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Within the release of Starcraft 2, could (Sc2) e-sport emerge in North America and Europe?
Could it eventually be as popular as how Starcraft is to Korea?
Korea was a special case where their broadband was starting to bloom and Starcraft was the only "game" they could play (because all the others were too violent).
But then again, if Starcraft 2 becomes popular (and I mean REALLY popular) then maybe it is possible for North Americans/Europeans to follow the footsteps of the Koreans... as long as it is balanced/entertaining.
Maybe it would be a cycle:
Starcraft 2 on tv (but with a small audience) -> People start watching -> Motivation for the people to continue playing Starcraft 2 and new people start playing -> Starcraft 2 on tv (but with a slightly bigger audience) -> More people start watching -> More motivation......etc
I don't know...
How plausible would it be to have a crowd of 10 000 people watching a Starcraft 2 final in the U.S/Canada?
How could Blizzard encourage Sc2 e-sport?
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I would definatly pay for a TV station that streams SC.. SC2.
Would be great, but I think this will not happen..
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Fox can make Americans watch any worthless shit they want. All Blizzard needs to do is give them a call.
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It would take a huge shift in the way american's play games to popularize it to the point of profibility. Towards a more lan based gaming environment as opposed to console based gaming. And I don't see that really happening. However if anything could do it, it would be Starcraft 2. First though, e-sports would need a HUGE image makeover Still the USA is a much different market environment than korea.
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gaming tv station in europe.... good idea.. but maybe to early...
it's not big enough here...
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Yeah I think most people in the US still see computer games as too nerdy to be able to enjoy them as a sport. Also, I think that most sports fans here would not have enough patience to enjoy a game that's as complex as starcraft.
On the other hand, poker became huge here despite being fairly nerdy and complex, so you never know.
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well they recently aired CGS (championship gaming series) on a paytv channel didn't they? that's a step in the right direction.
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Slim chance with trash like Halo 3 being shoved down the throats of gamers by Micro$oft.
Americans like crappy fps games like Halo and Counterstrike. Back when I played quake 3, which was like the starcraft of fps games, we were in the minority because the masses were infatuated with camperstrike. While I was tearing it up in Street Fighter 3rd strike, most people were lined up at the Tekken machine.
Starcraft 2 will be too good of a game for the American public. Americans prefer flash over substance and I don't think a sci-fi game that isn't Halo will be cool enough for the legions of teenage gutter trash.
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On August 09 2007 20:36 Flooper wrote:
Slim chance with trash like Halo 3 being shoved down the throats of gamers by Micro$oft.
Americans like crappy fps games like Halo and Counterstrike. Back when I played quake 3, which was like the starcraft of fps games, we were in the minority because the masses were infatuated with camperstrike. While I was tearing it up in Street Fighter 3rd strike, most people were lined up at the Tekken machine.
Starcraft 2 will be too good of a game for the American public. Americans prefer flash over substance and I don't think a sci-fi game that isn't Halo will be cool enough for the legions of teenage gutter trash.
I thought it was Daigo tearing things up!
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I think europe would be ready soon. I dont think its a question of if but rather when esports will get bigger in europe. I cant see any reason why people would stop using computers or stop playing games. When our generation grows older then people of all ages will be playing games and it will be a much bigger part of our culture not just something kids and teenagers do. That is actualy happening as we speak. People who grew up with the NES can be doctors today. Maybe it will be painful to wait but sooner or later it will happend and Im hoping SC2 will help change 
In the end its up to us in the community if we want things to happend. Without fansites with volunteer workers there would be no community and no esports. To those already doing something (it doesnt have to be big since we are so many) good job! And to everyone else, remember that a community is not only about taking but also about giving back.
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thedeadhaji
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America - tough b/c video games have such a negative stigma attached to them to have a very wide appeal. A bigger problem though I feel, is that there is a great dirth of personnel to provide the MC roles... I suppose it's possible that the guys who are currently working in places like ITG and GGL could come on board, but I'm not sure how it'd work out b/c they'd essentially be competitors.
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there is a progaming scene in europe, so it is not hard to imagine that sc2 could accelerate the growth of the scene there.
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[B]People who grew up with the NES can be doctors today
I played NES and i'm engeneer now :D
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On August 09 2007 17:04 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I would definatly pay for a TV station that streams SC.. SC2.
Would be great, but I think this will not happen..
Well actually Giga2 is pretty close to that. Though atm they still have lots of older german material they repeat over and over again, they stream many international tournaments like the ESWC, the WCG (I think) and the WC3L in english. In the next few days they will cover the e-Stars tourney in Korea (with lots of korean progamers, I wonder why there's no thread about it here yet). So if Sc2 will overgrow Wc3 in popularity, G2 will surely bring lots of it on their shows.
So I think in fact it is not very unlikely that your dream will come true. 
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Europe already has progamers to some extent, but it's an underground thing there. America, however, doesn't.
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We need an e-sport organisation in every country then our opinions have more power.
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In Korean economy was in a strange place when BW was released. Computer ownership was lower than in the west due to high prices but the technology was the same. Console games were shunned as Japanese. Thus the PCbang became widespread. This meant that instead of the antisocial gamer stigma which still exists in Europe and America gaming became a social activity, and spread in a way only really comparable to martial arts. People would meet at their local bang and play against each other, competing to be the best there, training together. They'd form teams and play the teams of other PC bangs. The best players from one would challenge the best players from others in a sort of dojo culture. When this fused with the mass media progaming was born.
Brood war was the right game in the right place. It was an accident of history and I don't think the same catalysts will come together in Europe. That being said, other catalysts such as an increasing gamer market and corporate sponsorship could create progaming here.
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On August 09 2007 16:59 GuGo wrote:
How could Blizzard encourage Sc2 e-sport?
They could start by arranging some tournaments and events outside of US and Korea for once, I know the bigger audience is in US and so on, But if Blizzard won't help promote SC2 in Europe and North America it is never gonna become anything else then a great RTS game.
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On August 09 2007 21:13 a11 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2007 17:04 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I would definatly pay for a TV station that streams SC.. SC2.
Would be great, but I think this will not happen.. Well actually Giga2 is pretty close to that. Though atm they still have lots of older german material they repeat over and over again, they stream many international tournaments like the ESWC, the WCG (I think) and the WC3L in english. In the next few days they will cover the e-Stars tourney in Korea (with lots of korean progamers, I wonder why there's no thread about it here yet). So if Sc2 will overgrow Wc3 in popularity, G2 will surely bring lots of it on their shows. So I think in fact it is not very unlikely that your dream will come true.
Giga is not really close to MBC/OGN . Not at all. Sorry. They stream far to many things.. I want a station that just sends SC/Sc2.
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ign actually had an article where they mentioned that Blizzard had said they were working on a deal to broadcast SC2 competitions.
"Blizzard had mentioned there may be a deal forthcoming regarding broadcasting their games on television in North America."
I cant remember what article though, but that is a direct quote from it.
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