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Huko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 14:47:25
October 15 2010 09:51 GMT
#261
On October 15 2010 15:42 countolaf wrote:
I initially thought the quality when you're moving it around is pretty good until I viewed it in full screen.

Choppy broadcast can be attributed to many factors like frame rate and stuff. Whats the spec of your computer anyway?

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 12:30 Huko wrote:
Hey, basically new to streaming, finally got me a computer that can do it. I am using SCFH (happens on VHCap also). My quality is pretty good (even though I got no clue how to get better quality, just fooling around. My problem is, when stuff moves, it gets really choppy, but when it sits still it gets clear!
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10208834

That is the problem I am having. I read the OP, not much more though. If anyone could let me know why this is happening and how to fix it, that would be awesome! Oh also, what do I change for better quality? Don't know what my computer can handle, so I wanna see what I can go to.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/559/settingsn.png
(too wide for image)
Speedtest
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Thanks a bunch for help

Also to add, this is a recording of a game (ignore the actual poor gameplay)
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10216072

Some other problems, don't know if they hapepned while streaming or not. The blurry as I move screen annoys me the most though.
polysciguy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States488 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 21:26:50
October 15 2010 21:23 GMT
#262
nvm
glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever---napoleon
Huko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States324 Posts
October 16 2010 03:42 GMT
#263
Anyone have any idea why the video is choppy?
Helluva
Profile Joined September 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 13:26:17
October 18 2010 13:25 GMT
#264
I'm using Procaster on LiveStream, and my stream was working fine until I keep getting this error.
Has anyone ever ran into this or know how to fix this?
[image loading]
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19027 Posts
October 18 2010 15:32 GMT
#265
Asking for Livestream product support in a ustream thread?

Doubt you'll get much help. You're better off posting on the Livestream forums.
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Helluva
Profile Joined September 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 16:18:56
October 18 2010 16:18 GMT
#266
On October 19 2010 00:32 tofucake wrote:
Asking for Livestream product support in a ustream thread?

Doubt you'll get much help. You're better off posting on the Livestream forums.

I'm aware of that, but since I couldn't find a "Livestream support thread" and figured some Livestreamers went from Livestream to Ustream/Justin.tv or vice-versa, I'm sure someone at least came across this issue at some point.

By all means, if you have the link to the Livestream support thread, please post.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19027 Posts
October 18 2010 16:36 GMT
#267
You could have just made a new thread.

Anyway, Livestream is notorious for having these kinds of problems. I'm not saying you should dump Livestream for ustream+ Show Spoiler +
do it
or anything, but Livestream's forums are probably a better place to get help for their products.
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yourwhiteshadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 18:26:10
October 18 2010 18:23 GMT
#268
On September 24 2010 06:41 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 02:48 yourwhiteshadow wrote:
On September 14 2010 05:38 tofucake wrote:
@Ktzero3: Lowering keyframe rate should lower processing requirements, and make your stream a bit smoother (but lower quality if you jump around a lot). Also, you can boost your stream quality by sticking SC1 on 1 core and FMLE on 3. Video processing/encoding is one of the very few things that is a greedy multitasker. Also, why did you underclock your RAM? Also, you can use a program called Virtual Audio Cable to pump a bunch of different sources into a single output line and have FMLE use that as audio.


On September 14 2010 03:42 dotFX wrote:
Ok, I have a Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio card and It doesn't support stereo mixer in the recording devices, and only has it's own mixer that is not recognized by FMLE. Does anyone know a work arround?

What OS are you on?


lowering keyframe rate WILL make the stream smoother, but it increases processor load as its an encoded frame with as little loss in quality as possible. higher quality = more proc power needed. increasing keyframe rate, then increases proc power.

I don't even........what? Lowering the rate means increasing the time between keyframes. How does processor load increase when you lower keyframe rate and raise when you increase keyframe rate? Please make sense.


lowering keyframe interval from 10s to 5s increases the amount of keyframes. you will have a keyframe every 10s compare to every 5s. if you have a keyframe every 5s, that is MORE often than every 10s. simple math. let me reiterate that lowering keyframe rate WILL make the stream smoother, but only if your set up can handle it (it will increase processor load). also, if it still doesn't make sense, then think of keyframe interval as the interval (time difference, x-y=z) between two frames. alas, i digress and since you can't take the time to wikipedia anything:

as someone already mentioned, a keyframe is a no delta frame with no loss or compression. differences in between keyframes are used to fill in the keyframes and allow for animation and moving of objects. delivering just the differences in between keyframes allows for compression and decrease in bandwidth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_frame
'Video compression' section:
"...For example, a key frame may be output once for each 10 seconds of video, even though the video image does not change enough visually to warrant the automatic creation of the key frame. That would allow seeking within the video stream at a minimum of 10 second intervals. The down side is that the resulting video stream will be larger in size because many key frames were added when they were not necessary for the visual representation of the frame..."

if it still doesn't make sense, then i would suggest playing around with with flash or after effects (it might help you understand). maybe even start reading up on video compression codecs like h264/x264 (which FMLE uses).
Technical Director, Si Media Production, simediapro.com
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19027 Posts
October 18 2010 19:14 GMT
#269
Once again, clash of English with English.

I meant lowering the keyframe rate as in lower the number of keyframes, so more time between them, not lowering the time between them resulting in more keyframes.


And I know all about video encoding ty.
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yourwhiteshadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States442 Posts
October 18 2010 20:22 GMT
#270
On October 19 2010 04:14 tofucake wrote:
Once again, clash of English with English.

I meant lowering the keyframe rate as in lower the number of keyframes, so more time between them, not lowering the time between them resulting in more keyframes.


And I know all about video encoding ty.


i knew you knew what i was trying to say. i think you just wanted to...*won't complete sentence*
Technical Director, Si Media Production, simediapro.com
itzMorglum
Profile Joined October 2004
Poland171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 17:05:52
October 20 2010 17:05 GMT
#271
I'm getting frustrated since I can't make ustream work smoothly - all I'm getting are lags, spikes and more lags. Here are my specs:

AMD Athlon II x2 250 processor 3GHz with 4MB RAM and NVIDIA GFORCE 9800 GT, win 7 64bit. SC2 set to medium and speed test shows this:

[image loading]


I have more dl, but it was used by other computer when I was taking test. So can someone tell me what would be optimal streaming resolution/fps, etc. settings to make it work smoothly?

My default resolution is 1360x768 but I'm lowering it for streaming purposes to 1280x702. Am I able to achieve anything better then what I'm getting atm @ livestream with their upl cap?

Many thanks for any help in advance
God created angels to steal loneliness from males, but I have found my angel and she stole my loneliness 4ever
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19027 Posts
October 20 2010 17:20 GMT
#272
Drop your output resolution by..well a lot. Your CPU isn't well suited for streaming+playing. In fact, it's pretty bad for streaming in general.
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BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
October 20 2010 19:04 GMT
#273
I have problem using FME 2.5 cmd version. The program runs but ustream doesn't hook it.
Huko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 19:17:20
October 20 2010 19:05 GMT
#274
Edit: I figured out to get stereo mix and microphone but I don't really want to hear myself, anyway to make it so I can't hear myself but others can?
Detectable
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway58 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 22:03:28
October 20 2010 21:59 GMT
#275
Looking for some help myself. I just bought a beast of a computer. i7 Quad, 3.2 GHz, 8GB memory and a GeForce GTX480.

I want to try steam, but I have some serious issues where the stream will just be stuck with 1-3 fps.
Tried lowering bitrate to 100, and resolution to something ridiculous like 100x62, but it still just completely lags out.
Now I am really clueless as to why this happens. Speedtest showed 12MB download, 2.4 MB upload with a ping of 27, so really should not be an issue. I can play the game with 90+ fps while streaming, but the problem seems to be somewhere else.
Tried to play around with every combination of processor affinity without any luck aswell.
All firewallsettings have been looked through, everything seems like it should be perfect.
I followed the guide at the start of this thread, and have done exactly like it said, and played around with every setting I could find without result.

Anyone have a clue what might be the problem?
"Oh it's easy, just lose your whole fucking base!" -Day[9]
countolaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Georgia38 Posts
October 21 2010 06:49 GMT
#276
That's a pretty good computer spec!

Btw, what software are you using again?

On October 21 2010 06:59 Detectable wrote:
Looking for some help myself. I just bought a beast of a computer. i7 Quad, 3.2 GHz, 8GB memory and a GeForce GTX480.

I want to try steam, but I have some serious issues where the stream will just be stuck with 1-3 fps.
Tried lowering bitrate to 100, and resolution to something ridiculous like 100x62, but it still just completely lags out.
Now I am really clueless as to why this happens. Speedtest showed 12MB download, 2.4 MB upload with a ping of 27, so really should not be an issue. I can play the game with 90+ fps while streaming, but the problem seems to be somewhere else.
Tried to play around with every combination of processor affinity without any luck aswell.
All firewallsettings have been looked through, everything seems like it should be perfect.
I followed the guide at the start of this thread, and have done exactly like it said, and played around with every setting I could find without result.

Anyone have a clue what might be the problem?

Just your random person..
Detectable
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway58 Posts
October 21 2010 13:09 GMT
#277
Using VHSC and the Adobe Live Encoder, and have set them up as in the guide. So no idea really what can be wrong, tried to tweak any setting.
"Oh it's easy, just lose your whole fucking base!" -Day[9]
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
October 23 2010 00:00 GMT
#278
Figured I'd post this because it seems like it could be a common problem:

If you are using a Realtek audio solution, the latest Realtek audio drivers have Stereo Mix disabled, as in impossible to enable, by default. There is no way to get around it. I googled this endlessly and people kept saying to "just right click and show disabled devices" and I wanted to punch a baby every time I read it because Stereo Mix was just nonexistent.

The reason Stereo Mix is nonexistent is because of some shenanigans involving the RIAA pressuring audio companies to stop including this feature so that people can't record DRM-free mp3s from DRMed mp3s.

The fix is to google "Realtek Vista_Win7_R237" and find that driver package. That was the last driver package to support Stereo Mix for Realtek, and works beautifully as I just installed it.
brokenSC
Profile Joined November 2009
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 17:03:33
October 24 2010 17:02 GMT
#279
On October 23 2010 09:00 seiferoth10 wrote:
Figured I'd post this because it seems like it could be a common problem:

If you are using a Realtek audio solution, the latest Realtek audio drivers have Stereo Mix disabled, as in impossible to enable, by default. There is no way to get around it. I googled this endlessly and people kept saying to "just right click and show disabled devices" and I wanted to punch a baby every time I read it because Stereo Mix was just nonexistent.

The reason Stereo Mix is nonexistent is because of some shenanigans involving the RIAA pressuring audio companies to stop including this feature so that people can't record DRM-free mp3s from DRMed mp3s.

The fix is to google "Realtek Vista_Win7_R237" and find that driver package. That was the last driver package to support Stereo Mix for Realtek, and works beautifully as I just installed it.


I ran into this problem. I'm running win 7 with the latest Realtek HD audio driver. After an hour of screwing around all i had to do was go to recording devices and right click the empty space and click show disabled devices and you could enable it from there. Still wanna punch a baby? It really did work for me though :3

My problem is, I've installed Adobe Flash Media Streaming Server 4 and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.1 multiple times. In the folder i don't see any file to run the program.
yourwhiteshadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States442 Posts
October 24 2010 18:30 GMT
#280
On October 25 2010 02:02 brokenSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 09:00 seiferoth10 wrote:
Figured I'd post this because it seems like it could be a common problem:

If you are using a Realtek audio solution, the latest Realtek audio drivers have Stereo Mix disabled, as in impossible to enable, by default. There is no way to get around it. I googled this endlessly and people kept saying to "just right click and show disabled devices" and I wanted to punch a baby every time I read it because Stereo Mix was just nonexistent.

The reason Stereo Mix is nonexistent is because of some shenanigans involving the RIAA pressuring audio companies to stop including this feature so that people can't record DRM-free mp3s from DRMed mp3s.

The fix is to google "Realtek Vista_Win7_R237" and find that driver package. That was the last driver package to support Stereo Mix for Realtek, and works beautifully as I just installed it.


I ran into this problem. I'm running win 7 with the latest Realtek HD audio driver. After an hour of screwing around all i had to do was go to recording devices and right click the empty space and click show disabled devices and you could enable it from there. Still wanna punch a baby? It really did work for me though :3

My problem is, I've installed Adobe Flash Media Streaming Server 4 and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.1 multiple times. In the folder i don't see any file to run the program.


what do you need the streaming server for? are you trying to create your own stream on your own website? FMLE 3.1 comes with a GUI and a cmd version.
Technical Director, Si Media Production, simediapro.com
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