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Quasarrion
Profile Joined July 2018
60 Posts
September 14 2019 07:26 GMT
#41
I'm a bit conflicted about Dark's rank. Elazer's victory over him was a pretty significant upset, and his win over TY didn't look super convincing.


Who else would you put rank 2 if not Dark? ...

Yes that was a fluke vs inform Elazer, but its his worst matchup, threw game one , ZvZ is volatile and still was very close. This happens 1 out of 5 times, well it happened.

Againts TY Dark was almost styling without Infestor Brood lords.

Dark is just crazy good and has a very diverse builds and mixes up strats a lot, making him unpredictable.


Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
September 14 2019 07:31 GMT
#42
On September 14 2019 16:26 Quasarrion wrote:
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I'm a bit conflicted about Dark's rank. Elazer's victory over him was a pretty significant upset, and his win over TY didn't look super convincing.


Who else would you put rank 2 if not Dark? ...

Yes that was a fluke vs inform Elazer, but its his worst matchup, threw game one , ZvZ is volatile and still was very close. This happens 1 out of 5 times, well it happened.

Againts TY Dark was almost styling without Infestor Brood lords.

Dark is just crazy good and has a very diverse builds and mixes up strats a lot, making him unpredictable.



Not to mention the fact that Dark used BL infestor heavily in his TvZ earlier in GSL and therefore chose to use ultras vs TY to be unpredictable. Any player confident enough in their overall game to change their style and strat just to disorient his opponents planning has some serious balls. Dark pulled it off and made it look easy, I'm not a fan of Dark but who can't be a fan of how great he is at this game.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1251 Posts
September 14 2019 08:28 GMT
#43
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
September 14 2019 09:48 GMT
#44
THE GAP
HAS
CLOSED
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
September 14 2019 10:37 GMT
#45
b o n j w a
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 14 2019 10:39 GMT
#46
I wonder if this means that the power ranking fetish that some TL.net users have is going to lose some intensity or rather return next month with renewed force. My money is on the latter
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
September 14 2019 11:38 GMT
#47
I just hope finally getting that number one slot doesn’t make Serral complacent about Blizzcon
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-14 11:43:44
September 14 2019 11:42 GMT
#48
On September 14 2019 12:15 Xain0n wrote:
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On September 14 2019 12:08 Anc13nt wrote:
yeah Serral is a clear #1. He 3-1'd three top koreans in a row GSL vs the World with ruthless efficiency and won Montreal while dropping only 2 maps.


Wasn't it one map?


you're right. For some reason I thought he lost to some person before losing to Reynor but he did only lose 1 set. I think Serral has 40% chance of winning Blizzcon at the moment unless someone seriously steps up their form.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland954 Posts
September 14 2019 14:33 GMT
#49
On September 14 2019 20:38 Wombat_NI wrote:
I just hope finally getting that number one slot doesn’t make Serral complacent about Blizzcon


He's won Blizzcon, all 4 WCS titles in one season, and reached the #1 spot on the TL.net power rank.

Honestly, what else is there?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
September 14 2019 14:35 GMT
#50
On September 14 2019 23:33 hexhaven wrote:
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On September 14 2019 20:38 Wombat_NI wrote:
I just hope finally getting that number one slot doesn’t make Serral complacent about Blizzcon


He's won Blizzcon, all 4 WCS titles in one season, and reached the #1 spot on the TL.net power rank.

Honestly, what else is there?


Could improve that golf game
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
September 14 2019 14:49 GMT
#51
On September 14 2019 23:33 hexhaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2019 20:38 Wombat_NI wrote:
I just hope finally getting that number one slot doesn’t make Serral complacent about Blizzcon


He's won Blizzcon, all 4 WCS titles in one season, and reached the #1 spot on the TL.net power rank.

Honestly, what else is there?

EPS championship
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
September 14 2019 14:54 GMT
#52
Dark seems so overrated considering his weakness in zvz, he is not even top 2 in this mu, for sure, his zvp/t are greats but I feel like more well-rounded player should have been rank higher.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
September 14 2019 14:58 GMT
#53
On September 14 2019 13:10 Zambrah wrote:
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On September 14 2019 09:37 JJH777 wrote:
On September 14 2019 08:48 tigon_ridge wrote:
I always find it funny how much credence people give to opinion pieces. For me, Aligulac is far more accurate. There was never a time since late 2018 that Serral should've fallen to #2, let alone #3. Reynor should also be on the list, but he gets ignored just because he hasn't had enough opportunities to prove himself against the "big league" gsl players. Apparently, taking two series off of the best player in the world twice in one year to win two tournaments doesn't count for much around here. Some idiot claimed that there's a pro-foreigner bias. lol It's the opposite—it's pro-Korean, by far. Yes, we know Koreans dominate this game, but that's no excuse for being so negligent towards Reynor's super-consistent high performance. I think that's almost disrespectful.


Reynor is only consistent in WCS. In every other event this year he has performed as an average foreigner would and that is a pretty big sample size at this point. IEM, WESG, Assembly, Homestory Cup, GSL vs the world. At all of those events he was only top 16 or worse. And it's not like he was only losing to the best of the best either. He was eliminated by players like Heromarine, Special, and Creator, Ptitdrogo, and Neeb in those events. All very good but none of them have been top 10 in the world at any point this year. Reynor being in the top 10 would definitely be foreigner bias.


While I agree that Reynor hasn't looked like the kind of player that would ideally populate these rankings, being highly dominant in one league and placing mediocre-ly in most others sounds like a player who is often found on the upper rungs of the Power rankings: Maru.

Agreed, Cure should also be up there since he's doing well in Olimoleague and noobmaster 69 should also be up there since he's doing well in silver league automated tournaments.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
September 14 2019 15:15 GMT
#54
On September 14 2019 23:54 stilt wrote:
Dark seems so overrated considering his weakness in zvz, he is not even top 2 in this mu, for sure, his zvp/t are greats but I feel like more well-rounded player should have been rank higher.

I don't really see who you put ahead of Dark here other than Serral. There's a case to be made against everyone behind him.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 14 2019 15:17 GMT
#55
On September 14 2019 23:58 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2019 13:10 Zambrah wrote:
On September 14 2019 09:37 JJH777 wrote:
On September 14 2019 08:48 tigon_ridge wrote:
I always find it funny how much credence people give to opinion pieces. For me, Aligulac is far more accurate. There was never a time since late 2018 that Serral should've fallen to #2, let alone #3. Reynor should also be on the list, but he gets ignored just because he hasn't had enough opportunities to prove himself against the "big league" gsl players. Apparently, taking two series off of the best player in the world twice in one year to win two tournaments doesn't count for much around here. Some idiot claimed that there's a pro-foreigner bias. lol It's the opposite—it's pro-Korean, by far. Yes, we know Koreans dominate this game, but that's no excuse for being so negligent towards Reynor's super-consistent high performance. I think that's almost disrespectful.


Reynor is only consistent in WCS. In every other event this year he has performed as an average foreigner would and that is a pretty big sample size at this point. IEM, WESG, Assembly, Homestory Cup, GSL vs the world. At all of those events he was only top 16 or worse. And it's not like he was only losing to the best of the best either. He was eliminated by players like Heromarine, Special, and Creator, Ptitdrogo, and Neeb in those events. All very good but none of them have been top 10 in the world at any point this year. Reynor being in the top 10 would definitely be foreigner bias.


While I agree that Reynor hasn't looked like the kind of player that would ideally populate these rankings, being highly dominant in one league and placing mediocre-ly in most others sounds like a player who is often found on the upper rungs of the Power rankings: Maru.

Agreed, Cure should also be up there since he's doing well in Olimoleague and noobmaster 69 should also be up there since he's doing well in silver league automated tournaments.


Hahah that's the best you can do now, right?
Reynor might have been #10, he had too weak of a showing at GSL vs the World to justify that but it's not unthinkable the way you seem to suggest.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 14 2019 15:31 GMT
#56
Problem with Reynor only doing well in WCS is that none of the players he's beating there are top 10 (other than Serral I guess).

No matter how consistently you beat them, if you're only beating people that aren't good enough to be ranked on a PR then you shouldn't be on it either.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
September 14 2019 15:34 GMT
#57
They all had one full year to prepare for the World Champion. It must be enough, even then The Champion didn't prepare for any GSL seasons either during 2018 or 2019.

Once, just once TL.net got it right.

Prepare for Serral!

He will defend his title. No free meals. Easier it goes as finally he is unanimously declared the #1 in TL.net Power Ranks. GFS!

It's evidently easier to win BlizzCon than this somewhat questionable "trophy". All foreigners will remember this.

"GSL elites" are better if they remember this. Ofc, it doesn't mean anything as long as Serral doesn't win a GSL series, they say (about that famous preparation time, who is exactly the one who has time to prepare?). Luckily GSL will be a side quest if they cannot win even in such low level weekenders like The GSL vs The World, or The Blizzcon.

There are absolutely no unmentioned remarks here on Top Koreans, its just about how it looks like. No free meals anymore.

I agree, there are room for that "Korean Elitism", traditionally and historically. It's OK. But when the Best player (and some other player(s) too) isn't Korean after about after some 1.5+ years in this era (including several patches) and still they play that same game in their minds...

TL.net writers demonstrated an unprecedented bravery with this Power Rank.

Its simply mindfuck there at "elite grounds". They are those who must DEFEND!

Order of precedence:

#1 of TL.net Monthly Power Rank
The Best Player of the World (of a year)

Blizzcon Champion
Premier HSC Champion
IEM Champion
WESG Champion
Assembly Champion

GSL Season Champion
Major HST Champion
WCS Tournament Champion

Blah. Blah.

Blizzard could just easily organize (low pay) The Elite of The Elites month long, day to day, double elimination tournament of best 32 players with big groups, which would be economically possible for all of those 32 (or what ever) players participating. Currently, they waste money to Top-heavy tournaments (that are deemed meaningless by Korean Elitism of TL.Net).

Intentionally? No sensible corporation would share the primary loots of tournaments that way they do now, if the primary aim would be the longevity of the game (=more profits).
Part-time Serralogist
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
September 14 2019 15:40 GMT
#58
On September 15 2019 00:34 UnLarva wrote:
Blah. Blah.

This is an unintentional yet outstanding summary of your post.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
September 14 2019 15:43 GMT
#59
On September 14 2019 23:49 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2019 23:33 hexhaven wrote:
On September 14 2019 20:38 Wombat_NI wrote:
I just hope finally getting that number one slot doesn’t make Serral complacent about Blizzcon


He's won Blizzcon, all 4 WCS titles in one season, and reached the #1 spot on the TL.net power rank.

Honestly, what else is there?

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UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-14 15:58:28
September 14 2019 15:57 GMT
#60
On September 15 2019 00:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2019 00:34 UnLarva wrote:
Blah. Blah.

This is an unintentional yet outstanding summary of your post.


Yeah. Intentionally it just painted the basic problem of the system (of past ages if you let me say that).

Blizzard try secure some last failing profits of their "failing" franchise.

You're sure they are eager to pay so much to old mercs, when those mercs would join to fun much more cheaper?

The pile a bank for those old mercs, but even mediocre cut to The Aces' salaries would up keep the next generation, if spread more wisely.

Blah. Blah. Is your kind of people.

What is exactly difference between the Winner claim of 200000 dollars and 100000 dollars, when you look at it from the perspective of continuity of the game, and new coming usurpers?

How about making it reasonable for those new comers?

100000 dollars will move arses of every elite, but those other extra 100000 dollars (if distributed rationally) will ensure the next generation of the elite.

SC2 Brand is enough valuable you can only ruin it if you only look at Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4, having no strategic perspective.

Actually, I'm tired to point out the obvious (obvious without any inner circle information).

Blizzard probably shit voluntarily over their own crown jewel, but its not like that nobody warned them about...

Blah. Blah. IMBA!
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