EPTIt looks like either your computer is throttling down due to heat, or your CPU isn't enough. Though that CPU should be more than enough for SC2 :/
Have you tried new drivers? I'm not sure they would help, but it's worth a shot.
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FragKrag
United States11549 Posts
It looks like either your computer is throttling down due to heat, or your CPU isn't enough. Though that CPU should be more than enough for SC2 :/ Have you tried new drivers? I'm not sure they would help, but it's worth a shot. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
meh still problematic. hmmm | ||
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Denhez
Canada16 Posts
On August 17 2010 08:29 kNyTTyM wrote: updating drivers now. How do I find if my computer is operating outside it's normal temperature range? It's averaging 70-75c meh still problematic. hmmm Is the temperature at idle or load ?? The max temp for your cpu seems to be at 100 °C so if it is at load it's fine... otherwise it depends on a lot of things as idle temp is laptop dependant. | ||
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knyttym
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Denhez
Canada16 Posts
On August 17 2010 09:15 kNyTTyM wrote: idle. Running sc2 it gets about 80-85 Then I guess everything is ok but laptop and temperature can be a funny thing. I guess I'll let people with better knowledge than me answer this because I don't want to tell you some bs lol. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Is it normal to never reach above 30fps in a game? Even at the start of the game I'm holding steady at 30ish | ||
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FragKrag
United States11549 Posts
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Myrmidon
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On August 17 2010 12:54 FragKrag wrote: That's actually really bad. Your 9600M GT should be able to pull more frames than that. Try playing on low and see what happens I play on the absolute minimum at all times and pull those numbers. | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
BTW. Which card deals better with SC2 (fps min/avg) - Radeon 4850 or GF GTS 250 ? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11549 Posts
The GTS 250 and the HD 4850 are about the same, but SC2 shows that it tends to prefer the Nvidia counterpart. (GTX 460 > HD 5850 and such) | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
On August 18 2010 01:52 FragKrag wrote: Musli: Your friend may have VSync turned on. Find the option to turn it off. The GTS 250 and the HD 4850 are about the same, but SC2 shows that it tends to prefer the Nvidia counterpart. (GTX 460 > HD 5850 and such) Thanks. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11549 Posts
On August 17 2010 14:05 kNyTTyM wrote: Ya the 70-75 idle was just a quick glance the first time I checked. I've been watching it all day and it idles at 45ish and goes up to about 50-55 with minimal processing. The most recent testing shows about 75c while playing sc2. The 95c max was from when I turned on the turbo button (overclocks at 2.4ghz) but still I doubt that should happen regularly. I play on the absolute minimum at all times and pull those numbers. Does the problem persist after the new drivers? 45C Idle on a laptop gpu is totally fine (fine on desktops as well generally). | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
I'm building a PC (mobo, CPU, GPU & 4GB ram) for SC2 for 400$. I will play on 17" screen with 1024x768 res (max 1280x1024 but everything is so small on this res ;p). My only wish is that it works on 450W Chieftec PSU (if it's actually possible) so I don't have to buy a new one. Guys on PC forum recommended Phenom II X2 555 BE, AsRock 770 Extreme3, Asus 4850 & 2x2GB Goodram (Polish producer, said to be on par with, for ex., Geil). What do you think ? Is it optimal ? And a second question: Win 7 64 or 32-bit ? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11549 Posts
I would recommend against the AsRock 770 'Extreme'. There is nothing extreme about the 770 chipset. It doesn't support CrossFireX or any of the more 'extreme' features that the 790X or FX supports. I would also consider getting a 870 chipset motherboard instead of the 770 because it is newer and has native sata 6GB/s along with USB 3.0. While those features might not make too much sense right now, it's better to buy a motherboard with a more modern chipset because if you plan on upgrading your CPU, more modern chipsets will generally support more CPUs. As far as the HD 4850 goes, it's a fine GPU, but if you can grab a GTS 250 at the same price I'd go with the GTS 250 because it offers just about the same performance and runs cooler + uses less power. 64bit easily. 32bit is the past! | ||
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ckw
United States1018 Posts
Newegg prices in spoiler and my set-up. + Show Spoiler + LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support Item #: N82E16827106335 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy Protect Your Investment (expand for options) =$25.99 HEC 6BRBBB Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - OEM Item #: N82E16811121099 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$20.00 Instant =$39.99 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Item #: N82E16822152185 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy Protect Your Investment (expand for options) =$74.99 MSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard Item #: N82E16813130275 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy Protect Your Investment (expand for options) $10.00 Mail-in Rebate =$99.99 EVGA 01G-P3-1465-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Item #: N82E16814130555 Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy -$50.00 Instant $25.00 Mail-in Rebate Card =$229.99 OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Item #: N82E16817341022 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy Protect Your Investment (expand for options) -$20.00 Instant $15.00 Mail-in Rebate Card =$64.99 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ Item #: N82E16820231190 Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy =$82.99 AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX Item #: N82E16819103871 Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy Protect Your Investment (expand for options) =$107.99 Subtotal: $726.92 | ||
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FragKrag
United States11549 Posts
The GTX 465 has much higher temps and power consumption but it actually performs under the GTX 460 1GB in most cases! | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
On August 18 2010 03:03 FragKrag wrote: + Show Spoiler + 450W PSU with that should be fine but I would recommend against the Phenom II X2 555BE. I would go for an Athlon II X3 435 or 440 depending on what you have at the store. While it's not a quad core, trip cores do show benefits over the dual core Phenom. If you're looking to unlock though I suppose it isn't a bad decision. I would recommend against the AsRock 770 'Extreme'. There is nothing extreme about the 770 chipset. It doesn't support CrossFireX or any of the more 'extreme' features that the 790X or FX supports. I would also consider getting a 870 chipset motherboard instead of the 770 because it is newer and has native sata 6GB/s along with USB 3.0. While those features might not make too much sense right now, it's better to buy a motherboard with a more modern chipset because if you plan on upgrading your CPU, more modern chipsets will generally support more CPUs. As far as the HD 4850 goes, it's a fine GPU, but if you can grab a GTS 250 at the same price I'd go with the GTS 250 because it offers just about the same performance and runs cooler + uses less power. 64bit easily. 32bit is the past! Well, AFAIK Phenom II X2 is a better choice for SC2 since SC2 is 2-core optimized and makes good use of L3 (http://tiny.pl/h7k8g or http://tiny.pl/h7k8t), which Athlons lack and, well, there's still a v.good chance of unlocking at least one more core. As for the mobo, MSI 870A-G54 is my new favorite. And I pick Galaxy GTS 250, cuz it's only 7$ more expensive than the cheapest 4850 (Asus with Glaciator cooling) who is said to have divided opinions. Thanks again. | ||
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