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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 08:13:38
July 18 2010 08:13 GMT
#1101
On July 18 2010 04:44 FragKrag wrote:
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/starcraft_ii_wings_of_liberty_beta_performance,4.html

No, it doesn't. This was also before optimizations -_-


Hmm I don't really trust this review because I found earlier another one similar and the numbers were much worse on every card.

And there minimum fps on hd4890 on 1920x1200 is 61 ! That's amazing cause for me it sometimes drops even to ~20 fps at 1280x1024.

They are using very strong CPU there, so maybe overclocking my i920 2.67 would help a lot?
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
July 19 2010 01:45 GMT
#1102
Hey I have some questions for you experts.

I currently have,

Phenom II X4 955 (3.2GHz)
4GB DDR3
500 GB Hard
Nvidia GeForce9800 GT 1GB (Evga)

1. Will this run smoothly in higest resoultion with ultra settings?

2. Would it be worth it to upgrade to better graphic cards (such as Radeon5830..budget 250 max..)?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 01:59:05
July 19 2010 01:57 GMT
#1103
On July 18 2010 17:13 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 04:44 FragKrag wrote:
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/starcraft_ii_wings_of_liberty_beta_performance,4.html

No, it doesn't. This was also before optimizations -_-


Hmm I don't really trust this review because I found earlier another one similar and the numbers were much worse on every card.

And there minimum fps on hd4890 on 1920x1200 is 61 ! That's amazing cause for me it sometimes drops even to ~20 fps at 1280x1024.

They are using very strong CPU there, so maybe overclocking my i920 2.67 would help a lot?


They definitely used different testing scenarios to get their numbers. I can't attest to their accuracy myself since I definitely do not see those framerates even with my overclock GTS 250 and overclocked i7 860 to 3.7GHz. Keep in mind that these benches came out before 3v3/4v4 and such.

Sayer: No. It will not run at highest settings and highest resolution very well. If you want to see good FPS at high resolution for under $250 I would suggest the GTX 460 1GB. The HD 5830 at the moment isn't the best buy.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
July 19 2010 02:15 GMT
#1104
FragKrag: Thx Bud. I was considering either 460s or 5830s..

Once the game comes out I will try my current system in different settings and If I think they are more than acceptable, I would prolly upgrade in later times..

Thx regardless~
Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 01:47:54
July 20 2010 01:47 GMT
#1105
The Beast i am getting next weak:

CPU AMD Phenom II X4 Quad-Core 955 AM3 BOX Black
HDD 3.5" 1TB Hitachi SATA-2 32MB HDS721010CLA332
MB Sapphire AMD 790GX AM3 DDR3 1333 Hybrid+CF
DIMM 4GB DDR3 1333MHz Kingston ECC
Sapphire ATI PCX HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 HDMI/2DVI /DP
ATX Midi Tower Case Hantol 9803 500W CE
Keyboard A4 KL-7MU Headphone X-slim + USB port
Cooler GlacialTech Igloo 7700 all AMD 140W

This thread alone has been very helpful in determining my PC configuration. Cheers and thanks.
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 02:00:45
July 20 2010 01:54 GMT
#1106
many of you will find this very interesting

http://guru3d.com/article/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-gpu-graphics-performance/5
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/34344-starcraft-ii-gpu-performance-comparison.html

nom nom
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
July 20 2010 11:21 GMT
#1107
Can someone tell me what kind of PSU i need for my (2 posts up) configuration?
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
July 20 2010 11:59 GMT
#1108
Well, I decided not to risk anything with my new setup and Im going for this after some concideration:

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Six-Core
ATI Sapphire HD5870 1GB
8GB DDR3-1600MHz Kingston HyperX
ASUS M4A79T DELUXE

I hope, this rig will run SC2 just fine under any in-game settings..
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
July 20 2010 14:23 GMT
#1109
I have a question. Recently I've been running the game in fullscreen windowed mode and I seem to be getting better FPS than I do when I'm just running fullscreen. Doesn't this sound wrong to you? Shouldn't the fullscreen mode have better FPS?
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 20 2010 14:40 GMT
#1110
As soon as I get home I have to add a question to this thread. I wanted to make a blog about my future computer. I found this nice looking computer on Newegg with an i7 processor but the graphics card is not something I want. I might make the blog and then link it to this thread to help out...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Azile
Profile Joined March 2010
United States339 Posts
July 20 2010 15:03 GMT
#1111
On July 20 2010 20:59 Everlong wrote:
Well, I decided not to risk anything with my new setup and Im going for this after some concideration:

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Six-Core
ATI Sapphire HD5870 1GB
8GB DDR3-1600MHz Kingston HyperX
ASUS M4A79T DELUXE

I hope, this rig will run SC2 just fine under any in-game settings..


I hope you're being sarcastic.
Thaddaeus
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany107 Posts
July 20 2010 15:14 GMT
#1112
Nice OP!
Was very helpfull for a couple of my friends.

I have one question about SSDs here.
My Rig is pretty good (I7, 5870 8Gig Ram etc.) and i have a SSD. However right now the Game is installed on some Velo-Raptor HDD. Though having a high end pc, loading times of maps are sometimes pretty long (as the gaming eve goes on)
Does anyone know if especially the Map loading time can be influenced by a better HD (SSD) or is it purely RAM and the bad coding of the SW (load times increase by playtime somehow) in this matter?

THX
im fine :)
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
July 20 2010 17:20 GMT
#1113
On July 20 2010 20:21 Kolossus wrote:
Can someone tell me what kind of PSU i need for my (2 posts up) configuration?


500W or so should be sufficient


On July 21 2010 00:14 Thaddaeus wrote:
Nice OP!
Was very helpfull for a couple of my friends.

I have one question about SSDs here.
My Rig is pretty good (I7, 5870 8Gig Ram etc.) and i have a SSD. However right now the Game is installed on some Velo-Raptor HDD. Though having a high end pc, loading times of maps are sometimes pretty long (as the gaming eve goes on)
Does anyone know if especially the Map loading time can be influenced by a better HD (SSD) or is it purely RAM and the bad coding of the SW (load times increase by playtime somehow) in this matter?

THX


I believe it does depend on the hard drive speed. There have been issues where two players with SSDs loaded too quickly and missed each other's races. Keep in mind that Velociraptors aren't that different from traditional 3.5" HDDs. They still rely on mechanical parts so it won't be as fast as the SSD.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
slythegreat
Profile Joined July 2010
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 05:46:24
July 22 2010 05:42 GMT
#1114
Hello everyone, first time posting on this forum. Great thread, btw.

Desiring to purchase a decent gaming PC on a budget but not knowing how to build one myself, I managed to find a refurbed HP comp for just $800 that seems to work great so far.

Specs:
i7-920 processor currently at stock speed
9 gigs of DDR3 ram (on Windows 7 64-bit, of course)
7200 RPM hard drive
GTX 260 (192 core edition unfortunately, though oddly it has 1.8 gigs of Vram)
Edit: Forgot to mention I'm running on a 1920x1080 resolution

I have not played the SC2 beta but plan to purchase SC2 at release. Obviously the graphics card is the only real concern here. Can it:

Run Ultra in 4v4 or complex UMS maps?
Run Ultra in most other situations?
If so, at what framerates, and how great is the difference between 30 and 60?
If not, what must be turned down?

Thanks very much for your help.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
July 22 2010 05:49 GMT
#1115
At that resolution, I do not think you will be able to handle it.

30 vs 60 isn't as noticeable in SC2 actually. I find 40-50 FPS to be very playable and very smooth. I don't think the GTX 260 can handle the full 4v4 battles at 1920x1080 though.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
slythegreat
Profile Joined July 2010
6 Posts
July 22 2010 05:54 GMT
#1116
Hmm, that's a little disappointing, though I guess 1600 food battles aren't exactly common.

I assume that it could probably run Ultra in more common situations though, and that it could do crazy situations on high. Would this be correct? Also, is there anything I can do to improve my card's performance (besides overclocking, I certainly do not have the cooling or power supply to even consider it)?

Thanks again for your help.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 05:58:01
July 22 2010 05:56 GMT
#1117
On July 20 2010 20:59 Everlong wrote:
Well, I decided not to risk anything with my new setup and Im going for this after some concideration:

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Six-Core
ATI Sapphire HD5870 1GB
8GB DDR3-1600MHz Kingston HyperX
ASUS M4A79T DELUXE

I hope, this rig will run SC2 just fine under any in-game settings..


You want higher IPC, not more cores. With that in mind, you would benefit more from running any of the Nehalem-derivatives, either Bloomfield or Lynnfield, depending on your budget. As it is, even with 6-cores, AMD struggles to match the performance of Intel's current quad-cores, and that is even before HT. Bulldozer isn't even coming out until 2H 2011, so yeah, I wouldn't even consider AMD until that time.

Also, you don't need more than a 460 1GB, unless you're running above 19x12, where that kind of GPU power will be needed.
With no power comes no responsibility?
leeznon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States255 Posts
July 22 2010 06:20 GMT
#1118
I built a new computer just for SC2, no joke.

Before, I only had a laptop that couldn't run anything & decided to build a nice comp for StarCraft :D
Zerg=Skill
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
July 22 2010 08:32 GMT
#1119
slythegreat: I would expect that it would be able to

mav451: Bulldozer slated for 1H 2011 apparently!

As far as SC2 goes, i5/i7 quads are still the way to goo for the best performance. When it comes to truly multi-threaded performance though, the Phenom II X6 speeds way ahead.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
July 22 2010 08:38 GMT
#1120
SC2 isn't gonna perform better past 3 cores. Intel has a very nice architecture and amd isn't too bad either.
There's no S in KT. :P
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