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After four days of group stage matches, the eight playoff competitors in the DHM Winter Season Finals have been determined and seeded into the bracket. The Season Finals will conclude over the weekend, with the quarterfinal round being played on Nov 13, and the semifinals and grand final played on Nov 14 (Start time: 14:00 GMT (+00:00)). 
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19257 Posts
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lechatnoir
386 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24209 Posts
On November 13 2021 04:42 swarminfestor wrote: Hoping for Maru vs Rogue again in the final. yes please ; or Rogue - Dark, I'd be glad if for once they could meet in a bo7 finals instead of killing each other early... | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24209 Posts
On November 13 2021 08:21 Xain0n wrote: I don't share these wishes, I wanna see Clem vs Zest or a Serral vs Dark rematch. you're probably in a majority here, most people hate Rogue finals but swarminfestor and I are shameless Rogue fanboys  | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On November 13 2021 05:03 BisuDagger wrote: This is truly a bracket of the best players in the world plus the best underdog in the world. You couldn't ask for a better weekend! I was thinking: can this bracket be more stacked? Of course Scarlett looks like the less fearsome players in this bracket, but there are very few players missing: Cure, the GSL champ, but he's far from looking dominating regularly ; PartinG, Zoun or maybe Solar are probably a level above Scarlett, but a level or two below all the other players ; Reynor if he was not in some kind of (mini) slump ? That's about it. This bracket is almost the best possible. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Clem>Trap 3-2 Maru>Dark 3-1 Zest>Scarlett 3-0 (but at least a couple close ones) Rogue>Serral 3-2 Maru>Clem 3-1 Zest>Rogue 3-2 Maru>Zest 4-2 You know we often talk about an age of parity, but even more importantly I think we have a *stable* age of parity. I would say for the last two full years yes many people could win any tournament, but only about 10 people, and the same people that is. Take Zest, Trap, Serral, Reynor, Rogue, Dark, Cure, Maru, Clem, and Byun (less the latter now) and those people have won every single important championship in the past two years and likely will continue that way for the foreseeable future. | ||
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uselless
92 Posts
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DarkGamer
Germany323 Posts
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Drahkn
193 Posts
On November 13 2021 09:29 Pandain wrote: Dream bracket. Legit 7 of the top ten players in the world here in the round of 8. And you can't even be mad with Scarlett, as BisuDagger said, she's the perpetual best underdog Clem>Trap 3-2 Maru>Dark 3-1 Zest>Scarlett 3-0 (but at least a couple close ones) Rogue>Serral 3-2 Maru>Clem 3-1 Zest>Rogue 3-2 Maru>Zest 4-2 You know we often talk about an age of parity, but even more importantly I think we have a *stable* age of parity. I would say for the last two full years yes many people could win any tournament, but only about 10 people, and the same people that is. Take Zest, Trap, Serral, Reynor, Rogue, Dark, Cure, Maru, Clem, and Byun (less the latter now) and those people have won every single important championship in the past two years and likely will continue that way for the foreseeable future. Zest has not won a single tournament since 2017 Homestory cup, Byun has not won a Tournament since 2016. If you are trying to paint a picture of who is winning tournaments at least paint a honest one, Zergs win everything with some Terran sprinked in there and freakshow Trap who won some tournaments with questionable throws from his opponents, Serral cough Reynor cough, and I know liquipedia has his own terms of whats a premier tournament but don't kid yourselves people protoss still has not won a premier tournament in years. | ||
Poopi
France12891 Posts
On November 13 2021 21:14 Drahkn wrote: Zest has not won a single tournament since 2017 Homestory cup, Byun has not won a Tournament since 2016. If you are trying to paint a picture of who is winning tournaments at least paint a honest one, Zergs win everything with some Terran sprinked in there and freakshow Trap who won some tournaments with questionable throws from his opponents, Serral cough Reynor cough, and I know liquipedia has his own terms of whats a premier tournament but don't kid yourselves people protoss still has not won a premier tournament in years. Protoss is still the highest earning race in 2021 though. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
I don't agree with the entire top half of aligulac's bracket predictions. I'm seeing maru beat dark, and I wouldn't be surprised to see trap take out clem either. Win Top 2 Top 4 Top 8 + Show Spoiler + Clem 3 ┐ Estimated by Aligulac. Modify. | ||
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Xamo
Spain880 Posts
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tommey.liang
United States363 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1199 Posts
On November 13 2021 21:14 Drahkn wrote: Zest has not won a single tournament since 2017 Homestory cup, Byun has not won a Tournament since 2016. If you are trying to paint a picture of who is winning tournaments at least paint a honest one, Zergs win everything with some Terran sprinked in there and freakshow Trap who won some tournaments with questionable throws from his opponents, Serral cough Reynor cough, and I know liquipedia has his own terms of whats a premier tournament but don't kid yourselves people protoss still has not won a premier tournament in years. Don't know what you count as a Premier tournament, but assuming you just count GSL: Since the last time a protoss (Stats) won a GSL at the start of 2017, terran has won 9 of it, Zerg won 5. Those Zerg-wins are divided between Rogue and Dark. The terrans are divided between Innovation, Gumiho, TY, Cure and Gumiho. If you count in WCS (pre-DreamHack Masters), IEM and BlizzCon you get a few more Zerg wins with soO, Serral, Reynor, Rogue and Dark, though obviously that was at a time when Serral and Reynor dominated the rest of the world. So while it is true that Protoss hasn't won any of the very prestigues tournaments in a while (though personally I think the Liquipedia Premier is accurate enough, so Protoss has won some stuff Super Tournament), saying "Zerg is winning everything" isn't really true either. Especially in GSL it was a lot of terran dominance with a few sprinkles of Dark and Rogue in there. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On November 13 2021 21:37 InfCereal wrote: Just gunna slap aligulac's predictions in here. I don't agree with the entire top half of aligulac's bracket predictions. I'm seeing maru beat dark, and I wouldn't be surprised to see trap take out clem either. Win Top 2 Top 4 Top 8 + Show Spoiler + Clem 3 ┐ Estimated by Aligulac. Modify. Lol wild. Aligulac is weird. I think Serral is mad consistent and pretty much been top 3 worldwide nonstop for years, but no way he has a 40% chance of winning 3 consecutive series against top 10 players in the world. | ||
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