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GSL vs. The World: Team World Vote (2019) - Page 15

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MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 31 2019 15:59 GMT
#281
Elazer cant complain about losing due to a popularity vote when hes literally only getting in because someone else has to get his votes for him
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 31 2019 16:04 GMT
#282
I loved the close race in Korea with players like Fantasy and Trap streaming a ton and advertising with all kinds of stuff. Fans making reddit posts and discussing the race on TL, that was fun and whoever won, it would be okay.

But the World vote definitely has a bitter taste now and if someone like Reynor or Heromarine gets screwed, it will really suck.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
July 31 2019 16:07 GMT
#283
On August 01 2019 01:04 Musicus wrote:
I loved the close race in Korea with players like Fantasy and Trap streaming a ton and advertising with all kinds of stuff. Fans making reddit posts and discussing the race on TL, that was fun and whoever won, it would be okay.

But the World vote definitely has a bitter taste now and if someone like Reynor or Heromarine gets screwed, it will really suck.

At least if Scarlett doesn't get the spot, you know Elazer is gonna deliver a similar / better performance. (if Reynor loses though I doubt any of Elazer/Scarlett will deliver as good performance as he would have...)
However I don't see Kelazhur perform as well as HeroMarine at all, so I really hope nothing crazy happens in the terran pool too. Iirc the last time Kelazhur was getting good results were during the reaper/ByuN era.
WriterMaru
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
July 31 2019 16:07 GMT
#284
On August 01 2019 01:04 Musicus wrote:
I loved the close race in Korea with players like Fantasy and Trap streaming a ton and advertising with all kinds of stuff. Fans making reddit posts and discussing the race on TL, that was fun and whoever won, it would be okay.

But the World vote definitely has a bitter taste now and if someone like Reynor or Heromarine gets screwed, it will really suck.


Totally agree with this. The "in-scene" Korean campaigning feels very natural and the way it should be with such a vote going on - in fact, as someone who always has disliked popular votes for tournaments the Korean engagement really jumped out very positively to me.

But this race right here with the external interference just shows everything that's wrong with the system.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 31 2019 16:09 GMT
#285
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 31 2019 16:10 GMT
#286
On August 01 2019 01:07 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 01:04 Musicus wrote:
I loved the close race in Korea with players like Fantasy and Trap streaming a ton and advertising with all kinds of stuff. Fans making reddit posts and discussing the race on TL, that was fun and whoever won, it would be okay.

But the World vote definitely has a bitter taste now and if someone like Reynor or Heromarine gets screwed, it will really suck.


Totally agree with this. The "in-scene" Korean campaigning feels very natural and the way it should be with such a vote going on - in fact, as someone who always has disliked popular votes for tournaments the Korean engagement really jumped out very positively to me.

But this race right here with the external interference just shows everything that's wrong with the system.


the sytem is wrong, some people are saying well its always been a popularity contest, which is true but its been a popularity contest within the community, but when players start having outside sources getting votes for them, its not even a "fan" vote anymore
blizzardxu3
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
July 31 2019 16:10 GMT
#287
Regarding my previous post, I still believe there should be more restrictions on voting. Maybe 10 active games may not be the best idea, but I'm sure there are other ways to filter the voters: SC quizzes, Twitch/ TL/ Blizz account age, and others you name it. All in all, my idea is: less votes are better than trash votes.

For Elazer, well, he might have won his ticket this time, but I'm sure he has also lost something else on the way.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18290 Posts
July 31 2019 16:10 GMT
#288
On July 30 2019 18:18 Harris1st wrote:
Team World is too straight forward. We need more drama here!

Your wish is some Polish youtuber's command...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26777 Posts
July 31 2019 16:18 GMT
#289
On August 01 2019 00:49 stardog wrote:
Elazer's explanation posted on Reddit:
Show nested quote +
Just to clarify the whole situation and my point of view on it. Pretty famous polish Youtuber with 1.7mil subscribers made a video to vote for me in GSL vs the World. He is my friend and also is on the same team as me AGO.

If you know me better than just from watching a few post-game interviews during WCS, you would know I am the last person to ask for help in this type of competition. I also believe that Reynor deserves the spot more than I do. Because of how the rules work for this vote, I assumed that 2 people from zerg vote will advance - which I wanted to be me and Reynor, as Reynor is rank 2 in WCS, I am rank 8 and Scarlett is rank 9.

Last 2 years I didn't get into GSL vs The World because I lost to Scarlett in popularity vote, even though I was higher in WCS standings both times. Not sure if you guys remember, but I didn't get into GSL vs World even after winning WCS Valencia and being rank 2wcs (literally the same position as Reynor is right now).

Long story short - Even though we are good friends, I believe I deserve to play in GSL vs the World at least once instead of Scarlett, not only because of this year, but considering all my results from past 3 years. I will feel terrible if Reynor doesn't get in, and probably consider giving up my spot, but I do think that the blame shouldn't be 100% on me here.

I kind of agree with Elazer in a sense here.

It’s been an issue with SC2 since forever, not just votes but also invites have always skewed to existing favourites, giving them more exposure, more invites and thus the cycle continues. Even talk shows followed this pattern but to the scene’s credit I feel they do a much better job giving lesser known folks a shot.

Elazer winning based on who he knows is unfair, to me Elazer will perpetually lose a fair vote to Scarlett, who has benefitted as much as anyone in SC2 history by virtue of being a fan favourite.

Despite not being quite GSL level the WCS Circuit is a real enthralling tournament to watch because it’s completely meritocratic, you don’t need a team to fly you somewhere on a slim chance of even breaking even, you don’t have to rely on invites. And we’re seeing new and exciting talents breaking through there.

I felt this being so vote dependent was a step in the wrong direction of having a clear pathway for aspiring players. Get better on the ladder, try to qualify for WCS, try to do well enough in WCS and you get a shot at taking down Korea’s best or going to Blizzcon.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Executer08
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany163 Posts
July 31 2019 16:24 GMT
#290
On July 31 2019 23:05 HolydaKing wrote:
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On July 31 2019 23:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 31 2019 22:59 Uberfather wrote:
On July 31 2019 22:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 31 2019 22:54 Uberfather wrote:
ive tracket every minute for 14 min, till 3 minute sago Its was roughly 38 votes per min quite regularly, the last entry was 36 first was 38

I noticed that it was very regular too, why my first thought was botting. If R1CH cleared it though, I guess it's legit

Poles wrecking polls, ironic.


Is this when R1CH cleared it: "Had to find it to make sure all the traffic that briefly crashed our registration page was legit"?

If so this seems like another trafic since it isnt brief but ongoing



It's ongoing but its directly related to Elazer

And no one should be surprised, the guy supporting Elazer has 1.7million subscribers on youtube and posted a youtube video. Wouldn't be surprised if it's over 10k next hour.


try 100k
"You have the image of being a robotic, stoic player among foreign fans. What do you think about that?" - "I don’t think it’s incorrect." || letodSWAG
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 31 2019 16:27 GMT
#291
don't care if I sound salty, but if one of Scarlett or Reynor don't make it to gsl vs the world its bullshit, Reynor was the leading zerg and Scarlett was 4th in voting for the entire week the voting has been up and now Elazer who had no votes now gets in because of outside help.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1923 Posts
July 31 2019 16:28 GMT
#292
Fuck the haters Elazer! You do you bro.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 31 2019 16:29 GMT
#293
im certain everyone is allowed to have friends, so don't apologize, elazer.
The Bomber boy
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
July 31 2019 16:31 GMT
#294
If Scarlet went full sellout she could probably score a apparence on day time TV, come on what's dignity against a place in a SC2 tournament
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 31 2019 16:31 GMT
#295
On August 01 2019 01:29 Wintex wrote:
im certain everyone is allowed to have friends, so don't apologize, elazer.

This can't be stated enough, while the system sucks and Blizzard should've changed it, the players should do everything they can and can't be blamed at all.

Even if Reynor drops out, you should not give up your spot Elazer!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
July 31 2019 16:31 GMT
#296
I mean, Elazer is still really good, I think its best to not take these votes too seriously.
Rayl99
Profile Joined July 2019
3 Posts
July 31 2019 16:33 GMT
#297
other than HeroMarine, did any of these foreigners bothered to campaign??
TymonTT9
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 16:34 GMT
#298
Don't be so jealous boys! Elazer is in a the most influent polish team. So he gets beneftis for that. I think he is in better performance than Scarlett tho. GL Elazer!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
July 31 2019 16:35 GMT
#299
On August 01 2019 01:33 Rayl99 wrote:
other than HeroMarine, did any of these foreigners bothered to campaign??

Compared to the Koreans, their efforts have been kinda laughable. The foreign team house in Korea did a 24h stream but that frankly did more work in campaigning for TY than it did for any of them.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 31 2019 16:36 GMT
#300
On August 01 2019 01:33 Rayl99 wrote:
other than HeroMarine, did any of these foreigners bothered to campaign??


Scarlett sort of did when the foreign team house did their 24-hour stream, but other than that I think big Gabe is the only one foreign player actually campaigning like the Koreans are doing
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