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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26505 Posts
November 25 2019 09:04 GMT
#21
What a performance from the top two especially, although Mana’s run was also nice to see, what a tournament. I shall ensure I have a valid passport for the next one.

While focus tends to be on the head to head with Serral, for me the significant factor from the past while is Reynor is starting to smack down good Koreans consistently outside of mirror, which bodes well for the future of the rivalry too. Katowice hype for me was already almost at breaking point but now has upped it even more.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 25 2019 09:28 GMT
#22
Man, what an event. Hard to even put in words. I'll probably regret forever not attending this, but watching it all is the next best thing, I guess. Anyways, thanks to everyone involved for making it possible - fantastic work!

It was mentioned during the finals, but I have to agree with the point that Reynor actually looked more dangerous than Serral on average during the tournament for the first time (to me at least), which is pretty fucking scary. Glad we have such a rivalry going on (and with games such as these, who can complain about ZvZ?).

I was half expecting Dark to be flown in via an airship blasting the Imperial March after the Grand Finals to take on the winner... but I guess TaKe had to leave a bit of room to grow.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
November 25 2019 09:33 GMT
#23
Awesome write up
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UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-25 09:37:34
November 25 2019 09:37 GMT
#24
On November 25 2019 18:04 tigon_ridge wrote:
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On November 25 2019 17:46 UnLarva wrote:
Weird feeling. Never seen generally more calm, happy aftermath reactions of a tournament in the internet. Level of balance whining is down despite Zergs once again stole the show. Serral fans are seemingly collectively feeling little bit shamed for Serral's win because Reynor was so incredibly great and would've very well deserved to win the tournament too by his performances. Terrans and Protosses, and generally all who hate mirror matchups, but particularly ZvZ seems behaving and commenting in way that they all are arrived to the consensus opinion: "ZvZ is soooooooooo ZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZzzzzzz-zzz....., but Serral vs Reynor... that is totally something else". Things probably will change back to "normal" soon enough, but I've never witnessed more serene, friendly, and pleased SC2 community as a whole online before.

That level Great the HSC XX was. We want more, we want more, we want more.... :D

I did see a bit of whining on the part of some koreaboos and general balance whiners, but yeah all in all the results were pretty non-controversial. I'm also still a bit disappointed by the lack of respect and recognition Reynor deserves. Well, no wonder there's a lack of fresh blood; here's a guy not even old enough to vote, and he's wreaking havoc upon some of the best—and hardly anyone acknowledges him as top 10 in the world. Maybe the community doesn't deserve to see new SC2 talents.


Indeed. Reynor doesn't get enough love he deserves. Someone, somewhere in the reddit commented that there haven't ever been more accomplished 17 years old player in SC-scene. At least now its pretty clear that if there was long period of time when Serral was considered as "Bottle neck" and "Ultimate test" for all players trying to win a top tournament, now there are two bottle necks and tests one must pass to get to the goal.

Together as training partners and friends they form so tight bottle neck that saying like "Going full foreigner" get new meaning these days. You really have to go 'full foreigner' to get past that test in the future, Top Koreans included. Together they can bring the game, ZvZ especially, to the new, unprecedented, stratospheric layers of existence. They are each others best patch to get adapted.

As Serral fan, I honestly think that Reynor's potential top ceiling is at higher level than Serral's, and saying that with rather high feelings of confidence too. Reynor deserves all the love and hype he can get. The Real SC2 prodigy he is.
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dankobanana
Profile Joined February 2016
Croatia244 Posts
November 25 2019 09:45 GMT
#25
great event!
Battle is waged in the name of the many. The brave, who generation after generation choose the mantle of - Dark Templar!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-25 09:58:17
November 25 2019 09:58 GMT
#26
This event will go down in history. Congrats to the TakeTV crew for a peerless event, and thank you for the good memories.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
November 25 2019 10:31 GMT
#27
Side question: were they playing with the balance test mod, or is there just an option in custom games now?
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 25 2019 10:40 GMT
#28
On November 25 2019 19:31 digmouse wrote:
Side question: were they playing with the balance test mod, or is there just an option in custom games now?

They made an extra mod for it, if I recall correctly (to have all the new changes + the correct observer UI).
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
November 25 2019 10:45 GMT
#29
On November 25 2019 19:40 TheOneAboveU wrote:
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On November 25 2019 19:31 digmouse wrote:
Side question: were they playing with the balance test mod, or is there just an option in custom games now?

They made an extra mod for it, if I recall correctly (to have all the new changes + the correct observer UI).

That makes sense, because if they were using the regular test mod they won't be able to use WCS GameHeart alongside.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 25 2019 11:28 GMT
#30
On November 25 2019 19:40 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 19:31 digmouse wrote:
Side question: were they playing with the balance test mod, or is there just an option in custom games now?

They made an extra mod for it, if I recall correctly (to have all the new changes + the correct observer UI).

Yeah, exactly, because they used that "HSC-Mod" they could even fix a bug overnight. IIrc it had something to do with the BC stun while tactical jump is loading
MaxPax
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
November 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#31
On November 25 2019 20:28 dbRic1203 wrote:
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On November 25 2019 19:40 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On November 25 2019 19:31 digmouse wrote:
Side question: were they playing with the balance test mod, or is there just an option in custom games now?

They made an extra mod for it, if I recall correctly (to have all the new changes + the correct observer UI).

Yeah, exactly, because they used that "HSC-Mod" they could even fix a bug overnight. IIrc it had something to do with the BC stun while tactical jump is loading


It was significantly more severe than that, abducts would just put BC tactical jump on cool down, regardless of whether it was being used at all or in stun mode.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
November 25 2019 11:59 GMT
#32
Man that was awesome!

I regret no going so much right now, just because my vacation budget for this year was all used up already but I should have gone anyway full YOLO mode :D

Awesome tournament, awesome venue, awesome fans, awesome organizers, awesome Dennis! AWESOME!!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
zalem95
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru186 Posts
November 25 2019 12:35 GMT
#33
An amazing event, l have watched sc2 tournaments since the beta, but this was something special thank you taketv for a great event!
nothing special
EESCLuna
Profile Joined February 2017
Spain53 Posts
November 25 2019 12:42 GMT
#34
Last 8 matches on the tournament, where is supossed to have the best level of play, almost everything is 3-0 from the zerg side. Maybe is the most entertaining matchup but thinking that Serral and Reynor are there Only for their skills is probably the best example of lack of game knowledge.

I mean, at a level of play of innovation or Trap, look like there´s nothing they can do to win a single game (Inno done it once), it´s clearly a problem of balance, design or whatever...

I even miss WCS without region lock...
Balance means nerf Protoss
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-25 13:41:01
November 25 2019 13:09 GMT
#35
On November 25 2019 21:42 EESCLuna wrote:
Last 8 matches on the tournament, where is supossed to have the best level of play, almost everything is 3-0 from the zerg side. Maybe is the most entertaining matchup but thinking that Serral and Reynor are there Only for their skills is probably the best example of lack of game knowledge.

I mean, at a level of play of innovation or Trap, look like there´s nothing they can do to win a single game (Inno done it once), it´s clearly a problem of balance, design or whatever...

I even miss WCS without region lock...

Your comment exemplifies the dunning kruger effect pretty much perfectly. Zest took out solar 3-1 and soO 2-0; and Trap beat solar 2-0. So, you have a pretty funny definition of "almost everything." Inno was almost even with Serral in maps. But you're apparently overflowing with game knowledge though, so you at least have that going for ya.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 25 2019 13:24 GMT
#36
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 25 2019 13:33 GMT
#37
A great event and the first time we had a full non korean final since koreans were invited in significant numbers.

Reynor actually looked as scary in this event as he is in WCS, annihilating Innovation and Zest(especially against the latter Reynor looked better than Serral, if Zest didn't hesitate he would have probably been up 2-1 in the three maps they played); coupled with his performance at BlizzCon, I think we are safe to say he is a top player right now, certainly top 10 material.

I was glad to see Clem playing competitive series against koreans, even if he lost. I hope he will keep improving along with the new wave of uprising players like Astrea, Future, Goblin and Skillous.
samAel1
Profile Joined October 2019
Poland27 Posts
November 25 2019 13:45 GMT
#38
Any pro's talking about balance after the event? Toss looks pretty weak against zerg in every stage of the game Or maybe toss nowadays are weak players?
samÆl
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
November 25 2019 13:48 GMT
#39
Should read “game four on Acropolis”.


Congrats to Serral and Reynor for playing one of the most intense series I’ve ever seen
EvolutioN1
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
November 25 2019 13:51 GMT
#40
On November 25 2019 22:45 samAel1 wrote:
Any pro's talking about balance after the event? Toss looks pretty weak against zerg in every stage of the game Or maybe toss nowadays are weak players?


We just had a pretty major balance patch and big Zerg nerfs were most of that. Pros are probably feeling out the new meta before judging after one tournament.
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