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IEM Katowice 2021 to be held offline but without audience

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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
December 15 2020 07:45 GMT
#34
On December 15 2020 16:25 MrMischelito wrote:
with SC2, isn't offline still online just with players on site? without audience it wouldn't make much of a difference for me.
that said, it would be nice for the players if they can meet in person


It evens out the conditions for the players which is a huge part of why we consider offline results to be much more valuable.
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
December 15 2020 08:08 GMT
#35
At least it is offline
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
December 15 2020 10:04 GMT
#36
I am really happy that they try to make this offline! If it can't happen, so be it. But at least they tried
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
December 15 2020 11:31 GMT
#37
I mean offline is great and all but has ESL seriously considered the prospect for non-EU players to actually get a visa and travel to Poland? Like if somehow all the Korean players can't acquire a visa because the government says no what would ESL do about it?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
December 15 2020 12:13 GMT
#38
On December 15 2020 20:31 yht9657 wrote:
I mean offline is great and all but has ESL seriously considered the prospect for non-EU players to actually get a visa and travel to Poland? Like if somehow all the Korean players can't acquire a visa because the government says no what would ESL do about it?


As fair as I understand if travel to the location isn't possible, they'll try to get players as close to it as possible, so they can host on EU servers only which will minimize lag. Meaning somewhere in Germany, Sweden, Switzerland or whatever
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osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
December 15 2020 13:26 GMT
#39
Let's be realistic, offline is going to be extremely difficult for Korean and Chinese players. Plane tickets are super expensive, and at the moment non-EU residence can't fly to Poland afaik.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
December 15 2020 13:53 GMT
#40
On December 15 2020 22:26 osliang wrote:
Let's be realistic, offline is going to be extremely difficult for Korean and Chinese players. Plane tickets are super expensive, and at the moment non-EU residence can't fly to Poland afaik.


Travel is paid for apparently, there is a discussion going on twitter that the tournament prize distribution is extremely top heavy and then that came up. Still hope they address the distribution stuff
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
December 15 2020 22:53 GMT
#41
On December 15 2020 09:51 iMECH_KolosS wrote:
Makes Sense. On a different note, have they announced in-game perks for watching the event ? Couldn't find info anywhere.


I doubt they will produce any in-game content after they announced SC2 is going into maintenance mode with no further development. If I recall correctly even the artist doing the portraits in previous years tweeted that there will be no portraits this year.
ooCast1
Profile Joined March 2019
25 Posts
December 16 2020 01:05 GMT
#42
I'm concerned about whether non-EU players are even allowed to enter Poland, according to this:

https://www.gov.pl/web/coronavirus/travel#

Looks like players who are not EU citizens are not allowed to enter?
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
December 16 2020 01:18 GMT
#43
On December 16 2020 10:05 ooCast1 wrote:
I'm concerned about whether non-EU players are even allowed to enter Poland, according to this:

https://www.gov.pl/web/coronavirus/travel#

Looks like players who are not EU citizens are not allowed to enter?


I don't think they will have it in Poland. Perhaps another country in EU.
ooCast1
Profile Joined March 2019
25 Posts
December 16 2020 01:41 GMT
#44
On December 16 2020 10:18 buzz_bender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2020 10:05 ooCast1 wrote:
I'm concerned about whether non-EU players are even allowed to enter Poland, according to this:

https://www.gov.pl/web/coronavirus/travel#

Looks like players who are not EU citizens are not allowed to enter?


I don't think they will have it in Poland. Perhaps another country in EU.


You mean IEM Katowice, even if offline, will not be held in Katowice?
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
December 16 2020 05:27 GMT
#45
For non-EU players, through they may manage to get visa and have the ability to travel, it is even more difficult to find an airplane and necessary steps (such as nucleic test) to allow them to go back, and they would face another 2 weeks of quarantine at own expense after they are back to home.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-16 06:52:36
December 16 2020 06:52 GMT
#46
Sweden is and probably will be pretty open to all kind of citizens. Maybe they do it there? With the Dreamhack guys? Who knows
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 16 2020 11:15 GMT
#47
ESL sometime back announced that they built a studio to do preliminary CS tournaments offline. Somewhere in western europe, don't recall the exact location. Maybe they'll use that for the world championship.
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ooCast1
Profile Joined March 2019
25 Posts
December 16 2020 18:35 GMT
#48
Will ESL announce the country and location of the offline studio soon?
It takes long time for players of certain countries, such as China, to apply the visa.
Yes, even announcing after DH Last Chance may be too late.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
December 24 2020 18:54 GMT
#49
On December 17 2020 03:35 ooCast1 wrote:
Will ESL announce the country and location of the offline studio soon?
It takes long time for players of certain countries, such as China, to apply the visa.
Yes, even announcing after DH Last Chance may be too late.


I'm guessing that IEM Katowice will be held in Katowice. Shot in the dark though.
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
December 24 2020 21:22 GMT
#50
The fact that this is offline is nice, but I can't help but feel like it'll weed out some players depending on their countries' covid situation (and visas etc.)
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-27 13:28:34
December 27 2020 13:28 GMT
#51
Korean apologists are going to be in shambles--if one of their players loses they won't be able to blame it on ping I guess "they just don't care" will have to suffice as an explanation.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 27 2020 14:39 GMT
#52
On December 27 2020 22:28 mierin wrote:
Korean apologists are going to be in shambles--if one of their players loses they won't be able to blame it on ping I guess "they just don't care" will have to suffice as an explanation.


How can you forget "Jet-lag Korean" :o ?
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
December 27 2020 15:28 GMT
#53
On December 27 2020 22:28 mierin wrote:
Korean apologists are going to be in shambles--if one of their players loses they won't be able to blame it on ping I guess "they just don't care" will have to suffice as an explanation.

Yep, and it's not like most of the EU vs KR matches are played on NA with similar ping to both as well
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