2012 02:41 GMT
#20477
HEY!!! PAGE 1024! A nice Round Number! WOOOO!!!!! !OO!!OO!!!!
The universe is big. Really big.
Merik
Profile Joined March 2011
55 Posts
April 11 2012 02:42 GMT
#20478
On April 11 2012 11:10 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 11:04 Merik wrote:
What do you guys think about this, is it complete? can it last for about 3 years for gaming on 1920x1080 on highest?

Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
Graphics: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Monitor: Iiyama ProLite E2407HDS-B1 24"
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W PSU
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
DVD drive: ASUS DRW-24B3ST
SSD: Corsair CSSD-F60GB3A-BK
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3)
HDD: Seagate ST500DM002
Memory: Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

total is 1150 euro (about 920 euro without monitor and OS), do i need to change anything or is it ok?



Do you have a preference between Biblical prophecy and seance for determining what the system requirements of games that haven't even been announced yet will be? It might make a difference.

Probably not everything on highest, but close if you don't care about maxing AA. (You really shouldn't, but you probably do, and ironically for the same reason: not understanding how much difference it really makes to you.) Aside from that, Corsair Force uses a Sandforce controller, known reliability issues. You don't need a 2GB 560Ti for almost anything, especially at that resolution. But yes, you seem to have all the basic components.


Thanks, what 60 GB SSD do u recommend then?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 11 2012 02:44 GMT
#20479
On April 11 2012 11:30 Merik wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2012 11:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 11:04 Merik wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What do you guys think about this, is it complete? can it last for about 3 years for gaming on 1920x1080 on highest?

Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
Graphics: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
Monitor: Iiyama ProLite E2407HDS-B1 24"
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W PSU
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
DVD drive: ASUS DRW-24B3ST
SSD: Corsair CSSD-F60GB3A-BK
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3)
HDD: Seagate ST500DM002
Memory: Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit

total is 1150 euro (about 920 euro without monitor and OS), do i need to change anything or is it ok?


A 600w unit is unnecessary since you won't be doing SLI, just get a 500w unit. OCZ ModXStream Pro isn't that great but it's okay if that's all you have available to you...

A 2GB GTX 560 Ti is seriously a stupid waste of money. Just get a Radeon HD7850 which most likely costs less and is overall better.

Corsair memory is usually overpriced.


so 500w psu will be enough even with overclocking?
and the 2gb GTX 560 ti is about the same price as a 7850, should i still go for the 7850 then?

EDIT: so this one is OK? (its a bit cheaper indeed)
Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 2GB(Retail, DVI, HDMI, 2x Mini-DP, CrossFireX)


A 7850 is overall better.. why would you not go for it?

A 500w unit is more than enough for overclocking a 2500k and a 7850.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 11 2012 02:46 GMT
#20480
Any of the models skyR suggests at least once every other page in this thread, on the SSD.
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