Update: A new video quality tutorial has been written by forum member Yourwhiteshadow and it has youtube tutorials too!
This guide is an advanced guide for streaming from Ustream.TV or Justin.TV. I expect you to know how to find some of the information in this manually, but in case you can’t I guess I’ll cover that anyways to make this a comprehensive guide. To make things a little bit simpler, I’ll also make a video guide of this shortly after I publish this. The goal of this guide is to get a very high quality stream set up, ideally 720p minimum, but this really depends on your hardware and upstream (internet). As a very rough guideline, lets take a look at the minimum hardware requirements for certain stream qualities:
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And now back to your regularly scheduled... I'm probably the least knowledgeable person about the subject, but I will get ustream functional by the end of this tutorial. If you have any tricks for higher quality, share please! Of course, livestream's procaster does all this for you, but if you have a beef against livestream's ads or recent freeze/crash issues then Ustream is the next best thing. Please if you have any suggestions/additions do tell!
PROGRAMS:
Manycam is a free screen capture device that is low quality, but doesn't have a watermark.
VH Screen Capture is the highest quality capture device with the least amount of headache for free. It has a watermark in the lower right of the video capture, but that's perfectly fine to stay away from $200 and $300 pieces of software.
Flash Media Encoder Free because adobe wants to rule the internet Download from adobe
Flash Media Live Encoder is the program that Ustream has chosen to integrate into. We have to use this to get around the fact that the Ustream producer doesn't allow anything but the microphone for audio in (AFAIK) It also allows easy manipulation of video quality.
WebcamMax $50 Webcam Max is not a free program, but it does capture your screen without a watermark. It seems to be very CPU intensive though, so try this out if you want a more professional quality and have the computing power to handle it (Core i7 and above) I have not tested this software
CamStudio free / open source Camstudio is another freebie of unknown quality. I have not tested this software
InFanView InFanView is a free image viewing/editing program for non-commercial use Download it here This is what you'll use if you need an image always-on-top of your starcraft window. Useful for hiding the replay timer or if you just want to create a brand or advertise for your sponsor.
Hardware requirement:
Any sound card that allows stereo mixing. This includes all Soundblaster Live!, Audigy, and Realtek HD sound devices. Mine is integrated into my motherboard and works fine. Soundblaster name = What U hear. Realtek name = Stereo Mix
PREPERATION, SETTING YOUR AUDIO DEVICE. This section will be two-fold. First you need to make sure your mic playback isn't muted and second you need to make sure your stereo mix / What u hear is turned on. (Don't make it default, just turn it on). I'll only be able to explain this for Realtek HD sound cards, these are almost always the card you will have integrated on your motherboard in a desktop, laptops get funky.
Step 1: make sure your mic is set to playback. Find your Realtek HD Audio Manager. This can be done by either right clicking the red speaker icon in your system tray or by going to your computer's Control Panel and selecting it. + Show Spoiler +
Step 2: Make sure your stereo mix is not hidden and turned on. a) To get to this location, click Sound Devices, Sound, or Change System Sounds in your control panel. Alternatively, choose Audio Devices from the right click menu of the Realtek red speaker icon in the system tray. b) Any way you get to it, switch to the Recording tab. If you see Stereo Mix, Great! right click and enable it. If you do not see it, right click anywhere on this screen and choose "Show Disabled Devices". Now enable it. If you still don't see Stereo Mix then your sound card doesn't support this feature. Either google a different solution or download the latest realtek drivers. + Show Spoiler +
SETTING UP VH SCREEN CAPTURE
Step 1: Once you install VHSC go into your start menu or on the desktop and choose "Configure VHScrCap" It will probably yell at you that there is no device found, Choose the option for setting up a new driver. You should see one of these 3 screens with the option to switch between them: + Show Spoiler +
If you can't switch between them try using the x86 version, this is what happened to me too. Step 2: Make sure the Capture tab is set to track screen Step 3: Set the Settings tab to 60FPS, we will be adjusting FPS and quality on FMLE instead, so we want the highest quality going from this program to the other.
GETTING FMLE WORKING!
Step 1: make sure both VHSC and FMLE are running. Step 2: Assuming you already have a ustream account, go to the Advanced tab on your show's settings. Scroll down to this area: + Show Spoiler +
and download that XML file to your local machine (don't select open). Step 3: install the two programs you downloaded, FMLE and VHScreenCapture. Start both programs Step 4: Inside of FMLE, go to the file menu and choose "Open Profile". Select your XML and open it. This should fill out the information on the right side of the program for "Stream to Flash Media server" with the ustream info and your secret code. Don't share your secret code (the one in the stream box) as this will allow others to broadcast on your Ustream account. Step 5: Set your settings like this + Show Spoiler +
or something similar. You can mess around with H.264 format, frame rates, bit rate, and output size to your hearts content to get the best quality.
FINALLY, START BROADCASTING.
Step 1: once VHSC is providing the video, Stereo Mix is providing the audio, and you're output is set to ustream's XML data hit the START button at the bottom. It will look like this giving you output values: + Show Spoiler +
Step 2: Go into ustream to the YOUR SHOWS page and select BROADCAST NOW
Step 3: When the broadcast window pops up, it should look like this: + Show Spoiler +
The video and audio sources are blank, because it is pulling the stream directly from FMLE's feed. the broadcaster is not doing any work except turning it off and on.
HIT START BROADCAST!
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There are no requirements to add your stream to the non-featured streams list on the site, here is how you should prepare.
Setting up your Image Overlay to block the replay timer or plug your sponsor
We will be using a program called InFanView for this. Once downloaded, open the program and open your favorite image file.
Follow these simple steps to get rid of any distractions, make the window resizeable, and always on top.
1) Options menu, select "Always on top" (last option) simple enough. 2) View menu, Display Options, Choose "Fit image to window" and make sure the bottom 3 are checked for quality (they are by default) 3) View menu, Show/Hide the first 4 options for Status bar, Toolbar, Menu bar, and Caption. Alternatively, hold Alt+Shift+S,T,M,C respectively.
Done! Now you have an image that will stay on top of your starcraft display (assuming you're in Windowed or Windowed (Fullscreen) modes) and not look ugly. Have fun
► I was looking at some information on another forum about this and it stated that a possible fix for the 2-3fps thing was to change from FME 3.0 to FME 2.5. I have not managed to test that yet, so it may be a complete red herring, but it's worth a shot.
I should also point out that 'internet connection' has nothing to do with that problem at all. Check the encoding logs, you will quite clearly see frequent, absurd drops to really low bitrates, such as 30kbp/s as well as low framerates which cause that juddery issue as well as the artifacting. FME 2.5 MAY alleviate that problem, maybe. it's worth a try.
► Another thing, VHScrCap can cause a lot of flickering in SC2 UNLESS you play it in Fullscreen Windowed mode. If that occurs for you, that's the solution.
► Also, Ustream does 4:3 or 16 ratios, not 16:10. Just bear that in mind when choosing which resolution to use.
If you want to broadcast in high definition, you're gonna have to broadcast at a high bitrate. You'll need 1000 - 2000 Kbps to stream at a resolution higher than 640*360
► This is overkill. You can stream 852x480 in 500kbps and it will look pretty good. If you're obsessive about quality, VoD to Youtube instead.
► H.264 appears to yield better performance, less framerate drop
► The profile I'm currently using for H.264 is 'Main' Keyframe ' 10 seconds', '3.1'. Lower keyframes appeared to result in frequent game freezes. I was also able to further increase smoothness by setting processor affinity in SC2 to CPU 0 and FME to CPUs 1, 2 and 3. I would imagine this would assist those with older quadcores. I5/I7 rigs will most likely not need that.
I don't think the 10 second keyframe is a good idea either, needs to be lower than that.
► Me too, for SC2, a 1-3 seconds keyframe should be used. A keyframe is a full-quality no-delta frame. That means if you scroll the screen (like you do every few seconds in SC2), for all the time between two keyframes, only differential data will be sent (what pixels changed). Since this is not a normal TV News scene where only the head moves, all the screen will look blurry and miscolored until the next keyframe arrives, or sufficient normal frames have been rendered Tip by mrproper, thanks!
► A lot of artifacting can be eliminated by picking an output resolution that is easily divisible by your input. I changed my output (now that I've got a better net connection) to 960x540, which is exactly half of the input resolution (1920x1080). That eliminated a significant amount of artifacting and blur.
Credits: Ch00 - For telling me about VH Screen Capture and generally getting the ball rolling TotalBiscuit - for the entire TIPS section above. :D mrproper - For helping define some of the stranger settings and help in adjusting them for maximum streaming value
Disclaimer: Please feel free to copy this anywhere you feel useful. Provide a link-back post so I can check it out
I get a "validator failed" message when I go to open my XML file. Any ideas other than manually putting everything in?
Edit: I've already put everything in, its just odd that it wont accept the profile. (For anyone else wondering just open it with firefox and read, it should be obvious what to set everything to.
On May 09 2010 09:18 Wr3k wrote: I get a "validator failed" message when I go to open my XML file. Any ideas other than manually putting everything in?
Edit: I've already put everything in, its just odd that it wont accept the profile. (For anyone else wondering just open it with firefox and read, it should be obvious what to set everything to.
The profile system of FMLE is kinda broken yeah.. but its good to know that you can just edit the XML and get the data out manually.
i5 is perfectly fine. I'm running an equivalent AMD Phenom x4 with zero problems.
Make sure you have at least 4GB of memory, a good video card to process the feed, and good bandwidth. Those are places where you will see the most improvement.
It's nice to see someone took the initiative to get all this information out to the public! Looks like you worked pretty hard on all of this and we are all appreciative of it.
When I load up ustream and broadcast from it, the player automactially asks for permissions to use my laptop webcam and the settings are not blank like yours.... I dont understand.
I have a question. I followed the guide and got it all setup but I have a desktop resolution of 1920x1200 and when I set the output settings to that the stream lags horribly. My computer doesnt lag and starcraft 2 runs perfectly fine but the stream is super laggy. I assume thats because you cant stream at a resolution like that but I cant play in window mode because the cursor always moves outside of the window because theres no real monitor edge to move the camera over. Is there any way I can get this to work properly?
On May 10 2010 11:45 a176 wrote: You need a very fast processor if you want to broadcast hidef content. Quad Core C2d, Core i5/i7 is a minimum. I'm not sure about AMD equivalents.
does this work on fullscreen/window (fullscreen) sc2, and does it show the mouse cursor when in fullscreen/window (fullscreen), and can i use these instructions to stream normal quality instead of HD?
Thanks for the tut, so I got this working but my steam is extremely choppy. My game is completely smooth, and I'm not lagging, but on the stream its just skipping like 3 seconds at a time, I'm not sure why. Any ideas? I tried raising the bitrate many different times, but the same problem.
On May 10 2010 17:29 genotyrant wrote: Good stuff, you should probably add that procaster is also a good program to use, good quality if your connection can handle 500kb/s
On May 10 2010 11:02 d.Apollo wrote: Error I get when trying to stream is this.
When I load up ustream and broadcast from it, the player automactially asks for permissions to use my laptop webcam and the settings are not blank like yours.... I dont understand.
If Ustream asks for your webcam/audio then FMLE isn't sending the stream to ustream correctly. Close the browser window with the Ustream broadcaster in it. Go back to FMLE and stop the stream. Finally, DISCONNECT the stream by a button on the right side of FMLE. Start the stream again, it will reconnect automatically. Don't connect the stream manually, just hit the big green Start button on FMLE.
Finally, start the broadcaster. Only start the broadcaster AFTER FMLE is streaming.
On May 10 2010 11:38 Cirno wrote: I have a question. I followed the guide and got it all setup but I have a desktop resolution of 1920x1200 and when I set the output settings to that the stream lags horribly. My computer doesnt lag and starcraft 2 runs perfectly fine but the stream is super laggy. I assume thats because you cant stream at a resolution like that but I cant play in window mode because the cursor always moves outside of the window because theres no real monitor edge to move the camera over. Is there any way I can get this to work properly?
If the stream is super laggy and your computer is ok, that means your internet connection can't handle the stream. Try using lower settings. I had to do an input res of 1920x1080 but an output res of 1024x570 ish. You may have to go even lower too, my internet is pretty beastly and I still couldn't get max res.
On May 10 2010 11:45 a176 wrote: You need a very fast processor if you want to broadcast hidef content. Quad Core C2d, Core i5/i7 is a minimum. I'm not sure about AMD equivalents.
I'm using an AMD Phenom X4 965 Black Edition. It is an equivalent processor to the i5. I recommend AMD processors if you're on a budget, they run a little cooler and cost a little less for the same performance. Intel though has the best high end processors of course because AMD isn't even in that market.
On May 10 2010 12:34 wishbones wrote: does this work on fullscreen/window (fullscreen) sc2, and does it show the mouse cursor when in fullscreen/window (fullscreen), and can i use these instructions to stream normal quality instead of HD?
This truely depends on the capabilities of your video card. Some video cards have no problems in windowed mode, others do.
On May 10 2010 12:40 slained wrote: any idea how to record hd vods? can ustream do this?
The best way to do this is offline. You can use this same setup and send the FMLE output to a file. Just set your video output to max settings. Another easier way if you don't want to set all this stuff up is a program called FRAPS.
On May 10 2010 17:29 genotyrant wrote: Good stuff, you should probably add that procaster is also a good program to use, good quality if your connection can handle 500kb/s
Still having problems with ustream, I had a input size set to 1280 x 1080, output size 800 x 674, bitrate of 500. When i start sc2 everything is running smooth. When i have a friend check my stream its only showing a different frame everyone 2 -3 seconds. The quality of the stream is great but its just not smooth at all. help plz :D
On May 11 2010 07:42 GoddeR wrote: Still having problems with ustream, I had a input size set to 1280 x 1080, output size 800 x 674, bitrate of 500. When i start sc2 everything is running smooth. When i have a friend check my stream its only showing a different frame everyone 2 -3 seconds. The quality of the stream is great but its just not smooth at all. help plz :D
same thing is happening to me. no matter what I set the fps to or what I set the resolution and bitrate to my friends say its really choppy.
On May 11 2010 07:42 GoddeR wrote: Still having problems with ustream, I had a input size set to 1280 x 1080, output size 800 x 674, bitrate of 500. When i start sc2 everything is running smooth. When i have a friend check my stream its only showing a different frame everyone 2 -3 seconds. The quality of the stream is great but its just not smooth at all. help plz :D
On May 11 2010 09:19 Cirno wrote: same thing is happening to me. no matter what I set the fps to or what I set the resolution and bitrate to my friends say its really choppy.
Unfortunately it sounds like you both have kinda crappy internet connections. Take the test and post your results:
choose a city closest to you and choose "copy forum link" at the end.
Alternatively, don't use VH Screen Capture, use manycam... its very simple to use, no directions needed.
Theoretically it should be enough for a 800x600 resolution stream, but try dropping your bitrate to 300 and FPS to 15.. Work your way up from those numbers until you see choppiness again.
BTW I'm just guessing here.. I really don't know how different internet connections affect streams.
If you're not going to be broadcasting in high resolution, use Livestream's Procaster. Easy, painless, fairly OKAY quality. If you have a fast, modern processor and want to try high resolution streaming, follow OP's guide.
If you want to broadcast in high definition, you're gonna have to broadcast at a high bitrate. You'll need 1000 - 2000 Kbps to stream at a resolution higher than 640*360
On May 12 2010 10:23 a176 wrote: If you're not going to be broadcasting in high resolution, use Livestream's Procaster. Easy, painless, fairly OKAY quality. If you have a fast, modern processor and want to try high resolution streaming, follow OP's guide.
If you read the first two paragraphs I've covered the reason for the guide. Livestream has been crapping out on -EVERYONE- lately. Thus the mass exodus to ustream. I personally prefer Procaster myself due to ease of use, but if the end product is choppy and laggy due to livestream's servers then no amount of adjusting the source will fix it.
If and when livestream gets their act together I'll be first to jump ship.
On May 12 2010 12:23 Ch00 wrote: OP's guide? do you have a link?
I was using an audio work around, Virtual Audio Cable, due to my not being able to find the stereo mix (mine was disabled), prior to looking at this guide. Now I don't have to, so thanks for pointing that out!
My stream works fine when i dont have the game full screen. my friend can hear and see what im doing over ustream.
when i maximize the game flash media live encoder gives this error: Problem with capture device, incorrrect samples given by the device. stopped encoding session.
On May 13 2010 06:41 Kordox wrote: Okay I installed the 32bit version, which seems to work fine. Odd since my system is 64bit.
Exactly what happened to me, I guess the 64bit version is buggy
On May 13 2010 08:37 h4rvey wrote: almost got it working...
My stream works fine when i dont have the game full screen. my friend can hear and see what im doing over ustream.
when i maximize the game flash media live encoder gives this error: Problem with capture device, incorrrect samples given by the device. stopped encoding session.
Can anyone tell me what im doing wrong?
Thanks
The only thing that I can think of is switching your starcraft game to "Windowed (fullscreen)" mode. This way your video will never have to switch resolutions and streaming will be flawless in the transition.
On May 13 2010 12:23 neSix wrote: Wow, this tutorial was great! I'll be streaming in no time! Thanks so much for the guide!
I just have one question: Is there any way to set FMLE to 1680x1050 resolution? FMLE has options for 1280x1080 and 1920x1080 but nothing in between...
i don't think there is a way, i really hope there is..my res is at 1280x1024 ;_;
other than that it's a freaking amazing tutorial, i put it to use today and it streamed really well in HD without any lag; whereas livestream's been giving me low bandwidth "errors" when i stream even at normal quality. i have 2mb up, 10ms ping and a really good computer so i know it's not my end -_-.
ty for this sexy stream~ ^^
oh yeah and the 64bit version of VH is buggy, i have 64bit win7 and it didn't work for me; changed to 32bit and it works fine ~
Yeah, I'm thinking I might have to bump my res down to 1280 x 1024 and just select the FMLE option for 1280x1080
On May 13 2010 12:23 neSix wrote: Wow, this tutorial was great! I'll be streaming in no time! Thanks so much for the guide!
I just have one question: Is there any way to set FMLE to 1680x1050 resolution? FMLE has options for 1280x1080 and 1920x1080 but nothing in between...
Your welcome... it's the least I could do to give back to all the wonderful streamers out there already.
I don't have an answer for you unfortunately, my native resolution is 1920x1080 and never had to change it.
On May 13 2010 22:29 h4rvey wrote: Is my system good enough to run this stream?
Any system that isn't totally junk can stream, just keep screwing with the output quality until it isn't choppy. Upgrading your internet/CPU/graphics card will get you more quality of course.
On May 13 2010 22:51 agarfin wrote: So ive been getting a lot of random flashing using VH screen capture x64. What are some of the programs I could "purchase" that would work better?
Try the x86 version first.. I think pretty much everyone in this thread running the x64 version has had issues.
Yup switching to the x86 version fixed it, thanks Ghen. By the way do you have any idea how to remove the new water mark the added? It wasnt in my older version.
This is the method I've been working on for the past week or so and my experiences thus far are that the 64bit version doesn't work most of the time. Use the 32bit. Funnily enough I was a couple of days from putting up a guide like this (once I got the setup to work), for exactly the same reason as the OP, 'trade secrets' are harmful to the community in general. The OP has saved me the trouble, which is awesome :D
I was looking at some information on another forum about this and it stated that a possible fix for the 2-3fps thing was to change from FME 3.0 to FME 2.5. I have not managed to test that yet, so it may be a complete red herring, but it's worth a shot.
I should also point out that 'internet connection' has nothing to do with that problem at all. Check the encoding logs, you will quite clearly see frequent, absurd drops to really low bitrates, such as 30kbp/s as well as low framerates which cause that juddery issue as well as the artifacting. FME 2.5 MAY alleviate that problem, maybe. it's worth a try.
Another thing, VHScrCap can cause a lot of flickering in SC2 UNLESS you play it in Fullscreen Windowed mode. If that occurs for you, that's the solution.
Also, Ustream does 4:3 or 16 ratios, not 16:10. Just bear that in mind when choosing which resolution to use.
On May 12 2010 12:28 T.O.P. wrote: If you want to broadcast in high definition, you're gonna have to broadcast at a high bitrate. You'll need 1000 - 2000 Kbps to stream at a resolution higher than 640*360
This is overkill. You can stream 852x480 in 500kbps and it will look pretty good. If you're obsessive about quality, VoD to Youtube instead.
On May 14 2010 22:04 TotalBiscuit wrote: This is the method I've been working on for the past week or so and my experiences thus far are that the 64bit version doesn't work most of the time. Use the 32bit. Funnily enough I was a couple of days from putting up a guide like this (once I got the setup to work), for exactly the same reason as the OP, 'trade secrets' are harmful to the community in general. The OP has saved me the trouble, which is awesome :D
Thanks for the props.. of course I'm actually not even using the software so any insight about actually using this setup is appreciated! I'll be adding your tips to the front page.
Ok, the following setup WORKS with FME 3.1 on Justin.tv and I also assume Ustream (since it's exactly the same setup, same programs). Your mileage may vary. This is designed for a low bandwidth streamer such as myself and quality can and should be improved if you have a higher upstream available.
VHScrCap Settings :-
FME 3.1 Settings :-
Starcraft 2 is set to run FULLSCREEN WINDOWED. Running in Fullscreen may cause VHScrCap to flicker a lot. Desktop resolution is 1920x1080 (to ensure that SC2 is also running at that resolution)
Please ignore those audio settings entirely, since they are specific to my machine and will not work for yours.
Note, those settings will cause some blocky artifacting when moving the screen around. I'm working on reducing that. So far, I've found that using the same settings, but encoding in VP6 instead of H.264, reduces that effect significantly, particularly when under the VP6 settings, you select Keyframe 3, Datarate Window - Tiny.
I'll post more information as I refine the settings.
Sound blaster uses a technology they've called "What U Hear". So make sure that is enabled in your Sound Blaster options as well as the same place I showed the Stereo Mix on Realtek. All Soundblaster Audigy cards have this, so you're guaranteed to find it eventually. Sorry I can't help further.
If you do find it and have screenshots, send them to ghenxx at gmail.com and I'll include it in the tutorial
yeah they disabled "what u hear" for their latest drivers, which are the only ones that work for windows 7. I might have to buy a new card or use my on board sound.
Ok, I've done some further testing and discovered the following. Ustream has disabled the ability to use FME 2.5 so that's out the window. 3.1 is the only current option.
H.264 appears to yield better performance, less framerate drop
The profile I'm currently using for H.264 is 'Main' Keyframe ' 10 seconds', '3.1'. Lower keyframes appeared to result in frequent game freezes. I was also able to further increase smoothness by setting processor affinity in SC2 to CPU 0 and FME to CPUs 1, 2 and 3. I would imagine this would assist those with older quadcores. I5/I7 rigs will most likely not need that.
The stream is now smooth and looks good at a relatively low bitrate. Just working on audio right now.
On May 10 2010 11:04 Senx wrote: This needs attention so we can get more gl.hf-quality streams out there
Takes a little more than this sadly to reach glhf quality, a lot of time and effort goes into getting it the quality it is in :S That said, this definitely is a good start and I definitely hope this will encourage people to leave livestream.
Just tried totalbiscuit's settings, worked like a charm getting me up to better than average quality. My CPU usage was MAXED with SC2 on ultra across the board, so if I want to get more quality in the stream I'll have to cut back in game a little LOL.
On May 10 2010 11:04 Senx wrote: This needs attention so we can get more gl.hf-quality streams out there
Takes a little more than this sadly to reach glhf quality, a lot of time and effort goes into getting it the quality it is in :S That said, this definitely is a good start and I definitely hope this will encourage people to leave livestream.
Yes well, if you had shared any of those 'secrets' we wouldn't have this problem. Of course, it's your right to keep a tight grip on the information you researched, it just isn't going to help the community at all.
Here's a bunch of settings for those of you who have connections that can handle 1.5mb+ upstream. This will produce 720p quality video roughly equivalent to GLHF.tv. Ensure that your h.264 profile is set to main for this and your keyframes are as low as possible. Will require a fairly hefty PC in order for it to work. Tweak to your individual requirements.
Alternative of course (which I'm going to hazard a guess is used by GLHF and others), is to get a Blackmagic Intensity or Shuttle, output in HDMI to that and then capture directly from it in the highest resolution available using FME. Less resource intensive, higher and more reliable framerates. Pricey though, so not for the faint of heart or wallet.
If my desktop and ingame resolution is 1680x1050. What should I choose as input resolution then in FMLE? It doesn´t seem to have any of the resolutions I have and I don´t really want to set my resolution to low. 1280x1024 is close to the FMLE choice but then the FMLE would be higher res since it was 1280x1080. My max is 1050 so can´t get the 1080. At the moment it adapts to my mouse pointer so it scrolls after my screen, but that would be wierd ingame I guess.
On May 18 2010 07:28 Zetsubou wrote: If my desktop and ingame resolution is 1680x1050. What should I choose as input resolution then in FMLE? It doesn´t seem to have any of the resolutions I have and I don´t really want to set my resolution to low. 1280x1024 is close to the FMLE choice but then the FMLE would be higher res since it was 1280x1080. My max is 1050 so can´t get the 1080. At the moment it adapts to my mouse pointer so it scrolls after my screen, but that would be wierd ingame I guess.
You should not use a 16:10 resolution at all if you can avoid it. Ideally you should be using a 16 resolution in order for it to properly scale.
Try 1280x720. It may look a little odd on your monitor, but it will output much better on the stream.
When I start broadcasting on ustream, the text above the video says "Live broadcast started just now", but below the video, it still says "off air". Some times the stream does turn on, but most of the time it won't. Everything is set up as the guide says, and it does seem to work, except for this one thing. Any idea what's wrong?
Edit: Looks like simply closing and opening the browser again between broadcast sessions helps.
and also, anybody know how to config the sound for mac? currently my sound system will output using speaker and those will go into mic again which create the echo effect.... T__T i know in window you use stereo mix but cant find one for mac
Updated original post with info on adding your stream to the teamliquid User Streams list
Adding your stream to the teamliquid.net User Streams list
There are no requirements to add your stream to the non-featured streams list on the site, here is how you should prepare.
Step 1: Make a thread with all the relevant information in the appropriate forum (SC2 general mostly). Your name, your stream's name, a link to the stream, what the stream will feature, why your stream is better than everyone elses, visual quality, and epeen size.
Name the thread: [Stream] Stream name (Ex: [Stream] Ghen playing starcraft)
Step 2: Send a private message to SonuvBob here Include a link to your stream's thread and a URL directly to the stream.
Step 3: Be patient! It won't take too long, but sometimes Admins take a few days off for family, etc.
On May 17 2010 16:17 TotalBiscuit wrote: Yes well, if you had shared any of those 'secrets' we wouldn't have this problem. Of course, it's your right to keep a tight grip on the information you researched, it just isn't going to help the community at all.
I like to think we've done plenty in helping people get setup. We've been promoting and help people move from livestream and onto ustream from the start, I'm merely stating a lot of time and effort went into getting our stream to be higher quality than just this. I don't want there to be any misconceptions about our quality because a lot of time and effort went into it to make it higher quality. I hardly think that's unreasonable and implying we don't help the community is just snide. If we thought it were as easy as writing a guide, we would.
That said, I actually like your "newbie friendly" casts as you put it earlier. It has a Zero Punctuation meets Starcraft 2 commentary feel to it which is very entertaining.
On May 17 2010 16:17 TotalBiscuit wrote: Yes well, if you had shared any of those 'secrets' we wouldn't have this problem. Of course, it's your right to keep a tight grip on the information you researched, it just isn't going to help the community at all.
I like to think we've done plenty in helping people get setup. We've been promoting and help people move from livestream and onto ustream from the start, I'm merely stating a lot of time and effort went into getting our stream to be higher quality than just this. I don't want there to be any misconceptions about our quality because a lot of time and effort went into it to make it higher quality. I hardly think that's unreasonable and implying we don't help the community is just snide. If we thought it were as easy as writing a guide, we would.
That said, I actually like your "newbie friendly" casts as you put it earlier. It has a Zero Punctuation meets Starcraft 2 commentary feel to it which is very entertaining.
I respect your decision. It just doesn't help in the tutorial thread to post about how your stream is good quality after a ton of tweaking and not adding anything to the tutorial. That's the rub here. No one is faulting you for keeping to your self whatever you feel is best. I'm sure there's a good reason and I don't care about it. I just want to keep the thread to the tutorial and helping people as they try to use it. Thanks
On May 19 2010 07:58 ghen wrote: I respect your decision. It just doesn't help in the tutorial thread to post about how your stream is good quality after a ton of tweaking and not adding anything to the tutorial. That's the rub here. No one is faulting you for keeping to your self whatever you feel is best. I'm sure there's a good reason and I don't care about it. I just want to keep the thread to the tutorial and helping people as they try to use it. Thanks
Perfectly valid and fair enough, I was only commenting because people were using the term "glhf quality" as a benchmark. Like I said, if I thought we could meaningfully contribute to the guide, I'd be all over it and I think your efforts should be much appreciated.
This seems like livestream's procaster to me, only better... ?
The main problem with this is the fact that I can't select Stereo Mix as my audio source. This way you can't get game sound and a microphone at the same time. If they fixed that one piece the Producer software would be so much better!
I tried producer, it didn't work well at all, ended up crashing about 10 minutes in, so I didn't bother with it. FME and VHScrCap allow for greater flexibility and higher quality anyway.
Interesting, I didn't have any of the problems you mention, i.e. my sound is streamed correctly with the proper settings on windows & the software never ever crashes.
The problem with VHScrCap is that there's a watermark. And the problem with FME is that it's way to much CPU intensive. And the other thing is that you must have your browser started with the ustream broadcast. And Flash is sooo much CPU intensive.
I've an i7 920 and CPU's load is 100% when streaming just MY DESKTOP ! Not that it lags when I load up a game, but streamed FPS usually drops below 15, which is quite annoying since I've a 20Mbps upload bandwidth.
But oh well... I still stream on Livestream just because I need the "Game" only stream, and my stream isn't watched by over 9000 anyways :D.
There's a mention of Virtual Audio Cable (http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.html) to help with the stereo mix issue, but the article does mention you might need a quad core CPU to get anything good with FMLE. I find it sad that for the same bitrate and resolution, Ustream gives me 5fps max, massive CPU usage, while Livestream can do 15fps without stressing the game too much.
Are there any decently priced capture cards that can use HD resolutions?
On May 18 2010 07:28 Zetsubou wrote: If my desktop and ingame resolution is 1680x1050. What should I choose as input resolution then in FMLE? It doesn´t seem to have any of the resolutions I have and I don´t really want to set my resolution to low. 1280x1024 is close to the FMLE choice but then the FMLE would be higher res since it was 1280x1080. My max is 1050 so can´t get the 1080. At the moment it adapts to my mouse pointer so it scrolls after my screen, but that would be wierd ingame I guess.
I set it to 1920x1080, then set Crop from Bottom to 30 and Crop from Right to 240.
in order to enable "what u hear" on win7 , you'll need to disable all other devices in the "recording section" and then it should work. This however is pointless because you probably want to hear "line-in" as well. this is soemthing to do with windows 7 audio layer (vista too) and has nothing to do with the creative drivers. This is a limitation. if anyone finds a fix, i'd be interested to hear bout it, but its a pretty wide known problem. the alternatives would be to buy an external mixer, or split the lines and use in-line volume controls.
"If you can’t even find your microphone in playback settings (like me) then you might as well disable Stereo Mix and head on to my alternative solution below, because it’s not going to work."
That's exactly the case for me. I got a mySN XMG6 notebook with Realtek® High definition Audio. Does anybody have a solution to this except for the method where you have to pay?
There's a mention of Virtual Audio Cable (http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.html) to help with the stereo mix issue, but the article does mention you might need a quad core CPU to get anything good with FMLE. I find it sad that for the same bitrate and resolution, Ustream gives me 5fps max, massive CPU usage, while Livestream can do 15fps without stressing the game too much.
Are there any decently priced capture cards that can use HD resolutions?
Define decently priced. There's a Hauppage that does 1080i and the Blackmagic Intensity and Shuttle. They'll all run you about 200 dollars.
That guide is pretty much the same thing that's been posted here, nothing new. I don't think the 10 second keyframe is a good idea either, needs to be lower than that.
On May 27 2010 08:22 TotalBiscuit wrote: I don't think the 10 second keyframe is a good idea either, needs to be lower than that.
Me too, for SC2, a 1-3 seconds keyframe should be used. A keyframe is a full-quality no-delta frame. That means if you scroll the screen (like you do every few seconds in SC2), for all the time between two keyframes, only differential data will be sent (what pixels changed). Since this is not a normal TV News scene where only the head moves, all the screen will look blurry and miscolored until the next keyframe arrives, or sufficient normal frames have been rendered.
A new tip, common sense really but I only just tried it.
A lot of artifacting can be eliminated by picking an output resolution that is easily divisible by your input. I changed my output (now that I've got a better net connection) to 960x540, which is exactly half of the input resolution (1920x1080). That eliminated a significant amount of artifacting and blur.
Setting up your Image Overlay to block the replay timer or plug your sponsor
We will be using a program called InFanView for this. Once downloaded, open the program and open your favorite image file.
Follow these simple steps to get rid of any distractions, make the window resizeable, and always on top.
1) Options menu, select "Always on top" (last option) simple enough. 2) View menu, Display Options, Choose "Fit image to window" and make sure the bottom 3 are checked for quality (they are by default) 3) View menu, Show/Hide the first 4 options for Status bar, Toolbar, Menu bar, and Caption. Alternatively, hold Alt+Shift+S,T,M,C respectively.
Done! Now you have an image that will stay on top of your starcraft display (assuming you're in Windowed or Windowed (Fullscreen) modes) and not look ugly. Have fun
I'm unable to make a new topic, however I've got a cool tidbit of information if you'd like to move the Ustream Watermark to a different corner.
First of all, I'm Mattc0m from GamesCast.TV. We're an eSports unity project that's all about promoting and assisting live broadcasters. Yay!
So! I've got a bit of assistance from Ustream. The biggest complaint we've heard about Ustream is the location of the watermark in the top right corner.
I just got off the phone earlier today with Brad, the CEO of Ustream. He really wants Ustream to be the definitive platform for live eSports coverage. He loves the StarCraft 2 scene and really wants to help out.
What does this mean?
Ustream is willing to move the location of the watermark.
All I need from you is: * Ustream channel name * Location of watermark (which corner do you want it in?)
Send me an e-mail at mattc0m@gmail.com and I will send off the information ASAP.
It would also be great to hear of any other comments, complaints, or suggestions for Ustream. They want to hear what you think and I'd love to get a feel for what's missing from your perspective. I'm not affilated in any way with Ustream, but in the past they've worked with us and have genuine interest in eSports.
Thanks for your time!
Matt "Mattc0m" Richards gamescast.tv founder & quakelive.tv founder
Awesome Matt :D Love seeing people behind the advancement of eSports!
Try posting that in a Blog post too, Hopefully the restriction on newbie posters is lifted in the blog area. and people actually read them unlike offsite blogs
Here's the settings that I run: Main Profile Level 4.0 1 sec. Keyframes Using 1920x1200 resolution and the black bars removed using crop. I've checked the aspect ratio and there's no distortion.
When you start the stream you have to go back to the VHScrCap and put the fps back to 60. This makes the video much more smoother if you start to drop frames.
Also, if you check 'Register in ROT' in the settings you can use GraphEdit to mess with the connections. You can use it to blank the stream without stopping it and possibly insert some filters that overlay text or graphics. For some reason the existing graph won't connect to any filters I put in it.
On May 30 2010 12:07 Calpico wrote: Here's the settings that I run: Main Profile Level 4.0 1 sec. Keyframes Using 1920x1200 resolution and the black bars removed using crop. I've checked the aspect ratio and there's no distortion.
When you start the stream you have to go back to the VHScrCap and put the fps back to 60. This makes the video much more smoother if you start to drop frames.
Also, if you check 'Register in ROT' in the settings you can use GraphEdit to mess with the connections. You can use it to blank the stream without stopping it and possibly insert some filters that overlay text or graphics. For some reason the existing graph won't connect to any filters I put in it.
You might want to entertain us as to your computer specs which can handle 2.5mbps h264 streaming
I'm having issues streaming on ustream, my stream is running fine, but Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder is using massive CPU resources, meaning everything (from OSU to SC2) unplayable. I'm hoping someone can help me as to what setting I can change and/or what is causing this, the settings I'm using:
Something else I noticed is that the CPU usage of AFML also goes through the roof when I move the mouse pointer around. I've also tried H.264 encoding with 10second key frames but no luck.
I'm running a 2.4 Ghz quad core. Any help is greatly appreciated.
FMLE is a huge drag on resources. Its the one problem with Ustream IMO. If it weren't for the reliance on that program the whole setup would be perfect.
Your CPU will be at 100% running both Starcraft and FMLE. If it isn't, you need more quality in your feed Make sure your power supply and CPU cooling can handle the load! This is incredibly important... I don't want to start any fires. literally.
So that being said! Here's two things to try for your CPU problem. 1) drop down your FPS to 10-15 just to test 2) change your Format to H.264. It gives better quality anyway.
You say you have a 2.4Ghz quad core processor. What is the exact model number? Also, how much RAM do you have? Finally, what is your graphics card?
Dropping the FPS to 10 still eats alot of CPU - going on 90% without starcraft (especially when moving the mouse for some reason). 15 fps I have the same problem hitting 100% of cpu.
Edit - Have also tried H.264 but doesn't make a difference
On May 28 2010 02:41 TotalBiscuit wrote: A new tip, common sense really but I only just tried it.
A lot of artifacting can be eliminated by picking an output resolution that is easily divisible by your input. I changed my output (now that I've got a better net connection) to 960x540, which is exactly half of the input resolution (1920x1080). That eliminated a significant amount of artifacting and blur.
Did not notice any difference with this in terms of image quality, artifacts and blur (text is a bit less readable), but I must say using half the resolution instead of standard 720p, the stream runs continuously at 15fps (500kbps) while the slightly higher resolution before had variable framerate between 7 and 14, because of HIGH CPU usage. Definately something to try out for other users.
Dropping the FPS to 10 still eats alot of CPU - going on 90% without starcraft (especially when moving the mouse for some reason). 15 fps I have the same problem hitting 100% of cpu.
Edit - Have also tried H.264 but doesn't make a difference
The main bottleneck in your computer is unfortunately the processor. Like you've found out, streaming takes a crapton of CPU using FMLE. This isn't a "problem". Its only a problem that you can't play starcraft at the same time. A Q6600 is 25% slower at H264 encoding than a new i7 processor. That's a pretty convincing difference. (reference)
You're just going to have to back off on FPS and output resolution until you can play starcraft. Also, if you change your desktop resolution to something lower and have a lower input resolution that might help as well.
The change to H264 might not help with CPU usage, but it outputs a higher quality... so definitely worth keeping that setting.
On May 30 2010 15:18 a176 wrote: You might want to entertain us as to your computer specs which can handle 2.5mbps h264 streaming
Using an i7 920 to do streams. I don't really push 30 FPS on the stream though, but it still looks pretty smooth. One thing about high res streaming is that my frames get backlogged about 5 secs, so its not real-time. I've also had users having problems watching the stream because their player isn't buffering enough for smooth playback.
On May 31 2010 01:45 Vandy wrote: CPU is a Q6600
4GB of RAM
Gfx card: NVIDIA Geforce 9800 GTX
Dropping the FPS to 10 still eats alot of CPU - going on 90% without starcraft (especially when moving the mouse for some reason). 15 fps I have the same problem hitting 100% of cpu.
Edit - Have also tried H.264 but doesn't make a difference
With 'Optimize Screen Deliver' enabled under VHScrCap the driver won't deliver frames unless it detects movement i.e. moving your mouse. For testing, it's best to turn it off and check your CPU usage. You can also try to mess with processor affinity to control load as well.
In terms of which codec is best, it depends if you have the CPU power, or the bandwidth. VP6 is more CPU friendly, but at the cost of bandwidth. H.264's bitrate is low under 'idle' and controlled during movement.
VP6 will give the best image quality if bandwidth isn't an issue (I haven't tested H.264 with 20000 kbps though). Use 2500 kbps bitrate with a datarate window of huge. Your stream will push close to about 4500 kbps. If using VP6 with limited bandwidth, getting the right settings is very tricky. There is a minimum bitrate for a certain resolution to be watchable at all. VP6 prefers to drop frames to meet the target bitrate. There is very little degradation in image quality at any setting.
H.264 is the easiest codec to set up, but will cost in CPU; it uses about 10% more in my tests. The bitrate is more controlled, as it won't exceed what you set it to much. Opposite to VP6, H.264 will degrade image quality to meet the target bitrate. Image quality will degrade very quickly when there is movement and the bitrate is too low.
@Calpico You do realize that most people don't have internet capable of streaming 2500 Kbps video right? Even if they have enough bandwidth, most people don't have enough cpu power to decode a HD Stream in a Flash container.
On May 31 2010 10:06 T.O.P. wrote: @Calpico You do realize that most people don't have internet capable of streaming 2500 Kbps video right? Even if they have enough bandwidth, most people don't have enough cpu power to decode a HD Stream in a Flash container.
I agree. Good thing nobody watches my streams. Its pretty overkill to stream at 1080 when you can lower the res in SC and have comparable image quality. But I think most of the information can be applied to lower bandwidth streams as well.
Edit: How to remove VHScrCap watermark: Start stream, then go into VHScrCap settings and switch tabs. The watermark should be gone. Enjoy.
In case someone has the equipment and resources to set up a separate video capture rig to handle their streaming, if you're using a video capture card that does NOT handle deinterlacing well, then you can use FME to force the input source to half of the desired height. This will get rid of the horizontal banding/tearing problem that plagues non-deinterlaced video.
For example, if you wanted to stream in 640x480 but have a vid cap card that doesn't deinterlace, you'd set FME video input size to 640x240 and output to 640x480. It's a hacky work-around but one worth mentioning.
So I've read through the thread and I wanted to make sure I understand. I've started using ustream and currently I am using the standard producer. Thar's currently no way to get my ingame sound/other sounds and my mic? or is thar some sort of workaround I've missed.
I tried following this but the movements are so choppy its frustrating ive literally spent hours on this but to no avail and then i tried using procaster which worked fine without the choppy >.> but i really did want that quality up :<
On June 05 2010 03:24 JoshSuth wrote: Should I even waste my time if I top out at 340 kbps upload? =\
Reminds me of Raelcun's latest blog, You could stream but the quality would be so low that everyone would bitch and moan, even though it would probably be better than all the regular starcraft streams
On June 04 2010 10:30 Parnage wrote: So I've read through the thread and I wanted to make sure I understand. I've started using ustream and currently I am using the standard producer. Thar's currently no way to get my ingame sound/other sounds and my mic? or is thar some sort of workaround I've missed.
Unfortunately there is no workaround for the standard Producer software. It just doesn't accept the correct inputs.
if i was to give my system specs, internet speed, and software would there be anyway someone could help me create a smoother stream for UStream I really dont like the mediocrity and subpar quality of Livestream t.t;
*I have a feeling its my video card that is the problem though.
On June 05 2010 07:32 Sad[Panda] wrote: if i was to give my system specs, internet speed, and software would there be anyway someone could help me create a smoother stream for UStream I really dont like the mediocrity and subpar quality of Livestream t.t;
*I have a feeling its my video card that is the problem though.
I doubt it would be your video card. The stuff that hinders streaming would be processor and ram. Video card would only effect how high you can turn up your settings in the game I believe.
been trying to use Irfanview as an overlay program but when i resize the window on top with fit to window on it completely freezes my computer and I have to reboot, any alternatives?
On June 05 2010 07:32 Sad[Panda] wrote: if i was to give my system specs, internet speed, and software would there be anyway someone could help me create a smoother stream for UStream I really dont like the mediocrity and subpar quality of Livestream t.t;
*I have a feeling its my video card that is the problem though.
I doubt it would be your video card. The stuff that hinders streaming would be processor and ram. Video card would only effect how high you can turn up your settings in the game I believe.
I c I just figured it might be an issue with taking the images from the screen then plugging them and replaying them on the stream maybe T.T I d k my internet is pretty decent
(about what i get and pay for and its during peak time too so yeah no complaints im paying for 20mbs dl speed. dont remember what my paid for upload speed is)
The only reason I said video card is because im running the intel GMA HD on my laptop and its really not anything great for gaming (even though i can run sc2 on varied low and medium options. ^^ and I have 4 gigs of DDR3RAM with a 2.5 i5 processer
On June 05 2010 07:32 Sad[Panda] wrote: if i was to give my system specs, internet speed, and software would there be anyway someone could help me create a smoother stream for UStream I really dont like the mediocrity and subpar quality of Livestream t.t;
*I have a feeling its my video card that is the problem though.
I doubt it would be your video card. The stuff that hinders streaming would be processor and ram. Video card would only effect how high you can turn up your settings in the game I believe.
I c I just figured it might be an issue with taking the images from the screen then plugging them and replaying them on the stream maybe T.T I d k my internet is pretty decent
(about what i get and pay for and its during peak time too so yeah no complaints im paying for 20mbs dl speed. dont remember what my paid for upload speed is)
The only reason I said video card is because im running the intel GMA HD on my laptop and its really not anything great for gaming (even though i can run sc2 on varied low and medium options. ^^ and I have 4 gigs of DDR3RAM with a 2.5 i5 processer
I've read your posts about this problem and it seemed to parallel my own experiences. I have an i7 920 with 6gb of dominator RAM and a fast 1TB HDD. The real problem turned out to be what FMLE was processing. The Ustream window is relatively small... what, 320? 360 width? It's not very big, but if you've followed the instructions in this and similar threads, your output is in 1920x1080 or 1680x1050 or something extremely large, much larger than you can see on the Ustream page. That means there's no harm in shrinking the capture size.
What I did to solve the choppiness problem was configure FMLE to cut the width and the height in half (so, from 1680x1050 to 840x574 on the Output Size fields), essentially reducing the required processing power by 75%. My framerate skyrocketed and there was no loss of quality on the stream page. Maybe this will work for you, too. Good luck!
On June 05 2010 07:32 Sad[Panda] wrote: if i was to give my system specs, internet speed, and software would there be anyway someone could help me create a smoother stream for UStream I really dont like the mediocrity and subpar quality of Livestream t.t;
*I have a feeling its my video card that is the problem though.
I doubt it would be your video card. The stuff that hinders streaming would be processor and ram. Video card would only effect how high you can turn up your settings in the game I believe.
I c I just figured it might be an issue with taking the images from the screen then plugging them and replaying them on the stream maybe T.T I d k my internet is pretty decent
(about what i get and pay for and its during peak time too so yeah no complaints im paying for 20mbs dl speed. dont remember what my paid for upload speed is)
The only reason I said video card is because im running the intel GMA HD on my laptop and its really not anything great for gaming (even though i can run sc2 on varied low and medium options. ^^ and I have 4 gigs of DDR3RAM with a 2.5 i5 processer
I've read your posts about this problem and it seemed to parallel my own experiences. I have an i7 920 with 6gb of dominator RAM and a fast 1TB HDD. The real problem turned out to be what FMLE was processing. The Ustream window is relatively small... what, 320? 360 width? It's not very big, but if you've followed the instructions in this and similar threads, your output is in 1920x1080 or 1680x1050 or something extremely large, much larger than you can see on the Ustream page. That means there's no harm in shrinking the capture size.
What I did to solve the choppiness problem was configure FMLE to cut the width and the height in half (so, from 1680x1050 to 840x574 on the Output Size fields), essentially reducing the required processing power by 75%. My framerate skyrocketed and there was no loss of quality on the stream page. Maybe this will work for you, too. Good luck!
I actually have tried cutting the output to half as you did, but I'll give it another go, should i leave the VP6 (s'cuse me if thats not what its called) all to what they were or try H.2?? and leave to standard or should I try to tweak with those too?
The free portion of this software is the "Audio Repeater" that allows you to basically take any device input (like a USB mic) and re-send it to your sound card's output (speakers/headphones), which should already contain your game sounds. This way, you have a single audio source that you can use in FME.
i got everything up and running thanks to this, ty vm
but I cant get my stream to pick up my microphone. which is a logitech webcam with microphone built in. it doesnt come up when I click the red speaker for realtek and such. also this isn't mentioned in either this tutorial or the other one that was linked
any tips on getting the logitech mic to work? i've been tinkering with settings to no avail.
So, I don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I couldn't find it.
I've got a huge issue with BW streaming - that is, the colors. I'm running windows 7 so it's expected that the colors will be off some, but not like they are the in stream (units, creep, terrain, etc are unidentifiable and rainbow colors abound). Any fixes?
I got everything up and running fine, but I'm having trouble setting up my video capture. For some reason, whatever setting I do, the screen is zoomed in around my mouse and simply follows it. I don't know how I'm supposed to capture my full screen. The preview in the FMLE says its the fullscreen, but when I stream, it's not.
Issorlol -- I know the streamers have to use a program ontop of everything else that captures the OLD graphics of Starcraft BW. I don't know what the program is called but I know that is the fix. It's called handycam or something along those lines....
Ghen! (or whoever) I have a good one for you guys: How do i stream Starcraft 2 (or any game for that matter) with USTREAM capturing video and audio from mic and PC WITHOUT un-muting the playback of your Mic? OR Using Virtual Audio Cable (this Solution is garbage...)
There HAS to be a way -- I do not want to hear myself in my headphones when I'm playing my game and talking at the same time....that's just annoying! I tried asking Day[9]...but lets face it -- I'm just another shmuck fan...he's never gonna respond.
PLEASE DO NOT SAY: "just use procaster" -- I really want to figure this out without unmuting the mic.
Is there a way to do this using an external mixer? A Capture card? If so...what is the correct setup?
I would like to know how: Orb or GLHF has their setup.
On June 17 2010 06:27 Ch00 wrote: There HAS to be a way -- I do not want to hear myself in my headphones when I'm playing my game and talking at the same time....that's just annoying! I tried asking Day[9]...but lets face it -- I'm just another shmuck fan...he's never gonna respond.
Ahh that's interesting. I actually prefer hearing myself in my headphones so I don't get overly loud. I know that what I hear in my headphones is exactly what you can hear on the stream so it keeps my volume in check.
Every time I click "Allow" for it to have access to my camera and microphone, my browser crashes. I've tried it with FMLE already open, FMLE closed. On justin.tv, on ustream. In Firefox, in IE. With it accessing my capture card, with it accessing my webcam.
I have a question about the image overlay. I was thinking about that and instead of having an image as an over lay is there a way of having a live web cam as the overlay?
There is probably a application out there that can do it, i don't seem to be able to find anything..
Why is it that I still have a noise in my stream that's coming from my mic but if I use Ventrilo/TS it works out just fine and even much louder than on the stream?
I tried different mics even some over USB and got a decent sound card (Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium)
On June 23 2010 08:39 number1gog wrote: Ok I'm stumped.
Every time I click "Allow" for it to have access to my camera and microphone, my browser crashes. I've tried it with FMLE already open, FMLE closed. On justin.tv, on ustream. In Firefox, in IE. With it accessing my capture card, with it accessing my webcam.
I have no idea what's going on. Any suggestions?
I have the same problem with IE, but not Firefox for whatever reason, so my solution is use Firefox
I would also like to suggest that WebCamMax be removed from the recommended solution list. It has frame skipping issues that occur for me in the preview window of the application itself, even when my machine isn't lagging. This means the delay is not cause by either ustream or local CPU spikes, it's because the application itself cannot handle real-time. Would suck is people pay $50 thinking this is a "high quality" solution when it is really an overpriced piece of garbage.
On May 25 2010 08:38 Scotchy wrote: Interesting, I didn't have any of the problems you mention, i.e. my sound is streamed correctly with the proper settings on windows & the software never ever crashes.
The problem with VHScrCap is that there's a watermark. And the problem with FME is that it's way to much CPU intensive. And the other thing is that you must have your browser started with the ustream broadcast. And Flash is sooo much CPU intensive.
I've an i7 920 and CPU's load is 100% when streaming just MY DESKTOP ! Not that it lags when I load up a game, but streamed FPS usually drops below 15, which is quite annoying since I've a 20Mbps upload bandwidth.
But oh well... I still stream on Livestream just because I need the "Game" only stream, and my stream isn't watched by over 9000 anyways :D.
Hi
Have searched everywhere but cannot find an answer to my problem:
I am also trying out Ustream producer and I am happy just if I can get the game sound together with the stream. For now I am only capable of getting the mic + stream and I understand that it's impossible to get both, but could anyone help me to get the game sound only + stream working via Ustream producer?
On June 14 2010 14:28 Repok wrote: I got everything up and running fine, but I'm having trouble setting up my video capture. For some reason, whatever setting I do, the screen is zoomed in around my mouse and simply follows it. I don't know how I'm supposed to capture my full screen. The preview in the FMLE says its the fullscreen, but when I stream, it's not.
I have the same problem, does anyone know the solution? I'm using 2 screens so when I go off to the other one (to handle chat and what not) I don't want the stream window to follow
On June 14 2010 14:28 Repok wrote: I got everything up and running fine, but I'm having trouble setting up my video capture. For some reason, whatever setting I do, the screen is zoomed in around my mouse and simply follows it. I don't know how I'm supposed to capture my full screen. The preview in the FMLE says its the fullscreen, but when I stream, it's not.
I have the exact same problem. After over an hour of messing around with settings Still cant get it zoomed out. It says its fullscreen in FMLE but its not when I stream.
On June 17 2010 06:27 Ch00 wrote: Ghen! (or whoever) I have a good one for you guys: How do i stream Starcraft 2 (or any game for that matter) with USTREAM capturing video and audio from mic and PC WITHOUT un-muting the playback of your Mic? OR Using Virtual Audio Cable (this Solution is garbage...)
There HAS to be a way -- I do not want to hear myself in my headphones when I'm playing my game and talking at the same time....that's just annoying! I tried asking Day[9]...but lets face it -- I'm just another shmuck fan...he's never gonna respond.
PLEASE DO NOT SAY: "just use procaster" -- I really want to figure this out without unmuting the mic.
Is there a way to do this using an external mixer? A Capture card? If so...what is the correct setup?
I would like to know how: Orb or GLHF has their setup.
I've spent all day today setting up a justin.tv stream (same idea as ustream, fmle+vhs) but uh now when I finally have it working I think I'll just go back to procaster. Install, press record and you're live, without the need for some ridiculous mic playback.
Goddamn it, in a pissy mood because after hours and finally getting it working I realize just how flawed it'll be anyway. Pah. If only livestream didn't cost buttloads for acceptable quality.
to be quite honest...using the ustream producer is an amazing option for those of us w/o performance/enthusiast rigs. i have a q6600, hd4850, 4 gb ddr2 and i just couldn't get a decent watchable stream with the FMLE and VH SC set up. however, running full windowed mode at 1920x1080 i get a very watchable stream with great quality, and decent motion. i would just use that.
I've tried streaming on livestream, ustream and justin. I've used Procaster, Ustream Producer and FME. Tried different setups, read guides and tips around the web on how to make it run well. But in the end when I start a stream, the bitrate and framerate eventually drop way too low for the video to be watchable. Changing the resolution has made no difference either.
Just now I tried streaming with Procaster on Livestream at 1280*720 500kbps 25fps. The average quality was around 250kbps 12fps in game.
Is my hardware not good enough?
Phenom 955 @ 3.6GHz HD 4870 4 gigs of memory
I'm pretty sure that should be more than enough for a decent stream.
I really want to try streaming, but after months of trying with zero success, I just don't know what else to do.
I've tried reaching that Mattc0m guy and have not heard any response. Since our stream is growing in popularity, we're really hoping to move the logo.
Has anyone else had any success, or know who else we can contact? I tried USTREAM Tech Support, they said it's impossible to move it, even after I showed them a screen shot of Day9's having it moved.
My resolution is 1600x1200 but the FMLE only allows 1920x1280. So what I've done is I have cropped those 320 pixles between 1600 and 1920 of but I can't do anything about those 80 in hight. My screen just jumps up and down when I move my corsor to the top and to the bottom. I just want FMLE to stick my screen in one place. I fixed this before but my computer decided to crash and now I don't know what I can do. Edit:I think I have fixed it.
Tried several variantions and I found a sponsor to purchase Ustream Producer Pro. Now my problem is ... that I tried to broadcast with it, tested the HIGHEST quality settings but when I look at the recording, it looks like shit. It's like 380p or something like that. I can't get the text, nothing.
Until now I used XFIre To broadcast and it was decent. I'm also able to broadcast in higher quality using FME... however I don't want to use FME and have 5 programs opened. I also like the functions Produer Pro has.
So any suggestions? I have the money... now how the hell can I get the quality? At least a decent quality just to test the stuff.
like the OP said. i would suggest outputting 1080p or a 720p feed into a intensity blackmagic pro and having the card do the compression on the fly while feeding it to ustream at an uberhigh bitrate. that'll most likely get you an HD feed. if you're having issues with the audio, get a standalone mixer (like the ones DJs) use.
I've got a problem that's quite odd. My stream works. Quality is good. Mouse movement is fluid. But the SC2 display only updates when I click, despite the mouse moving fluidly regardless. I'll post more details when I get home from work, but I was wondering if anyone had a similar problem and fixed it.
On May 28 2010 09:03 ghen wrote: Added image overlay section <3
Setting up your Image Overlay to block the replay timer or plug your sponsor
We will be using a program called InFanView for this. Once downloaded, open the program and open your favorite image file.
Follow these simple steps to get rid of any distractions, make the window resizeable, and always on top.
1) Options menu, select "Always on top" (last option) simple enough. 2) View menu, Display Options, Choose "Fit image to window" and make sure the bottom 3 are checked for quality (they are by default) 3) View menu, Show/Hide the first 4 options for Status bar, Toolbar, Menu bar, and Caption. Alternatively, hold Alt+Shift+S,T,M,C respectively.
Done! Now you have an image that will stay on top of your starcraft display (assuming you're in Windowed or Windowed (Fullscreen) modes) and not look ugly. Have fun
Hi, I did this and there's a huge grey bar around the edge. Help?
On August 19 2010 11:03 ghen wrote: Can you post a screen shot? I can't seem to replicate that problem. I only have a tiny grey bar around the picture.
Ah ha found it.
Under Image menu, go to Add border/frame and make the Border-1 size 1. Then, restart the program because its super buggy.
<333333333333333333333333333333333333 Thank you so much.
On August 19 2010 15:15 Zoxygen wrote: I'm having a hard time. It seems that I'm having worse results with a better computer setup them some of the guys here.
my connection can handle 3 Mb upload according to the speed test. Im running: Q6850 (3.0 ghz quad) and 8800 GTX (weak link)
With 1920x1080 as my input and 854x480 at 800 bitrate I'm getting 7 FPS, sometimes 5.
Keyframe = 3 h.264 Basically what OP is running :/
Any suggestions?
Drop down your resolution to something lame like 480 x whatever or 360 x whatever. Find out where your FPS is acceptable and then work your way back up.
Also, turn your starcraft details to Low or Medium to make it use less processing power.
On August 19 2010 01:06 tofucake wrote: I've got a problem that's quite odd. My stream works. Quality is good. Mouse movement is fluid. But the SC2 display only updates when I click, despite the mouse moving fluidly regardless. I'll post more details when I get home from work, but I was wondering if anyone had a similar problem and fixed it.
Ok so I fixed this myself. Disable Optimization in VHScrCap settings.
On August 20 2010 08:42 tofucake wrote: Ok so I fixed this myself. Disable Optimization in VHScrCap settings.
Same here, the 2 optimization options in VHScrCap seem to be the root of all evil when it comes to choppy streams with the in-game frame rate still being good.
Just seeking some general help with FME closing issue. Currently running 3.1 with these settings Format: H.264 / Baseline / 3.1 / 3 seconds Framerate: 30 Input size: 1920x1080 Bit Rate 950kbps with Output Size: 1280x720
VH is set to Track Screen / Frame Rate 30 / Align Video & Track mouse only options selected.
No crash log or program crash, when I click start the program just closes, tried tons of different settings nothing changes the outcome of FME just closing. Currently running on i7 980x with GTX 480 on Windows 7. Thanks for any assistance that can be provided.
My XML isn't saving as such from UStream, is there any specific reason for this? Whenever I look for the profile I saved, the Media Encoder can't find it cuz the downloaded file is apparently not saved as an XML file -.-
anyone having a problem opening the XML inside of Adobe FMLE? Seems to be a new issue with the updated look to Ustream today. I get an authentication error.
On August 26 2010 07:39 m4hleon wrote: anyone having a problem opening the XML inside of Adobe FMLE? Seems to be a new issue with the updated look to Ustream today. I get an authentication error.
On August 26 2010 07:39 m4hleon wrote: anyone having a problem opening the XML inside of Adobe FMLE? Seems to be a new issue with the updated look to Ustream today. I get an authentication error.
Me too. Any help guys?
Importing has never worked for me. You can open any XML file in a word processor (e.g. notepad) and just find what you need. Things are labeled pretty obviously: <RTMP>bob</RTMP> would mean your RTMP is bob.
Full Screen Windowed mode is required to stream games. I use FMLE 3.1 with no problems. I'm at work so I don't have exact details, but I use something like h264 capture 60fps, stream 30fps, 2 second keyframes, main profile, 5.1, 1920x1080/960x540
hey so i cant get my ingame sound done - i can only record the sound from my mic and once i put stereomix as audio in the adobe flash live media encoder i have no sound at all. I think my problem is that in my HD Realtek audio settings i dont have a playback volume - just recording volume. How can i fix that problem with ustream or is it not possible without paying for stuff?
On August 31 2010 05:48 schnibbel wrote: i can't get stereo mix with my realtek ac888 audio device. did anyone here solve this problem yet?
There is no solution if you want two audio sources (game and mic). You have to have a stereo mixer or you have to pay for software that does it virtually. (Virtual Audio Cable)
On August 31 2010 05:48 schnibbel wrote: i can't get stereo mix with my realtek ac888 audio device. did anyone here solve this problem yet?
There is no solution if you want two audio sources (game and mic). You have to have a stereo mixer or you have to pay for software that does it virtually. (Virtual Audio Cable)
but normally it should work if you have the stereo mix option right?
it's kinda stupid though. i might just start streaming without gamesound or something like that. meh.
So, I've been able to get a stream up and running fine and dandy, but once It's going my bitrate just plummets. I start out at the setting Ive chosen (500Kbps) but quickly drop to 30 or less Kbps. Anyone had similar experiences? I have comcast with 12 Mbps down and 2.5 Mbps up.
If you want to capture stereo mix of your mic + game, please use a headset/earphones. Then, goto your microphone properties and enable this option: http://i32.tinypic.com/newdi8.jpg
Your mic will now come through your speakers (headset). The reason you want to use a headset is because your mic will feedback on regular speakers, making for a terrible echo.
addendum: i see alot of newer posts since last i dropped in here. for the majority of you, please try livestream procaster before this ustream/justin.tv method. procaster is ridiculously easy to set up and use, and cpu-to-quality performance is quite good for most users. just play with the bitrate and resolution settings to find what's best for you.
Why can't i have skype on at the same time I'm streaming with 'what you hear'? I didn't expect myself to be heard, but i thought i could at least have skype online so i can hear someone else.
I had planned on having a guest commentator tonight for a local tournament who would solo-cast the whole thing. Any ideas on how i can get skype to not try to send my voice at all so it will let me hear someone else?
The error i'm getting is 'problem with recording device' or something along those lines.
Great guide! But i've have encountered some minor problems that I believe someone else has also run into (posted on like page 7 or 8). I seem to be getting background noise when stream but I don't think it's my mic because I don't get the noise over skype. Is there anyway at all to fix this?
On August 31 2010 14:38 a176 wrote: If you want to capture stereo mix of your mic + game, please use a headset/earphones. Then, goto your microphone properties and enable this option: http://i32.tinypic.com/newdi8.jpg
Your mic will now come through your speakers (headset). The reason you want to use a headset is because your mic will feedback on regular speakers, making for a terrible echo.
addendum: i see alot of newer posts since last i dropped in here. for the majority of you, please try livestream procaster before this ustream/justin.tv method. procaster is ridiculously easy to set up and use, and cpu-to-quality performance is quite good for most users. just play with the bitrate and resolution settings to find what's best for you.
but this doesn't cope for not being able to enable the stereo mix option right?
i had the opportunity to cast for a local tournament, and it was super fun. i used TotalBiscuit's settings, they worked wonders. one thing to remember is that the number of keyframes you set is important, 5-10 sec keyframes is too much. keyframes are the same thing as they are in flash/AE/cartoons. basically a keyframe is a high quality frame/image, the frames in between are 'tweened' to create motion and are a little less quality. if you can do 1 second keyframes, and maintain a high FPS output after encoding, then use it, your viewers will probably notice. i'd say 3 second keyframes are the most i would consider to deliver a 'lag free' stream.
anyways, i WAS having trouble with ustream/FMLE/vhscr cap, but i seem to have fixed them by using total biscuit's settings. there is no point in having vhsc capture at 30 or even 60 fps if you are going to stream at 20 fps...capture with vhsc at 20 FPS.
Q6600 @ 3.0 gHz/4 gb ddr2 1066/wd caviar black 6400AALS/1920x1080 native res output to: 1280x720 @ 20 fps 1000 kbps upload
Co-commentary tutorial. Let me start by saying this solves 2 issues. First, when I use my mic from my computer that is streaming with stereo mix, my viewers cannot hear me at all. However, they can hear my co-commentators. This strategy solves this issue. Second, this strategy allows you to get MANY co-commentators on a single stream.
1. Set up stereo mix appropriately, adjust volume settings for the game 2. Download Skype, all commentators much join a conference call 3. Ensure that the conference call is audible through the streaming computer. DO NOT plug your MIC into the streaming computer, you must join the conference call from another computer or MIC. Your cocasters/commentators must do so as well. 4. set up casters in game, and GO!
also, working on a tutorial on how to get webcam view in the bottom/top right/left corner like PsyoniC has.
I´m having some trouble with my streaming. I´m using a laptop with the specs: Quad Core i7 1.6ghz (turbo boost to 2.8ghz) 6gb Ram, and ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650.
It runs Starcraft 2 on High with no problem, even with FME on but i kick it to medium just in case.
Well, i can´t seem to get good quality rates or image. I´m using VH camera and FME, and even copy some user settings but for some reason it has some freezes. No flickering cause it´s in windowed mode, but it´l lag a bit like "unit move stream freeze, units move a bit more, stream freeze" etc.
Usually: VH 60 fps - FME H264 max input res, (30-60 fps) - 1280x1024 on output, 1000-2000 bitrate.
On September 07 2010 07:03 Nikaro wrote: Hey guys.
I´m having some trouble with my streaming. I´m using a laptop with the specs: Quad Core i7 1.6ghz (turbo boost to 2.8ghz) 6gb Ram, and ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650.
It runs Starcraft 2 on High with no problem, even with FME on but i kick it to medium just in case.
Well, i can´t seem to get good quality rates or image. I´m using VH camera and FME, and even copy some user settings but for some reason it has some freezes. No flickering cause it´s in windowed mode, but it´l lag a bit like "unit move stream freeze, units move a bit more, stream freeze" etc.
Usually: VH 60 fps - FME H264 max input res, (30-60 fps) - 1280x1024 on output, 1000-2000 bitrate.
I am linking the xml of my stream too
Anyone know what´s wrong?
FMLE 2.5 or 3.1? also, can i see your .xml file? blank out your stream info before you post it here.
vh should be set to 20 or 24 and FMLE/FME set to 20 or 24 (match VH).
Eventho your giving lots of good tricks and tips im having some huge problems with getting my stream going. All the time i thought it was my gfx card lagging behind but now that i have bought a new one and its still the same i figured the choke has to be somwhere else. Then i came down to the cpu being to bad. But again after redusing the screensize and at the same time redusing the load on the cpu and getting no improvment i cant understand that the cpu is to blame.
I also have a webcam that i can stream 720p quality with. The webcam is working great, i know its different with the screen capturing but still the different is so sick. When im trying to cast sc2 i have tryed alot of different resolutions. Started with 1980x1080 with an output witch is half of that. Since this didnt work i tried to lower the resolution to 1280x720 to match that of my webcam. The load on my cpu did go down by 35% but still the same things happening to bouth bitrate and fps while streaming sc2 and even when capturing my desktop only.
So the big problem here is that i cant get a stable bitrate or fps when streaming off my screen. Like i said befor its going great with my webcam but i dont know enough about whats going on while streaming to cut any conclutions of that. So any good ideas how i can get a lagfree stream. The bitrate tends to stop, or be below 30, same with fps goes down towards zero. Im guessing these two kind of go togeather. Eventho im running Sc2 perfectly "on low" and im able to run everything on ultra and have desent fps.
Ps have tried bouth 3.1 and 2.5 version of FMLE makes no difference.
Hardware Gfx Card: Evga Geforce Gtx 470 Cpu Core 2 quad Q6600 2400 gHz Ram: 8gb Anything else that is usefull to know?.
Fmle settings -- Fps: 20 "bouth in vhScrCap and FMLE, tried a big variety here also" -- Inputsize "whatever resolution of the screen im capturing" -- Output size :" either equal to input or half of it" -- Bitrate " Have tried from 300-800 same effect on all"
Format H.264 -- Profile :baseline -- Level 5.1 -- Keyframerate: 3 "tried 1 throu 10 no effect"
I am clueless of what is doing this greatly appreciate any tips of what im doing wrong or whats causing this.
Hoppeh
Sorry for bad spelling, long post and other things i forgot!
I have almost all set (I'm using VH Screen Capture Driver as it's free) - my problem is that when I start to stream my image is zoomed - ustream is broadcasting only part of my screen, like the resolution is set too low - how do I fix that?
any chance of avoiding the flickering in fullscreen mode? I don't like playing w windowed because when I want to move the screen, the mouse is out of the window, so it's not moved.
On September 10 2010 21:09 ilbh wrote: any chance of avoiding the flickering in fullscreen mode? I don't like playing w windowed because when I want to move the screen, the mouse is out of the window, so it's not moved.
You have to get use to wheel scrolling, or use Windowed (Fullscreen) mode, which I haven't had any problems with.
When I do all of these settings step for step, and I start broadcasting, it works except for Starcraft II. I can see the SC2 cursor, but everything else is just black and pink (2 boxes).
I can't get command-line versions to work with ustream (tried both 3.1 and 2.5). They were working perfectly fine with justin.tv. But the ustream broadcast window never offers to switch to the FME stream and without that, I don't know how to get ustream to broadcast the stream I'm uploading to them.
I also can't get 2.5 to work normally. The broadcast window does offer to switch but it's audio-only.
Anyone know if there's a way to get command-line versions to work with ustream? Anyone know what could be causing ustream to be unable to receive my 2.5 video?
I emailed ustream tech support but they do not respond.
I haven't fiddled with the command line version, but have you removed "offline" from the Stream value in the right box (on the GUI)? Saving that and then loading the profile in the CLI might work.
On September 12 2010 22:29 fams wrote: When I do all of these settings step for step, and I start broadcasting, it works except for Starcraft II. I can see the SC2 cursor, but everything else is just black and pink (2 boxes).
What do I do?
HELP?? I am stressing out, cant figure this out -_-
On September 12 2010 22:29 fams wrote: When I do all of these settings step for step, and I start broadcasting, it works except for Starcraft II. I can see the SC2 cursor, but everything else is just black and pink (2 boxes).
What do I do?
HELP?? I am stressing out, cant figure this out -_-
That's a tough one. Try upgrading your video card drivers.
On September 12 2010 22:29 fams wrote: When I do all of these settings step for step, and I start broadcasting, it works except for Starcraft II. I can see the SC2 cursor, but everything else is just black and pink (2 boxes).
What do I do?
HELP?? I am stressing out, cant figure this out -_-
you have to play SC2 in full screen windowed mode.
On September 12 2010 22:29 fams wrote: When I do all of these settings step for step, and I start broadcasting, it works except for Starcraft II. I can see the SC2 cursor, but everything else is just black and pink (2 boxes).
What do I do?
HELP?? I am stressing out, cant figure this out -_-
you have to play SC2 in full screen windowed mode.
Thank you, you are a life saver!
My problem now is that it lags incredibly hard when I am in game (stream-wise I mean)....
On September 12 2010 22:29 fams wrote: When I do all of these settings step for step, and I start broadcasting, it works except for Starcraft II. I can see the SC2 cursor, but everything else is just black and pink (2 boxes).
What do I do?
HELP?? I am stressing out, cant figure this out -_-
you have to play SC2 in full screen windowed mode.
Thank you, you are a life saver!
My problem now is that it lags incredibly hard when I am in game (stream-wise I mean)....
Any ideas how to improve the quality?
there are literally like 10 different settings in OP that should help stream quality. what are your system specs and your stream settings?
On September 12 2010 22:29 fams wrote: When I do all of these settings step for step, and I start broadcasting, it works except for Starcraft II. I can see the SC2 cursor, but everything else is just black and pink (2 boxes).
What do I do?
HELP?? I am stressing out, cant figure this out -_-
you have to play SC2 in full screen windowed mode.
Thank you, you are a life saver!
My problem now is that it lags incredibly hard when I am in game (stream-wise I mean)....
Any ideas how to improve the quality?
there are literally like 10 different settings in OP that should help stream quality. what are your system specs and your stream settings?
I PMed you as well, but:
Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 @ 2.26 GHz 4 gigs of ram nvidia GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 64-bit OS Windows 7
On September 13 2010 00:20 tofucake wrote: I haven't fiddled with the command line version, but have you removed "offline" from the Stream value in the right box (on the GUI)? Saving that and then loading the profile in the CLI might work.
Ah nice that got everything working. Thank you!
Actually I got regular 2.5 to work and I got command line 3.1 to work, but not command line 2.5. But hopefully either 2.5 or command line 3.1 will be enough to take a load off my processor and enable me to stream in good quality without lag so I don't have to worry about command line 2.5!
On September 13 2010 00:20 tofucake wrote: I haven't fiddled with the command line version, but have you removed "offline" from the Stream value in the right box (on the GUI)? Saving that and then loading the profile in the CLI might work.
Ah nice that got everything working. Thank you!
Actually I got regular 2.5 to work and I got command line 3.1 to work, but not command line 2.5. But hopefully either 2.5 or command line 3.1 will be enough to take a load off my processor and enable me to stream in good quality without lag so I don't have to worry about command line 2.5!
i've heard jtv doesn't like 2.5 cmd. i dno. that might be why its not working.
On September 13 2010 00:20 tofucake wrote: I haven't fiddled with the command line version, but have you removed "offline" from the Stream value in the right box (on the GUI)? Saving that and then loading the profile in the CLI might work.
Ah nice that got everything working. Thank you!
Actually I got regular 2.5 to work and I got command line 3.1 to work, but not command line 2.5. But hopefully either 2.5 or command line 3.1 will be enough to take a load off my processor and enable me to stream in good quality without lag so I don't have to worry about command line 2.5!
i've heard jtv doesn't like 2.5 cmd. i dno. that might be why its not working.
On September 13 2010 00:20 tofucake wrote: I haven't fiddled with the command line version, but have you removed "offline" from the Stream value in the right box (on the GUI)? Saving that and then loading the profile in the CLI might work.
Ah nice that got everything working. Thank you!
Actually I got regular 2.5 to work and I got command line 3.1 to work, but not command line 2.5. But hopefully either 2.5 or command line 3.1 will be enough to take a load off my processor and enable me to stream in good quality without lag so I don't have to worry about command line 2.5!
i've heard jtv doesn't like 2.5 cmd. i dno. that might be why its not working.
it was working for jtv but not ustream
doh. i completely blanked out. sometimes you have to restart FMLE and then try ustream again. i had that issue a few times. you HAVE to open FMLE, connect, start, THEN open ustream. 3.1 and 2.5 cmd both work for me.
Thanks for the guide. It took a bit of tinkering but I think I've got everything reasonably set up now. I finally registered on TL to contribute what I've learned while setting up my stream!
First of all, my specs: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (Overclocked to 3.4Ghz) 4GB DDR2 1000 RAM (Underclocked to DDR2 800, with 5-5-5-15 timings) XFX GTX 260 Core 216
My monitor runs at 1920x1200 resolution, but to save myself the hassle I would set it to 1920x1080 when streaming. This gave me black bars at the top and bottom of my screen which I don't really mind too much.
To start off, I had set VH screen capture to 60 fps and Flash Media Live Encoder 3.1 was set 20 fps via VP6, with resolution at 960x540 and bit rate at 500kbps. Using these settings I experienced terrible frame drops, with < 10 fps average as well as weird occasional frame rate increases when I click around wildly. I solved these problems by doing the following:
1. Uncheck "Optimize screen capture" in VH screen capture driver. This made the stream smoother and updated the image even if I wasn't moving around the mouse. 2. Lower the resolution to 640x360 (1920/3 = 640). I tested this against 960x540 and the difference was not noticeable to me. 3. Set frame rate in VH Screen Capture equal to the output frame rate in FMLE. 15 or 20 seem to work okay). 4. Set format to H.264 with Profile: Main, Level: 3.1, Keyframe: 1 second. 2 second keyframes work but 3 seems to make the stream too laggy to watch. I did a little bit of research and although I don't understand the codec completely, it seems that at my resolution there there is no reason for the level to be above 3.1. I tried playing with VP6 but it always seemed laggier than H.264 no matter what I settings I used. Increasing the bit rate seemed to do very little to help. My theory is that modern processors are optimized to do H.264 encoding, whereas VP6 is a proprietary format, and thus is not optimized. 5. Up the bit rate to 650kbps. I tried 1000kbps and it seems that my connection (mid-tier Comcast cable) maxed out at around 800kbps. My roommate was playing TF2 at the same time as the stream and experienced no ping problems. Your results will vary for this one, this may be due to the awesomeness of my Tomato router.
Few things to note: - I have a quad core, so I set my SC2 to use CPU0/1 and FMLE to 2/3. It's important that you set FLME to CPU3/4 because quad cores pre-i7 have a tendency to task CPU0 with the majority of processing. If you do not set your CPU affinities then your SC2 will most likely lag too much to play. I've noticed that although setting FMLE to CPU2/3 makes a big difference, setting SC2 to CPU0/1 does not seem to make any noticeable impact on frame rate.
- UNIT PORTRAITS! They're such a huge FPS hog. I get about a 10fps increase in-game if I set them from 3D to 2D.
- In one of the guides linked in the first post, there is some mention of using a .bat file to start FMLE in order to ease the process of setting CPU affinity and priority. This will not work for Windows XP machines as the "/affinity" parameter is not part of XP's "start" command (although "/high" is in there). The .bat file should work for Windows Vista/7 just fine though.
- If you have access to a second computer, it is a good idea to control the broadcast via the Ustream page on that instead. This way your main computer's system resources are not hogged by your browser, which often uses a good amount of RAM depending on how many tabs are open. Liquid`Tyler mentioned something about starting the broadcast via the command line - this is something that I have not looked into and may be worthwhile if you do not have a second computer to control and view the stream.
- When using Ventrilo in conjunction with streaming, even with Stereo Mix enabled I do not get any sound from Ventrilo unless the Output Device (in Setup) has "Use Direct Sound" UNCHECKED. I'm not sure why this is. You can easily test whether or not your Ventrilo sound is coming through by going into Setup and using the "Test" button. That way, whatever you say will be echoed back to you via speakers, and therefore should be audible through the stream provided you correctly enabled Stereo Mix/What U Hear. You should hear yourself twice on your stream (once from you speaking into the mic, once from Ventrilo repeating it back to you due to Test mode)
- Originally in Starcraft 2 my audio output was set to "Speakers" instead of "DirectSound Device". This made the in-game sounds EXTREMELY loud, even if your in-game Master Volume was set to low.
I hope this long writeup will help someone. Good luck streaming everyone!
Ok, I have a Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio card and It doesn't support stereo mixer in the recording devices, and only has it's own mixer that is not recognized by FMLE. Does anyone know a work arround?
@Ktzero3: Lowering keyframe rate should lower processing requirements, and make your stream a bit smoother (but lower quality if you jump around a lot). Also, you can boost your stream quality by sticking SC1 on 1 core and FMLE on 3. Video processing/encoding is one of the very few things that is a greedy multitasker. Also, why did you underclock your RAM? Also, you can use a program called Virtual Audio Cable to pump a bunch of different sources into a single output line and have FMLE use that as audio.
On September 14 2010 03:42 dotFX wrote: Ok, I have a Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio card and It doesn't support stereo mixer in the recording devices, and only has it's own mixer that is not recognized by FMLE. Does anyone know a work arround?
@tofucake - I underclocked the RAM to achieve 1:1 ratio between RAM speed and Front Side Bus speed. Having a weird ratio between RAM and FSB can cause stability problems when overclocking and possible performance problems in general.
Math involved: Q9550 has a multiplier of 8.5 and a 333 FSB by default. Q9550 clock speed = FSB * Multiplier. To overclock to 3.4GHz the FSB necessary is 400 (400*8.5 = 3400), and since DDR stands for double data rate, the clock speed for the RAM is actually 400 even though it says DDR2 800.
well i have finally gotten everything figured out, including sound. however, i have 2 questions.
the first, my batch file is closing right away giving me an error where it it's reading a random invalid character as the first character of the line, so i'm unsure how to fix that.
the second is, how can i stream my stereo mix with my usb soundcard? i have tried changing the playback, but to of no avail. i HAVE to use my onboard card it seems to stream my game sounds, any fix for this?
Firts of all, thank you for the guide. This was very helpful.
I found very helpful also what this guy wrote about speeding up ustream and the video capture driver. I would consider putting it in the first post of the thread.
On September 13 2010 11:34 Ktzero3 wrote: Thanks for the guide. It took a bit of tinkerin[...]
But i still have a problem.
The stream finally seems to be going fluenlty at a 720x576 resolution and 350kb framerate using H.264 at 3.1 with 25 fps and keyframe set to 10.
The problem is that about every 20 seconds, the stream ( i mean viewing that on ustream ) freezes for about 1 - 2 secons and then keeps going from where it stopped before. This made me think that the problem is with my connection, because if it was from the computer than the stream would' nt resume exactly where it stopped before.
I actually ask a friend to check the stream so my connection is not affected by that.
Can you guys help me with this?
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my horrible engrish, lol.
Hey guys, I'm looking for a little help. It's not technically about streams, but I figured this would be the best place to ask anyways.
Can someone tell me why there seem to be so many.."squares" in the video? I guess it's pixelated in a sense? I mean, why is there a 720p viewing option when it looks exactly the same as the 480p one? I'm basically looking for what settings I can toggle to fix this. My computer isn't that great, but I think something should be able to be worked out.
I am casting with camtasia, with SC2 being in a 1280x720 window. Fps is set at 20, the keyframe is 80. My monitor is 1680x1050 by default. Since it's 16:10 and not 16: 9 , I decided to record in window mode.
Any opinions? Maybe you guys need more info, I just don't know what to provide.
On September 14 2010 05:38 tofucake wrote: @Ktzero3: Lowering keyframe rate should lower processing requirements, and make your stream a bit smoother (but lower quality if you jump around a lot). Also, you can boost your stream quality by sticking SC1 on 1 core and FMLE on 3. Video processing/encoding is one of the very few things that is a greedy multitasker. Also, why did you underclock your RAM? Also, you can use a program called Virtual Audio Cable to pump a bunch of different sources into a single output line and have FMLE use that as audio.
On September 14 2010 03:42 dotFX wrote: Ok, I have a Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio card and It doesn't support stereo mixer in the recording devices, and only has it's own mixer that is not recognized by FMLE. Does anyone know a work arround?
What OS are you on?
lowering keyframe rate WILL make the stream smoother, but it increases processor load as its an encoded frame with as little loss in quality as possible. higher quality = more proc power needed. increasing keyframe rate, then increases proc power.
On September 14 2010 05:38 tofucake wrote: @Ktzero3: Lowering keyframe rate should lower processing requirements, and make your stream a bit smoother (but lower quality if you jump around a lot). Also, you can boost your stream quality by sticking SC1 on 1 core and FMLE on 3. Video processing/encoding is one of the very few things that is a greedy multitasker. Also, why did you underclock your RAM? Also, you can use a program called Virtual Audio Cable to pump a bunch of different sources into a single output line and have FMLE use that as audio.
On September 14 2010 03:42 dotFX wrote: Ok, I have a Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio card and It doesn't support stereo mixer in the recording devices, and only has it's own mixer that is not recognized by FMLE. Does anyone know a work arround?
What OS are you on?
lowering keyframe rate WILL make the stream smoother, but it increases processor load as its an encoded frame with as little loss in quality as possible. higher quality = more proc power needed. increasing keyframe rate, then increases proc power.
I don't even........what? Lowering the rate means increasing the time between keyframes. How does processor load increase when you lower keyframe rate and raise when you increase keyframe rate? Please make sense.
To clarify this. I am getting an awesome frame rate and zero drop frames but the stream is kind of artifacty and pixelated. I currently have keyframes set to 10 on VH and in FLME. To fix the pixelation should I drop the keyframes from 10 to 1 or 2?
My computer is brand new and will take any load, I also have a 15/15 MBps connection.
On October 02 2010 04:03 Ic3d wrote: To clarify this. I am getting an awesome frame rate and zero drop frames but the stream is kind of artifacty and pixelated. I currently have keyframes set to 10 on VH and in FLME. To fix the pixelation should I drop the keyframes from 10 to 1 or 2?
My computer is brand new and will take any load, I also have a 15/15 MBps connection.
That's not dropping, it's increasing, and will cause more problems than it's worth.
I have 2 problems. I have everything installed but for some reason FMLE wont let me pick the resolution for my main monitor which is 1920x1200 it only allowed me to pick 1920x1080 which is my second (not set to main) monitor that i wish to have like chat and stuff open while streaming.
(I was able to figure out this problem, i have no choice but to change my monitor resolution before streaming because of the aspect ratio for the stream. I typed this and left my original problem just in case someone else has it.)
And the last problem is, i have tried setting stream up on uStream and as well as Justin.tv but my FPS sucks. Below is my settings and computer spec.
H.264 (Main / 5.1 / 5sec keyframe) Input 1920x1080 (wont allow me to get 1920x1200) Output 1920x1080 Bit Rate 800
AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core Processor 2.50 GHz 6gig Ram Nvidia 9800gt video card Starcraft2 graphic settings reduced to medium
Anyone know what the problem might be that i should look into. I have comcast burst internet which gives me 25+mbps down and 5+mbps up
On October 11 2010 12:25 iSop wrote: I have 2 problems. I have everything installed but for some reason FMLE wont let me pick the resolution for my main monitor which is 1920x1200 it only allowed me to pick 1920x1080 which is my second (not set to main) monitor that i wish to have like chat and stuff open while streaming.
I have the same problem with the resolution size. Any solutions will be greatly appreciated.
Ahh, nevermind, I managed to fix the problem by opening the .xml file and finding the url it provides me, copy pasting that as the server url for my stream. Great tutorial, by the way!
I'd like to ask here because I'm thinking of purchasing the newest version of Wirecast? Is it worth buying it? or is it just like other crappy softwares?
On October 13 2010 17:24 countolaf wrote: Hi guys,
I'd like to ask here because I'm thinking of purchasing the newest version of Wirecast? Is it worth buying it? or is it just like other crappy softwares?
If you're using it to just stream games like everyone else, then yeah it is probably a waste of $450.00 if you have something else planned for it then maybe
On October 13 2010 17:24 countolaf wrote: Hi guys,
I'd like to ask here because I'm thinking of purchasing the newest version of Wirecast? Is it worth buying it? or is it just like other crappy softwares?
If you're using it to just stream games like everyone else, then yeah it is probably a waste of $450.00 if you have something else planned for it then maybe
Thanks Kareem. I have a copy of Wirecast PRO that is free for Freedocast.com streamers. I really don't like the interface of the wirecast and on how it works overall
Theres this software called xSplit broadcaster located at xsplit.com given to me by a friend who loves streaming games. I tried it and so far I find it slick. have you used them or anyone here have had some experience with it?
what about streaming with live stream? i have 1,2 mbps down and 500-700 kbps up spd on a12mbliane i stream at1000x500 at 500 kbps the qual is poor my native reso is 1366x768 pls help
1000x500 isnt even the same aspect ratio, why would you think that would look good.... anyways, 500kbps is only gonna look so good, and if thats all your upload speed is you're kinda stuck with it. if you get a better connection switch to ustream
I'm having some resolution issues myself. I'm on a 1680 x 1050 monitor and am inputting 1920x1080 and have an output of 808x504.. ive found elsewise i get purple around my screen.. am i going wrong somewhere? my fps is just a mess and im assuming due to my modifications of the screen size..
Hey, basically new to streaming, finally got me a computer that can do it. I am using SCFH (happens on VHCap also). My quality is pretty good (even though I got no clue how to get better quality, just fooling around. My problem is, when stuff moves, it gets really choppy, but when it sits still it gets clear! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10208834
That is the problem I am having. I read the OP, not much more though. If anyone could let me know why this is happening and how to fix it, that would be awesome! Oh also, what do I change for better quality? Don't know what my computer can handle, so I wanna see what I can go to. http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/559/settingsn.png (too wide for image) Speedtest + Show Spoiler +
I initially thought the quality when you're moving it around is pretty good until I viewed it in full screen.
Choppy broadcast can be attributed to many factors like frame rate and stuff. Whats the spec of your computer anyway?
On October 15 2010 12:30 Huko wrote: Hey, basically new to streaming, finally got me a computer that can do it. I am using SCFH (happens on VHCap also). My quality is pretty good (even though I got no clue how to get better quality, just fooling around. My problem is, when stuff moves, it gets really choppy, but when it sits still it gets clear! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10208834
That is the problem I am having. I read the OP, not much more though. If anyone could let me know why this is happening and how to fix it, that would be awesome! Oh also, what do I change for better quality? Don't know what my computer can handle, so I wanna see what I can go to. http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/559/settingsn.png (too wide for image) Speedtest + Show Spoiler +
On October 15 2010 15:42 countolaf wrote: I initially thought the quality when you're moving it around is pretty good until I viewed it in full screen.
Choppy broadcast can be attributed to many factors like frame rate and stuff. Whats the spec of your computer anyway?
On October 15 2010 12:30 Huko wrote: Hey, basically new to streaming, finally got me a computer that can do it. I am using SCFH (happens on VHCap also). My quality is pretty good (even though I got no clue how to get better quality, just fooling around. My problem is, when stuff moves, it gets really choppy, but when it sits still it gets clear! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10208834
That is the problem I am having. I read the OP, not much more though. If anyone could let me know why this is happening and how to fix it, that would be awesome! Oh also, what do I change for better quality? Don't know what my computer can handle, so I wanna see what I can go to. http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/559/settingsn.png (too wide for image) Speedtest + Show Spoiler +
I'm using Procaster on LiveStream, and my stream was working fine until I keep getting this error. Has anyone ever ran into this or know how to fix this?
On October 19 2010 00:32 tofucake wrote: Asking for Livestream product support in a ustream thread?
Doubt you'll get much help. You're better off posting on the Livestream forums.
I'm aware of that, but since I couldn't find a "Livestream support thread" and figured some Livestreamers went from Livestream to Ustream/Justin.tv or vice-versa, I'm sure someone at least came across this issue at some point.
By all means, if you have the link to the Livestream support thread, please post.
On September 14 2010 05:38 tofucake wrote: @Ktzero3: Lowering keyframe rate should lower processing requirements, and make your stream a bit smoother (but lower quality if you jump around a lot). Also, you can boost your stream quality by sticking SC1 on 1 core and FMLE on 3. Video processing/encoding is one of the very few things that is a greedy multitasker. Also, why did you underclock your RAM? Also, you can use a program called Virtual Audio Cable to pump a bunch of different sources into a single output line and have FMLE use that as audio.
On September 14 2010 03:42 dotFX wrote: Ok, I have a Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio card and It doesn't support stereo mixer in the recording devices, and only has it's own mixer that is not recognized by FMLE. Does anyone know a work arround?
What OS are you on?
lowering keyframe rate WILL make the stream smoother, but it increases processor load as its an encoded frame with as little loss in quality as possible. higher quality = more proc power needed. increasing keyframe rate, then increases proc power.
I don't even........what? Lowering the rate means increasing the time between keyframes. How does processor load increase when you lower keyframe rate and raise when you increase keyframe rate? Please make sense.
lowering keyframe interval from 10s to 5s increases the amount of keyframes. you will have a keyframe every 10s compare to every 5s. if you have a keyframe every 5s, that is MORE often than every 10s. simple math. let me reiterate that lowering keyframe rate WILL make the stream smoother, but only if your set up can handle it (it will increase processor load). also, if it still doesn't make sense, then think of keyframe interval as the interval (time difference, x-y=z) between two frames. alas, i digress and since you can't take the time to wikipedia anything:
as someone already mentioned, a keyframe is a no delta frame with no loss or compression. differences in between keyframes are used to fill in the keyframes and allow for animation and moving of objects. delivering just the differences in between keyframes allows for compression and decrease in bandwidth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_frame 'Video compression' section: "...For example, a key frame may be output once for each 10 seconds of video, even though the video image does not change enough visually to warrant the automatic creation of the key frame. That would allow seeking within the video stream at a minimum of 10 second intervals. The down side is that the resulting video stream will be larger in size because many key frames were added when they were not necessary for the visual representation of the frame..."
if it still doesn't make sense, then i would suggest playing around with with flash or after effects (it might help you understand). maybe even start reading up on video compression codecs like h264/x264 (which FMLE uses).
I meant lowering the keyframe rate as in lower the number of keyframes, so more time between them, not lowering the time between them resulting in more keyframes.
On October 19 2010 04:14 tofucake wrote: Once again, clash of English with English.
I meant lowering the keyframe rate as in lower the number of keyframes, so more time between them, not lowering the time between them resulting in more keyframes.
And I know all about video encoding ty.
i knew you knew what i was trying to say. i think you just wanted to...*won't complete sentence*
I'm getting frustrated since I can't make ustream work smoothly - all I'm getting are lags, spikes and more lags. Here are my specs:
AMD Athlon II x2 250 processor 3GHz with 4MB RAM and NVIDIA GFORCE 9800 GT, win 7 64bit. SC2 set to medium and speed test shows this:
I have more dl, but it was used by other computer when I was taking test. So can someone tell me what would be optimal streaming resolution/fps, etc. settings to make it work smoothly?
My default resolution is 1360x768 but I'm lowering it for streaming purposes to 1280x702. Am I able to achieve anything better then what I'm getting atm @ livestream with their upl cap?
Looking for some help myself. I just bought a beast of a computer. i7 Quad, 3.2 GHz, 8GB memory and a GeForce GTX480.
I want to try steam, but I have some serious issues where the stream will just be stuck with 1-3 fps. Tried lowering bitrate to 100, and resolution to something ridiculous like 100x62, but it still just completely lags out. Now I am really clueless as to why this happens. Speedtest showed 12MB download, 2.4 MB upload with a ping of 27, so really should not be an issue. I can play the game with 90+ fps while streaming, but the problem seems to be somewhere else. Tried to play around with every combination of processor affinity without any luck aswell. All firewallsettings have been looked through, everything seems like it should be perfect. I followed the guide at the start of this thread, and have done exactly like it said, and played around with every setting I could find without result.
On October 21 2010 06:59 Detectable wrote: Looking for some help myself. I just bought a beast of a computer. i7 Quad, 3.2 GHz, 8GB memory and a GeForce GTX480.
I want to try steam, but I have some serious issues where the stream will just be stuck with 1-3 fps. Tried lowering bitrate to 100, and resolution to something ridiculous like 100x62, but it still just completely lags out. Now I am really clueless as to why this happens. Speedtest showed 12MB download, 2.4 MB upload with a ping of 27, so really should not be an issue. I can play the game with 90+ fps while streaming, but the problem seems to be somewhere else. Tried to play around with every combination of processor affinity without any luck aswell. All firewallsettings have been looked through, everything seems like it should be perfect. I followed the guide at the start of this thread, and have done exactly like it said, and played around with every setting I could find without result.
Figured I'd post this because it seems like it could be a common problem:
If you are using a Realtek audio solution, the latest Realtek audio drivers have Stereo Mix disabled, as in impossible to enable, by default. There is no way to get around it. I googled this endlessly and people kept saying to "just right click and show disabled devices" and I wanted to punch a baby every time I read it because Stereo Mix was just nonexistent.
The reason Stereo Mix is nonexistent is because of some shenanigans involving the RIAA pressuring audio companies to stop including this feature so that people can't record DRM-free mp3s from DRMed mp3s.
The fix is to google "Realtek Vista_Win7_R237" and find that driver package. That was the last driver package to support Stereo Mix for Realtek, and works beautifully as I just installed it.
On October 23 2010 09:00 seiferoth10 wrote: Figured I'd post this because it seems like it could be a common problem:
If you are using a Realtek audio solution, the latest Realtek audio drivers have Stereo Mix disabled, as in impossible to enable, by default. There is no way to get around it. I googled this endlessly and people kept saying to "just right click and show disabled devices" and I wanted to punch a baby every time I read it because Stereo Mix was just nonexistent.
The reason Stereo Mix is nonexistent is because of some shenanigans involving the RIAA pressuring audio companies to stop including this feature so that people can't record DRM-free mp3s from DRMed mp3s.
The fix is to google "Realtek Vista_Win7_R237" and find that driver package. That was the last driver package to support Stereo Mix for Realtek, and works beautifully as I just installed it.
I ran into this problem. I'm running win 7 with the latest Realtek HD audio driver. After an hour of screwing around all i had to do was go to recording devices and right click the empty space and click show disabled devices and you could enable it from there. Still wanna punch a baby? It really did work for me though :3
My problem is, I've installed Adobe Flash Media Streaming Server 4 and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.1 multiple times. In the folder i don't see any file to run the program.
On October 23 2010 09:00 seiferoth10 wrote: Figured I'd post this because it seems like it could be a common problem:
If you are using a Realtek audio solution, the latest Realtek audio drivers have Stereo Mix disabled, as in impossible to enable, by default. There is no way to get around it. I googled this endlessly and people kept saying to "just right click and show disabled devices" and I wanted to punch a baby every time I read it because Stereo Mix was just nonexistent.
The reason Stereo Mix is nonexistent is because of some shenanigans involving the RIAA pressuring audio companies to stop including this feature so that people can't record DRM-free mp3s from DRMed mp3s.
The fix is to google "Realtek Vista_Win7_R237" and find that driver package. That was the last driver package to support Stereo Mix for Realtek, and works beautifully as I just installed it.
I ran into this problem. I'm running win 7 with the latest Realtek HD audio driver. After an hour of screwing around all i had to do was go to recording devices and right click the empty space and click show disabled devices and you could enable it from there. Still wanna punch a baby? It really did work for me though :3
My problem is, I've installed Adobe Flash Media Streaming Server 4 and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.1 multiple times. In the folder i don't see any file to run the program.
what do you need the streaming server for? are you trying to create your own stream on your own website? FMLE 3.1 comes with a GUI and a cmd version.
I was wondering about the delay for Ustream, what could I do to cut that down? It gets really bad sometimes and without thinking I spoil stuff for viewers:-P
On October 21 2010 06:59 Detectable wrote: Looking for some help myself. I just bought a beast of a computer. i7 Quad, 3.2 GHz, 8GB memory and a GeForce GTX480.
I want to try steam, but I have some serious issues where the stream will just be stuck with 1-3 fps. Tried lowering bitrate to 100, and resolution to something ridiculous like 100x62, but it still just completely lags out. Now I am really clueless as to why this happens. Speedtest showed 12MB download, 2.4 MB upload with a ping of 27, so really should not be an issue. I can play the game with 90+ fps while streaming, but the problem seems to be somewhere else. Tried to play around with every combination of processor affinity without any luck aswell. All firewallsettings have been looked through, everything seems like it should be perfect. I followed the guide at the start of this thread, and have done exactly like it said, and played around with every setting I could find without result.
Anyone have a clue what might be the problem?
Have you disabled Screen Optimization in VHScrCap settings?
I read through most of the thread but I couldn't find what the hell I'm doing wrong. When I stream, I only see a tiny portion of the screen streamed. In FMLE everything seems to be captured in the preview window. What setting is incorrect? It feel like I'm missing something very simple... + Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2010 20:19 StillRooney wrote: I read through most of the thread but I couldn't find what the hell I'm doing wrong. When I stream, I only see a tiny portion of the screen streamed. In FMLE everything seems to be captured in the preview window. What setting is incorrect? It feel like I'm missing something very simple... + Show Spoiler +
This is how the stream comes out: Settings:
Thankful for any advice
Did you click start on FMLE then open the ustream broadcaster?
On October 30 2010 22:16 Klesky wrote: Go into your VHscr capture or whatever it is, and make sure you check 'track screen' in the capture options. Turn off 'track mouse' as well. Turn off 'optimize whole screen capture.' While you're at it. Otherwise you'll experience seemingly random spurts of 0.7 fps. Change your FME FPS to 20, and then on ustream, change it to 20. This will allow your precious 500kbps to go into quality rather than more frames. At the very least, make the two frame rates correspond.
Thanks for the help, unfortunately the issue remains, only now it only captures the very upper left corner of the screen very zoomed in instead of following the cursor. What I changed: Changed all framerates to 20. Checked "Track screen" Unchecked "Track mouse" Unchecked "Optimize screen capture"
Im using a USB headset with attached microphone. I followed the guide with setting stereo mix on and enabling the microphone sound in my headset. However when i select stereo mix as source in FME I get no feed at all. If i look at the stereo mix its not going up either when i make a sound or play some movie.
Because of the way GOM player paints its window. There's nothing you can do. Unless you've only tried it in fullscreen, in that case try it windowed. Other than that, it's just the way GOM player paints the window.
Hello there, this question is about how to stream through Xsplit that also can be used by Ustream, allthough I use own3d.tv
So, I cant get both mic + in game sounds to work simultaniously, only one of them will work at a time. And its quite annoying. I've tried VAC without sucess and I have no clue what to do. I have watched 1500 tutorials on youtube, none of them have worked or helped me at all.
I use XP. I have tried to get the latest drivers also for my Realtek, (Mine is still old, so not the same options etc as displayed in the guide, so cant do anything there, also I have Windows XP still). So is there anyway to get around this? I really want to get it working :\
All I can change in my realtek audio manager is to either change to "Stereo Mix" or "Mic Volume" Stereo Mix gives me ingame sounds but mic wont work. "Mic Volume" gives me a working mic but no ingame sound. Please help!
Hey, Thanks for the help! I got it working great but for some reason my stream is still watermarked. I noticed you crossed out the stuff about it being watermarkerd. Did I miss something?
Thanks for the help! I finally got to set up my ustream! However, what should I do to not use too much CPU? Right now I'm using 60% without even SC2 running! Look at this video to see how choppy the picture is sometimes, and how laggy it is:
I'm having huge troubles with FMLE streaming to ustream / justin.tv
Computer: Phaenom X4 4x3,6Ghz with 4 gigs of DDR-3 ram, 64 Bit Win7. connection 50Mbit/5Mbit cable.
So I have a pretty good connection, and I have trouble streaming with a remotely decent bitrate. My 5 Mbit upload should be able to handle at least 1MBit with easy, but I can't even stream with 250kbps in 960x540 and mono audio with 64kbit, 20fps. Within seconds my output buffer in FLME starts to increase rapidly. After 5 minutes of streaming I'm usually at a few hundred seconds buffer. My publishing bandwidth shows a measily 200kbps. At 350kbps FMLE looses connection to the media server because it can't even handle the buffering anymore.
All that means my connection can't seem to handle the streaming and I can't figure out why. With my specs I should be able to stream with at least 1000kbps/25fps/720P.
Any ideas?
*edit* I'm sitting at work atm. I have a crappy dual core notebook connected to a 5mbit/5mbit synchronous DSL line here. I have no troubles whatsoever streaming in 800x450 with 500kbps at 25fps. It doesn't even start buffering, it runs silky smooth.
Hello everyone! Tried to set up my stream a little while ago with no luck, figured I'd try again. Still - no luck!
I can get the video to come through just fine, yet I get miserable FPS. My PC itself runs fine, yet the stream FPS seems to drop and lag behind. I used pretty much the same specs in the setup, with a couple minor changes to resolution due to me having a horrible monitor xD
PC Specs: i7 860 - 2.8 GHz 8gb ddr3 Radeon HD 5770
I can run SC2 at all ultra settings with no problem. When I stream, my FPS doesn't lag on the PC itself, yet drops significantly in FMLE (averages around 9 I would say).
Thanks a lot. I followed the video tutorial and got my stream up, but I'm hoping you guys can help me optimize the settings. Of course, I'm going to keep fiddling around with the settings myself to see what works best, but I would also appreciate input since I'm definitely no expert at this stuff.
My computer specs: AMD Phenom II X4 925 (2.8 GHz quad core) 4gb ddr3 Radeon HD 5770
I want to be able to stream sc2 on medium settings. According to speedtest.net, my download and upload are 17.80 Mb/s and 0.96 Mb/s respectively.
What's the highest quality stream I can go for without hindering my gameplay with lag? I've been trying to do 20 fps with a bitrate of 650 Kbps at 800x450. It usually stays around 20 fps, but it seems just a bit too blurry to me. When I try to increase the quality to 800 Kbps, I drop to around 18 fps. Is my computer maxing out or is there something else I can do?
On October 30 2010 22:16 Klesky wrote: Go into your VHscr capture or whatever it is, and make sure you check 'track screen' in the capture options. Turn off 'track mouse' as well. Turn off 'optimize whole screen capture.' While you're at it. Otherwise you'll experience seemingly random spurts of 0.7 fps. Change your FME FPS to 20, and then on ustream, change it to 20. This will allow your precious 500kbps to go into quality rather than more frames. At the very least, make the two frame rates correspond.
Thanks for the help, unfortunately the issue remains, only now it only captures the very upper left corner of the screen very zoomed in instead of following the cursor. What I changed: Changed all framerates to 20. Checked "Track screen" Unchecked "Track mouse" Unchecked "Optimize screen capture"
Any more ideas? This is incredibly frustrating since I'm unsure what half the settings do
If you open VHCapture you should be able to see a preview window, if that preview window shows only the top left, your problem lies with the VHScr Capture driver.
If you look in adobe FME, look at both the output and input, if only the output is the top left, but the input is the entire image, then it's FME. Bear in mind that, those preview windows in FME have scroll bars, or you can scale it with the drop down box above the preview window in FME.
If it's only on ustream that the top-left part of the screen is showing, then it must be ustream, so. Tell me where the problem's at, because I can't tell from your settings, they seem fine.
Was this ever fixed cuz I have the SAME problem.. . .=o
My screen is always HUGE, and I have no idea why. My resolution isn't available in any of the dropdowns (1440x900). Even if I change my resolution though the screen is just massive. Any help please?
hey guys, i'm trying to get back to answering questions and stuff, and i have some new exciting stuff to share with you all. will be making a video soon.
I followed everything word by word but...some reason my UStream video isnt loading and when i look at the AFML it shows this bright ass pink bar around the box in the right nad the left side is just pink...can anyone help me figure this out plz?
ok i got it running but...i have no sound and the resolution of the Flash media encoder is alot bigger than my 1600x900...sol theres a giant black bare on the bottom and right side....theres no option for 1600x900 on the reso list...how would i fix this? and i have absolutely no sound =(
I've fixed the video problem (FPS is kinda shit, but am currently working on that) but I can't get in-game sound to work. My mic works fine, I have my stereo mix enabled but I'm not sure what I need to do from there really. Any help would be much appreciated.
@ lgoasklucyl I would try to switch over to h.264 codec. When I did that it seemed to really pick up speed.
I do have my Own issue however. I have a pretty robust rig but I get terrible hiccups and all around crap streams. I use FMLE 3.1 on a windows 7 64bit system. The Specs are as follows i7 @ 3.1ghz ish 12 gb of ram SLI 8800gts monitor sits @ 1920x1080 ISP@ 25mb down 5mb up
I use multicam for the feed into FLME. I have multicam bring the resolution down to 720 and feed that directly into FLME. FLME then puts out 720 @ 1000 kbps. I use the h.264 codec and have it in main @ 3.1 with 2 sec key frames. NO matter what i do as far as setting manipulation, resolution, kbps, level, input and output size OR frame rate, I still get hiccups in the stream every second or so.
My fps is @ 25, however I have attempted every fps practically, and I still get the same symptoms. I took a system monitor and watched my cpu load and i never touched 80% even with sc2 running and streaming. So I am currently at a loss. Hell i even made sure VHcap and all that jazz was lined up per white shadow's instructions.
needless to say I'm kind of at the end of said leash. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
On December 12 2010 06:25 CaiSter wrote: Why doesn't everyone just use xsplit beta?
it is a lot simpler to set up than FMLE and it does use as much resources.
xsplit still has HD resolution (max is 720p) and the ability to change bitrate and audio quality.
because its a beta, i was excited about using it and was streaming our schools CSL...FAIL kept stopping randomly in the middle of a broadcast. apparently its a known issue and they are fixing it, until then i wouldn't suggest using it, but it is pretty damn awesome. also, xsplit beta does use FMLE, that's why it uses the same resources... you just don't see FMLE running, but it is running i believe.
i'm gonna make another video in a bit, it'll be a quick tutorial, but i'll talk about some ways you can make your set up a little better.
On December 12 2010 12:26 venerati wrote: @ lgoasklucyl I would try to switch over to h.264 codec. When I did that it seemed to really pick up speed.
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needless to say I'm kind of at the end of said leash. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
oh boy. what FPS avg are you outputting in the FMLE console? 20 is a decent number. i'm afraid though that it might be your graphics card. if you're not outputting 25 FPS in SC2, you can't output 25 FPS to your stream. i think that is the main issue. if you are playing at 1080p on medium settings, you are probably going to run into issues, i'm not even sure an 8800 can handle it that well. try turning down your SC2 settings.
for some reason i can't get my audio to work... when i open the adobe flash media live thing... there is no device for me to select audio from.. why is this? how do i fix it? this is pissing me off.. i have searched alot of places and cannot seem to find the answer anywhere...
So there's been no mention of this in the thread, but I'm curious if any FMLE + UStream users are having the issue where their system will just hang, which generates no entry in the error log.
I'm somewhat to the point where I believe its related to VLC because I can't seem to think of a time where I froze and VLC wasn't also open. I streamed Saturday for something like 10 hours without a hitch (WoW), but froze later with a media stream open in VLC, having never turned FMLE off in the process. Other days I'll have VLC streams up for entire nights without an issues. The amount of stuff running in the background, the amount of time since the last reboot, affinities, priorities, etc. don't seem to affect the freezing, at all. I'd kill for a way just to generate an error message and figure it out =/. I've run most of the normal hardware testers (memtest, prime86, various HDD programs) and haven't had any problems. I also simply don't crash or freeze up doing anything else, but I crash *all the time* with FMLE (plus maybe VLC, although I don't have a 100% causal link there yet -- I plan to try and narrow this down in the near future if I can.)
In any event, I'm curious to hear from people freezing like this even if you don't use VLC. It's very frustrating.
@ white shadow. I am getting 21 average fps out @ 720. The thing that i notice how ever, is that the bit rates spike on the output. I am not sure if this is normal, but I feel that this might have something to do with the issue. While in game with FLME running I avg 40 fps. this kind of hiccup and lag spike would be VERY noticeable in game. I have slammed down the resolution and the settings and even switched out the card to a Nvidia GTX 275. none of which makes a damn bit of difference. Also I can stream 720 camera feeds all day with not a single issue. So bandwidth would be out of the question.
Lol idk, I will continue battling this hooker and will get back with any solutions. Thanks for the input!
On December 14 2010 00:50 venerati wrote: @ white shadow. I am getting 21 average fps out @ 720. The thing that i notice how ever, is that the bit rates spike on the output. I am not sure if this is normal, but I feel that this might have something to do with the issue. While in game with FLME running I avg 40 fps. this kind of hiccup and lag spike would be VERY noticeable in game. I have slammed down the resolution and the settings and even switched out the card to a Nvidia GTX 275. none of which makes a damn bit of difference. Also I can stream 720 camera feeds all day with not a single issue. So bandwidth would be out of the question.
Lol idk, I will continue battling this hooker and will get back with any solutions. Thanks for the input!
i think its personal preference mostly, but 20 fps is more than enough and seems to be the standard for user streams. 30 fps might be the most i would even consider going. remember, people are just watching your stream, not playing, so they don't need super fast response times or super high FPS.
as for the bit rate spikes, that's supposed to happen, there will be times where nothing will be moving on the screen, so its essentially a still image + voice. then when you're actually streaming movement you'll get spikes. unfortunately, i don't know how you can change settings in the x264 codec besides what you get to see in FMLE.
On October 30 2010 22:16 Klesky wrote: Go into your VHscr capture or whatever it is, and make sure you check 'track screen' in the capture options. Turn off 'track mouse' as well. Turn off 'optimize whole screen capture.' While you're at it. Otherwise you'll experience seemingly random spurts of 0.7 fps. Change your FME FPS to 20, and then on ustream, change it to 20. This will allow your precious 500kbps to go into quality rather than more frames. At the very least, make the two frame rates correspond.
Thanks for the help, unfortunately the issue remains, only now it only captures the very upper left corner of the screen very zoomed in instead of following the cursor. What I changed: Changed all framerates to 20. Checked "Track screen" Unchecked "Track mouse" Unchecked "Optimize screen capture"
Any more ideas? This is incredibly frustrating since I'm unsure what half the settings do
I'm having the exact same problem and it's driving me INSANE! I've done everything proposed so far, and the input on VHCapture and the input/output on FME look normal. It's ONLY the UStream window that is showing the tiny portion of the screen. Any ideas?
I hate stereo mix so much. I have it enabled in the Windows 7 sound options. It's not muted. It's set as the default device. In the "listen" tab, it's set to playback through my audio source (Realtek Digital Output). All the levels are set correctly. It should be working, but it's not. It's not picking up anything from digital audio output. The stereo mix levels don't move and I don't get any sound on my stream.
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? Is it because I'm using a digital output for my sound, and maybe stereo mix can only pickup analogue sounds?
Ok I've managed to sort out every problem I have except for 1. After I got Stereo mix to work my mic stopped working. It's still the default communication device, I haven't tinkered with it at all, it's just literally as soon as Stereo mix started working my mic stopped. Any idea on what the problem could be?
On December 15 2010 13:17 scottyyy wrote: I hate stereo mix so much. I have it enabled in the Windows 7 sound options. It's not muted. It's set as the default device. In the "listen" tab, it's set to playback through my audio source (Realtek Digital Output). All the levels are set correctly. It should be working, but it's not. It's not picking up anything from digital audio output. The stereo mix levels don't move and I don't get any sound on my stream.
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? Is it because I'm using a digital output for my sound, and maybe stereo mix can only pickup analogue sounds?
Ok so I figured this out. Stereo mix can't be used with digital audio. I had to plug my headphones into my onboard audio and use it as analogue speakers to get stereo mix working. So now I have a stable stream with audio on justin.tv, which is awesome. But I'd like to get it working on ustream instead.
Did anyone ever find a fix for the ustream broadcaster not picking up FME 2.5 command line?
On December 15 2010 21:55 Rayven wrote: Ok I've managed to sort out every problem I have except for 1. After I got Stereo mix to work my mic stopped working. It's still the default communication device, I haven't tinkered with it at all, it's just literally as soon as Stereo mix started working my mic stopped. Any idea on what the problem could be?
You probably have to use virtual audio cable and combine stereo mix and your mic into 1 input, then use that input in FME.
On December 14 2010 01:00 ToastieNL wrote: Im having a MSI gx720 laptop where I play SC2 on with medium to high graphics. It runs without problems.
Can I handle streaming with it?
kind regards
As a general rule I'd say you need at least a 3 core processor. 1 for streaming and 2 for starcraft. But really, you can stream at low quality with low quality settings in starcraft on just about anything. Watch out for overheating though on a laptop!
P.S. If anyone wants me to add/change anything on the OP just send a PM. I don't check this thread much anymore :o
hello, i'm sorry to bump this but I was wondering how I can make Broodwar fit on my youtube screen? I've been casting some games but starcraft screen is getting cut off. I'm using VH capture and i'm recording it directly onto youtube
I'm having some strange issues with ustream. I'm using VH screen capture and FMLE 3.1. Using Ustream producer everything is fine, I can stream fine on livestream too so I don't think its a bandwidth issue. When I try to use FMLE at a low or high bit rate, medium resolution to low resolution, etc. my stream is extremely choppy unless I open up ustream and watch my own stream while I'm streaming.
I have VH and FMLE at the same framerate, I have tried playing with the main key frame setting from 3-10 seconds, 3.1-4.0 etc.
As per day9, I have FMLE running on cores 0-3, sc2 running on cores 4-5, and VH on 6-7.
My specs are i7 950@ 4ghz, 6gb ram, 18mb down/1.5mb up. Thanks in advance.
What if we don't have the Realtek sound card and cannot enable the Stereo Mix? Everything else works fine for me, but I cannot get sound to work on my stream
i got realtek sound card but i got windows XP could you please explain me where to find stereo mix there? i rly cant find it everthing else is fine ppl hear me talking and stuff but the game sound/music. please help
Problem solved friend of mine helped :s thanks for this epic thread ! :>
Can anyone recommend me a soundcard where stereo-mix (or the brand equivalent) works without problems in windows 7? My audigy only has this option when installing old vista drivers and apparently they have the habit of auto updating (which could probably be disabled somehow). I would still prefer a clean solution over such tricks.
On December 26 2010 22:12 TBO wrote: Can anyone recommend me a soundcard where stereo-mix (or the brand equivalent) works without problems in windows 7? My audigy only has this option when installing old vista drivers and apparently they have the habit of auto updating (which could probably be disabled somehow). I would still prefer a clean solution over such tricks.
almost ALL motherboards come with onboard audio, usually something from realtek. i would suggest just getting those drivers and enabling your onboard audio chipset.
Thank you very much - I solved the audio problems.
I do have another problem though. When I record SC2 (following the whole tutorial), my SC2 framerate stays at a stable 60 FPS however there is still some noticable jerking when units move and I have no clue what that causes (it even happens if I really reduce the quality of the recording and the stream to absolute low values), and given that I am at stable 60 FPS I have no clue what causes this, it totally makes no sense, CPU load isn't nearly maxed out either.
It not like it is lagging or I have low frames or anything just that the units seem to "jump" in between the frames
Just installed VH Capture and got everything up and running, however I have no video or audio compressor options.My mic and webcam are installed correctly and I have the k-like codec pack installed as well, is there anything else I need to do?
I made a separate thread about this, but no one seemed to answer yet. Anyway, I've set up ustream with the camtasia/amfl method. Everything works fine while streaming except the audio, which is loud and lame. I recorded a youtube video which was fine, just broodwar seems to be poor quality.. any ideas?
Hello, okay so my screen capture and FME 3.2 all work great, the only problem is, I don't understand what I type in FMS URL and Stream.
I tried opening that file up under advanced settings, but it just says that file can't be opened. But if I start up ustream my video is there, but it's way too small and the whole screen doesn't show up, I have to then make it 300x200 and that's too tiny...
and this is what I get in my ustream window
And it's bugging me, any help would be really appreciated.
On January 01 2011 09:27 Skillz_Man wrote: Hello, okay so my screen capture and FME 3.2 all work great, the only problem is, I don't understand what I type in FMS URL and Stream.
I tried opening that file up under advanced settings, but it just says that file can't be opened. But if I start up ustream my video is there, but it's way too small and the whole screen doesn't show up, I have to then make it 300x200 and that's too tiny...
and this is what I get in my ustream window
And it's bugging me, any help would be really appreciated.
You DL and SAVE the XML from ustream. then File > Open Profile in FMLE.
it'll fill in the FMS URL and stuff for you. then you setup your FMLE settings.
ok so for somre reason on both jtv and ustream my sound gets repeated for like 1 min. so like if im laying a song the lyrics will get repeated over and over but will get quieter
On January 02 2011 02:53 pureability wrote: ok so for somre reason on both jtv and ustream my sound gets repeated for like 1 min. so like if im laying a song the lyrics will get repeated over and over but will get quieter
anyone know why?
Silly question, but do you have your own stream open without muting it?
On January 02 2011 02:53 pureability wrote: ok so for somre reason on both jtv and ustream my sound gets repeated for like 1 min. so like if im laying a song the lyrics will get repeated over and over but will get quieter
anyone know why?
since you said u muted ur stream.
are you playing on speakers and ur mic is picking it up ?
On January 01 2011 00:45 TBO wrote: Thank you very much - I solved the audio problems.
I do have another problem though. When I record SC2 (following the whole tutorial), my SC2 framerate stays at a stable 60 FPS however there is still some noticable jerking when units move and I have no clue what that causes (it even happens if I really reduce the quality of the recording and the stream to absolute low values), and given that I am at stable 60 FPS I have no clue what causes this, it totally makes no sense, CPU load isn't nearly maxed out either.
It not like it is lagging or I have low frames or anything just that the units seem to "jump" in between the frames
I know this post is a bit old but I am having similar issues. If you check this thread, maybe we can work together (if you haven't already figured it out ).
I too run at 60 FPS in game, 30 in menu, and notice some jittering. In fact, I notice jittering when I'm using my web browser too.
I have determined it only occurs when Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder (I'm using 3.2) is opened. I'm thinking this means it's most likely AFMLE or the VHSrcCap driver (which I downloaded the most recent one).
I'm going to try using different versions for both programs and see how it goes.
EDIT: I should mention I'm running a pretty decent rig so I don't think this can be the issue (i7-950 + GTX 460 1GB + 6 GB RAM).
quick question...is my location being in south korea the primary reason why i cannot stream on ustream? everything is working perfectly, but my stream will shut off every 2 minutes or so, and my only guess is the connection...but i don't lose my connection nor notice any hiccups with the games i'm playing.
I'm sorry for asking this question, I actually read the first 11 pages trying to search if anyone els had the same problem as I have. Me and a friend started this guide (on seperate computers using skype) and BOTH of us got the same problem and none of us being smart enough to fix it, ok here it goes!
When I stream, I'm streeming my mouse, about 6x6 (desktop icon sizes, not sure how to explain it) and once i move my mouse, my "camera" follows it in ustream but in my AFME, it's just recording 10x30% of my screen...
I'v tried a billion diffrent settings, diffrent settings by chance, what other people have tried in this thread and rewatched the video guide, I haven't done anything diffrent (what i know of)
Would some sweet casting pro help me?
<Edit> Okey, I rebooted my computer, re checked everything befor i started it, and it worked perfectly, no freaking idea why it was effing me up for 2½-3 hours... </edit>
On January 18 2011 09:07 osten wrote: Hello and thanks for the help so far.
There is something terribly wrong with my computer router modem or connection speed.
I have tried loads of different settings, but the quality dosen't seem to matter.
None of the cores go above 80% while recording, but the framerate and the bitrate in the encoder is extremely extremely low.
This is the wierd lag that occurs that somehow does not encompass the cursor: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLZOTTk7Doo
Thanks
I have the same exact problem. Doesn't matter if I stream to justin.tv or ustream.tv. Lags anyway. 10 mbit upload and my cores aren't used very much either.
On January 18 2011 10:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: My current suggestion is, disregard the entire guide and get Xsplit, it's much easier.
It is much easier. But not as high quality. I'd like to be able to stream full HD and not "just" 720p.
For some reason, H 264 won't even enable the option for me to select 1080, despite everything else being able to. When I switch to Vp6, it allows me to choose output 1080...any ideas why?
Is there a way to get the quality better? My VH capture input resolution is at 1680x1050 but FMLE doesnt have an input res of 1680x1050 option. So I have to choose the highest one, then crop. The quality is just horrible though. Anything I can try to get the quality nicer?
On January 24 2011 01:54 Sl4ktarN wrote: Hmmm, I cant seem to get my gamesound to get recorded since I dont have the right sound card for "stereo mixer" and cant seem to work out VAC, tips?
I believe this is your cheapest option http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm It's a slightly cumbersome solution but it does work after a little bit of tweaking and it's easy to use once you figure it out.
For some odd reason, when I select h. 264, my audio comes out as complete garble (just weird noises not relating to anything), but when I select VP6 it sounds great. Also- I'm using my audigy's "what u hear" for audio, anyone have any clue why it would do this? Thanks for any help...
Very nice guide, thanks very much for taking the time to write this up.
I have followed all of the instructions and am only 1 step away from going live. The issue I am having is with my microphone. It works...and the speakers work...but I can hear my mic playing through my speakers. It's annoying for me, and the viewer can hear this annoying static in the background. To hear what I'm talking about, check out this video I just made:
I have searched high and low for an answer, and this was the only thread that I stumbled across that might be able to provide me a solution. I have checked day9's streaming guide on pcworld, I checked the guide at pwnnoobs.com, I have read through this and all of the tip sections, but nothing seems to show me how to fix this.
Any advice is appreciated, and I apologize if this has been answered elsewhere. I did a search, but did not yield any results.
Can anyone tell me what kind of quality I *should* be able to stream with? (particularly the FPS I will be getting as I play the game on all Low 1920x1080).
On February 06 2011 07:22 Vei wrote: Can anyone tell me what kind of quality I *should* be able to stream with? (particularly the FPS I will be getting as I play the game on all Low 1920x1080).
because currently i'm getting DECENT results, but i'm not getting that "super smooth" fps i'm used to playing on for myself.
That should be more than enough to stream tbh, I only have an Athlon II quad core and a 5770 and I can stream on low with little to no lag. As far as FPS goes I don't check often but my stream was at about 25-30 and my screen itself was like 60, I think.
sorry can i ask why my Video source and my Audio source is not blank? It said: "VHScrCap"
another thing is i am able to stream but then the Stream only show a part where my mouse moving around but not the Fullscreen.
Please help
edit: ARH sorry i read the thread and got this
If Ustream asks for your webcam/audio then FMLE isn't sending the stream to ustream correctly. Close the browser window with the Ustream broadcaster in it. Go back to FMLE and stop the stream. Finally, DISCONNECT the stream by a button on the right side of FMLE. Start the stream again, it will reconnect automatically. Don't connect the stream manually, just hit the big green Start button on FMLE.
Finally, start the broadcaster. Only start the broadcaster AFTER FMLE is streaming.
On January 28 2011 07:40 krnjoker6 wrote: How do you set it so the input resolution is 1280x720 but it still captures your whole screen?
I'm wondering about this as well...
In VH Capture you set the capture window to be your full screen, then tick the resize output box and set the output as 1280x720.
Since FMLE only seems to support up to 1920x1080p and my desktop is 1920x1200 I have to do this else the bottom of my screen gets cut off If your screen is not the same aspect ratio you will want to put maintain aspect on, then it will put black bars at the sides to fill out the space.
not sure if this question has been answered when i start broadcasting everything looks great but my broadcast only shows my moniter on like half the screen. hard to explain but lets say the boradcast that people see is divided into 4 quarters. the top left quarter is the only thing with my moniter on it. The other 3 quarters are filler with a color. not sure how to fix it to where fullscreen is my fullscreen
For those who still haven't done so, switch over to XSplit. It's much more efficient, and doesn't require as much hassling with the settings from a bunch of different programs. I never managed to solve any problems I had with FMLE + VH Screen Cap, either, so I just ignored them and started using XSplit >.<
Step 1: make sure both VHSC and FMLE are running. Step 2: Assuming you already have a ustream account, go to the Advanced tab on your show's settings. Scroll down to this area: and download that XML file to your local machine (don't select open). Step 3: install the two programs you downloaded, FMLE and VHScreenCapture. Start both programs
Ok I have 1 problem while trying to stream SC2, when ever i try and stream it with me playing on fullscreen the stream is black screen and you can only see the mouse. any way to fix this using FMLE and VHSC? or do i have to play windowed mode and crop it?
On February 17 2011 12:21 Snoyarc wrote: Ok I have 1 problem while trying to stream SC2, when ever i try and stream it with me playing on fullscreen the stream is black screen and you can only see the mouse. any way to fix this using FMLE and VHSC? or do i have to play windowed mode and crop it?
This is something that has been problematic for me too. I've got everything else working perfectly, but I can't stream because SC2 just shows up as a black screen. I'm trying to use VH Screen Capture, but it doesn't seem to be working.
On February 17 2011 12:21 Snoyarc wrote: Ok I have 1 problem while trying to stream SC2, when ever i try and stream it with me playing on fullscreen the stream is black screen and you can only see the mouse. any way to fix this using FMLE and VHSC? or do i have to play windowed mode and crop it?
This is something that has been problematic for me too. I've got everything else working perfectly, but I can't stream because SC2 just shows up as a black screen. I'm trying to use VH Screen Capture, but it doesn't seem to be working.
You should be streaming in Windowed Full screen, not the regular full screen.
this is a very good guide and i was able to set it up almost perfectly. but i realized when i was streaming, i would have like 950 ping or near 1k making it unplayable for me. what settings should i change to improve my ping? im sure this would come at the expense of losing quality but yea thanks!
On February 18 2011 09:50 Victorious wrote: this is a very good guide and i was able to set it up almost perfectly. but i realized when i was streaming, i would have like 950 ping or near 1k making it unplayable for me. what settings should i change to improve my ping? im sure this would come at the expense of losing quality but yea thanks!
Thats exactly it you would likely need to drop the quality of the stream. Click on preferences --> Video tab and reduce the outpout resolution until your internet service can handle it. Also check the "Lock Ratio" box, makes it alot easier to adjust your output res. Theres also the slight chance that its your processor not being able to keep up, but either way lowering the video output should help. good luck.
Hey I 've been trying to finda solution through here. But, I can't seem to get 'any' sound beyond my microphone working on my stream. No music, no ingame sound, but, my microphone works.. :/ any idea of solutions?
Im using a steelseries 7h usb headset so i cant find this 'real audio' option explained... :\
I've been asking pretty much everywhere but I'll try here too. Is it possible with any encoder/video capture software to play and capture the game on one computer and encode it with another one in LAN?
Just a quick question, when I run Skype after I've been streaming my friend hear himself still when he talks, what setting is it I need to change to revert that? Oo
EDIT; Nvm I had Stereo Mix on in both windows and realtek
I am having issues with the Stereo Mix part of this setup. I can get the video to stream, but the audio will not go through. I watched the youtube video and it just told me to update the driver.
This is where my problem comes in. I do not know who the manufacturer of my sound card is. The sound card is an on board card.
When I goto device manager, it is just called "High Definition Audio Device" and when I go into the properties, the driver provider is Microsoft. The driver date is 7/13/2009 so I know it is out of date.
Any ideas on how to find out what driver/manufacturer I should be trying to download?
EDIT 1:
Found my motherboard driver and the audio drivers that come with it. Does anyone know how to find out if EVGA 730i montherboard onboard sound card has audio mixing capability?
Hey guys, can someone help me. I only get sound in my stream if i set standard device for audio output my Speakers. The problem is that my microphone is connected via usb and not with input of soundcard. This seems to be a problem because the soundmixer dont take care of my mircophone. Any tips?
perhaps someone can help me. ive gone through countless forums on how to enable fme to pick up starcraft 2 soiunds as well as recording my voice. the voice recording isnt a problem, but it appears i just cant get fme to pick up any other sounds outside from what my mic picks up. im using the stereo mix and its set up. fme is set to capture audio through the mixer. am i suppose to unplug the audio output for my headset or what? i cant seem to get this working
Is there any way to broadcast game sounds, outside music (pandora), and your own voice, while only listening to game sounds yourself? I have both speakers and a usb headset. Thanks.
On June 22 2011 03:51 Andr3 wrote: When I click on that link it redirects me to some fake website where it shows some scanner saying that my PC is infected..
So is something wrong with my PC or is that link bad ? :x
Sorry to bump this, but I still use it frequently, its a very good guide.
I recently started using FME as it runs smoother for me and am using the MultiCam Studio as well.
I was wondering if it is possible to make MultiCam Studio smaller without messing up the resolution? 1920x1080 is the only resolution that fills the screen perfectly, but its also 1920x1080 on my monitor, so I can't actually see the controls on the bottom. I can make it smaller, add/edit something, then make it big again, but is there a way to make it smaller (like on Xsplit) but keep the resolution?
i cant find the manage show tab on ustream i look it up on google and it said it was on the left side but i wen i looked for it i still couldnt find it help plz
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ratios, not 16:10. Just bear that in mind when choosing which resolution to use.
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