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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 11:52:50
June 29 2019 06:59 GMT
#1
After rebranding from Wolf's Lair, where money was already an issue, payments were late, and contracts were... questionable pieces of paper.

The new team Wolf's Pack continues their shady operations. As of today their team leader Nightwarrior, team manager (Z)Fazz, and players: (P)ShaDoWn, (Z)HateMe, and (T)InZaNe have been kicked from a team mid tournament.

For those who don't know, Wolf's Pack operates from a single person sponsorship (yes same as long forgotten Invasion Esports), but this sponsor doesn't randomly disappeared. Instead, lawyer has been hired to help him opt out of contracts, without somehow telling players what is going on.

However (Z)Fazz decided to speak about it, and is currently being currently being threatened to be sued by them. However I don't have any contract with them so I'm just helping spreading the news about this new Invasion Esports 2.0

(Z)Fazz's tweet: (please read the entire tweet chain)


Currently there is no statement from a team, but I would be surprised if there will be any.

UPDATE1:

So actually Fazz made public screenshots of his conversation between Wolf's Pack owner and his wife.. there are several threats on his life and the who conversation is a bit egoistic. However I've been told that WP management trying to cover this up by trying to resign few players back!



UPDATE2:

Wolf's Pack statement has been posted on their twitter... this basically confirm release of (Z)HateMe and (T)InZaNe mid HSC. They also stated that main sponsor/owner and his wife aren dissociate from the team. Which doesn't make any sense since it the team would be out of money atm.



UPDATE3:

I have been contacted by Wolf's Pack management. Apparently they are currently working to fix the issue, however pretty much confirms everything above actually happened. I'm not going to state any conclusion and I will continue to dig out more information and watch how the team operates from now on.

UPDATE4:

Wolf's Pack website was shutdown with no following statement from the team
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 29 2019 07:02 GMT
#2
https://twitter.com/NitixSC2/status/1144736293072642048?s=19
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
June 29 2019 07:08 GMT
#3
On June 29 2019 16:02 Ej_ wrote:
https://twitter.com/NitixSC2/status/1144736293072642048?s=19


"Left" haha yea... thanks for that
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 29 2019 07:39 GMT
#4
Shitty situation with some solid players getting screwed .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
June 29 2019 07:56 GMT
#5
Is it just the sc2 team getting kicked out or are there some other divisions that are getting the same treatment?
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
June 29 2019 08:29 GMT
#6
On June 29 2019 16:56 SamirDuran wrote:
Is it just the sc2 team getting kicked out or are there some other divisions that are getting the same treatment?


Afaik Wolf's Pack had only StarCraft 2.. so Idk what is going on...
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 10:15:41
June 29 2019 10:14 GMT
#7
"Wolf's Pack operates from a single person sponsorship (yes same as long forgotten Invasion Esports)"

"same" as in also a single person sponsorship, or same person?
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/518278-harstem-major-lambo-leave-invasion-esport
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FazzSC2
Profile Joined May 2015
9 Posts
June 29 2019 10:20 GMT
#8
On June 29 2019 19:14 ArtyK wrote:

"same" as in also a single person sponsorship, or same person?
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/518278-harstem-major-lambo-leave-invasion-esport


It's same in also a single persons sponsorship, it's a different person. I have met the owner of Wolfs Pack, 2 days ago at HomeStory Cup. He seemed to have a great time with the InZaNe, HateMe, Nightwarrior among others in the scene. He paid for the drinks and food at HSC for us all. So this makes things only more confusing...
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
June 29 2019 13:16 GMT
#9
That's odd. And very sad for everyone involved.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
June 29 2019 20:20 GMT
#10
Updated main post with new informations!
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GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
June 29 2019 20:54 GMT
#11
I understand alot of the people who sign with these kind of things are young but people really need to think before they act
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FazzSC2
Profile Joined May 2015
9 Posts
June 29 2019 21:01 GMT
#12
On June 30 2019 05:54 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote:
I understand alot of the people who sign with these kind of things are young but people really need to think before they act


I agree fully with you. However, there is no big union for players, that is easy to get into. These young (18years old) are practically signing their first contract and are hyped because they got offered one. This is what I was trying to achieve in the team personally, to change their contracts and internal communication. To get the team to be more professional and mature, but that might actually "killed me" in regard on the team. Me trying to be a change in the team, let alone in the scene.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
June 29 2019 21:31 GMT
#13
Update 2 is up. WP finally released their statement
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hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 22:13:35
June 29 2019 22:08 GMT
#14
inzane is still part of the team for now, they are still sorting stuff out
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
June 29 2019 22:10 GMT
#15
On June 30 2019 07:08 hjpalpha wrote:
inzane is still part of the team for now


According to official statement of the team and him he is not...
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hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 22:32:15
June 29 2019 22:17 GMT
#16
On June 30 2019 07:10 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2019 07:08 hjpalpha wrote:
inzane is still part of the team for now


According to official statement of the team and him he is not...


the official statement said nothing about him not being

also we have someone of the team on liqui discord (sc2 channel) who said its still open with inzane (and i know that is true from another source as well) the decision isnt made yet with inzane, at least not yet (although a direction is foreseeable and the decision should be made tomorrow)
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5509 Posts
June 29 2019 22:50 GMT
#17
If inzane is smart he will jump ship asap.
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
June 29 2019 23:23 GMT
#18
Update 3 is up.. I got in touch with WP management!
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GreasedUpDeafGuy
Profile Joined August 2018
United States398 Posts
June 30 2019 05:03 GMT
#19
On June 30 2019 06:01 FazzSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2019 05:54 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote:
I understand alot of the people who sign with these kind of things are young but people really need to think before they act


I agree fully with you. However, there is no big union for players, that is easy to get into. These young (18years old) are practically signing their first contract and are hyped because they got offered one. This is what I was trying to achieve in the team personally, to change their contracts and internal communication. To get the team to be more professional and mature, but that might actually "killed me" in regard on the team. Me trying to be a change in the team, let alone in the scene.


Unions would just make it worse; people really need to read what they sign
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 30 2019 06:44 GMT
#20
This sounds like some real Vanilla SC circa 1999-2003 shit.

Haven't been paying any attention at all to the scene, but this stuff certainly happened with 'single person sponsors.'

Hey kid want to be paid $300 bucks a month to play for us? Sure, better than nothing.
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