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Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
June 13 2007 07:39 GMT
#81
hmm dropships seem to move slow ?
I want to fly
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
June 13 2007 07:42 GMT
#82
On June 13 2007 16:35 IntoTheWow wrote:
GOD STOP CRYING

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2006 23:20 Saro wrote:
Go forth, my minions...



You voted for Bush didn't you?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
June 13 2007 07:54 GMT
#83
On June 13 2007 16:05 lololol wrote:
They mispelled the Surf Hunter which has a combined fire animation, when focus firing, which may mean they deal extra damage(or not)

Carriers apear to have special shields vs ground attacks, but this could be just graphical, although nothing in sc is purely graphical and it is a nice idea to have a separate or extra shields against diferent attacks.
Interceptors die off instantly, instead of a bit after the carrier.

The reaver clearly did shoot once(and killed a single reaper).


The shield thing is graphical, and an excellent display of the new physics system. The game calculates the angle of attack and creates the shield graphic around the impact point, making the shields look and behave in a much more realistic manner than the sprites of BW.
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 13 2007 07:56 GMT
#84
AMEN, but no Terran/Zerg yet? fuck... oh well

Guess we'll have to get used to continuous lasers as being a semi-trademark of Protoss or something like that, in SC2.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
June 13 2007 07:58 GMT
#85
On June 13 2007 16:42 boghat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2007 16:35 IntoTheWow wrote:
GOD STOP CRYING

On December 13 2006 23:20 Saro wrote:
Go forth, my minions...



You voted for Bush didn't you?


Yes i voted for bush, i eat BBQ, watch NFL, NBA, etc.
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-13 08:01:37
June 13 2007 08:01 GMT
#86
On June 13 2007 16:54 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2007 16:05 lololol wrote:
They mispelled the Surf Hunter which has a combined fire animation, when focus firing, which may mean they deal extra damage(or not)

Carriers apear to have special shields vs ground attacks, but this could be just graphical, although nothing in sc is purely graphical and it is a nice idea to have a separate or extra shields against diferent attacks.
Interceptors die off instantly, instead of a bit after the carrier.

The reaver clearly did shoot once(and killed a single reaper).


The shield thing is graphical, and an excellent display of the new physics system. The game calculates the angle of attack and creates the shield graphic around the impact point, making the shields look and behave in a much more realistic manner than the sprites of BW.


You can see the very same shield graphic apear for the hits from different sides, it's just covers the lower part of the ship, unlike the other shield graphics which are around the damaged point.
I'll call Nada.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
June 13 2007 08:05 GMT
#87
On June 13 2007 16:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2007 16:42 boghat wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:35 IntoTheWow wrote:
GOD STOP CRYING

On December 13 2006 23:20 Saro wrote:
Go forth, my minions...



You voted for Bush didn't you?


Yes i voted for bush, i eat BBQ, watch NFL, NBA, etc.

I was joking, but seriously, silencing legitimate criticisms like the game looks cartoony isn't helpful.
Tiamat
Profile Joined February 2003
United States498 Posts
June 13 2007 08:07 GMT
#88
2 things I noticed...

Photon Cannons no longer popup and retract after each shot ala the older zerglings vs psi storm video. Instead they stay up when they fire.

Also in the same clip, you can see a terran base in the corner and it appears there is a new building up there, perhaps a Science Facility?
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
June 13 2007 08:13 GMT
#89
On June 13 2007 17:07 Tiamat wrote:
2 things I noticed...

Photon Cannons no longer popup and retract after each shot ala the older zerglings vs psi storm video. Instead they stay up when they fire.

Also in the same clip, you can see a terran base in the corner and it appears there is a new building up there, perhaps a Science Facility?


Photon Cannon =/= Phase Cannon
I'll call Nada.
T-P-S
Profile Joined June 2007
United States204 Posts
June 13 2007 08:26 GMT
#90
Chances are Phase Cannons can only move around in pylon power, so rushing wouldn't work.

The 'theme' of Protoss units has so far been historical/ancient human titles:

Dragoon is the traditional name for a soldier trained to fight on foot but transport himself on horseback.

Knights Templar, a medieval Christian military order that was very prominent in the Crusades.

Archons - From time to time, laity of the Orthodox Church in communion with the Patriarch of Constantinople have been granted the title of Archon to honor their service to Church administration. (Also from ancient Greece)

Scout - duh

Corsairs were French privateers from the north-western French port of St-Malo, located on the northern coast of Brittany.

(mostly definitions from Wiki)
----

And yeah, first Reapers being ripped off of Assasult Marines, now Soul Hunters being ripped from Necron. Does Blizzard even have a concept team anymore?
~a hunnerd. Cash, check, whatever. I'll Mothership it.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
June 13 2007 08:29 GMT
#91
On June 13 2007 17:26 T-P-S wrote:
Chances are Phase Cannons can only move around in pylon power, so rushing wouldn't work.


And probably contiguous pylon power at that.
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T-P-S
Profile Joined June 2007
United States204 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-13 08:54:24
June 13 2007 08:32 GMT
#92
On June 13 2007 17:29 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2007 17:26 T-P-S wrote:
Chances are Phase Cannons can only move around in pylon power, so rushing wouldn't work.


And probably contiguous pylon power at that.


Well yeah.. they wouldn't be moving around in it if they left it, heh.

Also, I think the reaver only looks so small because they scene is zoomed out really far. The Stalkers are tiny!

edit: god typos.

Edit edit! However, Phase Prisms could perhaps do a kind of leapfrogging thing. It'd be slow, but you could move those cannons around the map. Probably too slow to do any good.

Edit Edit Edit: decafchicken beat me to it. See next post.
~a hunnerd. Cash, check, whatever. I'll Mothership it.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20074 Posts
June 13 2007 08:33 GMT
#93
On June 13 2007 17:26 T-P-S wrote:
Chances are Phase Cannons can only move around in pylon power, so rushing wouldn't work.


But when you move your pylons... :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
June 13 2007 08:49 GMT
#94
On June 13 2007 17:05 boghat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2007 16:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:42 boghat wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:35 IntoTheWow wrote:
GOD STOP CRYING

On December 13 2006 23:20 Saro wrote:
Go forth, my minions...



You voted for Bush didn't you?


Yes i voted for bush, i eat BBQ, watch NFL, NBA, etc.

I was joking, but seriously, silencing legitimate criticisms like the game looks cartoony isn't helpful.


The game doesnt look cartonish :/
Moderator<:3-/-<
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
June 13 2007 08:55 GMT
#95
On June 13 2007 17:49 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2007 17:05 boghat wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:42 boghat wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:35 IntoTheWow wrote:
GOD STOP CRYING

On December 13 2006 23:20 Saro wrote:
Go forth, my minions...



You voted for Bush didn't you?


Yes i voted for bush, i eat BBQ, watch NFL, NBA, etc.

I was joking, but seriously, silencing legitimate criticisms like the game looks cartoony isn't helpful.


The game doesnt look cartonish :/

It might be mostly or partially because I am reluctant to accept a change in appearance from SC1 so I am willing to give it a chance. But the fact that many people have the same opinion as me in regards to the cartoonish appearance makes me a bit worried.
dronefromhell
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada199 Posts
June 13 2007 08:57 GMT
#96
On June 13 2007 17:49 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2007 17:05 boghat wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:42 boghat wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:35 IntoTheWow wrote:
GOD STOP CRYING

On December 13 2006 23:20 Saro wrote:
Go forth, my minions...



You voted for Bush didn't you?


Yes i voted for bush, i eat BBQ, watch NFL, NBA, etc.

I was joking, but seriously, silencing legitimate criticisms like the game looks cartoony isn't helpful.


The game doesnt look cartonish :/


it looks exactly like command and conquer/red alert 2. im very disapointed at the animation, wtf is with all the lasers and shit? archon doesnt even look tough, shoots some electricity? and in the begining the units attacking the command center looks horrible with the laser, im mean seriously , this is turning command and conquer expansion: sc2. u know 1 of the creator who worked for c&c or red alert 2 was part of the sc2 creating team, no wonder sc2 and c&c2 share so much in common, if this continue its gonna be a failure
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
June 13 2007 09:02 GMT
#97
All you people were expecting a 2D expo again. How many times must this be said? ITS A NEW GAME, AND ITS 3D. You cant have the "looks" of 2D in 3D. And im happy blizzard is not keeping the game very very similar, the way im happy when bands innovate in music, or change styles. If the gameplays is good and its fun to play, the rest follows.

Look, 99% of the games coming out today are copycats of other shitty games. They are 90% graphics, 5% story, 5% gameplay. So for once, i would like to see games that are actually tested for competitive gaming (how many games get that chance?), have good gameplay and are being though, planned and being amde for so long.

Do you think anyone would whine on W3 aspects if the game had a better gameplay? (im not saying W3 is a bad game).

Blizzard might surprise us. I believe.
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SuN-TzU
Profile Joined January 2007
United States213 Posts
June 13 2007 09:04 GMT
#98
On June 13 2007 17:55 boghat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2007 17:49 IntoTheWow wrote:
On June 13 2007 17:05 boghat wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:42 boghat wrote:
On June 13 2007 16:35 IntoTheWow wrote:
GOD STOP CRYING

On December 13 2006 23:20 Saro wrote:
Go forth, my minions...



You voted for Bush didn't you?


Yes i voted for bush, i eat BBQ, watch NFL, NBA, etc.

I was joking, but seriously, silencing legitimate criticisms like the game looks cartoony isn't helpful.


The game doesnt look cartonish :/

It might be mostly or partially because I am reluctant to accept a change in appearance from SC1 so I am willing to give it a chance. But the fact that many people have the same opinion as me in regards to the cartoonish appearance makes me a bit worried.


because SC1 was so photorealistic and units such as the battlecruiser were designed to abide by all laws physical and aesthetic, despite the fact that it could turn 180 in the same way a civic would if it were rammed from the hood end by an 18-wheeler going 60+ mph.

please, you and the "many people" you refer to either need to find some legitimate criticisms of this game or actually... i dont know WAIT TO PLAY IT before u open your mouths again.
Ultimate Excellence Lies Not In Winning Every Battle But In Defeating The Enemy Without Ever Fighting. - Sun-tzu
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-13 09:08:51
June 13 2007 09:05 GMT
#99
I actually have confidence the gameplay of SC2 will be great. But just because it is a 3D engine does not mean it has to look this way. I am not complaining about the three dimensionality, I am complaining about the cartoony look. You seriously have no idea what I am referring to?
On June 13 2007 18:04 SuN-TzU wrote:
please, you and the "many people" you refer to either need to find some legitimate criticisms of this game or actually... i dont know WAIT TO PLAY IT before u open your mouths again.

Like I just said, I have a lot of confidence that this game will be extremely fun and playable, but the graphics and look of it I do have concerns with. Like it or not appearance is a big factor for a game, especially a game that has the potential to be a huge spectator e-sport.
NaDazpwnz3r
Profile Joined April 2007
United States111 Posts
June 13 2007 09:14 GMT
#100
dammit, dropships seem slow-ass and seems like u cant stack workers against rushes?
Saber is el pwnz0r in FSN
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