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GSL vs. The World: Team World Vote (2019) - Page 14

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BoheN
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
July 31 2019 15:12 GMT
#261
So, the top6, top7 and top8 will fight with Koreans, pretty nice, /Voted on Elazer, he is good player, even better than Scarlet imho
BigLupu
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 15:18 GMT
#262
Quickly, vote for Reynor so Team World might win even if Serral get's Protosses
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 31 2019 15:20 GMT
#263
Harstem said it best, the voting has turned into who has the most famous friend
Szymon126
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 15:20 GMT
#264
Armia Gimpera auu
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-31 15:25:54
July 31 2019 15:24 GMT
#265



...
so basically this vote is now completly f-ed if they really help kela
LiquipediaSCV ready | SC2-Liquipedia Admin, reviewer and editor | Wax called me a Liquipedia wizard in one of his articles for 2019 WCS Standings
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19223 Posts
July 31 2019 15:28 GMT
#266
On July 31 2019 23:53 Dawid103 wrote:
Bisu, isn't that better to give other people oportunity to face the best of the best?




This is my view, but it is okay if you or any one else shares a different one:

Those players not voted can create the opportunity to play the best of the best on their own. They do this by improving enough to advance far in tournaments like IEM and Dreamhack thus meeting the best of the best. My view is that we look at those results and vote reward those players that did advance far in tournaments. Has is a great example of this. He may not have been the ultimate best protoss the time of the vote, but at least he produced a reward able result in recent tournaments. Who more then Reynor in the votes deserves to be sent more based on his outstanding results and efforts in just the second year of his WCS career.


What is not okay with me, is the way in which the votes we gained by Elazer this year. However, even though I'm bitter about it now, I've said my piece and will move on to celebrating the players and enjoying the games once the polls are closed.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 31 2019 15:30 GMT
#267
On August 01 2019 00:24 hjpalpha wrote:
https://twitter.com/SpeCialsc2/status/1156582285543661568
https://twitter.com/SpeCialsc2/status/1156585309842358275

...
so basically this vote is now completly f-ed if they really help kela


shoudlve been Reynor and Scarlett, now it's gonna be Elazer and Kelhazur, well at least we still have neeb and serral going
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
July 31 2019 15:32 GMT
#268
On August 01 2019 00:30 MoDiV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 00:24 hjpalpha wrote:
https://twitter.com/SpeCialsc2/status/1156582285543661568
https://twitter.com/SpeCialsc2/status/1156585309842358275

...
so basically this vote is now completly f-ed if they really help kela


shoudlve been Reynor and Scarlett, now it's gonna be Elazer and Kelhazur, well at least we still have neeb and serral going

Hopefully we don't lose HeroMarine as well, this would be a shame :/.
WriterMaru
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 31 2019 15:34 GMT
#269
On August 01 2019 00:32 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2019 00:30 MoDiV wrote:
On August 01 2019 00:24 hjpalpha wrote:
https://twitter.com/SpeCialsc2/status/1156582285543661568
https://twitter.com/SpeCialsc2/status/1156585309842358275

...
so basically this vote is now completly f-ed if they really help kela


shoudlve been Reynor and Scarlett, now it's gonna be Elazer and Kelhazur, well at least we still have neeb and serral going

Hopefully we don't lose HeroMarine as well, this would be a shame :/.


shit i didnt even think of that, if kela boots out heromarine ill be so damn salty
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
July 31 2019 15:34 GMT
#270
This is different; Trap deserves to be at GSL vs the World, you can’t make a case that Elazer has the same resume over a Reynor for example.
v5872012
Profile Joined May 2018
35 Posts
July 31 2019 15:36 GMT
#271
How dare Elazer get that much number of vote...
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-31 15:43:21
July 31 2019 15:40 GMT
#272
I dont get it
If Elazer has such a dedicated (polish) fanbase, then why did they wait till the last day, why not vote earlier?
NVM, read a few pages back, i guess the youtube guy did it
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
GMgen0cide
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 15:46 GMT
#273
did someone hack the vote? lol Elazer got over 9k votes, thats like basically all the top 3 korean votes combined
P4wcioq
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 15:48 GMT
#274

MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 31 2019 15:48 GMT
#275
On August 01 2019 00:46 GMgen0cide wrote:
did someone hack the vote? lol Elazer got over 9k votes, thats like basically all the top 3 korean votes combined


we gotta another kelhazur situation going on, some polish youtuber told his fans to vote for elazer
Invisx
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 31 2019 15:48 GMT
#276
Elazer lol What a joke.
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
July 31 2019 15:49 GMT
#277
Elazer's explanation posted on Reddit:
Just to clarify the whole situation and my point of view on it. Pretty famous polish Youtuber with 1.7mil subscribers made a video to vote for me in GSL vs the World. He is my friend and also is on the same team as me AGO.

If you know me better than just from watching a few post-game interviews during WCS, you would know I am the last person to ask for help in this type of competition. I also believe that Reynor deserves the spot more than I do. Because of how the rules work for this vote, I assumed that 2 people from zerg vote will advance - which I wanted to be me and Reynor, as Reynor is rank 2 in WCS, I am rank 8 and Scarlett is rank 9.

Last 2 years I didn't get into GSL vs The World because I lost to Scarlett in popularity vote, even though I was higher in WCS standings both times. Not sure if you guys remember, but I didn't get into GSL vs World even after winning WCS Valencia and being rank 2wcs (literally the same position as Reynor is right now).

Long story short - Even though we are good friends, I believe I deserve to play in GSL vs the World at least once instead of Scarlett, not only because of this year, but considering all my results from past 3 years. I will feel terrible if Reynor doesn't get in, and probably consider giving up my spot, but I do think that the blame shouldn't be 100% on me here.
emperorofwild
Profile Joined July 2019
87 Posts
July 31 2019 15:52 GMT
#278
On August 01 2019 00:40 Geo.Rion wrote:
I dont get it
If Elazer has such a dedicated (polish) fanbase, then why did they wait till the last day, why not vote earlier?
NVM, read a few pages back, i guess the youtube guy did it

maybe its a strategy that makes opps have no time to counter.
Amazing!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 31 2019 15:56 GMT
#279
On August 01 2019 00:49 stardog wrote:
Elazer's explanation posted on Reddit:
Show nested quote +
Just to clarify the whole situation and my point of view on it. Pretty famous polish Youtuber with 1.7mil subscribers made a video to vote for me in GSL vs the World. He is my friend and also is on the same team as me AGO.

If you know me better than just from watching a few post-game interviews during WCS, you would know I am the last person to ask for help in this type of competition. I also believe that Reynor deserves the spot more than I do. Because of how the rules work for this vote, I assumed that 2 people from zerg vote will advance - which I wanted to be me and Reynor, as Reynor is rank 2 in WCS, I am rank 8 and Scarlett is rank 9.

Last 2 years I didn't get into GSL vs The World because I lost to Scarlett in popularity vote, even though I was higher in WCS standings both times. Not sure if you guys remember, but I didn't get into GSL vs World even after winning WCS Valencia and being rank 2wcs (literally the same position as Reynor is right now).

Long story short - Even though we are good friends, I believe I deserve to play in GSL vs the World at least once instead of Scarlett, not only because of this year, but considering all my results from past 3 years. I will feel terrible if Reynor doesn't get in, and probably consider giving up my spot, but I do think that the blame shouldn't be 100% on me here.

that makes a lot of sense, actually.
At first sight it really looked like bot-voting, and Elazer is such a sttraightfoward decent guy, I couldnt understand what's going on.
I agree, he deserves the 8th, but it would be really awkward if Reynor somehow gets outvoted
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19223 Posts
July 31 2019 15:56 GMT
#280
On August 01 2019 00:49 stardog wrote:
Elazer's explanation posted on Reddit:
Show nested quote +
Just to clarify the whole situation and my point of view on it. Pretty famous polish Youtuber with 1.7mil subscribers made a video to vote for me in GSL vs the World. He is my friend and also is on the same team as me AGO.

If you know me better than just from watching a few post-game interviews during WCS, you would know I am the last person to ask for help in this type of competition. I also believe that Reynor deserves the spot more than I do. Because of how the rules work for this vote, I assumed that 2 people from zerg vote will advance - which I wanted to be me and Reynor, as Reynor is rank 2 in WCS, I am rank 8 and Scarlett is rank 9.

Last 2 years I didn't get into GSL vs The World because I lost to Scarlett in popularity vote, even though I was higher in WCS standings both times. Not sure if you guys remember, but I didn't get into GSL vs World even after winning WCS Valencia and being rank 2wcs (literally the same position as Reynor is right now).

Long story short - Even though we are good friends, I believe I deserve to play in GSL vs the World at least once instead of Scarlett, not only because of this year, but considering all my results from past 3 years. I will feel terrible if Reynor doesn't get in, and probably consider giving up my spot, but I do think that the blame shouldn't be 100% on me here.

I hope there's a better way to petition for votes in the future so players don't get caught up in this. The TLCMAT format works differently in that the rules state no petitioning for votes outside of Teamliquid. Maybe next year we can have the TL staff perform video or written interviews/profiles with all the players with the additional option that the players submit their own content to TL if they'd like. That way we make it easier for players to promote themselves. I totally understand the argument he states against Scarlett and maybe some of the fault is that we didn't give him enough of an opportunity to promote himself before the polls opened.

https://tl.net/forum/tl-community/525009-tlcmat-season-4
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
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