EPTCould e-sport emerge in North America/Europe? - Page 4
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On August 10 2007 05:46 Wizard[pl] wrote: Europe, plausible, but not really, and the main reason, is that while north america is 2 countries, same language, etc., europe is so many countries, so many languages, and it would be difficult to centralize everything. Just my opinion. Like everyone in europe that is older than 15 can read/write english as good as most english speakers, so thats not really a problem. I feel more comfortable writing in english than swedish, and i really hate when others start writing in swedish to me just beacuse im a swede. | ||
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Session9ine
Canada3 Posts
In South Korea you have a country that has almost all of its population centralized in one city. When you want to run a tourney, you don't have to pay for all the competitors to fly to the city, pay for accomodations, etc etc. In North America, to have a 16 player tournament last a month would cost thousands upon thousands of dollars just in flight/accomodation costs, let alone the players participating aren't able to support themselves in a foreign city. All we can really do is have one week / weekend events which themselves cost thousands in accomadation costs. I don't see gaming as being "nerdy" anymore. Its a huge industry and the interest is there. PCGaming is going by the wayside somewhat to console gaming though. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On August 10 2007 05:58 Session9ine wrote: Im not sure if this has been stated yet, but the biggest hurdle I see in making progaming work in North America, and to a lesser extent Europe is a central hub. In South Korea you have a country that has almost all of its population centralized in one city. When you want to run a tourney, you don't have to pay for all the competitors to fly to the city, pay for accomodations, etc etc. In North America, to have a 16 player tournament last a month would cost thousands upon thousands of dollars just in flight/accomodation costs, let alone the players participating aren't able to support themselves in a foreign city. All we can really do is have one week / weekend events which themselves cost thousands in accomadation costs. I don't see gaming as being "nerdy" anymore. Its a huge industry and the interest is there. PCGaming is going by the wayside somewhat to console gaming though. Things like http://web.dreamhack.se/index.php?section=2&language=en could easily fix that. http://web.dreamhack.se/index.php?page=what_is_dreamhack | ||
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404.Nintu
Canada1723 Posts
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
A couple of things Blizzard would probably have to do to help it: 1. Make SC2 appeal to BW and War3 players. I think they are trying this, whether they admit it or not. I'm scared some days and hopeful other days that it means SC2 will be really good. 2. Keep Bnet free. 3. Keep hackers out. 4. Keep new users interested in SC2. 5. Make SC2 highly skill based at higher levels. | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
It's like how CGS changed Counter-Strike's rules. In the traditional Counter-Strike format for CS 1.6 and CS:Source, the first round is pistol round and whoever wins the pistol round gets about $4,000 to upgrade to better weapons while the other team who lost the pistol round must save for 3 rounds to buy new guns to fight the other team on equal levels. Also in traditional Counter-Strike you start off with $800, but in CGS rules you start with max money, which is $16,000 so you can buy almost any gun. So each round will be action pack. And who ever wins rounds up to 10 wins I think.. But in the old rules for CS it was whoever wins 16 rounds wins the match. It might sound confusing to those who don't follow competitive Counter-Strike. But yeah, SC2 MIGHT have a chance to make it mainstream in North America and other countries. | ||
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GuGo
Canada35 Posts
The only thing that will be a challenge is RTS can be boring in the beginning when the players are mining for resources. in order to keep the audience interested they need to like alter the rules a little. Like give players like 2,000 minerals and 1,500 gas in the beginning so the battles can start off quickly. I'm not suggesting that, but it seems like the only way to keep it "intense". I really hope you're not serious with this. Americans aren't people who needs pew-pew action all the time. And eitherway, 2000 minerals and 1500? I hope you were joking. | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On August 10 2007 10:43 GuGo wrote: I really hope you're not serious with this. Americans aren't people who needs pew-pew action all the time. And eitherway, 2000 minerals and 1500? I hope you were joking. No, the beginning is the best part! thats where they hype everything and give you the background information... <3 beginning | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
Starcraft 2 will be hyped like crazy I imagine, but imo the original+BW sold less in the states than one might think for such a "huge" franchise. Being a critical darling and commercial success are different things. Starcraft was very popular but it was not a casual crossover hit like the Sims or anything. I mean WoW is already outselling SC subscribers alone. SC in Korea has the advantage of having top quality content(Speaking of the editing and commentating, though I dont speak korean and can only assume) and growing a very core audience from scratch.. and now lots of girls who watch even though they have NO idea about the game. Just because the guys are cute to them. I assume this is what is pushing the ratings up out of the niche they were in before, hence bigger starleagues and more proleague. Shit like that will just not fly here, ever ever. America constantly has to dumb everything down and at best we would see edited highlights of games on G4 or the other game channel I keep hearing about. Im pretty sure the "Tournament(Like Guitar Hero is a fucking tournament game)" footage that people talked about on CBS recently was all just cobbled together and heavily edited which for someone who actually knows games will be bullshit. It basically alienates the hardcore, while failing to attract the fickle casual audience imo. But no one in television will risk making shows that actually appeal to the fans of these games, because it will require waiting for word of mouth to spread and ratings to pick up. | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
On August 10 2007 05:46 Wizard[pl] wrote: Um, in my opinion, unless something drastically changes, no. North america is too engulfed in FPS (cs) and consoles, and even then, they don't make it into something as big as in korea. Europe, plausible, but not really, and the main reason, is that while north america is 2 countries, same language, etc., europe is so many countries, so many languages, and it would be difficult to centralize everything. Just my opinion. And your location is poland. | ||
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Deathnotronic
United States39 Posts
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xmShake
United States1100 Posts
On August 09 2007 20:36 Flooper wrote: Slim chance with trash like Halo 3 being shoved down the throats of gamers by Micro$oft. Americans like crappy fps games like Halo and Counterstrike. Back when I played quake 3, which was like the starcraft of fps games, we were in the minority because the masses were infatuated with camperstrike. While I was tearing it up in Street Fighter 3rd strike, most people were lined up at the Tekken machine. Starcraft 2 will be too good of a game for the American public. Americans prefer flash over substance and I don't think a sci-fi game that isn't Halo will be cool enough for the legions of teenage gutter trash. So true.. so true.. | ||
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marshmallow
United States93 Posts
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
On August 10 2007 09:16 oshibori_probe wrote: Gogo ESPN 9 Gaming ESPN would probably be the best chance of anything large/significant happening in the Americas with gaming. | ||
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XCetron
5226 Posts
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Prose
Canada314 Posts
On August 09 2007 17:19 fuglyfrog wrote: Fox can make Americans watch any worthless shit they want. All Blizzard needs to do is give them a call. Don't stop me now! I'm having a good time, I'm having a ball. Don't stop me now! If you wanna have a good time, just give me a call! | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
Location is Canada, by country I assume it means nationality. | ||
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