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s0ftHanDs
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada10 Posts
July 27 2010 22:20 GMT
#1141
Using the help I was given above I went to ncix.com and put together the following. I'm hoping its good enough that its future proofed. Can someone look it over and give an opinion. I read reviews on the GTX 460 and it seems to be the best value for $. Let me know what you think.

Again, my goal is to run SC2 at its best, and also use this as a media center pc - Bluray eventually, HD/1080p video etc.

Everything came to $930.00 including HST (shipping wasn't quoted yet) I would expect I am in and around $1k for this build all in. I am using windows xp right now and will try to continue using it if i can, if not I will grab Win 7.

G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit
Usually ships in 2-3 business days.
In Stock 42745 $99.99 $99.99

Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio
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Limit to 2 per customer.
In Stock 29812 $49.99 $49.99

Intel Core i7 930 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 2.8GHZ 8MB L3 Cache 130W 45NM Retail Box
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In Stock 50913 $294.99 $294.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive OEM *3YR MFR Warranty*
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In Stock 36050 $59.99 $59.99

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 Fermi 715MHZ 1GB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E DX11 Video Card
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In Stock 54506 $250.17 $250.17

Add NCIX EXTENDED SERVICE PLAN What's this?

BFG GS-550 550W Power Supply ATX V2.2 EPS12V 24PIN 6PIN & 8PIN PCI-E 140MM Fan 1 Year NCIX Warranty
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mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
July 28 2010 00:12 GMT
#1142
I think you forgot the mobo =p

Do you really plan on using multi-GPUs or need HT? Otherwise the 750/P55 combo would work better:
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=47705&vpn=i5-750 & P55A-UD3&manufacture=Bundle Deals

i5 750 + P55A-UD3 mobo - $365 for both.
With no power comes no responsibility?
s0ftHanDs
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada10 Posts
July 28 2010 02:08 GMT
#1143
LOL Thanks.

With that combo can I do what I intended?

ie: SC2 on Ultra and using the pc as a media center for 1080p video?

I would never need more then one video card, and I am not sure what the benefits of HT(hyperthreading?) are.

For what I want to do, is that necessary?
Torture
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 02:58:50
July 28 2010 02:57 GMT
#1144
I'm looking for something cheap. Found a $300 off coupon for an inspiron 580 at dell but it expires today so fast responses would be appreciated!

The major concern seems to be the Radeon 5450, not a powerful gaming card but would it run SC2 on medium decently? I'm on a pretty tight budget. According to one of the links in the OP the CPU is generally the bottleneck on medium graphics.

Raedeon 5450 512MB was ranked 109th on the rankings thread (no mention of the 1GB model) which is pretty rough, but I really just need a cheap computer that can run the game somewhat decently.

Here's the specs: $700cdn for..
Intel® Core™ i5-750 processor(8MB Cache, 2.66GHz)
8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 2 DIMMs
1TB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB DDR3

Anybody have experience with the 5450? Will it run the game on medium graphics? I can live without going up to high or ultra until I can afford to swap it out for a better card.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 05:08:27
July 28 2010 05:07 GMT
#1145
The 5450 does not bench well at all. True, dropping to medium graphics will help, but looking at the graphs myself I am really not convinced. It is struggling to compete with cards from the value-segment of 2008. The other issue is that I really have doubts about off-the-shelf boxes having sufficient circulation for more serious GPUs.

*just took a look at the case for the Inspiron 580 and that confirmed my initial suspicions. Looks to be poor circulation, which is not good when you are trying to upgrade to better GPUs.

links to benches:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,704313/Radeon-HD-5450-Cedar-review-The-ideal-HTPC-DirectX-11-graphics-card/Reviews/?page=3
With no power comes no responsibility?
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
July 28 2010 11:34 GMT
#1146
What do you recommend for an i7 930 Core? I was thinking something not too expensive, but can't really decide. I am interested in overclocking 24/7 ...
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 28 2010 17:42 GMT
#1147
Art.Feel what do you mean by recommend? Recommend a GPU? A motherboard? Heatsink?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
July 28 2010 18:49 GMT
#1148
On July 29 2010 02:42 FragKrag wrote:
Art.Feel what do you mean by recommend? Recommend a GPU? A motherboard? Heatsink?


Ah really sorry, sorry! I forgot to write that I was thinking of a motherboard
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 28 2010 19:27 GMT
#1149
Hrm, I would go for a Gigabyte X58 UD3R since it's a cheaper motherboard around ~$200 (not sure Euro), or an ASUS P6X58D-E which is going to be a bit more expensive (around $230?)
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
July 28 2010 19:54 GMT
#1150
On July 29 2010 04:27 FragKrag wrote:
Hrm, I would go for a Gigabyte X58 UD3R since it's a cheaper motherboard around ~$200 (not sure Euro), or an ASUS P6X58D-E which is going to be a bit more expensive (around $230?)

Was thinking the same, I also read at the reviews that GB x58 UD3R offers better cloaking capabilites
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 12:40:43
July 28 2010 20:06 GMT
#1151
A few questions, I hope this is the right thread.

The questions has been answered.

Thanks for the help, Demise.







Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
deotrip
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany119 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 15:37:01
July 30 2010 15:36 GMT
#1152
hello!

i want to upgrade my current system so i can play sc2 in high quality. i have a hp xw4300 workstation with the following stoneage specs:

pentium4 ht 3,40 ghz
4 gb ddr2 ram
radeon hd 4650
hp motherboard 775 socket

i can play 1v1 with lowest settings with almost zero hiccups. but i do get hiccups in 2v2, single player, etc.

i was thinking of getting a intel pentium e6300 for 66€ or a core 2 duo e7600 for 113€. what do you guys recommend? i would also need a fitting motherboard because my current motherboard is quite old and wont support newer cpus. what are good ones that dont cost a fortune? and what about the graphics card? should i get a new one? not sure if just a cpu upgrade would be enough.

thanks for any recommendations!
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
July 31 2010 21:00 GMT
#1153
I wouldn't waste any money on last-gen hardware (anything Core2, or Phenom1's). I also would avoid cache-castrated models, which are a bit too popular with the AMD chips (Athlon II X4's and similar). The absolute minimum I would recommend is the Phenom II X3 720, but otherwise, get a i5 750 or better.

I don't know the Germany hardware retailers, so hopefully the prices aren't too different overseas.
With no power comes no responsibility?
pat05005
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1 Post
July 31 2010 22:04 GMT
#1154
Anyone, please tell me what should be upgraded first and what it should be upgraded with. Here are my specs. I don't want to spend more than $100.

Processor: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz
Memory: 4.00 GB
System type: 64-bit operating system
Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
I hustle for what I want.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
August 01 2010 04:05 GMT
#1155
what's your gpu? can't really give a recommendation without knowing that
Miles Pedrone
Profile Joined March 2010
United States10 Posts
August 05 2010 17:40 GMT
#1156
Hey all, I'm hardcore laptop shopping and I'd love it if you could tell me how these graphics cards run.

I'll typically be looking for i5-450M or 520M with 4GB DDR3.

How do these perform?
nVidia GeForce GT 330M, 335M, 325M
ATI 5650
ATI 5470 (Probably can't cut it from what I've read)

Or, if you can name some other low-mid level graphics cards that I didn't hit on that can play SC2 on Medium I'm all ears. Thank you all in advance!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
August 05 2010 17:48 GMT
#1157
The 5650 is the best of them. the GT 330M is a bit worse than the 5650.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Miles Pedrone
Profile Joined March 2010
United States10 Posts
August 05 2010 17:59 GMT
#1158
Do you know if the 325M will be able to muscle through on Medium settings?
MaverickSC2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States20 Posts
August 05 2010 20:43 GMT
#1159
I currently have a laptop (Dell XPS m1530) and it really only allows me to play SC2 on low if I want any sort of playability 4v4 and decent fps in 1v1. I'm looking to get either a new laptop that can handle SC2 on a little higher setting or a decent desktop system since they are cheaper and more efficient.. any suggestions for best / price worthy system for this? I liked the look of the desktops they had setup at the gosucamp thing.
"The fool persuades me with his or her reasons, the wise with my own."
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 02:41:24
August 05 2010 22:53 GMT
#1160
If you read through this thread you'll see a lot of computer builds (for desktops) that have a pretty wide price range and desire for performance, most of which are geared towards SC2

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