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Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 03:50:33
June 06 2010 03:48 GMT
#121
On June 06 2010 04:43 frozenkatkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 07:32 Sad[Panda] wrote:
if i was to give my system specs, internet speed, and software would there be anyway someone could help me create a smoother stream for UStream I really dont like the mediocrity and subpar quality of Livestream t.t;

*I have a feeling its my video card that is the problem though.


I doubt it would be your video card. The stuff that hinders streaming would be processor and ram. Video card would only effect how high you can turn up your settings in the game I believe.


I c I just figured it might be an issue with taking the images from the screen then plugging them and replaying them on the stream maybe T.T I d k my internet is pretty decent

[image loading]
(about what i get and pay for and its during peak time too so yeah no complaints im paying for 20mbs dl speed. dont remember what my paid for upload speed is)

The only reason I said video card is because im running the intel GMA HD on my laptop and its really not anything great for gaming (even though i can run sc2 on varied low and medium options. ^^ and I have 4 gigs of DDR3RAM with a 2.5 i5 processer
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12242 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 04:08:56
June 06 2010 04:08 GMT
#122
On June 06 2010 12:48 Sad[Panda] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 04:43 frozenkatkiller wrote:
On June 05 2010 07:32 Sad[Panda] wrote:
if i was to give my system specs, internet speed, and software would there be anyway someone could help me create a smoother stream for UStream I really dont like the mediocrity and subpar quality of Livestream t.t;

*I have a feeling its my video card that is the problem though.


I doubt it would be your video card. The stuff that hinders streaming would be processor and ram. Video card would only effect how high you can turn up your settings in the game I believe.


I c I just figured it might be an issue with taking the images from the screen then plugging them and replaying them on the stream maybe T.T I d k my internet is pretty decent

[image loading]
(about what i get and pay for and its during peak time too so yeah no complaints im paying for 20mbs dl speed. dont remember what my paid for upload speed is)

The only reason I said video card is because im running the intel GMA HD on my laptop and its really not anything great for gaming (even though i can run sc2 on varied low and medium options. ^^ and I have 4 gigs of DDR3RAM with a 2.5 i5 processer


I've read your posts about this problem and it seemed to parallel my own experiences. I have an i7 920 with 6gb of dominator RAM and a fast 1TB HDD. The real problem turned out to be what FMLE was processing. The Ustream window is relatively small... what, 320? 360 width? It's not very big, but if you've followed the instructions in this and similar threads, your output is in 1920x1080 or 1680x1050 or something extremely large, much larger than you can see on the Ustream page. That means there's no harm in shrinking the capture size.

What I did to solve the choppiness problem was configure FMLE to cut the width and the height in half (so, from 1680x1050 to 840x574 on the Output Size fields), essentially reducing the required processing power by 75%. My framerate skyrocketed and there was no loss of quality on the stream page. Maybe this will work for you, too. Good luck!
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Tristan
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada566 Posts
June 06 2010 04:16 GMT
#123
FME is starting to cause me issues ustream seems to think its disconnecting every 3 seconds and FME seems to be running fine.
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Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
June 06 2010 07:32 GMT
#124
On June 06 2010 13:08 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 12:48 Sad[Panda] wrote:
On June 06 2010 04:43 frozenkatkiller wrote:
On June 05 2010 07:32 Sad[Panda] wrote:
if i was to give my system specs, internet speed, and software would there be anyway someone could help me create a smoother stream for UStream I really dont like the mediocrity and subpar quality of Livestream t.t;

*I have a feeling its my video card that is the problem though.


I doubt it would be your video card. The stuff that hinders streaming would be processor and ram. Video card would only effect how high you can turn up your settings in the game I believe.


I c I just figured it might be an issue with taking the images from the screen then plugging them and replaying them on the stream maybe T.T I d k my internet is pretty decent

[image loading]
(about what i get and pay for and its during peak time too so yeah no complaints im paying for 20mbs dl speed. dont remember what my paid for upload speed is)

The only reason I said video card is because im running the intel GMA HD on my laptop and its really not anything great for gaming (even though i can run sc2 on varied low and medium options. ^^ and I have 4 gigs of DDR3RAM with a 2.5 i5 processer


I've read your posts about this problem and it seemed to parallel my own experiences. I have an i7 920 with 6gb of dominator RAM and a fast 1TB HDD. The real problem turned out to be what FMLE was processing. The Ustream window is relatively small... what, 320? 360 width? It's not very big, but if you've followed the instructions in this and similar threads, your output is in 1920x1080 or 1680x1050 or something extremely large, much larger than you can see on the Ustream page. That means there's no harm in shrinking the capture size.

What I did to solve the choppiness problem was configure FMLE to cut the width and the height in half (so, from 1680x1050 to 840x574 on the Output Size fields), essentially reducing the required processing power by 75%. My framerate skyrocketed and there was no loss of quality on the stream page. Maybe this will work for you, too. Good luck!

I actually have tried cutting the output to half as you did, but I'll give it another go, should i leave the VP6 (s'cuse me if thats not what its called) all to what they were or try H.2?? and leave to standard or should I try to tweak with those too?
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TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
June 06 2010 08:04 GMT
#125
favorited!
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GreasedScotsman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 02:14:30
June 07 2010 02:13 GMT
#126
For those that have trouble getting both microphone (usually USB) and game sounds to output to FME, check out Virtual Audio Cable:

http://download.cnet.com/Virtual-Audio-Cable/3000-2168_4-10067766.html

The free portion of this software is the "Audio Repeater" that allows you to basically take any device input (like a USB mic) and re-send it to your sound card's output (speakers/headphones), which should already contain your game sounds. This way, you have a single audio source that you can use in FME.

Hope that helps.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 01:17:08
June 09 2010 01:16 GMT
#127
quick question

i got everything up and running thanks to this, ty vm

but I cant get my stream to pick up my microphone. which is a logitech webcam with microphone built in. it doesnt come up when I click the red speaker for realtek and such. also this isn't mentioned in either this tutorial or the other one that was linked

any tips on getting the logitech mic to work? i've been tinkering with settings to no avail.
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icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
June 11 2010 02:06 GMT
#128
Is there a way to directly stream pre encoded content to ustream without reencoding it?
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Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
June 13 2010 22:44 GMT
#129
So, I don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I couldn't find it.

I've got a huge issue with BW streaming - that is, the colors. I'm running windows 7 so it's expected that the colors will be off some, but not like they are the in stream (units, creep, terrain, etc are unidentifiable and rainbow colors abound). Any fixes?
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
June 14 2010 05:28 GMT
#130
I got everything up and running fine, but I'm having trouble setting up my video capture. For some reason, whatever setting I do, the screen is zoomed in around my mouse and simply follows it. I don't know how I'm supposed to capture my full screen. The preview in the FMLE says its the fullscreen, but when I stream, it's not.
Ch00
Profile Joined May 2010
28 Posts
June 16 2010 21:21 GMT
#131
Issorlol -- I know the streamers have to use a program ontop of everything else that captures the OLD graphics of Starcraft BW. I don't know what the program is called but I know that is the fix. It's called handycam or something along those lines....

check this out:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98834
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Ch00
Profile Joined May 2010
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 21:28:28
June 16 2010 21:27 GMT
#132
Ghen! (or whoever)
I have a good one for you guys:
How do i stream Starcraft 2 (or any game for that matter) with USTREAM capturing video and audio from mic and PC WITHOUT un-muting the playback of your Mic?
OR
Using Virtual Audio Cable (this Solution is garbage...)

There HAS to be a way -- I do not want to hear myself in my headphones when I'm playing my game and talking at the same time....that's just annoying! I tried asking Day[9]...but lets face it -- I'm just another shmuck fan...he's never gonna respond.

PLEASE DO NOT SAY: "just use procaster" -- I really want to figure this out without unmuting the mic.

Is there a way to do this using an external mixer? A Capture card? If so...what is the correct setup?

I would like to know how: Orb or GLHF has their setup.
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Therick
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway324 Posts
June 16 2010 21:32 GMT
#133
nice guide
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ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
June 17 2010 00:07 GMT
#134
On June 17 2010 06:27 Ch00 wrote:
There HAS to be a way -- I do not want to hear myself in my headphones when I'm playing my game and talking at the same time....that's just annoying! I tried asking Day[9]...but lets face it -- I'm just another shmuck fan...he's never gonna respond.


Ahh that's interesting. I actually prefer hearing myself in my headphones so I don't get overly loud. I know that what I hear in my headphones is exactly what you can hear on the stream so it keeps my volume in check.
Ch00
Profile Joined May 2010
28 Posts
June 17 2010 03:17 GMT
#135
see....when i hear myself...i HEAR myself.... and then i stop talking.

I would like to know what people do to overcome this -- there HAS to be a way.
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Ch00
Profile Joined May 2010
28 Posts
June 20 2010 03:46 GMT
#136
Ghen -- more reference material: If people are interested.
http://gamedrone.net/2010/05/17/streaming-game-footage-on-ustream/

There has to be another way to use USTREAM without using Virtual audio cable or Sterio mix -- There has to be a hardware alternative or something...
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Ch00
Profile Joined May 2010
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 22:39:36
June 22 2010 22:38 GMT
#137
So -- I found out how to get your MIC and in-game sound working at the same time without hearing your voice.

It's expensive -- but probably required for the serious streamers.

excuse my crappy paint skillz

[image loading]

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**EDIT** A USB input driver is installed on your computer which you use for the USTREAM input.
**/EDIT**

thoughts?
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number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
June 22 2010 23:39 GMT
#138
Ok I'm stumped.

Every time I click "Allow" for it to have access to my camera and microphone, my browser crashes. I've tried it with FMLE already open, FMLE closed. On justin.tv, on ustream. In Firefox, in IE. With it accessing my capture card, with it accessing my webcam.

I have no idea what's going on. Any suggestions?
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Ch00
Profile Joined May 2010
28 Posts
June 23 2010 00:27 GMT
#139
i tried the beta version of Flash and it worked after that -- I was having the same issue
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NostalgiaTag
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada508 Posts
June 28 2010 02:05 GMT
#140
I have a question about the image overlay. I was thinking about that and instead of having an image as an over lay is there a way of having a live web cam as the overlay?

There is probably a application out there that can do it, i don't seem to be able to find anything..
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