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Xiven
Profile Joined June 2007
United States16 Posts
June 09 2007 13:08 GMT
#41
Self correction: Blizzard does use orchestras for some of their music. Somebody should ask them directly how much of their music is orchestral. I believe the in game WoW music is not, but the FMV music may be. Same goes for War3.
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
June 09 2007 13:32 GMT
#42
what are you xiven some old grampa? who needs orchestras now that there is technology
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
June 09 2007 13:40 GMT
#43
On June 09 2007 22:32 RebelHeart wrote:
what are you xiven some old grampa? who needs orchestras now that there is technology


lol

no top-quality sample, no matter who/where/how it is recorded will ever be able to match the quality of a good orchestra performing live.

sorry
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-09 14:05:42
June 09 2007 14:02 GMT
#44
On June 09 2007 18:49 Xiven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2007 20:49 red.venom wrote:
Bliz has a lot of new music talent and I would say in the 10 years since SC was in production they have definitely stepped up the production value on their game scores. I mean you could argue they have some of the best shit right now as far as orchestral/background game music goes.


Blizzard doesn't even use real orchestras for their music, it's just samples being played back at different keys.

Many companies record real music for their games, at great expense mind you (especially if they use the Los Angeles or London orchestras) but Blizzard is not one of them.

If you're can't hear the difference, you're not really qualified to comment on this.


Samples being played back at different keys? Haha: [ you are a moron.. and I happen to write a bit of orchestral mockups in my spare time and am a huge fan of film score and game music.

SC1 has a very cheap keyboardy(I mean the Terran theme has a very prominent DX7-sounding patch for gods sake) aesthetic. But it was also made in probably 1997 when composers had access to very few PC based tools, let alone the massive, complex and extremely versatile libraries they have now(Like Vienna, East West Symphony Orchestra, etc). So the only option was to do things with cheap gear and get an unconventional sound or go all out and hire an orchestra and get a composer who has experience writing for it, which would be hard in the game music world... If you dont know, many feature films these days use mockups as their score that goes to the print of the film as orchestras are very costly, but so long as the composer used the library to his advantage there is just no way for an average person to tell unless they know something about it.

The guy who did the latest wow music and maybe the old stuff too happens to be a HUGE name in ambient music(particularly in comissioned installations) and his shit is CRAZY good and head of the class as far as music production in games go. Sure its not recorded by a real orchestra in most cases but i dont think anyone really gives a shit except snobby dykes like you who drum up ideas in their head without the experience to really back that shit up.

The main point of my original post though was that none of the real orchestral shit even matters because SC1 had a fantastically fun score, everyone recognizes it and I would just like to see them do something more in that vein instead of getting a big film sound(The cinematic trailer for instance reminds me very much of David Julyans work in the Prestige and although I love that shit, i dont really want it in my Starcraft).

In short, eat a dick yo.
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 09 2007 15:11 GMT
#45
eh i cant imagine any orchestra music (and yes I love orchestral and classical music, one of my favorite kinds of music) beating SC's music, it simply would not fit with the game. I really hope they do not go in that direction for SC2
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ChaosKnight
Profile Joined April 2007
United States819 Posts
June 09 2007 16:23 GMT
#46
On June 08 2007 20:42 Mynock wrote:
What?

The music for WarCraft, WarCraft II and the Terran music for SC is absolutely outstanding. Especially War II is one of the best game musics like... ever.

So, more respect please.

-Mynock


The main Human theme from WarCraft II will forever be in my head.
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-09 16:42:01
June 09 2007 16:35 GMT
#47
Another vote for "no Jeremy Soule for SC2".

He is good but not for StarCraft... not for our StarCraft.

unless you wanna always do a certain Sonic strat...
"Eyes in the sky."
shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
June 09 2007 18:20 GMT
#48
On June 08 2007 20:42 Mynock wrote:
The music for WarCraft, WarCraft II and the Terran music for SC is absolutely outstanding. Especially War II is one of the best game musics like... ever.
Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
Xiven
Profile Joined June 2007
United States16 Posts
June 10 2007 03:50 GMT
#49
On June 09 2007 23:02 red.venom wrote:
The main point of my original post though was that none of the real orchestral shit even matters because SC1 had a fantastically fun score, everyone recognizes it and I would just like to see them do something more in that vein instead of getting a big film sound(The cinematic trailer for instance reminds me very much of David Julyans work in the Prestige and although I love that shit, i dont really want it in my Starcraft).


I agree that Starcraft is better off with the music it has than a live orchestra, as the music is more electronic than orchestral. Warcraft's music, and some of Diablo's, is much more suited for orchestra, but Blizzard chooses not to record with a real orchestra because most people can't tell the difference, even though plenty of game titles out there use full orchestra for their music.

Here's an interview with Jason Hayes, who scored WoW:
Link to the interview

The majority of the game [audio] is done via electronics, and there are certain things that just don't sound very good emulating an orchestra with electronics. I've always had a real struggle with brass, especially trumpets. Making them sound as wonderful and strident as live players has always been difficult--it never quite comes across. But when you're in a setting with a live orchestra, you get these wonderful trumpets that bring passages to life that I just can't do very easily when emulating an orchestra. When I go to any of these shows there's always a bit of a surprise factor as to how this performance is going to sound.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 10 2007 12:01 GMT
#50
On June 09 2007 02:16 Bob123 wrote:
The Terran music = the best ever x_o;
The Zerg music = perfectly fits with the zerg style. A bit creepy. Second best ever!
The Protoss music = .....rather boring...


Agree 100%

Protoss music is kinda lame : (
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-11 04:51:49
June 11 2007 04:32 GMT
#51
I trust in Blizzard to give us great music, but I would be lying if I said I didn't want Hans Zimmer to contribute something.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
June 11 2007 05:45 GMT
#52
led zeppelin please
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
June 11 2007 06:56 GMT
#53
On June 09 2007 16:25 Duffybeer wrote:
darktreb from SK-gaming forums? If so, please GTFO of here, we don't need your kind in here.


Some retard named Duffybeer? If so, please GTFO of here, we don't need your kind in here.
zoast
Profile Joined February 2007
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-11 07:36:47
June 11 2007 07:24 GMT
#54
I think everybody* would agree that blizzard needs to lock glenn stafford in a room until he gives us a proper sequel to the terran music!!

But I liked all of sc1's music for the most part... using 3 different composers for each individual race gave them all a unique feel.

anyway
please god dont let them do some total fluff orchestral/ambient 200X hollywood movie score horseshit... I have a feeling I will be listening to transformer movie soundtrack while I play SC2 : /

(*except the OP, how the hell do you not like glenn stafford? the man wrote the warcraft 2 soundtrack and terran music. then again didnt he do WC3? I remember nothing from that soundtrack, so maybe you are right, but I like to think that is blizzards fault.)
I dont like stuff that sucks
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
June 11 2007 07:46 GMT
#55
On June 11 2007 14:45 CoralReefer wrote:
led zeppelin please


They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-11 08:22:45
June 11 2007 08:22 GMT
#56
Warcraft II music is absolutely classic. (The intro, especially, up there with one winged angel)
The terran music is pretty good, Z is ok, again toss is boring but it suits them.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-11 09:00:21
June 11 2007 08:57 GMT
#57
are you serious, op? one of the trademarks of a blizzard game is having a stellar soundtrack. d2, w2, sc were all great in that respect.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
Kassios
Profile Joined May 2006
France1424 Posts
June 11 2007 21:45 GMT
#58
I agree that War2 music was very good, the Terran music is fine too, but the rest is.. bwa
- Death is certain, life is not -
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
June 11 2007 22:45 GMT
#59
On June 08 2007 20:42 Mynock wrote:
What?

The music for WarCraft, WarCraft II and the Terran music for SC is absolutely outstanding. Especially War II is one of the best game musics like... ever.

So, more respect please.

-Mynock


Yeah, I loved all the music from Blizzard titles
^-^
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 11 2007 22:57 GMT
#60
On June 09 2007 22:32 RebelHeart wrote:
what are you xiven some old grampa? who needs orchestras now that there is technology


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