Ive tried to search online, and honestly seems a bit of a black box.
Any ideas ?
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CerebrateHector
53 Posts
Ive tried to search online, and honestly seems a bit of a black box. Any ideas ? | ||
dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
The community council is not made up by average joes who don t know anything about the game that they are playing (or in many cases) mostly watch | ||
Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
The Community Council involves current SC2 pros, former SC2 pros & selected SC2 streamers. I don't know if anyone outside of those circles that is involved with game balance & patches. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15914 Posts
On January 08 2024 00:19 CerebrateHector wrote: how can i write feedback to them ? Here | ||
CerebrateHector
53 Posts
The community council is not made up by average joes who don t know anything about the game that they are playing (or in many cases) mostly watch This is such a fallacy though, you can be pretty good at balance or strategy, whilst not being a good player yourself. Think of football coaches, some are not/were not player themselvs. | ||
CerebrateHector
53 Posts
The Community Council involves current SC2 pros, former SC2 pros & selected SC2 streamers. I don't know if anyone outside of those circles that is involved with game balance & patches. Well it seems pretty clear to me they are doing a very bad job with Protoss... and i even play Zerg, but current representation of Protoss on top level pro play demands buffs asap | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16669 Posts
I respect their privacy. Hopefully, so will everyone else. On January 08 2024 01:23 CerebrateHector wrote: Show nested quote + The Community Council involves current SC2 pros, former SC2 pros & selected SC2 streamers. I don't know if anyone outside of those circles that is involved with game balance & patches. Well it seems pretty clear to me they are doing a very bad job with Protoss... and i even play Zerg, but current representation of Protoss on top level pro play demands buffs asap IMO, the Balance Council is doing a great job handling an almost impossible task. Diverse Race games are never 100% balanced and intricate balance also depends on maps. Over the last 15 years I've played many competitive games. Including C&C3, RA3, CoH, Brood War, SC2, Chess, EA NHL '94 Hockey, Super Tecmo Bowl. None of these games, including Chess, is perfectly balanced. When playing a competitive game where the infrastructure is running on $0 ... adjust your expectations accordingly. So for games like EA NHL '94, SC2, Super Tecmo Bowl, and Fire Pro Wrestling I get great competitive experiences in a somewhat imbalanced environment. These game are so old... considering what little money I've spent on all these games... I'm getting a great deal. If you don't like the deal... dude.. the game is 14 years old. Move on. There are a bazillion other really fun multiplayer games to play out there. | ||
CerebrateHector
53 Posts
Listen man, the game's designers used to have massive corporate resources behind them; if any one talked the way Idra or Avilo did about David Kim then the massive corp can crush them on many levels. That is no longer the case. The game's balance people are no longer protected. I respect their privacy. Hopefully, so will everyone else. I did not consider this, i just want to pass feedback, they clearly are doing a poor job at balancing Protoss. Its dissapeared from pro play basically. So they may need some help | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16669 Posts
![]() That should be a good indicator of what to expect from the SC2 competitive experience. Relax and have fun. | ||
CerebrateHector
53 Posts
Hell, look at warcraft, basically proped by the community and Back2Warcraft youtube channel | ||
Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On January 08 2024 01:29 CerebrateHector wrote: Show nested quote + Listen man, the game's designers used to have massive corporate resources behind them; if any one talked the way Idra or Avilo did about David Kim then the massive corp can crush them on many levels. That is no longer the case. The game's balance people are no longer protected. I respect their privacy. Hopefully, so will everyone else. I did not consider this, i just want to pass feedback, they clearly are doing a poor job at balancing Protoss. Its dissapeared from pro play basically. So they may need some help Well the way things currently stand, it's either we let the current Balance Council handle it, or no more balance patches...ever. Take it or leave it. Those are your only realistic options at this point. | ||
Philippe
351 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16669 Posts
On January 08 2024 01:42 CerebrateHector wrote: Funny i just saw $500.000 IEM Katowice advertisement. And the fact that there aint money available, doesnt mean that the game should not continue to get balanced. Relatively speaking, the money has disappeared from SC2 pro play. The problem is there are many other games offering far more money. This is why we don't have millions of teenagers devoting their lives to reaching the peak of SC2 pay... no money. And its not just the prize money... its infrastructure money nad resources. Its gone. On January 08 2024 01:42 CerebrateHector wrote: Hell, look at warcraft, basically proped by the community and Back2Warcraft youtube channel Cool, 14 years ago when Blizzard announced no LAN you knew where this was going. Here we are. | ||
Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On January 08 2024 02:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2024 01:42 CerebrateHector wrote: Funny i just saw $500.000 IEM Katowice advertisement. And the fact that there aint money available, doesnt mean that the game should not continue to get balanced. Relatively speaking, the money has disappeared from SC2 pro play. The problem is there are many other games offering far more money. This is why we don't have millions of teenagers devoting their lives to reaching the peak of SC2 pay... no money. And its not just the prize money... its infrastructure money nad resources. Its gone. It could be worse. Without the ESL StarCraft 2 could be in the same situation as Heroes of the Storm. | ||
ejozl
Denmark3345 Posts
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
That being said, the prolonged hesitation to actually buff Protoss meaningfully is a mystery that I just can't wrap my head around. You damn well know players like Harstem and Rotterdamn are on the Balance Council, so it's just very bizarre to me that buffs weren't/aren't being pursued more aggressively. ZvP seems mostly fine, but PvT is still an absolute mess for Protoss. | ||
tigera6
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ZeroByte13
758 Posts
On January 08 2024 01:29 CerebrateHector wrote: Most tournaments have as many Protoss as Terran and Zerg combined.they clearly are doing a poor job at balancing Protoss. Its dissapeared from pro play basically. It's just that the top-8 are Terran and Zerg dominated, but everything below the very top is Protoss dominated. Do you want Ro32 to have 20 Protoss players when it's already often 14-16? | ||
CerebrateHector
53 Posts
Who cares about the mediocre ?... Only the top elite matters | ||
geokilla
Canada8230 Posts
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