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Zabestrial
Profile Joined June 2009
United States194 Posts
June 16 2009 12:18 GMT
#1
Ok so for the people who dont know what im talking about the Hybrid is a mix between the Zerg and Protoss. You learned about it in the bonus mission (in Brood war i think) now i have seen pictures of it and i have seen drawings and spoof videos

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so does anyone know if it will be in SC2? ive looked around and cant find anything!

Please help!


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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
June 16 2009 12:25 GMT
#2
Im pretty sure the plot will follow hybrids, which should be sweet fun in single player.
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
June 16 2009 12:26 GMT
#3
It would have been epic if that video was real. Also an infested protoss is bound to happen at some point (my bet is on aldaris, i dont think he's really dead.)
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-16 12:30:42
June 16 2009 12:30 GMT
#4
On June 16 2009 21:26 ghermination wrote:
It would have been epic if that video was real. Also an infested protoss is bound to happen at some point (my bet is on aldaris, i dont think he's really dead.)



uhh when was he almost dead?

he was alive when zergs final mission was going on. I don't recall that kerry killed him, just went after the UED. and killed everysingle one of them.
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plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
June 16 2009 12:32 GMT
#5
I'm pretty sure that's the entire point of the xel'naga returning in SC2 - to make the 'ultimate race' using bits from their previous experiments, and of course to socialize a bit with their superbestfriend Duran.
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 16 2009 12:37 GMT
#6
On June 16 2009 21:30 StorZerg wrote:
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On June 16 2009 21:26 ghermination wrote:
It would have been epic if that video was real. Also an infested protoss is bound to happen at some point (my bet is on aldaris, i dont think he's really dead.)



uhh when was he almost dead?


Kerrigan killed him
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 16 2009 12:38 GMT
#7
On June 16 2009 21:30 StorZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2009 21:26 ghermination wrote:
It would have been epic if that video was real. Also an infested protoss is bound to happen at some point (my bet is on aldaris, i dont think he's really dead.)



uhh when was he almost dead?

he was alive when zergs final mission was going on. I don't recall that kerry killed him, just went after the UED. and killed everysingle one of them.


No he wasn't, he was killed by Kerrigan after he betrayed Artanis and Zeratul. That was near the end of the Broodwar Protoss Campaign.
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stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
June 16 2009 12:40 GMT
#8
Hybrid units will probably be in a campaign. Would be disappointing for them not to be.
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Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
June 16 2009 13:17 GMT
#9
The return of the Xel`Naga is preety much the major plot that connects the trilogy together. As such, I would honestly be suprised if we will not see any Hybrids in the single-player.

Also, Karune said this on the matter a long time ago:

We are planning to explore the mysteries surrounding the Xel'naga for the single player campaign. In the campaign you will encounter several unique units that would not otherwise be seen in multiplayer.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-16 13:24:41
June 16 2009 13:23 GMT
#10
oo im thinking of Artanis not aldaris yeah that guy was a little punk lol
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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
June 16 2009 13:42 GMT
#11
maybe it will be a campaign only kind of thing
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
June 28 2009 17:41 GMT
#12
On June 16 2009 22:42 Trezeguet23 wrote:
maybe it will be a campaign only kind of thing


i think they'll include a 4th race in one of the expansions... it would be fair :D
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Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
June 28 2009 17:44 GMT
#13
voted yes, but not related to multiplayer
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 28 2009 17:47 GMT
#14
Im betting Duran isnt actually with the Xel naga but with a super race of Afro Americans bent on destroying the galaxy, that would be the ultimate plot twist.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
June 28 2009 19:06 GMT
#15
On June 29 2009 02:44 Motiva wrote:
voted yes, but not related to multiplayer

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Oedi
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada265 Posts
June 28 2009 20:03 GMT
#16
i'd like to see it in single player only.
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
June 28 2009 20:03 GMT
#17
"No" to multiplayer. "Yes" to campaign/UMS maps.
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
June 28 2009 20:06 GMT
#18
On June 29 2009 02:47 arb wrote:
Im betting Duran isnt actually with the Xel naga but with a super race of Afro Americans bent on scouring the galaxy for watermelon and fried chicken, that would be the ultimate plot twist.


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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
June 28 2009 20:15 GMT
#19
On June 29 2009 05:06 For_The_Swarm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:47 arb wrote:
Im betting Duran isnt actually with the Xel naga but with a super race of Afro Americans bent on scouring the galaxy for watermelon and fried chicken, that would be the ultimate plot twist.


Fixed


lol... A little racist, but funny nonetheless.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 28 2009 20:16 GMT
#20
If there are no hybrids in the campaigns, Blizzard will have to create some random seek and destroy missions or whatever. Zeratul saw the hybrid experiments in that bonus mission and he certainly is not one to ignore such a thing. Campaign would be horrible without hybrids.
So I really expect hybrids in SP.

I don't see any chances of hybrids being a playable MP race, though. That would have to happen in a separate expansion pack since Blizzard can't possibly hope to create and balance that race anytime soon.
Balancing 4 races to the expected level (comparable to SCBW) is almost impossible. I would really like to be able to choose from 4 races, but not without great balance. Blizzard probably thinks like this too (considering how they try to make the game competitive). They won't spend the time balancing the 3 races and then suddenly add in a fourth race, messing up the whole balance of the game.

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520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
June 28 2009 20:17 GMT
#21
On June 29 2009 02:41 CROrens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2009 22:42 Trezeguet23 wrote:
maybe it will be a campaign only kind of thing


i think they'll include a 4th race in one of the expansions... it would be fair :D


Adding a 4th race to the expansion is not going to happen. Blizzard is so focused on balancing the game and making it viable for e-Sports that it's inconceivable that they would turn the game on its head upside-down by adding a 4th race 2-4 years after the game is released. By adding a 4th race, you are creating 6 more matchups that have to be balanced, not counting 2v2, not to mention map dynamics.
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ERGO
Profile Joined October 2008
United States168 Posts
June 28 2009 20:18 GMT
#22
I bet the hybrids are going to be part of a downloadable bonus mission released inbetween the zerg and protoss expansions
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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
June 28 2009 20:23 GMT
#23
On June 29 2009 05:17 scintilliaSD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:41 CROrens wrote:
On June 16 2009 22:42 Trezeguet23 wrote:
maybe it will be a campaign only kind of thing


i think they'll include a 4th race in one of the expansions... it would be fair :D


Adding a 4th race to the expansion is not going to happen. Blizzard is so focused on balancing the game and making it viable for e-Sports that it's inconceivable that they would turn the game on its head upside-down by adding a 4th race 2-4 years after the game is released. By adding a 4th race, you are creating 6 more matchups that have to be balanced, not counting 2v2, not to mention map dynamics.


I think its four more matchups.
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
June 28 2009 20:34 GMT
#24
As probably said in the thread, expect it to be mentioned in the campaign alot but dont expect a new race to be added. At best maybe a single player campaign line(a few missions) with a "hybrid" race of a bunch of special units.
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astb
Profile Joined February 2008
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 20:40:00
June 28 2009 20:37 GMT
#25
that video is from an old mod for C&C generals
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Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 20:53:00
June 28 2009 20:49 GMT
#26
Ya - i'm sure there will be the Hybrid units in SC2, like someone said that blizz said themselves - but only in single player, obviously.
Adding the hybrid and any of it's special actions to multiplayer would create unfairness or create more of a "ums feel" to the multiplayer competitive dimension - like if u gotta sacrifice 2 zeals, 2 probes and a pylon to warp in a hybrid.

Besides, the Hybrid prolly isn't going to be the emergeance of another race, just 1-2 units if that, prolly just 1 particular unit, like zeal/hydra hybrid etc. Like someone stated, it'll prolly be more of a 'seek and destroy' mission, trying to kill the hybrids before they multiply too much.

I mean, Kerrigan and Duran were hybrids of Terran/Zerg.. They didn't spawn another race.

I think another interesting dilemma for SC2 will be the arrival or return of the Xel'NaGa and seeing what they do with current situations.
Keep in mind, they're pretty weak. They're kinda like scientists, rather than warriors. From reading the race-history of the Protoss, when the Xel'Naga left, they felt betrayed and started destroying/attacking the xel'naga for abandoning them. So apparently they don't have some great "nuke" weapon they can use to fight off Protoss/Zerg or even Terran.. Although, who knows, maybe Blizz will expand their technology, making it seem like they've been away for generations developing new weapons and tactics.

p.s.
xel'naga wouldn't regard this hybrid as a "perfect race", like Zeratul mentioned after discovering the hybrid, it's an abomination. The xel'naga referred to the Zerg as being their most perfect creation, as read from the history of the Zerg. For some really F'd up reason, they thought the Protoss was a failed experiment, which is why they left. I couldn't imagine.. A race with such technology, such power and pride to defend their territory/homeland.. and they were a mistake compared to a disease like, insect-like race that just wants nothing but to expand, multiply and consume everything around it, almost absorbing it into it's being..

p.p.s.
Race history's can be found @
http://sclegacy.com/feature/8-scencyclopedia/275-race-histories
they're good reads for fans of the story line.

gL
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Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
June 28 2009 23:06 GMT
#27
On June 29 2009 05:49 Sosha wrote:
I mean, Kerrigan and Duran were hybrids of Terran/Zerg.. They didn't spawn another race.


Actually, nobody (except Blizzard ) really knows what Duran is. Humans do not live for several millenia, nor can they resist infestation without any consenquences. As such, nobody really knows what he is.
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IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
June 28 2009 23:29 GMT
#28
Would love to see hybrids but I think its really hard to make balanced game with 3 races, let alone with 4.
Forever Vulture.. :(
ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
June 28 2009 23:37 GMT
#29
On June 29 2009 05:15 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 05:06 For_The_Swarm wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:47 arb wrote:
Im betting Duran isnt actually with the Xel naga but with a super race of Afro Americans bent on scouring the galaxy for watermelon and fried chicken, that would be the ultimate plot twist.


Fixed


lol... A little racist, but funny nonetheless.


Stereotypes ftw!
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Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
June 28 2009 23:47 GMT
#30
WHEN I FIRST READ THIS THREAD TITLE, I THOUGHT THEY WERE SUGGESTING A 4TH RACE SIMILAR TO THE UNDEAD RACE IN WC3 (A MIX OF PROTOSS AND ZERG)
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Zabestrial
Profile Joined June 2009
United States194 Posts
June 29 2009 02:01 GMT
#31
oh sry to get ur hopes up
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dcttr66
Profile Joined October 2003
United States555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 02:12:54
June 29 2009 02:02 GMT
#32
On June 16 2009 21:30 StorZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2009 21:26 ghermination wrote:
It would have been epic if that video was real. Also an infested protoss is bound to happen at some point (my bet is on aldaris, i dont think he's really dead.)



uhh when was he almost dead?

he was alive when zergs final mission was going on. I don't recall that kerry killed him, just went after the UED. and killed everysingle one of them.

i think you're confusing artanis and aldaris+ Show Spoiler +
, aldaris is the one of whom the protoss said. we have a friend to kill. may adun forgive us. and then aldaris talks about how kerrigan is evil and they are talking to him and kerrigan comes along and kills him off while he's still blabbering. that's kindof what happens. the protoss get indignant at kerrigan and tell her off, telling her to get lost or whatever, saying it was non of her business and she's like, ok, whatever...i did what i came here to do, cya later, boys.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
June 29 2009 04:18 GMT
#33
I thought it was already officially confirmed there will be hybrids like a year ago?
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
June 29 2009 04:43 GMT
#34
Im fairly certain that the hybrid race will play a largish role in sc2... As far as I've guessed, duran is part of the xel'naga (judging by the way he talked in that sc1 mission anyway, from what i remember, he first acts like a terran, then you find out he's 'infested' and actually working for kerrigan, but then he completely abandoneds her and when zeratul runs into him he's all "i work for a greater power from ages ago and i'm all badass and kerrigan doesnt know how awesome i'm being right now") and they are seeking to, in some way, make hybrids of the protoss and zerg... Also, the fact that kerrigan hasnt being doing crap for the however many years between sc1 and sc2 is kinda confusing, maybe she's onto duran as well?
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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
June 29 2009 04:44 GMT
#35
WC3 was balanced with 4 races wasn't it? Or did pros gravitate towards 1 or 2? I don't really watch pro WC3, and I can only recall seeing Orc and Night Elf...
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 29 2009 04:46 GMT
#36
On June 29 2009 13:44 eMbrace wrote:
WC3 was balanced with 4 races wasn't it? Or did pros gravitate towards 1 or 2? I don't really watch pro WC3, and I can only recall seeing Orc and Night Elf...

they're still putting out balance patches, seven years after its release. Granted, there's quite a bit more factors to deal with in WC3 than SC, so that's probably why it's much harder to get "perfect" balance
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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
June 30 2009 01:03 GMT
#37
Yes but only in single player or custom maps.
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